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| Laxtlo_ | mutta tää jollan irc clientti on kyllä päällikkö | 06:40 |
| Jope | saisikohan siihen yhden pulley menun viel jotenkin ;-) | 06:41 |
| dr_gogeta86 | ? | 06:41 |
| Jope | don't worry, it's Finnish - the only language worth learning | 06:41 |
| SQUelcher | Unbreakable encryption! | 06:42 |
| mattaustin | I got "irc clientti" and "pulley menun" :) | 06:44 |
| dr_gogeta86 | Jope: if my contractor help me to go there sometimes is ok | 06:45 |
| dr_gogeta86 | but the hlk office is full of people | 06:45 |
| Jope | :-) | 06:45 |
| dr_gogeta86 | when is next community meeting? | 06:48 |
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| citylight2 | I was looking for some news yesterday. noticed Jolla changed their office. any other news? | 08:00 |
| Yaniel | depends on how much you know | 08:01 |
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| citylight2 | I know about the blog.jolla.com last post | 08:01 |
| Yaniel | nothing notable since that | 08:02 |
| citylight2 | so I guess we wont see a new phone any time soon. can I run sail os on a newsus 5x? | 08:03 |
| phlixi_ | except, we now have december | 08:03 |
| phlixi_ | maybe an intex phone in jan. | 08:03 |
| citylight2 | what is the most advanced hadware to run sailos on? | 08:03 |
| citylight2 | is the intex phone in progress? | 08:04 |
| phlixi_ | jolla phone if you would like to have android app support | 08:04 |
| phlixi_ | without android app support, idk, i guess nexus 5 | 08:04 |
| phlixi_ | however, i got an nexus 5 for work stuff (its on the office desk for testing), and i would not like that as my actual mobile phone | 08:05 |
| phlixi_ | to me it feels like a cheap piece of crappy plastic | 08:07 |
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| phlixi_ | on the other hand, i have an iphone for the same reasons, and i think the metal is really slippery... dangerous, since due to the small size you think you can handle that with one hand | 08:08 |
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| phlixi_ | the jolla lies well in your hand (although i still prefer n9 in that respect^^) | 08:09 |
| Devaux1 | You can get a Xiaomi Mi 4c with 3GB RAM and 32GB Storage for about $250 | 08:09 |
| Devaux1 | But yes, it's Android | 08:10 |
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| till | yay... got whatsup blocked... | 10:57 |
| dr_gogeta86 | mine still works | 10:57 |
| Nicd- | I'm using whatsapp from my IRC client, just waiting to be banned :P | 10:58 |
| coderus | use android | 10:58 |
| till | i tried some group administration, seems correctly implemented | 10:58 |
| Nicd- | I don't have dalvik on my phone and don't plan on installing it either | 10:58 |
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| coderus | thats your choice | 11:00 |
| Nicd- | I just set it up for fun anyway, not a big deal if I get banned. should set up notifications from my IRC client to phone though | 11:01 |
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| coderus | having dalvik just for 1-2 apps is easy. you can always stop dalvi service | 11:04 |
| ggabriel | I have to agree with coderus | 11:04 |
| ggabriel | howerver, for an "app" that you use all the time, things may change | 11:05 |
| ggabriel | I wouldn't use whatsapp all the time though | 11:05 |
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| Nicd- | I would keep it on all the time | 11:06 |
| dr_gogeta86 | coderus, i still missing the quality of mitakuuluu 2 | 11:06 |
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| Nicd- | not much point in a messaging service where people can't reach me (in my usage) | 11:07 |
| ggabriel | Nicd-: the best feature of a messaging service is that you can reach people, not the other way around :P | 11:07 |
| Nicd- | ggabriel: maybe it's just me but I want them to be able to reach me too :) | 11:08 |
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| Nicd- | I mean, otherwise might as well keep disconnecting from IRC too | 11:08 |
| ggabriel | doesn't whatsapp have offline messaging? | 11:09 |
| Nicd- | I don't think so because when I fired up my IRC-whatsapp system I got a ton of old messages | 11:11 |
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| coderus | dr_gogeta86: i know, but i'm almost gived up watching whatsapp constantly changing many things from update to update | 11:12 |
| ggabriel | pretty crap if it doesn't support that | 11:12 |
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| ggabriel | on a completely unrelated note, I kind of like sandisk's rma site... they give you the estiamted delivery date in epoc | 11:19 |
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| phlixi_o | and will you get yours before or after 1970? | 11:39 |
| ggabriel | def after :P | 11:39 |
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| s5pik3 | Hi guys! Maybe this was asked before but, somebody knows here what's going on with the delivery of the phones? I ordered mine a couple of week before and status doesn't change. So if anyone here some infos about that to enlighten me? | 11:57 |
| Nicd- | the company is in debt restructuring | 11:59 |
| Nicd- | dunno what daily operations are running | 11:59 |
| phlixi_o | according to meeting phone shipments should be processed... write an email to care@jolla.com | 12:00 |
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| ln- | isn't care@jolla.com closed since who knows how long ago | 12:01 |
| s5pik3 | yes thank you, I will to that | 12:01 |
| s5pik3 | oh | 12:01 |
| s5pik3 | well | 12:01 |
| ln- | all you will get a is an automated reply that points you to... zendesk or whatever | 12:01 |
| s5pik3 | I guess, I can and see what happends | 12:02 |
| s5pik3 | I can try* | 12:02 |
| ln- | happens* | 12:03 |
| s5pik3 | oh yes, thanks ^^' | 12:03 |
| cybette | s5pik3: more direct - create a care request here https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new | 12:07 |
| s5pik3 | thanks cybette ! | 12:07 |
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| Coolgeek | I think they have logistic issue (that's what they told me in a current ticket opened at zendesk) | 12:14 |
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| cehteh | is it possible to set the threshold for connman to switch wifi networks earlier? | 13:58 |
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| cehteh | as now it only reconnects when the connection is lost or? | 13:58 |
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| caitlinb | what’s the little hole on the opposite side of the usb hole to the headphone hole? | 14:41 |
| caitlinb | till i know, i shall call it “the blow hole” | 14:42 |
| cehteh | microphone i'd guess | 14:42 |
| caitlinb | i’d expect taht down at the butt end of the phone, but possibly noise cancelling? | 14:43 |
| cehteh | yes | 14:43 |
| tbr | it has two microphones | 14:43 |
| cehteh | most phones have 2 mics | 14:43 |
| cehteh | one for you, the other for the NSA | 14:44 |
| tbr | also not sure about current state, but for making SIP calls you actually need to hold the phone "wrong" (i.e. upside down) as audio will be routed to speaker and ambient microphone... | 14:44 |
| cehteh | wtf | 14:45 |
| coderus | because there is no complete sip solution yet | 14:46 |
| cehteh | why has the phone so much fuckups :D | 14:46 |
| caitlinb | because it’s AWESOME | 14:46 |
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| coderus | everybody like challenges, isn't it? :) | 14:51 |
| tbr | if someone wants to, they can fix the audio routing for SIP, it might including fixing up some PROLOG policy code... | 14:52 |
| phlixi_o | unlike the good old times, nobody will notice that you hold you phone wrong | 14:52 |
| coderus | they will. camera at the bottom :) | 14:55 |
| phlixi_o | i am sure there are otherhalfs where you can not the cam, | 14:57 |
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| phlixi_o | ...see... | 14:57 |
| phlixi_o | :D | 14:57 |
| ggabriel | i admit that i tried to take a picture with the keyboard on a few times :P | 15:00 |
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| cehteh | tbr: i know prolog :) | 15:05 |
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| tbr | cehteh: do iiiiit! | 15:12 |
| cehteh | maybe .. i only know from the n900 that there was some prolog policy thingy, but never looked closer | 15:13 |
| cehteh | and i have now a android sip thing | 15:13 |
| cehteh | but i may try to get native sip running soon | 15:13 |
| ggabriel | proper prolog or you mean the rules are similar to how prolog works? | 15:13 |
| cehteh | ggabriel: the policy system uses swi prolog | 15:14 |
| cehteh | forgotten the name | 15:14 |
| ggabriel | that's interesting in a very geeky way, thanks | 15:14 |
| cehteh | not only similar .. real prolog! | 15:14 |
| the_mgt | that is really nerdy indeed | 15:15 |
| cehteh | when i thought years ago about a app similar to 'situations' i wanted to do it in prolog as well | 15:15 |
| the_mgt | any links? | 15:15 |
| cehteh | tbr might know ... | 15:15 |
| the_mgt | I think plain logics might be too strict | 15:16 |
| ggabriel | i know how to order white and black beans with prolog, which is basically what they used to test when i was in uni. that was what prolog was for | 15:16 |
| the_mgt | I currently have a lecture where we use Datalog | 15:16 |
| the_mgt | that's why I installed prolog about a week ago | 15:16 |
| tbr | there should be a resource policy package | 15:19 |
| tbr | https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/policy-settings-common/tree/common/basic/policy | 15:22 |
| tbr | apparently this stuff came out of nokia research center. I suspect some scientistc just was fond of prolog and that's how it stuck. | 15:24 |
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| cehteh | its really a good language for that | 15:30 |
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| the_mgt | probably the easiest way to do deductive reasoning | 15:30 |
| cehteh | would be nice to investigate if gnu prolog could be used because it compiles natively, but i dont know which arm platforms are supported | 15:30 |
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| Lipevakala_ | Hmm, new app in Sailfish Store so somebody is indeed working..... | 19:06 |
| ln- | it's possible to set a release date in the future for an app. | 19:07 |
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| Lipevakala_ | Its only in Chinese but I liked it anyway.... | 19:12 |
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| flux | tbr, I actually think this is actually right in the center of prolog's domain.. lots of rules to decide what to do. | 20:21 |
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| tbr | k | 20:33 |
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