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| tadzik | sigh, after the update emails don't autosync anymore | 01:18 |
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| tadzik | so did twitter, but twitter doesn't even refresh manually | 05:33 |
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| chriadam | tadzik: can you provide some logs of sync? | 05:36 |
| chriadam | systemctl --user stop msyncd | 05:36 |
| chriadam | killall msyncd | 05:36 |
| chriadam | MSYNCD_LOGGING_LEVEL=8 devel-su -p msyncd | 05:36 |
| chriadam | then in different terminal: | 05:36 |
| chriadam | devel-su journalctl -af | grep twitter | 05:36 |
| chriadam | then trigger sync via the pulley | 05:36 |
| chriadam | send the logs from the journalctl terminal to chris dot adams at jolla dot com | 05:37 |
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| tadzik | Hmm, yes, I remember you giving me these instructions before, end then it magically fixed itself :) let's see | 06:03 |
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| chem|st | I'd love to tag some people bleeding-edge-noobs... | 07:59 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | chem|st: that's a fun anthithesis | 08:05 |
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| chem|st | SfietKonstantinW: "help unofficial business on RC not working" | 08:13 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | chem|st: ... | 08:15 |
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| jaacoppi | that's way better than "everything used to work but after I did something nothing works anymore" | 08:47 |
| rubdos | If I make an OSHW TOH (open source hardware other half), which license would you guys prefer? Should I just GPL it? | 08:48 |
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| Tofe | rubdos: you should look at other open hardware licenses, I don't think the GPL would really fit for hardware | 08:50 |
| rubdos | Tofe, RepRap is under GPL, mostly... | 08:50 |
| rubdos | problem is that most of the OSHW licenses are not old enough. | 08:51 |
| rubdos | (not mature I mean) | 08:51 |
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| kimmoli | rubdos: creative commons is one choice? | 08:55 |
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| temmi_hoo | cern has some oshw licence too | 08:55 |
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| rubdos | temmi_hoo, I'm thinking about that one indeed | 08:56 |
| rubdos | kimmoli, and yes, I'm also considering CC BY SA :) | 08:56 |
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| rubdos | I'll see. I have a pretty long debugging process in front of me :p | 08:56 |
| rubdos | Do you guys know whether you can stick a PCB with 1mm of SMD components between the original TOH and the phone? | 08:57 |
| TemeV | most likely not | 08:58 |
| TemeV | atleast not normal pcb | 08:58 |
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| kimmoli | no. there is like 0 space | 09:00 |
| rubdos | :( | 09:00 |
| rubdos | Just checked in Blender. 0 indeed :p | 09:01 |
| TemeV | I wonder how is the sd card interface wired, could it be used for some other purpose :) | 09:02 |
| kimmoli | to SoC , spi could be propably tweaked but needs fuzzind linux drivers etc... | 09:03 |
| tbr | or SDIO | 09:04 |
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| flux | if there was a 1 mm gap behind the back plate, you would be able to depress it | 09:05 |
| tbr | to give you an idea, a quite thin Qi charging tag, will fit, but make the toh bulge | 09:06 |
| tbr | so you could fit something in if you are into producing capton circuits an placing 0401 components on them | 09:07 |
| flux | or you could just order a modified toh from shapeways, minus the rfid sticker?-) | 09:08 |
| rubdos | flux, I guess I'll go with that :) | 09:08 |
| rubdos | Or design one entirely myself... | 09:08 |
| tbr | that's the obvious choice. just hilighting the limitations of feasibility of what he originally asked for | 09:09 |
| rubdos | tbr, I'm using 2512 modules :/ | 09:09 |
| temmi_hoo | i know people who hand solder 0204 pieces | 09:11 |
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| rubdos | I pity people who hand solder them. Gonna use the pizza oven I think... :p | 09:12 |
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| TemeV | 0402 is easy to hand solder | 09:13 |
| TemeV | smaller than that gets difficult | 09:14 |
| flux | and easy to lose | 09:14 |
| TemeV | yeah, there is like 50% of 0402 lost when hand soldering :) | 09:14 |
| TemeV | and because there is no prints on them, after dropping the component you can't be sure the component you pick up is the one you just dropped :) | 09:15 |
| rubdos | lol | 09:15 |
| temmi_hoo | so don't pick them | 09:15 |
| temmi_hoo | lost is lost | 09:15 |
| TemeV | temmi_hoo: I don't | 09:15 |
| flux | you can measure them :) | 09:16 |
| rubdos | I *might* be able to use the manual pick and place machine and the oven at the university... | 09:16 |
| rubdos | gtg now | 09:16 |
| * rubdos will be back! | 09:16 | |
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| temmi_hoo | we got a metcal at the lab easing soldering a lot | 09:18 |
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| ln- | http://elisa.fi/ipv6 | 09:51 |
| Nicd- | nothing yet for wired :/ | 09:51 |
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| pp | dna has, but I simply can't figure out why I can't get a IP on linux (macos gets one fine) | 10:10 |
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| pp | did get a prefix with dhclient a few weeks back, but that stopped working, maybe I'm on a blacklist :-) | 10:10 |
| Nicd- | pp: on wired? | 10:10 |
| pp | yup | 10:10 |
| Nicd- | source? | 10:11 |
| pp | https://www.dna.fi/ipv6 | 10:11 |
| pp | Kiinteä laajakaista: | 10:11 |
| pp | Kaikki kaapelilaajakaistatuotteet | 10:11 |
| Nicd- | whoa | 10:12 |
| Nicd- | elisa get your shit together | 10:12 |
| Nicd- | I want my dual stack and I want it now | 10:12 |
| TemeV | Tampereenpuhelin has no plan for ipv6 :/ | 10:12 |
| pp | dhclient -6 -P -N -v -d -i em1 should give you a /56 | 10:12 |
| Nicd- | ooh /56 | 10:12 |
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| ln- | anyone tried IPv6 on N9? there's an optional package for that. | 10:13 |
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| ScreamerX | Hello, does the android support depend on Yandex Store? Can yandex savely be removed without causing problems with android apps? | 13:03 |
| Stskeeps | no, it doesn't, and yes, you can remove it | 13:03 |
| SfietKonstantinW | ScreamerX: hello: you can remove yandex store yes | 13:03 |
| SfietKonstantinW | in early releases there was a dependency that tired android support to yandex | 13:03 |
| SfietKonstantinW | but now it should be ok | 13:03 |
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| ScreamerX | thank you for the fast reply. | 13:04 |
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| Yaniel | 1.1.6 update seems to have gone smooth as butter | 14:31 |
| h4PPYC4T | yep. here as well. :) | 14:34 |
| Nicd- | for some reason my mobile network in settings says "limited connectivity", any idea what that means? | 14:35 |
| Nicd- | I'm on wifi currently, related to that? | 14:35 |
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| Morpog_PC | Still waiting for that blogpost about display change :D | 18:15 |
| Stskeeps | Morpog_PC: watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf9f7-yibYQ meanwhile | 18:16 |
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| HtheB | Is Jere Hakala here? | 18:22 |
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| HtheB_ | Stskeeps: I have a question | 18:23 |
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| HtheB_ | how can I contact the QA team of the Jolla store? | 18:23 |
| Nicd- | HtheB_: developer-care@jolla.com | 18:24 |
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| HtheB_ | thnx Nicd- | 18:27 |
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| oida | Hi everyone | 18:30 |
| oida | just found in release notes for 1.1.6 > Import calendar entries (.vcs, .ical) transferred to your phone via Settings > System > Transfers to Calendar app | 18:31 |
| oida | but can't find it? I have an ical feed hosted online I need to subscribe to | 18:31 |
| oida | possible? | 18:31 |
| oida | Or do I have to download the ical file first? | 18:32 |
| oida | which would mean I'd miss any updates, right? | 18:32 |
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| kimmoli | does your feed work with caldav? | 18:37 |
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| sakustar | lol jolla.com renders wrong with a jolla :( | 18:53 |
| ln- | you are confusing "lol" with ":(" | 18:54 |
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| leinir | "so sad you can only laugh to avoid crying" | 18:56 |
| chem|st | laughing of sadness like tears of joy | 18:57 |
| sakustar | ln-: those 2 know whats up ;) | 18:59 |
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| oida | kimmoli: I don't think so, it's ical | 19:33 |
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| kimmoli | worth to test? | 19:34 |
| oida | Just tried to add the ical file as caldav but it won't accept until I add an user/password but the feed doesn't have auth | 19:35 |
| kimmoli | ah | 19:35 |
| Trizt | Since 1.1.4 I haven't been able to see my photos on sdcard, any setting which needs to be change to index content on the sdcard? | 19:36 |
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| Trizt | and no "tracker-control -es" don't fix it | 19:39 |
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| oida | ok I figured when I navigate with Jolla browser to the calender and click the .ics link ics file will appear in transfers and I can then add it to an existing calendar. However, it will only add events and not subscribe to it. So I will miss any updates in the future and if I download it again after it's been updated I will have duplicate events. So the way it is right now it's not exactly useful to me. | 19:47 |
| oida | :( | 19:47 |
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| oida | I found a existing question @together and bumped it: https://together.jolla.com/question/72168/allow-for-subscribing-to-ical-resources/?answer=95426#post-id-95426 | 20:06 |
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| urs | Anybody know what the conditions are for a music file to be selectable as a ringtone / alarm tone? | 20:14 |
| urs | I have 26 files visible in my media app, but only 11 are selectable as ringtones | 20:14 |
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| Trizt | depends on the audio type, you can install some extra audio codex and you can pick more, but that is from 3rd party repository | 20:16 |
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| urs | Trizt: but the media app plays them just fine | 20:21 |
| urs | shouldn't that be... the same code, basically? | 20:21 |
| Trizt | should, but this is sailfishos | 20:21 |
| Trizt | did you install extra codeces or you have just support for the standard audio formats? | 20:21 |
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| urs | No extra codecs, all basically vanilla. | 20:21 |
| HtheB | juiceme: it's approved :) | 20:22 |
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| HtheB | the very first fart app for Sailfish OS has become a reality :P | 20:22 |
| Trizt | okey, I think you can get a few more if you do install codecs from warehouse, got that way support for the ringtones from my n900 | 20:22 |
| urs | Trizt: but it doesn't seem to depend on the codec. Some flacs can be chosen as ringtones, some can't. | 20:22 |
| r0kk3rz | yep, because thats what we were missing HtheB | 20:22 |
| urs | Trizt: and some oggs can and some can't | 20:22 |
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| r0kk3rz | codec maybe not so much, but container format maybe | 20:23 |
| Trizt | urs: maybe it has to do with variable bit rates | 20:23 |
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| urs | Is there any way to get debug messages as to *why* it doesn't list the other ones? | 20:25 |
| * Trizt shrugs | 20:25 | |
| r0kk3rz | look at the files it lists, look at ones it doesnt, determine difference | 20:27 |
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| urs | ok, I got one here that works, and one that doesn't... both are flac, encoded with the same encoder version | 20:32 |
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| r0kk3rz | length? filesize? | 20:33 |
| r0kk3rz | does it have an apostrophe in the name? | 20:35 |
| urs | is different of course, those are two different pieces of music | 20:35 |
| r0kk3rz | yes but wildly different? | 20:35 |
| r0kk3rz | you said you also have 11 others to compare to as well | 20:35 |
| urs | yeah, I'll check some more things | 20:35 |
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| r0kk3rz | probably an idea not to use flacs as ringtones anyway | 20:49 |
| coderus | urs: filenames? paths? | 20:49 |
| r0kk3rz | use something like audacity to cut them down and mp3 encode them to just the first 30sec | 20:49 |
| r0kk3rz | a lot of the dialler stuff is permanently loaded into memory | 20:50 |
| r0kk3rz | not sure if that includes ringtones or not, but possibly | 20:50 |
| coderus | if you copy it to /usr/share/sounds/jolla-ringtones/stereo | 20:50 |
| HtheB | coderus: it's on the Store :) | 20:51 |
| coderus | HtheB: :D | 20:51 |
| coderus | i said you, it will be easy, just make em happy. | 20:51 |
| urs | coderus: even if I name them "test1.flac" and "test2.flac" and put them into the same directory, only one of them is selectable | 20:52 |
| HtheB | yaeh | 20:52 |
| HtheB | any idea if you're going to update eventsview patch? | 20:52 |
| urs | coderus: no, even if I copy them to the jolla-ringtones directory, they aren't visible | 20:55 |
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| MoritzJT | Sorry to bother you, do you by any chance know the download size of latest opt in update? | 21:41 |
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