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| FireFly | I've used google sheets a bit recently, it's pretty powerful too | 02:23 |
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| FireFly | moreso than I thought | 02:23 |
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| Stskeeps | https://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-project-update/ | 07:08 |
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| locusf | oh the butthurts already on comment #2 | 07:35 |
| Yaniel | well the roads are slippery in this weather | 07:39 |
| Yaniel | not surprising that people slip and fall | 07:39 |
| * Stskeeps strongly would have preferred getting paid in ether or bitcoin, not paypal, but.. | 07:40 | |
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| the_mgt | hm, my religion prohibts doing business with paypal, what now? | 07:55 |
| Stskeeps | talk about it in constructive ways? | 07:55 |
| phlixi_ | or is it paypal pohibiting doing business with your religion? | 07:57 |
| pp_ | TABLET! | 07:59 |
| tbr | meh | 07:59 |
| phlixi_ | conspiracy theory: require paypal will be the next excuse, because paypal will lock the money :D | 08:00 |
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| pp_ | and LASTUCASE! | 08:00 |
| * tbr is still quite undecided between refund and hw | 08:00 | |
| phlixi_ | if you are fast i am sure you make a god deal selling it on ebay | 08:02 |
| phlixi_ | however, i am surprised that jolla has to build a toolchain for the refund and that there is nothing like that provided by igg | 08:03 |
| pp_ | well, in general you lose your money, so why have one?-) | 08:04 |
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| Stskeeps | phlixi: by the time it's sent from IGG to the company it's probably out of their hands | 08:24 |
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| phlixi | sure | 08:25 |
| phlixi | but (i dont know why) i expected igg to provide stuff | 08:25 |
| phlixi | in the end its KIND OF a payment provider | 08:25 |
| Stskeeps | meh, IGG should be replaced with an ethereum smart contract. | 08:25 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:26 |
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| tbr | Stskeeps: you are awfully fond of your newfound golden hammer, aren't you? | 08:38 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: oh yes, i definately have a hardon for blockchain | 08:38 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:38 |
| tbr | definitely! | 08:39 |
| tbr | no *a* in it | 08:39 |
| tbr | (pet peeve) | 08:39 |
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| pp_ | heh, it's been in a warehouse for a while, running 1.1.9.24 out of the box :D | 08:59 |
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| Sail0r | what | 09:08 |
| Sail0r | *Update* We have just recently shipped a batch of 77 devices to backers who earlier confirmed their order in the Jolla Shop. | 09:08 |
| Sail0r | 77 :D | 09:08 |
| pp_ | I feel like I own a unicorn | 09:11 |
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| chem|st | pp_: you do, iirc there will be no further batches than what has been produced | 09:27 |
| chem|st | in mint condition might be worth a fortune to collectors | 09:27 |
| r0kk3rz | chem|st: does anyone care about jolla devices? in the same way that they care about nokia devices? | 09:29 |
| r0kk3rz | im not sure | 09:29 |
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| pp_ | the big enthusiasts probably got the taobao ones already :-) | 09:39 |
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| Temppu-Teme | same question as yesterday: how can i remove all android contacts from Jolla? | 10:42 |
| Temppu-Teme | i managed to remove the contacts from sailfish, but alien-dalvik apps still see numbers and some name data | 10:43 |
| Temppu-Teme | i thought i got it with some "android contact deleter" -app from play store, those let me choose all for deletion but nothing is actually removed | 10:43 |
| Temppu-Teme | so i'm looking for the place where they are stored in the file system.. | 10:44 |
| Temppu-Teme | i _could_ factory reset... but don't want to | 10:46 |
| Temppu-Teme | seeing that it takes a few hours to update and also i don't want to reconfigure play store etc | 10:46 |
| the_mgt | Temppu-Teme: there is a checkbox in the android app that lets you share/unshare between android and sfos. is that what you are looking for? | 10:48 |
| the_mgt | in the config dialog for alien dalvik, i mean | 10:48 |
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| Temppu-Teme | nope, i want the app to be able to access the contacts (whatsapp, refuses to register without access).. i just want to empty the contact list | 10:49 |
| Temppu-Teme | now there are some numbers visible even though i deleted all contacts from sailfish | 10:50 |
| the_mgt | ah, ok. then I have no clue | 10:50 |
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| Temppu-Teme | i guess i'll have to do a factory reset :( | 11:06 |
| the_mgt | try removing dalvik first? | 11:11 |
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| the_mgt | or rather, just mv the directory and try with a fresh one. if the same failure happens, you know that it ain't fixable? | 11:12 |
| Temppu-Teme | hmm.. i already reset but thx anyway :d | 11:19 |
| PaulePanter | Hi. I think I asked two weeks ago, if there is any information when the new Sailfish OS version for the Jolla phone will be released. It has been a while. | 11:19 |
| Temppu-Teme | also, i would have "mv'd the directory" if i knew which one it is :) | 11:19 |
| PaulePanter | Any idea if the Jolla phone is therefore vulnerable to the glibc bug found two weeks ago? | 11:19 |
| Acce | PaulePanter: it is | 11:20 |
| PaulePanter | Acce: Oh. Then I am really looking forward to the upgrade. | 11:23 |
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| Temppu-Teme | i factory reset.. for 10 mins it just says "checking for update", is this normal? | 11:34 |
| Temppu-Teme | i updated to 2.x a couple days ago and had no issue | 11:34 |
| japa-fi_ | Temppu-Teme: I made updates yesterday to an Jolla which hadn't been used for a while. Had issues, which I finally traced to be because the phone's date and time were wayyy off. | 11:38 |
| japa-fi_ | (once I got it going, I installed 3 or 4 OS updates I think) | 11:38 |
| Temppu-Teme | it found 1.0.2.5 now :) | 11:42 |
| Temppu-Teme | i wonder how many updates i'm gonna have to do after reset to 2.x .... | 11:42 |
| Temppu-Teme | did 3 yesterday if IIRC and had 1.1.x installed | 11:42 |
| Temppu-Teme | -if | 11:42 |
| the_mgt | Temppu-Teme: /opt/alien is a good starting point, the info is on tjc | 11:43 |
| Temppu-Teme | i checked that and gave up | 11:43 |
| Temppu-Teme | i only tried to locate the contacts | 11:43 |
| Temppu-Teme | there were contacts directories, but under something like /opt/alien/qt5/qml/jolla or some such | 11:44 |
| Temppu-Teme | so i reset and hopefully won't ever need to care about it anymore ;) | 11:44 |
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| the_mgt | https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/popslate-2-smart-second-screen-for-iphone this could have been a nice toh | 12:21 |
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| TMavica | Anyone planned to travel to indian buy aqua phone? | 12:35 |
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| r0kk3rz | i wonder if i can get one shipped to malaysia... | 12:38 |
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| Hartzi | the_mgt: looks nice. I soppose they're all ex-nokians :P | 14:02 |
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| r0kk3rz | yotaphone for iphone | 14:17 |
| r0kk3rz | i think kimmoli investigated an e-ink toh, or maybe it was dirkvl | 14:17 |
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| Sebban | If I (or Google Translate) understand correctly it looks like they "repaired" my new/unused bootlooping Jolla phone two hours after it arrived at their repair station. Now I just have to get it sent back to me again :) | 14:26 |
| Sebban | It says "Huoltotiedot: Software updated." so maybe they just had to reflash it. | 14:26 |
| Sebban | Hopefully they also try to boot it before they send it back ;) | 14:28 |
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| kimmoli | r0kk3rz: yeah. i have some suitable displays, but rejected the project. Driving them is pita. | 14:42 |
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| The_Wraith | Hi everyone. | 15:03 |
| The_Wraith | I have a specific problem. I want to run a script from /etc/rc.local. And it runs but then is killed the & at the end doesnt matter since it's still a child process for rc.local. (correct me if im wrong) | 15:04 |
| The_Wraith | On a typical linux installation there's a command: at ..which can be used to overcome that. | 15:05 |
| The_Wraith | I dont have it on my jolla though, what do? | 15:05 |
| r0kk3rz | The_Wraith: why arent you using systemd to do that? | 15:06 |
| The_Wraith | I thought i am, what else could be starting /etc/rc.local ? | 15:06 |
| The_Wraith | Oh, you think I should write a service? I never done that before, it seemed easier to just launch from rc.local. | 15:08 |
| r0kk3rz | The_Wraith: write a systemd unit file for your script | 15:08 |
| The_Wraith | Okay.. i'll be googling for a howto on that now. :D | 15:09 |
| r0kk3rz | http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/47695/how-to-write-startup-script-for-systemd | 15:09 |
| r0kk3rz | the WantedBy directive needs to be different for sfos though | 15:10 |
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| the_mgt | rc.local is for stuff you fire up once, like setting some environment variable, iirc. The_Wraith | 15:11 |
| r0kk3rz | the_mgt: id still use a oneshot systemd unit instead... | 15:11 |
| the_mgt | and "at" is more of a cron type of thing. running a script has always done by ... well init scripts | 15:12 |
| the_mgt | r0kk3rz: yes, totally. although I haven't yet fully welcomed our new systemd overlords | 15:12 |
| r0kk3rz | whether you like it or not, trying to subvert or work around systemd on a system seems pointless imo | 15:13 |
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| r0kk3rz | if you really dont like it, dont run systemd! | 15:13 |
| the_mgt | agreed | 15:13 |
| r0kk3rz | not that you get a choice on sfos | 15:13 |
| the_mgt | that is why I run openrc on my servers | 15:13 |
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| ruskie | jolla tablet is nice.... wish it would have been more than just this few... | 17:08 |
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| sledges | https://twitter.com/bolek1337/status/704725132825202688 | 18:32 |
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| the_mgt | sledges: OTA? as in official updates over the air? | 19:07 |
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| nh1402 | the_mgt: "official" | 19:17 |
| nh1402 | not through settings | 19:17 |
| nh1402 | via a series of commands in the terminal | 19:18 |
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| sledges | the_mgt: community OTA ;) O stands for over, not official, for now:) but better than nothing! | 19:31 |
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| r0kk3rz | much better than having to rebuild+reflash | 19:45 |
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| sledges | +backup+restore | 20:10 |
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| phlixi | official the air? | 20:12 |
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| sledges | could sfos boot on F2FS ? | 20:20 |
| dr_gogeta86 | why not | 20:22 |
| dr_gogeta86 | did you use some strange context on ext or btrfs ? | 20:22 |
| sledges | i'm thinking on other devices | 20:24 |
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| the_mgt | sledges: what is so magical about OTA then? are the sailfish/mer repos protected so that only genuine hardware can unlock them? | 21:30 |
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| sledges | the_mgt: simply the infra to merge mer+jolla repos for doing version --dup on non-jolla products wasn't ready | 21:33 |
| sledges | also hw adaptation of ported device itself needs to be able to handle OTAs, things like kernel flashing during updates | 21:34 |
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| the_mgt | ah | 21:35 |
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| Milo- | Hm, I can't modify a saved wlan connection? | 21:40 |
| Milo- | only option I'm getting is "forget network" | 21:40 |
| the_mgt | via cli in /var/lib/b/connman | 21:40 |
| the_mgt | wihtout b | 21:41 |
| Milo- | oh, ew | 21:42 |
| Milo- | guess I'll check the settings from n9 then | 21:43 |
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