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| japa-fi | how many download attemtps does it take for you to update the phone? I think I've started the download now almost 10 times.. | 04:58 |
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| Ezko | i had to restart mine | 05:00 |
| Ezko | tried about 10 times before it did anything | 05:00 |
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| japa-fi | perhaps I'll have a try with restart too | 05:03 |
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| deztructor | flux: since some release (1.1.2 or 1.1.4 - need to see) jolla-vault starts garbage collection in the background. jolla-vault rpm changelog should tell is it avaiable. | 05:25 |
| deztructor | so, the size should decrease (on some event like minimized or closed settings, existing backup page) if user is deleted any backup containing files not contained in other backups (backups are incremental, so if you had backed up pictures and did not backed up them on the next turn, they are also considered as the part of the former | 05:29 |
| flux | deztructor, ok, it may be possible I didn't trigger this operation then | 05:33 |
| flux | also that incremental functionality would explain it as well | 05:34 |
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| keesj | deztructor: :P i started yesterday with an old 1.0.something version and have been upgdaring in small steps ever since | 06:03 |
| keesj | I am at 1.1.2.16 right now | 06:04 |
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| narchie | so when can I get an update | 07:53 |
| narchie | why does making a network request take 1 minute? | 07:53 |
| narchie | what's difficult in rolling out a release for all users | 07:54 |
| narchie | do I really need to fork this again | 07:55 |
| narchie | thanks btrfs best choice 2015 | 07:55 |
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| Yaniel | btrfs best fs | 08:00 |
| Yaniel | and metadata | 08:00 |
| temmi_foo | yea, zfs is horrible as it already worked before btrfs was even a thought | 08:01 |
| TemeV | btrfs is awesome, wish there was newer version on Jolla though | 08:02 |
| TemeV | does zfs work properly with linux? I hear there is some problems with it | 08:03 |
| TemeV | *used to be problems | 08:03 |
| temmi_foo | starting a new fs from scratch instead of fixing existing fs linux implementation was clearly a better choice | 08:04 |
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| thp | coderus: https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugin-dbus/pull/31 <- do we want to clean this up and merge? maybe as spiiroin suggested use 'v' instead of 'z' | 09:10 |
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| kimmoli | can i start synaptics touch evdev device manually? | 09:55 |
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| flux | temmi_foo, so what file system should have been used as a base? | 10:11 |
| flux | in any case, f2fs is a completely new file system and seems to be coming up fine | 10:11 |
| flux | perhaps it's even being considered for the tablet? | 10:11 |
| temmi_foo | flux: in my view, fixing zfs linux implementation would have been better | 10:11 |
| flux | temmi_foo, the major point is fixing the ZFS license, and that's never going to happen.. | 10:12 |
| flux | it is never going to be a first-class Linux filesystem | 10:12 |
| SK_Sailfish | what about simple and reliable ext4 | 10:13 |
| SK_Sailfish | ? | 10:13 |
| temmi_foo | SK_Sailfish: that would have been too uncool | 10:13 |
| temmi_foo | flux: the ages old we need to ENFORCE freedom so as to be free | 10:13 |
| flux | yep, ext4 is decent. though it might've wasted some space to make the factory reset work as it works now. or some overlay filesystem on top of that? | 10:13 |
| temmi_foo | just free is not enough | 10:14 |
| SK_Sailfish | temmi_foo: true | 10:14 |
| SK_Sailfish | flux: yep can be an issue | 10:14 |
| flux | or maybe there could be no factory reset image and a pc-assisteed recovery would just always work.. | 10:14 |
| SK_Sailfish | flux: iirc recovery is mandatoey | 10:15 |
| temmi_foo | freedom is mandatory | 10:16 |
| temmi_foo | happiness is mandatory | 10:16 |
| SK_Sailfish | temmi_foo: nope | 10:16 |
| SK_Sailfish | freedom and hapiness is not enforced by law | 10:16 |
| temmi_foo | with gpl, at least freedom is enforced | 10:16 |
| SK_Sailfish | at least not in france (fwiw) | 10:18 |
| SK_Sailfish | damn, not fwiw, "for what i know" | 10:18 |
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| coderus | thp: afaik spiiroin is doing better stuff: https://github.com/spiiroin/nemo-qml-plugin-dbus/tree/jb23167_normalize_args%2Cv11 | 10:25 |
| spiiroin | coderus, thp: that is work-in-progress (that I forgot to remove) of what ended up in https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugin-dbus/pull/30 | 10:28 |
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| gatherer | hi, anybody out here with knowledge of buteo-sync-plugin-carddav ? | 10:59 |
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| chem|st | gatherer: what about it? | 11:19 |
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| gatherer | chem|st, ok, i try to sync carddav | 11:22 |
| gatherer | my url to carddav server uses a port | 11:22 |
| gatherer | the request i can see from my jolla trying to sync goes to the right server, but without the port | 11:23 |
| gatherer | ist uses 80 | 11:23 |
| gatherer | im no programmer, but it ma be that the problem is in https://github.com/nemomobile/buteo-sync-plugin-carddav/blob/master/src/carddav.cpp arount line 350 | 11:23 |
| gatherer | when the url of the carddav does end in "/" the port information from the url will get lost | 11:25 |
| gatherer | because "wellKnownUrl" is made out of serverUrl.scheme()) and (serverUrl.host() but not the port | 11:25 |
| gatherer | what i see: request to http://mydom.example/ (port 80) which is just a webserver which will answer with 405 to the PROPFIND request | 11:27 |
| gatherer | what i exspect: request to http://mydom.example:5232/ (which is radicale server) | 11:28 |
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| Nicd- | gatherer: you should write an issue report there :) | 11:36 |
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| Kabouik | Hi coderus! I've freed some space in /var/cache/zypp/packages and /home/nemo/Pictures, using "while ! rm -rf packages/*; do echo retrying...; done" | 11:40 |
| coderus | Kabouik: cool :) | 11:41 |
| coderus | now what your btrfs fi show? | 11:41 |
| Kabouik | "btrfs fi show" still shows 13.75/13.75 for /dev/mmcblk0p28, but "df" says 72% | 11:42 |
| coderus | btrfs fi df / | 11:42 |
| coderus | btrfs fi df /mnt if in shell recovery | 11:42 |
| Kabouik | Just lost ssh and failure to reconnect, let me try again | 11:42 |
| Kabouik | [nemo@Jolla ~]$ btrfs fi df / | 11:45 |
| Kabouik | Data, single: total=12.68GiB, used=8.87GiB | 11:45 |
| Kabouik | System, DUP: total=32.00MiB, used=4.00KiB | 11:45 |
| Kabouik | System, single: total=4.00MiB, used=0.00 | 11:45 |
| Kabouik | Metadata, DUP: total=512.00MiB, used=266.52MiB | 11:45 |
| Kabouik | I'm not in shell recovery | 11:46 |
| coderus | cool, now start balancing and wait it for finished | 11:46 |
| Kabouik | With dusage, or just "full" balance? | 11:47 |
| coderus | full | 11:47 |
| coderus | and place phone on charger for night, and phone will make light balance itself automatically :) | 11:47 |
| japa-fi_ | I think I'm at download attempt 10+.... | 11:47 |
| coderus | japa-fi_: what is you downloading with so low age limit? :D | 11:48 |
| Nicd- | coderus: the nightly balance is only on tuesday nights | 11:49 |
| Kabouik | btrfs balance in progress for /. Will keep you updated coderus. I wonder if there is a verbose option for btrfs, I worry everytime I run such commands that work for a long time, without knowing whether they actyally work, or are stuck :p | 11:50 |
| coderus | Nicd-: so, better put phone to charger every time, than on tuesday only ;D | 11:52 |
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| xfade__ | Kabouik: you can see some kernel messages in journal while it it is relocating stuff. | 11:58 |
| flux | kabouik, I think the worst example if 'btrfs check' which in fact isn't silent, but it is silent for a while until it produces its first output :) | 11:58 |
| flux | but at least it should be a low-barrier entry-level patch for getting into btrfs development ;) | 11:58 |
| Yaniel | btrfs balance status / | 11:59 |
| flux | what kind of balance does jolla do then, btw? | 11:59 |
| flux | would it be a good idea to balance it myself beforehand? | 11:59 |
| flux | (before upgrading) | 11:59 |
| Yaniel | yes | 11:59 |
| Yaniel | at least for 1.1.4 | 11:59 |
| coderus | flux: balance before updating if you using gui and not hacking in terminal is done automatically | 12:00 |
| flux | coderus, oh, that's a feature that was already in the previous release? | 12:01 |
| Yaniel | umm updating from 1.1.2 to 1.1.4 didn't balance beforehand for me at least | 12:02 |
| xfade__ | No, not there yet | 12:02 |
| coderus | Yaniel: why you think so? | 12:02 |
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| Yaniel | because the update stopped halfway through and when it came to again the disk was "full" | 12:03 |
| coderus | then balance not helped :) | 12:03 |
| Yaniel | that' | 12:03 |
| Yaniel | s another problem then | 12:04 |
| Yaniel | there certainly was enough free space though | 12:04 |
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| Mikaela | Is someone familiar with `mc-tool list: Failed to connect to D-Bus: Using X11 for dbus-daemon autolaunch was disabled at compile time, set your DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS instead` ? I am trying to follow https://together.jolla.com/question/415/sip-voip-native-integration/ | 12:28 |
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| coderus | Mikaela: there is no any word to launch mc-tool as root | 12:30 |
| Mikaela | I was trying to do it as nemo first with same error | 12:30 |
| coderus | just mc-tool not working too | 12:31 |
| coderus | ? | 12:31 |
| Mikaela | Error: No command specified | 12:31 |
| Mikaela | apparently that works | 12:31 |
| Mikaela | but when I attempt some command like `mc-tool list` I get the dbus error | 12:32 |
| coderus | i'm sure you logged as root to terminal | 12:32 |
| coderus | or doing some other weird things | 12:33 |
| Mikaela | I am in tmux | 12:33 |
| Mikaela | but outside of tmux I have same issue | 12:33 |
| Mikaela | it seems to work on local terminal, not over SSH | 12:34 |
| Mikaela | happy typing me then, I don't like that keyboard :( | 12:35 |
| Mikaela | or not, I can type on PC and then press arrow up on Jolla | 12:35 |
| kimmoli | works for me over ssh, over fingerterm, either root or nemo | 12:35 |
| coderus | yes, your ssh is erasing environment then | 12:36 |
| coderus | or you fine-tuned sshd config youself :D | 12:36 |
| locusf | DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/100000/dbus/user_bus_socket mc-tool list | 12:36 |
| Fusl | my jolla phone is not starting any applications anymore and when i swipe up on the main screen so that the menu comes down (Settings, Turn on sounds, etc. things) it completely freezes the GUI | 12:36 |
| Fusl | however, i can access the phone via ssh, is there a way to check why this is happening? | 12:36 |
| Mikaela | I think I only fine-tuned sshd to not allow login without SSH key | 12:36 |
| kimmoli | Fusl: does the pulldown freeze before the first menuitem gets highlighted? you can see it but then nothing? | 12:37 |
| Fusl | sometimes, sometimes if i'm fast enough it gets highlighted but instantly freezes again | 12:38 |
| kimmoli | check top, is ngfd taking 100% cputime? | 12:38 |
| Fusl | nope https://scr.meo.ws/snapshot/2015-05-07-14-38-51-vXkscr79.png | 12:39 |
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| Kabouik | http://pastebin.com/cqx6GWLe coderus | 12:48 |
| Kabouik | "df /" shows /dev/mmcblk0p28 14415852 9838516 3936756 72% | 12:49 |
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| coderus | Kabouik: cool | 12:51 |
| coderus | do you have rpm files i sent to you copied to sdcard | 12:51 |
| coderus | ? | 12:51 |
| Kabouik | I'm surprised btrfs only fried 0.7 GB | 12:51 |
| Kabouik | They are not in SDCard, but on the Jolla yes | 12:52 |
| coderus | okay, so you have ssh access to jolla, now install all these packages | 12:52 |
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| Kabouik | Done | 12:54 |
| Kabouik | Restarting lipstick | 12:54 |
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| Kabouik | Still no luck coderus :/ | 12:55 |
| Kabouik | Only the wallpaper, a bip when the restart is done, and the thin notification band on top of the screen "Connected to charger", "Developer mode enabled", etc | 12:56 |
| coderus | Kabouik: okay, then now remove aliendalvik package | 12:56 |
| Kabouik | Done using pkcon remove as nemo | 12:57 |
| coderus | reboot, check df there shoudnt be anything mounted to /opt/alien | 12:57 |
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| Kabouik | No mention of /opt/alien in df | 12:58 |
| Kabouik | I guess it's good | 12:58 |
| coderus | okay, now remove /opt/alien folder | 12:58 |
| coderus | and /data/data and /data/media | 12:59 |
| Kabouik | (It'll remove all Android apps that would have been reinstalled automatically when I'll resinstall Alien, right? Should take not of what Android apps I have before, if so) | 12:59 |
| Kabouik | take note* | 13:00 |
| coderus | Kabouik: you should reinstall all android apps manually | 13:00 |
| Kabouik | Ok | 13:00 |
| Kabouik | Any way to write a list of all .apk installed? So that I can reinstall them later without forgetting one | 13:00 |
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| Kabouik | ls /data/app > Android.txt? | 13:01 |
| coderus | you can copy apk files from /data/app | 13:01 |
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| coderus | you can check btrfs fi df / now | 13:02 |
| coderus | how much free spac? | 13:02 |
| coderus | space* | 13:02 |
| Kabouik | I'm transfering the apk, will delete after and I'll tell you | 13:02 |
| coderus | if about 2GB you can stop deleting things | 13:03 |
| Kabouik | [root@Jolla nemo]# rm -rf /data/media | 13:05 |
| Kabouik | rm: cannot remove directory `/data/media': Device or resource busy | 13:05 |
| Kabouik | Have removed /opt/alien and /data/data | 13:05 |
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| Kabouik | [root@Jolla nemo]# btrfs fi df / | 13:05 |
| Kabouik | Data, single: total=11.95GiB, used=8.12GiB | 13:05 |
| coderus | Kabouik: you have sdcard mounted to android media? | 13:07 |
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| Kabouik | Hum. I know I set Android to use sdcard, following help from someone here, but it was a long time ago. Don't quite remember what had be done | 13:07 |
| coderus | okay then | 13:08 |
| coderus | now you check your ssu re is 1.1.4.29 | 13:08 |
| coderus | and do version --dup :) | 13:08 |
| Kabouik | It is | 13:08 |
| coderus | also, did you installed phonehook application? | 13:08 |
| Kabouik | Now fingers crossed. | 13:08 |
| Kabouik | Cross your fingers, you all members of #jollamobile, or I shall cast a rain of fire on your farms. | 13:09 |
| ggabriel | empty threat for non farmers | 13:10 |
| TemeV | maybe he meant server farms | 13:11 |
| ggabriel | empty threat for cloud users :P | 13:11 |
| ggabriel | (or people you still use server forests) | 13:11 |
| TemeV | oh yeah, cloud doesn't have servers..- | 13:11 |
| kimmoli | or farmville players? | 13:11 |
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| Kabouik | Y'all are farmers, and sinners. | 13:12 |
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| Kabouik | It fails for connect coderus, I guess I'll have to enable internet sharing first | 13:21 |
| Kabouik | Do you still have the link you gave me yesterday? | 13:22 |
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| coderus | ah you still have no internet | 13:32 |
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| coderus | echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward | 13:35 |
| coderus | iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -s 192.168.2.15 -j MASQUERADE | 13:35 |
| coderus | replace eth0 with your interface | 13:35 |
| coderus | on phone | 13:35 |
| coderus | route add default gw 192.168.2.14 | 13:35 |
| coderus | replace with pc ip if needed | 13:35 |
| coderus | and add nameserver 8.8.8.8 to /etc/resolv.conf | 13:36 |
| coderus | should work for version--dup | 13:36 |
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| Kabouik | I'm not sure which commands have to be used on Jolla and which have to be used on computer coderus | 13:54 |
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| flux | the first 2 ones on the PC (ie. the router) and the other ones on the phone | 13:57 |
| coderus | replace 192.168.2.15 with phone ip and 192.168.2.14 with pc ip if needed | 13:58 |
| Kabouik | The first command fails on computer, "permission denied", even with sudo | 14:00 |
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| flux | echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward | 14:00 |
| flux | the issue is that sudo echo > blabla is the same as (sudo echo) > bla bla | 14:00 |
| Kabouik | Oh ok | 14:01 |
| Kabouik | And so the output of that command ("1") is for? | 14:01 |
| flux | 'tee' does that | 14:01 |
| flux | it copies its input to output | 14:01 |
| flux | PLUS to given output files | 14:01 |
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| Kabouik | I've done as you two said, but ping still doesn't find www.google.com on Jolla ssh. For the router IP, I should use the usb0 ip, since my Jolla is connected through USB, right? | 14:05 |
| ggabriel | ping 4.2.2.2 to rule out dns issues | 14:05 |
| Kabouik | No better | 14:06 |
| Kabouik | Ok it works, I changed eth0 to wlan0 on computer. Don't know why eth0 is not found, I'm currently connected both through Ethernet and Wifi, but hey | 14:07 |
| coderus | so, ping google works? | 14:08 |
| coderus | do version --dup then | 14:08 |
| Kabouik | ping 4.2.2.2 worked, I ran version --dup | 14:09 |
| Kabouik | Well, version --dup failed again for connection issues. I checked www.google.com: unknown host. 4.2.2.2 still pings though. | 14:10 |
| ggabriel | you need a /etc/resolv.conf | 14:10 |
| ggabriel | (on the phone) | 14:10 |
| Kabouik | I added nameserver 8.8.8.8 in etc/resolv.conf on phone | 14:10 |
| Kabouik | "nameserver 127.0.0.1" and "namserver ::1" were already in the file. I added a third line for "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | 14:11 |
| ggabriel | beats me then, unless 8.8.8.8 isn't working | 14:11 |
| ggabriel | oh, no | 14:11 |
| ggabriel | deleete the localhost ones | 14:11 |
| Kabouik | Ok | 14:11 |
| coderus | just put 8 8 8 8 on the top | 14:11 |
| ggabriel | also, i wouldn't use google's dns, but that's me ;) | 14:11 |
| ggabriel | not 8 8 8 8 | 14:12 |
| ggabriel | nameserver 8.8.8.8 | 14:12 |
| Kabouik | Just tell me then :p | 14:12 |
| Kabouik | So I replace "nameserver 127.0.0.1" by "nameserver 8.8.8.8"? | 14:12 |
| ggabriel | yes | 14:13 |
| ggabriel | and delete the rest | 14:13 |
| coderus | replace everything in file with just nameserver 8.8.8.8 | 14:13 |
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| Kabouik | Ping works! | 14:13 |
| Kabouik | Let's version dup again (as nemo?) | 14:13 |
| coderus | yeah | 14:13 |
| Kabouik | In progress | 14:13 |
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| Kabouik | Store credentials not received. Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. | 14:29 |
| Kabouik | Refreshing had reached 85% when this error occurred | 14:29 |
| Kabouik | It's retrying | 14:30 |
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| Kabouik | It failed three times at Refreshing: 85% coderus, when trying to refresh adaptation0, adaptation1, aliendalvik, eas, store, xt9 | 14:41 |
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| Kabouik | 3 attempts out of 3 where done for refreshing, it just went into "upgrading" step | 14:42 |
| Kabouik | Aborted | 14:42 |
| Kabouik | Ping still works though | 14:42 |
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| Kabouik | Blizzz just repeated the version --dup here ()https://together.jolla.com/question/91900/no-gui-after-114-update/ to finally succeed, apparently. let's try the same. | 14:49 |
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| * AL13N_work is disappointed that the tablet will not arrive in time to leave on holidays... we kinda bought this because we need to do a 10h drive with our kids... :-( | 14:51 | |
| AL13N_work | we leave end of july | 14:51 |
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| AL13N_work | i figured even with some delay from end of may, it would be ok | 14:52 |
| AL13N_work | :-( | 14:52 |
| ggabriel | AL13N_work: catch a plane? | 14:54 |
| coderus | Kabouik: what is your ssu domain | 14:56 |
| Kabouik | sales coderus | 14:57 |
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| coderus | good | 15:04 |
| coderus | so, keep trying | 15:04 |
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| arvut | hello | 15:06 |
| arvut | i have a request for the jolla tablet | 15:06 |
| arvut | dvorak input from usb keyboard and dvorak layout in fingerterm | 15:06 |
| arvut | btw, does the jolla camera geotag photos? | 15:08 |
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| ggabriel | arvut: best put your request in tjc | 15:15 |
| ggabriel | and i'm assuming that phtos will be tagged as well as t hey are on the phone, provided that positioning is available | 15:16 |
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| Venemo_j | heyy | 15:23 |
| stephg | o/ Venemo_j | 15:24 |
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| AL13N_work | ggabriel: if i fly there, i still need to drive at least 4h | 15:34 |
| AL13N_work | i don't expect any response, i just knew there would likely be delays, i just didn't think it would be this much | 15:34 |
| AL13N_work | also i'm probably between order 2000 and 3000 so... | 15:35 |
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| Venemo_j | AL13N_work: what do you mean? | 15:47 |
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| AL13N_work | i ordered after 2000 units were sold already | 15:49 |
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| Kabouik | It keeps failing, I think I've done 4 version --dup attempts now, each with 3 automatic retries in case of failure | 16:26 |
| Kabouik | Still this issue with store credentials on adaptation0, adaptation1, aliendalvik, eas, store, xt9 | 16:27 |
| coderus | well, then store credentials are broken | 16:28 |
| coderus | factory reset and upgrade everything :) | 16:28 |
| Kabouik | How is it possible that they are broken? I did update a couple apps yesterday using the store application, before the first version --dup that failed due to full memory | 16:31 |
| coderus | update broken it? | 16:32 |
| coderus | btw, can you show journal of lipstick again? | 16:33 |
| Kabouik | http://pastebin.com/GJCQLcP3 this is the log from yesterday, I've not updated it | 16:34 |
| coderus | i want new log of course | 16:36 |
| Kabouik | http://pastebin.com/rDfNAmgQ coderus | 16:38 |
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| coderus | Kabouik: you need to install also this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ewiwgm1luhvqzpi/lipstick-qt5-0.26.5.4-1.52.1.armv7hl.rpm?dl=0 | 16:41 |
| Kabouik | Done | 16:42 |
| Kabouik | Well no, not done | 16:43 |
| Kabouik | Fatal error: Installation aborted by user | 16:43 |
| Kabouik | (I did not abort) | 16:43 |
| coderus | install it | 16:43 |
| Kabouik | I did that: pkcon install-local /home/nemo/Downloads/lipstick-qt5-0.26.5.4-1.52.1.armv7hl.rpm | 16:44 |
| Kabouik | Installation began, then I said "Done" a bit too early, cause I got the Fatal error right after | 16:44 |
| coderus | do with zypper in and show output | 16:44 |
| Kabouik | PackageKit is blocking zypper. This happens if you have an updater applet or other software management application using PackageKit running. | 16:45 |
| Kabouik | Tell PackageKit to quit? [yes/no] (no): | 16:45 |
| coderus | or with rpm -i if no zypper | 16:45 |
| coderus | yes of course | 16:45 |
| Kabouik | Just wanted to make sure | 16:46 |
| coderus | :) | 16:46 |
| Kabouik | http://pastebin.com/P1S3Dd11 | 16:46 |
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| coderus | it installed | 16:47 |
| coderus | restart lipstick\ | 16:47 |
| Kabouik | Wow, zypper ps output is frightening. | 16:47 |
| Kabouik | Huge progress coderus, I now have the launcher back, as well as gestures working | 16:49 |
| coderus | good :) | 16:49 |
| coderus | try to readd your jolla account now | 16:50 |
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| Kabouik | Weird, I still ping successfully through ssh, but the Jolla UI itself seems to fail accessing the internet | 16:51 |
| Kabouik | Guess I have to take back the SIM card I temporarily put in good ol' N900 this morning. :D | 16:51 |
| coderus | Kabouik: why not connect to wifi? | 16:53 |
| coderus | or sim yes | 16:53 |
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| Kabouik | WPA Enterprise WiFi here, can't connect Jolla to it | 16:54 |
| Kabouik | Re-entered my credentials in Jolla Account | 16:55 |
| coderus | try again then :) | 16:55 |
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| Kabouik | Wait, Settings crashed when I deleted the Jolla account and created a new one (just to make sure, better than just updating credentials) | 16:58 |
| coderus | yes you need to delete old account and add it again | 16:59 |
| Kabouik | I did that but then it crashed during confirmation, and now the account is added to the list, but inactive. I reckon it still fails to connect to the internet: the data icon is striked out, and phone reception icon is empty, and if I try to search Sailfish OS updates through the UI, it hangs at "Wait for connection" | 17:00 |
| Kabouik | However, in ssh or directly in Fingerterm, ping works | 17:00 |
| Kabouik | Soryr the data icon is not striked out, it has an excalamation mark on it | 17:01 |
| coderus | do not try to do it in ui | 17:01 |
| coderus | you only need to add jolla account | 17:01 |
| Kabouik | Yes sure, I just wanted to test | 17:02 |
| Kabouik | I would not have updated | 17:02 |
| coderus | it wont work because system soesnt know about internet | 17:03 |
| Kabouik | There are still issues with lipstick I think, all icons on lockscreen are greyed out: data connection with "!", Wifi with a '!' if I enable it, phone network empty, and even the battery pecentage shows no number | 17:04 |
| coderus | don't think about it | 17:04 |
| coderus | you need to get jolla account working to restore update | 17:04 |
| Kabouik | I'm version --duping again, but the Jolla account was added though not enabled then | 17:05 |
| coderus | do you have /usr/lib/connman/tools/connmanctl installed? | 17:07 |
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| Kabouik | No tools/connmanctl folder | 17:08 |
| coderus | install this package if no: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ugk6xigag7v08f3/connman-tools-1.24%2Bgit81-1.11.1.armv7hl.rpm?dl=0 | 17:08 |
| Kabouik | there is only "scripts" inside my /usr/lib/connman dir | 17:08 |
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| coderus | install package | 17:09 |
| Kabouik | Shouldn't I let version --dup finish first? Can't install in a second ssh term, the installation is added to queue but won't proceed | 17:11 |
| Tegu | fox | 17:11 |
| Tegu | oops | 17:11 |
| coderus | Kabouik: you said it can't fetch repos | 17:11 |
| Kabouik | I said I added the Jolla account but it crashed the settings app, then I checked, the account was there but inactive | 17:12 |
| coderus | you said version --dup showed errors | 17:12 |
| Kabouik | I tried version --dup just in case it would enable it (since there is internet connection in ssh) | 17:12 |
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| coderus | so stop it | 17:13 |
| Kabouik | Alright, done | 17:13 |
| coderus | installed package? | 17:13 |
| Kabouik | Connman tools installing | 17:13 |
| Kabouik | Don't know why it's taking so long, it stays in the "Waiting in queue" step, though there is no other actions ongoing on my Jolla | 17:14 |
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| coderus | install with zypper, it will clear queue :D | 17:14 |
| Kabouik | D: | 17:14 |
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| Kabouik | Crap, when Zypper asks me to stop PackageKit, I say yes, and then it tells me PackageKit is still running. | 17:15 |
| coderus | do it many times :D | 17:16 |
| Kabouik | When should I consider giving up? D: | 17:17 |
| cb400f | pretty quickly | 17:18 |
| coderus | Kabouik: idk, try after reboot | 17:18 |
| Kabouik | Well then I did it like 40 times | 17:18 |
| Kabouik | Ok | 17:18 |
| cb400f | killall packagekitd ... or just let packagekit finish | 17:18 |
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| cb400f | oh, dammit.. I thought I was in #suse | 17:20 |
| cb400f | :-) | 17:20 |
| Kabouik | Took a lot of time to actually install, but installation successful coderus | 17:21 |
| coderus | cool | 17:22 |
| coderus | /usr/lib/connman/tools/connmanctl services|grep gadget|cut -b 26-|tail -1 | 17:22 |
| Kabouik | Done, no output | 17:23 |
| coderus | no? | 17:23 |
| Kabouik | Nothing, either as root or nemo | 17:23 |
| coderus | just /usr/lib/connman/tools/connmanctl services|grep gadget then | 17:23 |
| Kabouik | Same | 17:23 |
| coderus | ah wait | 17:24 |
| Kabouik | I should offer you my Jolla, seems to be a pretty mysterious unit for a dev. :D Or a time sink. | 17:24 |
| Kabouik | You would offer me a working one in exchange :') | 17:24 |
| Kabouik | win-win. | 17:24 |
| coderus | you need to remove from /etc/connman/main.conf NetworkInterfaceBlacklist line rndis, so it should be NetworkInterfaceBlacklist = p2p,usb,rmnet,rev_rmnet | 17:25 |
| coderus | and reboot after doing this | 17:26 |
| Kabouik | Rebooting | 17:26 |
| coderus | after reboot you should have gadget service | 17:27 |
| Kabouik | Wired gadget_667b71dcf209_usb | 17:28 |
| coderus | cool | 17:28 |
| coderus | /usr/lib/connman/tools/connmanctl config gadget_667b71dcf209_usb --ipv4 manual phone_ip 255.255.255.0 pc_ip --nameservers 8.8.8.8 | 17:29 |
| Kabouik | I have no idea what it does, I'm just doing what my doc is saying to heal me :] | 17:29 |
| coderus | ctl connect gadget_667b71dcf209_usb | 17:29 |
| coderus | /usr/lib/connman/tools/connmanctl connect gadget_667b71dcf209_usb | 17:29 |
| Kabouik | The first one fails because of "invalid arguments" | 17:30 |
| coderus | so you need to replace it with your phone and pc ip address of course | 17:31 |
| Kabouik | Yes but I still have the invalid argument issue | 17:32 |
| Kabouik | Let me try again, I think I've nailed it | 17:32 |
| Kabouik | Ok | 17:33 |
| coderus | done? | 17:33 |
| coderus | both? | 17:33 |
| Kabouik | Yep | 17:33 |
| coderus | so, now you should have internet in ui | 17:33 |
| coderus | check with bowser or whatever | 17:33 |
| Kabouik | Nope, though I did get the "Connected gadget_667b71dcf209_usb" confirmation in ssh | 17:35 |
| coderus | try /usr/lib/connman/tools/connmanctl disable wifi and disable cellular | 17:37 |
| Kabouik | 3G seems to work better than before reboot though, I could enable the Jolla account using it (I couldn't before reboot) | 17:38 |
| Kabouik | So I skip your last comment, right? | 17:38 |
| coderus | yes, i thought your cellular not working | 17:39 |
| Kabouik | For your information, if I open the store, it says I have no account set | 17:40 |
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| Kabouik | I thought "What? I just did it", Store offered me to connect again so I did it. And now I have to identical Jolla accounts in Settings/Accounts. | 17:40 |
| Kabouik | And store still says I have no account. | 17:41 |
| coderus | try doing zypper ref | 17:42 |
| Kabouik | Problem retrieving files from 'adaptation0'. | 17:44 |
| Kabouik | Store credentials not received. Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. | 17:44 |
| Kabouik | Just to make sure, I did try to set a Jolla account with a wrong password, and it returned an error. So it's not the problem here, I entered the correct password (and the account is shown as Active in Jolla settings) | 17:45 |
| Kabouik | Same error is appearing for adaptation1, aliendalvik, xt9 and so on just like the errors in version --dup | 17:46 |
| anonfriese | hei guys, before i go looking: anyone ever did something to let the jolla open an app or sth. like that if voltage on toh-interface is applied? | 17:46 |
| coderus | Kabouik: try installing following: https://www.dropbox.com/s/sz14rcuz1d9368q/jolla-settings-accounts-extensions-jolla-0.2.49.2-10.68.1.jolla.armv7hl.rpm?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/dsj3tfiwzcgohbx/ssu-0.40.8-1.24.3.armv7hl.rpm?dl=0 if still no success i don't know more :) | 17:47 |
| kimmoli | anonfriese: please elaborate "voltage on toh applied?" | 17:48 |
| anonfriese | well i have a wireless charger (palm touchstone) and when i stick my jolla to it for charging i'd like an app to start | 17:49 |
| anonfriese | chargemon (didn't you actually write that kimmoli?) lists that as dc input voltage of around 4.5 volts | 17:49 |
| anonfriese | i don't know yet though what would be the best way... possibly upower? | 17:50 |
| Kabouik | I'm letting zypper ref continue and then I try to install them coderus | 17:50 |
| kimmoli | anonfriese: you can monitor dbus also, iirc it says what type of charging is started | 17:51 |
| kimmoli | shell-script is the fastest way to experiment, use e.g. xdg-launch to start .desktop file if you get dbus-monitor to catch correct signal | 17:53 |
| anonfriese | hmm okay | 17:53 |
| Kabouik | Installed the two packages coderus | 17:54 |
| anonfriese | hmm, i'm a bit new to dbus... are there any useful guides? using dbus-monitor --system i already got some mce-stuff about activating the charging led - nothing toh-specific though | 17:54 |
| coderus | Kabouik: now try remove account, reboot, add account and try zypper ref | 17:55 |
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| anonfriese | humm, i can watch dbus for power-connected events and can then check upower -d which gives me a line_power_dc and a line_power_usb boolean, now off to some shell scripting :) | 17:59 |
| kimmoli | :) | 17:59 |
| anonfriese | humm, upower is interesting... apparently my battery has 87% of it's capacity left (it's an device from the first preorder), can anyone top that? | 18:00 |
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| raa700 | 90,5% | 18:02 |
| r0kk3rz | that value can fluctuate fairly wildly | 18:03 |
| raa700 | phone wasn't used for a couple of months | 18:03 |
| Kabouik | At reboot I had a warning notification at the top of the screen coderus. Rough translation from the French: "Store has encountered a critical problem, blah blah, you're screwed, blah" | 18:06 |
| Kabouik | And still the same credentials not received error when I try zypper ref. Shouldn't I reinstall store-client? | 18:06 |
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| coderus | Kabouik: last thing you can try is remove account, remove /etc/ssu/ssu.ini and install this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/p1vuu7kqhvejyut/ssu-vendor-data-jolla-0.86-10.25.3.jolla.noarch.rpm?dl=0 | 18:09 |
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| Kabouik | Removed account, removed ssu.ini, installed package, rebooted, successfully added account again, and Store still says I have no account set | 18:17 |
| Kabouik | zypper ref ongoing, expect the same issue | 18:17 |
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| coderus | i don't know where account details is stored, sorry | 18:19 |
| Kabouik | Confirmed, still the same issue "Store credentials not received". Starting with adaptation0 package, but the same will happen for adaptation1, eas, aliendalvik, xt9 | 18:20 |
| Kabouik | It just looks like my store client is broken | 18:20 |
| coderus | it does nothing with store client afaik | 18:20 |
| coderus | store client is just jolla store | 18:20 |
| Kabouik | It recognizes I have no account when I start it, successfully offers me to add one, successfully connect to it (because it enables it and asks confirmation), and when it's done, still can't find any account | 18:21 |
| Kabouik | ok | 18:21 |
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| Kabouik | I guess I'm screwed. :) I'll wait a bit before trying the last resort factory reset though, will use my N900 in the meantime. Just in case someone has an additional idea on TJC or here (please highlight me on Kabouik_ or Kabouik if so). | 18:24 |
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| Kabouik | coderus, I don't know how to thank you for all the time you sunk in my issue. I'm really very grateful, and sorry for the loss of time | 18:24 |
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| * stephg reads backlog | 19:29 | |
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| Nicd- | well thanks for telling us | 19:34 |
| stephg | Nicd-: ? | 19:34 |
| Nicd- | :P | 19:34 |
| stephg | oooOOOoo! | 19:35 |
| * stephg raises handbag | 19:35 | |
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| kimmoli | http://developer.what3words.com/ | 19:39 |
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| stephg | kimmoli: I've been looking at that for 5 minutes now and still don't know what it does | 19:54 |
| kimmoli | 3-word address for every 3x3m square aroud the world | 19:54 |
| stephg | aaaaaah | 19:56 |
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| oodako | can anyone tell me how to add an xmpp contact on jolla? | 22:21 |
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| fennekki | you don't | 22:22 |
| fennekki | I mean, at least last time I checked, you couldn't add them, not on the jolla | 22:23 |
| stephg | contact not account? | 22:23 |
| oodako | contact | 22:23 |
| oodako | account's already there | 22:23 |
| stephg | don't think there's any roster management unfortunately | 22:24 |
| oodako | unfortunately indeed, since this is my only device i'm using xmpp on :( | 22:24 |
| stephg | wherever that jabber server is you should be able to alter the roster another way? | 22:25 |
| oodako | not really, at least i can't see how | 22:27 |
| oodako | using prosody | 22:27 |
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| stephg | oodako: as fennekki said I don't think there's an on-device method:- I've just had a quick look at People and email is a thing there but not the various chat platforms | 22:32 |
| stephg | sorry :( | 22:33 |
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| oodako | that's what i thought when looking at contacts | 22:38 |
| oodako | sad, but thanks anyway | 22:38 |
| oodako | i'll fall back to a client on my laptop for roster management for now | 22:39 |
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| Oksana | What does it mean when they say "tactile pads"? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/octodon/octodon Bluetooth keyboard for a mobile phone. Magnet-attachable. Pocket-able. Quick-typing. /Steep learning curve, though.../ | 23:25 |
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