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| druberlin | thanks kimmoli , will take a look | 02:26 |
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| ShadowJK | Hm, it spent 7 minutes burning RAM, then freed almost all of it and site is scrollable and viewable. win | 03:02 |
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| urs | Has anyone got any pointers for me how to get the jolla to do calDAV sync with Horde? | 10:01 |
| urs | There are a number of people asking these things in stupid webforums, but as usual for webforums, the answer is typically "Nevermind, I got it to work" without providing any hint *how* they did it. | 10:02 |
| tbr | that's 1337 ph0rumz for ya | 10:02 |
| urs | Also, dear jolla people, "Could not create account" is a completely useless error message. | 10:03 |
| urs | Ah, adding a "https://" in front of the server address was obviously all that was missing for me. | 10:04 |
| tbr | now either blog about it or put it on tjc, so the next person can find it. (although irc logs are probably indexed too) | 10:05 |
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| urs | Ok, dear everybody: If you want jolla to sync via calDAV with horde, log into horde, go to your calender, click the "Edit" icon and go to the "subsecription" tab. That'll provide with a CalDAV account URL. | 10:07 |
| urs | Split that into host and path, and feed it into your device, not forgetting https. then you're good. :) | 10:08 |
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| SQUelcher | urs: you could just use the exchange plugin and forget about caldav :P | 10:11 |
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| urs | "oh". | 10:12 |
| urs | But where do I add exchange accounts to the phone? | 10:13 |
| tbr | you install the plugin from store first | 10:14 |
| urs | ah, ok. | 10:15 |
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| T-Dahg | Hi! I'm having an issue regarding the vibrator mode of my Jolla. | 11:17 |
| T-Dahg | It doesn't vibrate most of the time | 11:18 |
| T-Dahg | When I run the vibration test, I need to give it a good shake and then it works. | 11:19 |
| Sail0r | Did you run the vibrator tests? | 11:19 |
| Sail0r | Had the same problem and did send it to care | 11:19 |
| Sail0r | that's what you have to do. Contact care and get a new motor | 11:20 |
| T-Dahg | Oh k :/ have you got a clue how long i'm gonna have to miss my Jolla if I send it in? | 11:20 |
| Sail0r | Mine was back after 4 days | 11:20 |
| Sail0r | I am from Germany | 11:20 |
| T-Dahg | That's not too bad :p | 11:21 |
| Sail0r | nope that's very good | 11:21 |
| T-Dahg | I'll do that then, thx a lot! | 11:21 |
| Sail0r | no problem :) | 11:21 |
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| Yaniel | hmm unable to get label Inappropriate ioctl for device | 11:46 |
| Yaniel | says btrfs fi show on my µSD | 11:46 |
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| Yaniel | ah right it shows it anyway it seems | 11:47 |
| Yaniel | just doesn't have a label set | 11:48 |
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| attah | the facepalm generated by support for gTLDs when you try to google a 3gpp spec in the address bar... | 18:00 |
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| Stskeeps | attah: there's a 3gpp gtld? | 18:25 |
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| attah | Stskeeps: no.. but it interprets 36.331 as a url as opposed to pre-gTLD browsers | 18:26 |
| Stskeeps | ah.. | 18:26 |
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| attah | Stskeeps: how are things in the skunkworks department? | 18:27 |
| Stskeeps | slow; mostly focused on tablet atm | 18:28 |
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| attah | that's not very fun.. but i guess it's pretty satisfying to see it coming to life | 18:29 |
| Stskeeps | well, i have .. skills, in the hw adaptation department and when you spend a lot of time thinking, you need to keep your knives sharp or you're just another useless architect | 18:30 |
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| attah | ah.. and those projects are down-prioritized because of the importance of the tablet? | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | probably a bit of self-prioritisation | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | we all roll our sleeves up when things need doing | 18:32 |
| attah | yeah.. i recognize that.. | 18:33 |
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| Stskeeps | but i'm like the most lousy engineer around for product programs | 18:33 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:33 |
| attah | and sometimes you need someone stepping in and ordering you to take a break or attend a course etc.. | 18:33 |
| attah | how do you mean? no testing? ^^ | 18:33 |
| Stskeeps | nah, just slow and unorganised at times; i however do interesting things and know stuff | 18:36 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:36 |
| r0kk3rz | in most companies the things that get you paid are usually prioritised over pie-in-the-sky ideas | 18:36 |
| r0kk3rz | even in companies doing crazy things like google | 18:37 |
| Stskeeps | there's a whole field of theory around that | 18:37 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:37 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.amazon.com/The-Innovators-Dilemma-Revolutionary-Business/dp/0062060244 | 18:37 |
| Stskeeps | etc | 18:37 |
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| Stskeeps | moo shmerl | 18:38 |
| r0kk3rz | agreed there is a balance to be struck, and most companies get that balance wrong | 18:38 |
| shmerl | Stskeeps: Hi! | 18:38 |
| Stskeeps | google doesn't do their 10% anymore, do they? | 18:38 |
| r0kk3rz | 10% time, probably not | 18:38 |
| attah | wasn't it 20%? | 18:38 |
| leinir | 20%, and no | 18:38 |
| zutto | sadly they dont :( | 18:38 |
| attah | ^that | 18:38 |
| r0kk3rz | as they never really got that much out of it | 18:38 |
| r0kk3rz | aside from google maps | 18:39 |
| leinir | and mail | 18:39 |
| shmerl | Stskeeps: I saw something that you wrote that you need volunteers help with testing Mesa/KMS adaptations. What exactly do you need help with there? | 18:39 |
| leinir | and every other bloody product they've produced that wasn't android because they just bought that | 18:39 |
| attah | and they somehow managed to magically quantify all the learning that took place during this time? | 18:39 |
| Stskeeps | shmerl: well, not testing, creating | 18:39 |
| r0kk3rz | did gmail come out of 20% time as well? didnt know that | 18:39 |
| Stskeeps | shmerl: packaging, in practice | 18:39 |
| Stskeeps | i don't want to do the grunt work lifting; i can help test | 18:39 |
| shmerl | Ah, I see. Is it doable without actual hardware? If there is some guide how to do it, I can experiment with it. | 18:40 |
| zutto | they did alot of intresting stuff with the 20% | 18:40 |
| zutto | like google wave | 18:40 |
| Stskeeps | shmerl: sure | 18:40 |
| zutto | too bad it never caught the attention of people :( | 18:40 |
| Stskeeps | shmerl: it's a i945 practically, able to use mesa i915 | 18:40 |
| Stskeeps | at least that's what i think it said | 18:41 |
| shmerl | Is it all in the upstream kernels, or it's split in per hardware configuration? | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | should be upstream | 18:41 |
| shmerl | Do you know what other components for sure have no regular drivers? | 18:42 |
| shmerl | I.e. camera, wifi etc. | 18:42 |
| shmerl | Or it needs research? | 18:42 |
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| Stskeeps | wifi is fine | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | camera may possibly work with v4l2 but no clue | 18:43 |
| shmerl | That's good | 18:43 |
| shmerl | Is this a good starting point? | 18:43 |
| shmerl | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | well, basically somebody needs to build mesa/libdrm/etc that's fairly up to date | 18:44 |
| shmerl | Or rather this one? | 18:44 |
| shmerl | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide/Step_by_step | 18:44 |
| shmerl | Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out if there is any documentation on the process that's usable | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | nah; more of 'build this in obs' | 18:45 |
| shmerl | I.e. just configure the kernel and package that in OBS? | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | nah, kernel is not that interesting; kernel will work fine with whatever; mesa/libdrm/libva/etc wont | 18:46 |
| shmerl | Never really worked with them. They are built as separate projects? | 18:47 |
| shmerl | Then may be just list more or less precisely what needs to be packaged for the adaptation. | 18:47 |
| shmerl | I can start a temporary wiki to collect the info | 18:47 |
| shmerl | Is this usable? | 18:49 |
| shmerl | https://github.com/saukko/mer-graphics-adaptation/blob/master/mer-graphics-adaptation.yaml | 18:49 |
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| Stskeeps | higher level, packaging | 18:50 |
| Stskeeps | i need to go now though, west wing time | 18:50 |
| shmerl | Sure, will catch you later. | 18:50 |
| shmerl | I'll start some page for now. | 18:50 |
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| shmerl | I'll link it from here: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations#x86 | 18:51 |
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| shmerl | shmerl: /*y2*Limk!;kV-*kNClIR/F9z0E9]A | 18:53 |
| shmerl | The actual page: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation/JollaTablet | 19:00 |
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| Nc_ | There - 1 tightly packed Jolla-phone, all ready for the FedEx dude to pick up | 21:12 |
| Sail0r | hehe | 21:12 |
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