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iekku | morning | 05:26 |
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virtuald | ning | 05:32 |
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dm8tbr | moaning | 05:48 |
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E-P | morning | 05:58 |
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Sage_ | Stskeeps: http://connman.net/blogs/patrik/2012/connman-079 | 06:49 |
Sage_ | that needs work from the UI vendors | 06:50 |
Sage_ | also it isn't shown in compile time as it is dbus api | 06:50 |
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niqt | morning | 07:27 |
Sage_ | morning niqt | 07:27 |
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niqt | yesterday I asked mailing list where I could find the kickstart file for the latest release of Mer, but I had no answer. Is an obvious/stupid question? | 07:31 |
Sage_ | niqt: the only change is the release URL I think | 07:35 |
Sage_ | so you can modify older .ks file to fit that quite easily | 07:37 |
niqt | ok. i wnat build 486 image ant try it on via (CLE266= | 07:37 |
Sage_ | http://pastie.org/3626450 o_0 | 07:41 |
Sage_ | what the heck happened now. i586, vm and pandaboard images built fine byt n900 and n950 images do not | 07:41 |
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e8johan | Stkeeps: repackaged the latest and greatest of xcb, but it did not do much to the framerate, at least not on my EMDG-based system | 08:10 |
e8johan | Stkeeps: it still sucks, even without mcompositor running, so I guess I have to do some more investigating | 08:11 |
kulve | I guess I can use mic to create directly ext4 image instead of .tar.bz2 rootfs? | 08:14 |
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Sage_ | kulve: yes | 08:17 |
Sage_ | kulve: use raw instead of fs in cmdline | 08:17 |
Sage_ | then the image contains partition layout as well | 08:17 |
Stskeeps | morn | 08:18 |
kulve | the "mic create help raw/fs/loop" info is a bit short.. | 08:18 |
* Stskeeps looks for his coffee cup | 08:18 | |
kulve | Sage_: thanks | 08:18 |
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Stskeeps | wow, i managed to sleep from a nemo bug triage | 08:21 |
Stskeeps | that's first time :P | 08:21 |
Sage_ | !"#%/"%&( | 08:23 |
MerBot | Sage_: Error: "#%/" is not a valid command. | 08:23 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20120315.1/builds/armv7hl/packages/noarch/ vs http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20120315.1/builds/armv7l/packages/noarch/ | 08:23 |
Sage_ | DUDE! | 08:23 |
Sage_ | there is a monday welcome for you :D | 08:23 |
Stskeeps | that's the same url? | 08:23 |
Sage_ | armv7hl vs armv7l | 08:24 |
Stskeeps | that's it, i'm going back to bed.. | 08:24 |
Stskeeps | :P | 08:24 |
Sage_ | Release gone bad etc. :) | 08:24 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: 0.3 works fine? | 08:24 |
Sage_ | yes it doesn't lack packages :) | 08:25 |
Sage_ | maybe rsync gone bad and something out of space? | 08:25 |
Stskeeps | yeah.. | 08:25 |
Stskeeps | if you noticed our convo yesterday we were wondering if monday had come one day early | 08:26 |
Stskeeps | at same time i managed to nuke my Core:armv7hl project on CI obs by accident | 08:26 |
Sage_ | LOL :D | 08:26 |
Stskeeps | the good news is that the resurrection procedures for Mer works | 08:26 |
Stskeeps | the bad news is that we seem to have -really- bizarre CI_CNT.B_CNT :) | 08:27 |
Stskeeps | like, even before release | 08:27 |
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Stskeeps | e8johan: ok, good to know about framerate | 08:30 |
Stskeeps | e8johan: i presume stuff like DRI/DRI2 is enabled on your EMGD and you're using qml2 or opengl widgets? | 08:31 |
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e8johan | Stskeeps: DRI and stuff are working and I'm using qml2 | 08:32 |
Stskeeps | alright | 08:32 |
Stskeeps | just going down the checklist | 08:32 |
e8johan | still, I'll dig into it more | 08:32 |
e8johan | I want to have a peek at our Arm platforms as well | 08:32 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: should be fixable when lbt wakes up | 08:32 |
e8johan | will see what I can come up with | 08:33 |
kulve | any idea what's this about: Error <creator>: Command 'extlinux' is not available. | 08:34 |
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Aard | kulve: install syslinux-extlinux | 08:35 |
kulve | Aard: yeah, just trying that as I found something from the irc logs.. Thanks | 08:36 |
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Sage_ | Stskeeps: :nod: | 08:45 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: 0.3 is practically == 1 anyway | 08:47 |
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Sage_ | Stskeeps: yes but well don't want to use that URL in images and don't want to hack it in just because of couple of hours of waiting | 08:48 |
Stskeeps | yeah | 08:48 |
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Sage_ | Stskeeps: sent couple of package updates today that I couldn't submit during the weekend | 09:16 |
Sage_ | for some reason my osc connection doesn't work from my laptop anywhere else than at home :P | 09:17 |
Stskeeps | ok | 09:17 |
Stskeeps | they might get bad test results because of Core:armv7hl | 09:18 |
Stskeeps | just so you know | 09:18 |
Sage_ | well at least libexif passed on armv7hl | 09:21 |
Sage_ | but thanks for reminder | 09:21 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: seems like .1 isn't complete | 09:39 |
lbt | :( | 09:39 |
Stskeeps | noarch in armv7hl is foobar | 09:40 |
lbt | what's missing? is the release/ area bad? | 09:40 |
mdfe_ | Sage_: good morning, I get this error by using the @Intel x86 Generic Support package group. http://pastebin.com/dcASnSR0 | 09:40 |
Stskeeps | lbt: [09:23] <Sage_> Stskeeps: http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20120315.1/builds/armv7hl/packages/noarch/ vs http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20120315.1/builds/armv7l/packages/noarch/ | 09:41 |
mdfe_ | I did not define any llvmpipe packages inside my ks file | 09:41 |
lbt | Stskeeps: just doing that now | 09:42 |
mdfe_ | Stskeeps: Any idea how to build a image with mesa-x86-generic packages? | 09:47 |
lbt | Stskeeps: it's in obs-repos | 09:48 |
Stskeeps | lbt: as in, noarch packages are fine in obs-repos | 09:48 |
Stskeeps | ? | 09:48 |
lbt | well, they're not noarch in there | 09:48 |
lbt | -rw-r--r-- 1 prjfetcher users 1120613 Dec 16 04:06 autoconf.rpm | 09:48 |
Stskeeps | that's because there's no arch description in filenames in obs-repos | 09:48 |
Stskeeps | :P | 09:48 |
lbt | yeah, exactly | 09:48 |
lbt | but it is there | 09:49 |
lbt | so should have synced | 09:49 |
Stskeeps | well, something is foobar :P | 09:49 |
Stskeeps | can we just copy 0.3 to .1 in releases/ and call it a day? | 09:49 |
lbt | *nod* - I'm trying to see what | 09:49 |
lbt | OK - but it may happen again | 09:49 |
Stskeeps | yes | 09:49 |
lbt | is this the only problem? | 09:50 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: are OBS repos ok? | 09:51 |
Stskeeps | lbt: also, rename .1 to .1-broken or something | 09:51 |
lbt | making space | 09:55 |
mdfe_ | lbt: could you take a look on http://repo.pub.meego.com/CE:/Adaptation:/x86-generic/Mer_Core_i586/repodata/ ? | 09:59 |
mdfe_ | lbt: teher are two patterns.xml.gz files | 10:00 |
lbt | hmm | 10:00 |
Stskeeps | mdfe_: i think only one is referred to in the .xml for the repo i would hope | 10:00 |
lbt | looks like some kind of delete failed | 10:01 |
mdfe_ | Stskeeps: thynks, yes the newer one is referred | 10:02 |
lbt | mdfe_: in that case I assume non-urgent so could you log a bug - I'll look at the file owner/perms at some point | 10:03 |
mdfe_ | Sage_: The "@Intel x86 Generic Support" package group needs the additional package "mesa-x86-generic" | 10:07 |
sledges_wkend | good morning | 10:13 |
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Stskeeps | morn sledges | 10:14 |
sledges | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kbQU6n8Zkw :) | 10:14 |
sledges | end-of-proof-of-concept | 10:14 |
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Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:17 |
* sledges is after Lipstick QML, where could it be found? | 10:20 | |
lbt | Stskeeps: http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20120315.1-new/ | 10:20 |
Stskeeps | lbt: looks sane | 10:20 |
Stskeeps | i said .1 -> -old though :P | 10:20 |
lbt | step by step :) | 10:21 |
lbt | don | 10:21 |
Stskeeps | k | 10:21 |
Stskeeps | sledges: CE:UX:lipstick or Lipstick | 10:21 |
lbt | Stskeeps: I cannot see where the script went wrong | 10:22 |
lbt | unless it's in makerepo | 10:22 |
sledges | Stskeeps, found it in *.pub.meego.com . a sample .ks would be handy.. will try to browse w00t around | 10:23 |
Sage_ | mdfe_: hmmp | 10:23 |
Sage_ | mdfe_: I didn't have any problems with that | 10:24 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: it seems so. | 10:24 |
Sage_ | mdfe_: can I see your .ks file | 10:25 |
Sage_ | mdfe_: only the one that is referred in repomd.xmlis used from the patterns.xml.gz | 10:26 |
mdfe_ | http://share.basyskom.com/contour/Deployment/mer_x86_usb_live_and_install_archive/2012-03-19-11-04-basyskom-plasma-active-devel-mer-usb-live.ks | 10:27 |
mdfe_ | I had to add the "mesa-x86-generic" package to get it building again | 10:28 |
Sage_ | mdfe_: drop #mesa-dri-swrast-driver | 10:29 |
Sage_ | yes it is commentd but it might cause problems if the parsing isn't ok | 10:30 |
Sage_ | mdfe_: also you shouldn't call repos mer-shared and mer-plasma-shared but nemo-mw-shared and nemo-mw-plasmaactive for example | 10:31 |
mdfe_ | but there isn't any mesa-dri-swrast-driver package anymore | 10:31 |
Sage_ | mdfe_: yes I mean drop the line in comments just in case | 10:31 |
mdfe_ | ? | 10:32 |
Sage_ | mdfe_: http://share.basyskom.com/contour/Deployment/mer_x86_usb_live_and_install_archive/2012-03-19-11-04-basyskom-plasma-active-devel-mer-usb-live.ks <- This has line #mesa-dri-swrast-driver. It is commented but I have seen problems with commented lines before so I would say drop that and try agains without the mesa-x86-generic | 10:33 |
mdfe_ | I will try | 10:33 |
Sage_ | mdfe_: also alsa-utils is now in mer core not in ce_tools | 10:34 |
mdfe_ | fine | 10:34 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: should mer minimal xorg bring dbus-x11 package? | 10:35 |
Stskeeps | yes, it kinda should | 10:36 |
* sledges got lost between https://build.pub.meego.com/project/subprojects?project=CE | 10:36 | |
Stskeeps | sledges: http://repo.pub.meego.com/CE:/UX:/lipstick/Mer_Core_CE-MW-Shared_CE-MW-MTF_armv7l/ additional repo, 'lipstick' in %packages, and remove meegotouch-home from %packages | 10:37 |
sledges | what are MFT, XBMC, lipstick and their interrelationships | 10:37 |
sledges | 8) | 10:38 |
Stskeeps | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/OBS | 10:38 |
timoph | meegotouch fremework, xbox media center and a UI written with Qt | 10:38 |
mdfe_ | Sage_: no, without "mesa-x86-generic" the image build will break | 10:39 |
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sledges | thank you timoph, Stskeeps | 10:39 |
sledges | a | 10:39 |
sledges | wesom: http://sage.kapsi.fi/Mer/misc/Nemomobile-OBS-project-structure-draft.png | 10:39 |
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Sage_ | mdfe_: a sec | 10:40 |
Sage_ | mdfe_: I'll try to build it my own | 10:40 |
mdfe_ | -pkgmgr=yum | 10:40 |
Stskeeps | can we just make pkgmgr standard yum for the while being in mer? | 10:41 |
mdfe_ | Sage_: here my build log with "mesa-x86-generic" http://share.basyskom.com/contour/Deployment/mer_x86_usb_live_and_install_archive/2012-03-19-11-04-basyskom-plasma-active-devel-mer-usb-live.log | 10:41 |
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lbt | Stskeeps: yes | 10:42 |
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lbt | Stskeeps: some sb2 issues here: http://pastie.org/3627241 these use a modified obs-rpm-install that knows about /usr/bin/zypper and accelerates it | 10:43 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: yeah.. rpm --eval '%{_arch}' | 10:43 |
lbt | "arm" | 10:44 |
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lbt | same using both -m simple and obs-rpm-install | 10:45 |
Stskeeps | hmm | 10:45 |
lbt | reload pastie | 10:46 |
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sledges | Stskeeps, "...'lipstick' in %packages, and remove meegotouch-home from %packages" - are you referring to modifying an existing Nemo .ks ? | 10:47 |
Stskeeps | sledges: for example, but remove all @Nemo package groups | 10:48 |
sledges | ok | 10:48 |
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Sage_ | mdfe_: added that mesa-x86-generic to the x86 group. Should be fixed now | 10:51 |
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lbt | coffeee then sb2 debug logs .... | 10:56 |
Stskeeps | lbt: i'd prefer if we concentrate on obs-rpm-install and obs-rpm-build , though that may require you to do stuff in /home | 10:57 |
Stskeeps | that is a better reference point for me | 10:57 |
lbt | oh yes, I am doing | 11:03 |
lbt | the simple was to show that it's a mode problem | 11:03 |
lbt | I've added mappings for my non-/home things and they're fine so I'm pretty sure you can pretend that /everything is /home :) | 11:04 |
Stskeeps | ok | 11:05 |
lbt | I was actually going to create sdk-build and sdk-install - that way I don't need a core-release to update sdk modes | 11:05 |
lbt | clearly they should sync back eventually | 11:05 |
lbt | well s/was going to create/have created/ :) | 11:06 |
lbt | just not deployed/pushed yet | 11:06 |
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Stskeeps | REMINDER: bug triage in #mer-meeting in 48 minutes | 11:12 |
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Stskeeps | e8johan: silly question, how do you measure fps? | 11:20 |
e8johan | I use swaplogger (just packaged it this morning) | 11:21 |
Stskeeps | alright, is what i would have advised too | 11:21 |
e8johan | https://gitorious.org/~e8johan/swaplogger/e8johans-swaplogger | 11:21 |
e8johan | there is a spec there if you want to merge it into mer :-) | 11:21 |
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Stskeeps | we'll probably be packaging a bunch of tools from harmattan/meego to mer toosl as well | 11:21 |
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Stskeeps | if anything can be said about meego .. it certainly open source a large bunch of professional linux mobile tools | 11:24 |
Stskeeps | sourced, that is | 11:24 |
e8johan | mmm | 11:24 |
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sledges | lipstick works! but is very slow, need to wait ~5-10seconds after clicking on "phone" or "people" (running from SATA HDD plugged directly through serial link to freescale imx53) | 11:26 |
Stskeeps | sledges: that's probably unrelated | 11:27 |
sledges | yes, just emphasising that medium is not slow | 11:27 |
Stskeeps | try something like qmlcomponentsgallery instead | 11:27 |
sledges | hmm, can't get out from "people" anymore :) mouse cursor invisible, touchscreen not yet working, any keyboard shortcuts aroudn? :) | 11:30 |
Stskeeps | kill from terminal? | 11:30 |
Stskeeps | :P | 11:30 |
sledges | lol | 11:30 |
sledges | doing it then | 11:30 |
Stskeeps | if you don't have meegotouch-compositor-gestures installed | 11:31 |
sledges | most probably not, this wasn't explicitly specified in the .ks ;) | 11:33 |
* sledges already likes lipstick bigtime, lightweight N9 UX on any embedded system, what can be better!? :) | 11:33 | |
sledges | N9ish | 11:33 |
Stskeeps | out of morbid curiousity, what do you see on your screen? | 11:34 |
sledges | main menu, 9 icons, vodafone UK 00:00 pm :) | 11:34 |
Stskeeps | ok | 11:36 |
Stskeeps | that's all qml btw | 11:36 |
sledges | what should I infer from that it's all qml ? | 11:38 |
Stskeeps | sledges: well, that you can customize that homescreen to your heart's extent with ease | 11:39 |
Stskeeps | you could even make it a hello kitty skin | 11:39 |
sledges | yes, along with the underlying apps base - ideal case for a lightweight GSM/UMTS-enabled industrial gadget | 11:40 |
sledges | (divergence of ideas here :))) | 11:40 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 11:40 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: http://review.merproject.org/475 | 11:41 |
sledges | Stskeeps, so if we ship a board support package with our modified lipstick for such a gadget to a industrial customer, what licensing ensues? | 11:41 |
Stskeeps | w00t: wasn't lipstick bsd? | 11:41 |
sledges | s/ship/sell/g | 11:41 |
sledges | ohh | 11:42 |
Stskeeps | sledges: well, typical GPL applies (ie, what's in mer) but that's fairly easy to comply with | 11:42 |
timoph | Stskeeps: seems to be lgpl 2.1 | 11:42 |
Stskeeps | yeah, lgpl 2.1 | 11:43 |
sledges | lesser GPL.. I'm not into licensing at all, but if you understand it, just tell me if any additional charges imply apart from keeping the source open (hence the customer would need to open source their gadget's stuff as well?) | 11:43 |
Stskeeps | so you can do commercial homescreens with it, i think | 11:44 |
* sledges would really like to understand this legislative model | 11:44 | |
Stskeeps | w00t: am i interpreting that right | 11:44 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: k | 11:44 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: yes, the quilt stuff looks insane.. | 11:44 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: but i want to be as close to linaro's eglibc as possible | 11:44 |
Stskeeps | less support issues | 11:44 |
Stskeeps | :P | 11:44 |
Stskeeps | sledges: so, there is no royalties involved in Mer, you may need to comply with license stuff on mer core itself and provide source for those components | 11:45 |
Stskeeps | sledges: you'd have to publish source of lipstick but of the homescreen itself, no, not afaik | 11:45 |
Stskeeps | i'm not a lawyer, but just stating the general principles | 11:46 |
timoph | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Lesser_General_Public_License | 11:46 |
timoph | that has a pretty good explanation | 11:46 |
sledges | and what should our customers do? as this is a B2B stuff | 11:46 |
timoph | lgpl allows linking to closed stuff for example | 11:47 |
timoph | but if you modily and ship the lgpl'd stuff itself you need to share the changed | 11:48 |
Bostik | aye, modifications to the *library itself* need to be published; stuff created to use library are whatever the author wants | 11:48 |
timoph | at least that's how I understand it | 11:48 |
Stskeeps | sledges: if they sell the product they may get GPL compliance requests, you can make this easy for them by providing things on a dvd | 11:48 |
Stskeeps | sledges: we have a mer task bug on how to make this easier | 11:48 |
sledges | understood | 11:48 |
Stskeeps | and ideally tools to identify 'illegal' dependencies as well | 11:50 |
sledges | ? | 11:50 |
Stskeeps | sledges: there's some cases were there can be dependancies between two packages that can't legally link together | 11:51 |
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sledges | e.g.? | 11:52 |
Stskeeps | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing:Main#GPL_Compatibility_Matrix | 11:53 |
Stskeeps | we have tools that can make graphs like http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/essentialscollapsed.svg (beware, big svg) | 11:53 |
Stskeeps | and analyze those | 11:54 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: nuts :) | 11:54 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: much cleaner than before i started grouping :P | 11:55 |
Stskeeps | http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/noessentials.svg | 11:55 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: is .1 OK now? | 11:55 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: i meant the eglibc :) | 11:57 |
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Stskeeps | Sage_: oh, yeah | 11:57 |
lbt | Stskeeps: bug triage :) | 12:02 |
Stskeeps | oh right | 12:02 |
* lbt notices his N900 time is off ... | 12:02 | |
lbt | and why does sb2 debugging stop at an EXEC | 12:03 |
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lbt | so Stskeeps ... can we beat SDK/sb2 into submission by c.o.p today (after pizza) | 12:57 |
Stskeeps | possibly, though i'm not through my e-mail pile yet | 12:57 |
lbt | :/ OK | 12:58 |
lbt | Sage_: we really need a RESOLVED PENDING_ACCEPT or maybe RESOLVED->ACCEPTED | 13:00 |
lbt | but anyway | 13:00 |
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Sage_ | lbt: yes | 13:03 |
Sage_ | and BOSS to do that automatically :) | 13:03 |
Stskeeps | lbt: so, golden rule, -R -m obs-rpm-install for rpm and zypper | 13:07 |
Stskeeps | -build for everythign else | 13:07 |
lbt | Stskeeps: yep - totally get that | 13:09 |
Stskeeps | ok | 13:09 |
Stskeeps | where does it break in that scenario? | 13:09 |
lbt | http://pastie.org/3627241 | 13:09 |
lbt | I suspect rpm | 13:09 |
lbt | damn pastie has no line# | 13:10 |
Stskeeps | ok, two things.. echo -n 'armv7l-meego-linux' > /etc/rpm/platform , echo -n 'arch = armv7hl' > /etc/zypp/zypp.conf | 13:11 |
Stskeeps | inside the target | 13:11 |
Stskeeps | what does zypper do then? | 13:11 |
lbt | shoulda checked before echo | 13:13 |
lbt | but no change | 13:13 |
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lbt | shoulda checked +file contents+ before echo | 13:13 |
Stskeeps | try zypper ref | 13:13 |
lbt | no change | 13:14 |
Stskeeps | interesting | 13:14 |
lbt | zypper ref --force complains from sb2 | 13:14 |
lbt | (ERROR) zypper[20210/-148039968] fwd_map_path: ResultCheck: DIFFERENT result path: C='/bin/sh', Lua='/parentroot/srv/mer/targets/mer-core-armv7l-xorg-basic-qmlviewer-0.20120315.0.0.2/bin/bash' | 13:14 |
lbt | which seems reasonable | 13:14 |
lbt | sb2 -m obs-rpm-install -R zypper in glibc | 13:15 |
lbt | gives the same but with this line | 13:15 |
lbt | Package 'glibc' is not available in your repositories. Cannot reinstall, upgrade, or downgrade. | 13:15 |
lbt | which just confirms that it doesn't see anything in the repo cache | 13:16 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: eglibc review done. NOTE: Just read lines that were in the gerrit diff not the whole thing. :) | 13:16 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: right now just running SBC/DBC on it to see if there's any fallout | 13:18 |
Stskeeps | but yeah | 13:18 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: i need to setup a local setup to verify those which won't be right now.. | 13:21 |
lbt | *nod* | 13:21 |
lbt | I'm going to see what sb2 does in -d mode running sudo rpm --rebuilddb | 13:22 |
lbt | zypper does the db rebuild atm | 13:22 |
lbt | gah - cleaned out the sb2 logs ... and yeah, when I do sb2 -d -m simple sudo rpm --rebuilddb .... sb2 logging stops at the EXEC | 13:24 |
Stskeeps | -L info might be better | 13:24 |
Stskeeps | and -L info -q | 13:24 |
lbt | same problem | 13:25 |
Stskeeps | does it stall? | 13:25 |
lbt | no, it runs fine | 13:25 |
Stskeeps | ok | 13:25 |
Stskeeps | also, err, you need a -R in there | 13:26 |
Stskeeps | .. | 13:26 |
Stskeeps | wait | 13:26 |
Stskeeps | you're doing sudo inside sb2? | 13:26 |
Stskeeps | :P | 13:26 |
lbt | in simple more | 13:26 |
lbt | just to see how it works ... since it does | 13:26 |
Stskeeps | well that's probably why | 13:26 |
lbt | then do it in obs-rpm-install mode to compare | 13:26 |
Stskeeps | use -R instead, not sudo | 13:27 |
Stskeeps | :P | 13:27 |
lbt | -R isn't setup in simple mode | 13:27 |
lbt | error: can't create transaction lock on /var/lib/rpm/.rpm.lock (Permission denied) | 13:27 |
Stskeeps | okay, can you remove all sb2 targets, start from scratch with a image and not use simple/accel at all? | 13:33 |
Stskeeps | that makes it easier for me to replicate | 13:33 |
lbt | yes - and I'll share my mode files too | 13:36 |
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harbaum | Some sentences here sound odd without context. I e.g. just read Stskeeps' last one ... | 13:50 |
lbt | does it help to know his wife is away for 3 weeks? | 13:51 |
harbaum | :-) | 13:52 |
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Stskeeps | one email down, 6 to go.. | 14:11 |
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Aard | is it possible to tell mic to take package x from repo y, if there's the same package in repos y and z? | 14:50 |
Stskeeps | --excludepkgs is always nice | 14:51 |
Aard | ah, the opposite way | 14:51 |
Aard | 'Warning: Caution, do NOT interrupt the installation, else mic cannot finish the cleanup.' -- can somebody tell the mic-guys that signal handlers exist? | 14:57 |
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smoku | Aard: I'm sure they will accept a patch | 15:23 |
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* lbt notes that the __db* files are not actually part of the db... they are files which hold lock state information and can be safely deleted in single user mode | 17:27 | |
lbt | so --rebuilddb is actually working fine | 17:27 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: can't you activate zypper debugging? | 17:36 |
lbt | it writes to var/log/zypper.log and I'm going through that now | 17:37 |
Stskeeps | ok | 17:37 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20120315.1/kickstarts/mer-core-armv6l-base.ks contains @BUILD_ID@ | 17:45 |
lbt | yes | 17:46 |
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Stskeeps | would it be possible to s/@BUILD_ID@/0.20120315.1/g ? | 17:46 |
lbt | I thought about it - would that really be a good idea? | 17:47 |
lbt | this way I can build a 'latest' | 17:47 |
lbt | or a fixed release image | 17:47 |
lbt | bearing in mind "--save" puts these values into repos.d | 17:48 |
Stskeeps | my reasoning for @BUILD_ID@ being set to 0.2012031.1 is that we are sure the .ks'es will always work instead of having broken .ks'es all over the place | 17:48 |
Stskeeps | lesson learnt from meego | 17:48 |
lbt | it may be worth pointing out in the README that the user will need --release XXX | 17:48 |
Stskeeps | the .ks is a snapshot of the kickstarter output from a certain release anyway | 17:49 |
lbt | mmm | 17:49 |
lbt | any image created that way will not be zypper up'able | 17:49 |
lbt | and we like zypper up'ability | 17:49 |
lbt | so this was my reasoning | 17:50 |
lbt | I will say that it should have the 0.20120315.1 in the file somewhere | 17:51 |
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lbt | append "# This kickstart created as part of the 0.20120315.1 release" to all the .ks files? | 17:52 |
lbt | that way they're branded | 17:52 |
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Stskeeps | how about for this release we @BUILD_ID@ -> 0.20120315.1 and set a task bug for discussing how exactly the kickstarter config -> kickstarter -> ks chain is supposed to work? i feel we need to think deeper about this | 17:53 |
lbt | we do - did you see the README | 17:54 |
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Stskeeps | okay, let me say this a bit clearer.. how it's supposed to work when you look at it from vendor perspective, hardware adaptations, merging, etc | 17:55 |
lbt | sed -i -e's/@BUILD_ID@/0.20120315.1/' *ks | 17:55 |
Stskeeps | build_id is a bit awkward in that aspect | 17:55 |
Stskeeps | don't you need a 'g' on that? | 17:56 |
lbt | not unless you have multiple @BUILD_ID@ per line | 17:56 |
Stskeeps | also the mind-bending thing.. what component is @BUILD_ID@ for? | 17:56 |
Stskeeps | :P | 17:56 |
Stskeeps | core, hw adaptation, ui .. | 17:57 |
lbt | yes, I do agree | 17:57 |
Stskeeps | so that's why i think we need to discuss this deeper | 17:57 |
lbt | I hit that in the SDK - i hardcode M:T:Testing in my .ks | 17:58 |
lbt | which is ugly | 17:58 |
lbt | updated README too | 17:58 |
Stskeeps | ok | 17:58 |
Stskeeps | so, interesting thing about the resurrection thing | 17:59 |
Stskeeps | CI_CNT.B_CNT > the old release's | 18:00 |
Stskeeps | so far | 18:00 |
Stskeeps | i wouldn't mind validating it but.. | 18:00 |
lbt | but... proper versioning would be better? ? | 18:00 |
Stskeeps | well, yes | 18:00 |
Stskeeps | but it amazes me it gets it right | 18:00 |
Stskeeps | i had expected to loose CI_CNT.B_CT | 18:01 |
Stskeeps | CNT | 18:01 |
Stskeeps | lbt: do you have time to do a not-rsynced release of core:armv7hl alone before i start integrating things into core again? | 18:02 |
Stskeeps | so we can make a proper analysis on post-nuclear-bomb-on-germany-resurrection-of-mer | 18:02 |
lbt | OK | 18:03 |
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lbt | a $TOOLS/dumpbuild "$API" "Core:armv7hl" Core:armv7hl:$RELEASE Core_armv7hl "i586 armv8el" | 18:04 |
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Stskeeps | i guess for the released part | 18:04 |
Stskeeps | ie, createrepo'ed stuff | 18:04 |
lbt | then set RELEASE=0.20120315.1-test and let it run the rest? | 18:05 |
Stskeeps | grab_build, not dumpbuild fwiw | 18:05 |
lbt | I thought you wanted a wget of the new build from obs | 18:06 |
Stskeeps | i just want to do a post-mortem of the releases.merproject.org/releases/* output | 18:06 |
Stskeeps | ie, check if built rpm packages are newer or older | 18:07 |
lbt | I understand that bit | 18:07 |
lbt | what I'm not sure is where the rpms to be compared reside at the moment | 18:07 |
Stskeeps | repo.ci.merproject.org naturally | 18:08 |
lbt | I thought they were still in obs | 18:08 |
Stskeeps | the core:armv7hl rebuild is done | 18:08 |
lbt | yep - so grab_build does not go external - it rsyncs from one dir to another | 18:08 |
Stskeeps | right, and createrepos again | 18:08 |
lbt | dumpbuild goes outside using wget to pull from obs | 18:08 |
Stskeeps | err.. | 18:08 |
Stskeeps | grab_build rsyncs from BE repos | 18:09 |
Stskeeps | ie, the published repos | 18:09 |
lbt | which line? | 18:09 |
Stskeeps | 75 | 18:09 |
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Stskeeps | tools/createrelease.sh 0.20120315.0.3 http://fe.in.merproject.org/public rsync://be.in.merproject.org/obsrepos | 18:10 |
Stskeeps | the last one is obsrepos on be | 18:10 |
lbt | ah ... | 18:10 |
lbt | I really want to rewrite that script :D | 18:10 |
Stskeeps | you'll get to, when we get a proper BOSS process going | 18:11 |
Stskeeps | :P | 18:11 |
lbt | OK - yes, I see now | 18:11 |
lbt | I wonder if that's why the release-fix failed | 18:12 |
lbt | anyhow | 18:12 |
lbt | I'm not going to use the script then - just try and follow it by hand | 18:13 |
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Stskeeps | ok | 18:13 |
lbt | right now it'd do weird things like update -next | 18:13 |
Stskeeps | fair enough | 18:14 |
Stskeeps | i think it's just a good time to document the experience, hence us doing this | 18:14 |
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lbt | prjfetcher@monster:/home/prjfetcher-mertools/release-tools/releases/0.20120315.1-dr | 18:30 |
Stskeeps | let's see.. | 18:30 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: http://releases.merproject.org/~prjfetcher/ver.txt | 19:00 |
Stskeeps | i'd say successful resurrection | 19:01 |
Stskeeps | our CI_CNT, B_CNT is still bizarre but.. | 19:01 |
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lbt | yep - that's about what I saw | 19:13 |
lbt | still no idea about the zypper problem :) | 19:14 |
Stskeeps | didn't i make it work once? :P | 19:15 |
* Stskeeps checks logs | 19:15 | |
lbt | I thought I had too | 19:15 |
Stskeeps | http://pastie.org/3436021 | 19:17 |
lbt | OK | 19:18 |
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lbt | it was an interaction caused by adding /everything.... I guessed that "dummy_file" wasn't important given : set_path = session_dir.."/dummy_file" | 19:53 |
lbt | occurs several times | 19:53 |
Stskeeps | okay | 19:55 |
lbt | also... accelerated_program_actions | 19:56 |
lbt | it says protection = readonly_fs_always | 19:56 |
lbt | which doesn't make sense | 19:56 |
Stskeeps | what mode are we talking about | 19:56 |
lbt | install | 19:56 |
Stskeeps | protection=readonly_fs_always .. where? | 19:57 |
lbt | fs_rules.lua in accelerated_program_actions | 19:57 |
lbt | hmm, or is that only for *exec* function calls | 19:59 |
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lbt | how come I hit all the roadblocks | 20:17 |
Stskeeps | lbt: i'm more scared that it's starting to be consistent what roadblocks people are hitting | 20:17 |
lbt | error: /var/cache/zypp/packages/mer-core/armv7hl/info-4.13a-1.6.armv7hl.rpm: Header SHA1 digest: BAD | 20:17 |
Stskeeps | lbt: oh that one is fun | 20:17 |
Stskeeps | try to cd into the target before running sb2 | 20:17 |
lbt | in the SDK I was cd'ed to the /srv/mer/targets/blah/ root of the target | 20:19 |
lbt | ie : MerSDK david:/parentroot/srv/mer/targets/mer-core-armv7l-xorg-basic-qmlviewer-0.20120315.0.0.2/root > sb2 -t mer-core -m obs-rpm-install -R zypper in glibc-devel | 20:20 |
Stskeeps | interesting | 20:20 |
Stskeeps | and it says BAD? | 20:20 |
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lbt | yes | 20:21 |
Stskeeps | try to cd / | 20:21 |
Stskeeps | and do the same | 20:21 |
lbt | same | 20:21 |
Stskeeps | hmm | 20:21 |
lbt | http://pastie.org/3630384 | 20:21 |
Stskeeps | in mer-core-blahblah/ ? | 20:21 |
Stskeeps | try in that location | 20:22 |
lbt | refresh | 20:22 |
Stskeeps | interesting | 20:23 |
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lbt | I had many: error: rpmdbNextIterator: skipping h# 2 Header SHA1 digest: BAD | 20:23 |
Stskeeps | get me SB2 debugging logs for that? | 20:23 |
lbt | until I did rpm --rebuilddb | 20:23 |
Stskeeps | it's NSS going crazy, fwiw | 20:23 |
lbt | OK - yes, that's good to know | 20:24 |
lbt | and on my side I probably ran some emulated rpm/zypper commands on the same target from a different sdk | 20:24 |
lbt | ie using the old fs_rules.lua | 20:24 |
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Stskeeps | clean out your $HOME/.sb2 configs at times | 20:25 |
lbt | hmm don't have any | 20:25 |
Stskeeps | or whatever it's called | 20:26 |
lbt | ah, you mean the target definitions in ~/.scratchbox2/ | 20:26 |
Stskeeps | right | 20:27 |
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lbt | so I have an sb2_log ... | 20:28 |
lbt | scp to monter:/tmp/ | 20:28 |
lbt | lbt@phost3.in.merproject.org:/tmp/zypper-sb2-lbt.log | 20:29 |
lbt | that's -d | 20:29 |
lbt | say if you'd prefer -L | 20:30 |
Stskeeps | can i ask you to file a bug with that so we can return to it? 21:30 is beyond my mental ability to read sb2 logs | 20:31 |
lbt | sure | 20:31 |
lbt | FWIW ... my host has ldap and nscd and nslcd | 20:33 |
Stskeeps | right | 20:33 |
Stskeeps | i'm talking about netscape security services(?) | 20:34 |
Stskeeps | not nssswitch | 20:34 |
lbt | err.... obviously :) | 20:34 |
lbt | I'd seen rather a lot of sb2:LocatingNsswitchConf log entries so... | 20:35 |
Stskeeps | yeah | 20:35 |
Stskeeps | i'm not sure if i should be happy or worried that all the icu patches we carry seem not to have been merged into upstream, but still apply fine, two major versions after | 20:37 |
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* lbt wonders if each patch should have a bug and a link to an upstream submission | 20:39 | |
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lbt | like wtf happened with that submission | 20:39 |
lbt | or maybe a discrete patchzilla | 20:39 |
lbt | ( since bz has process hardcoded into states ) | 20:40 |
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lbt | all the sb2 log entries around /lib/libnss3.so seem fine | 20:45 |
Stskeeps | you normally first run the stuff later | 20:46 |
Stskeeps | look for anything revolving around .chk | 20:47 |
lbt | chk not mentioned in the log | 20:48 |
Stskeeps | hmm | 20:49 |
lbt | and just FYI I'm not expecting a response.... just kinda working out loud :) | 20:49 |
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lbt | hmm | 20:51 |
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lbt | there may be a little screwup on my side here | 20:51 |
lbt | sb2-init : david:/parentroot/srv/mer/targets/mer-core-armv7hl-xorg-basic-qmlviewer-latest | 20:52 |
lbt | sb2 : david:/parentroot/srv/mer/targets/mer-core-armv7l-xorg-basic-qmlviewer-latest | 20:52 |
lbt | yes | 20:53 |
Stskeeps | ok | 20:54 |
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lbt | so sb2 cares about cwd .... | 20:55 |
Stskeeps | i got the reasoning for this at some point | 20:55 |
Stskeeps | but i can't recall it right now | 20:55 |
Stskeeps | please log that as a bug though | 20:57 |
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lbt | which is not at all like replication | 20:59 |
Stskeeps | damnit, we could have used a second lbt | 21:00 |
lbt | we have a spare lpt | 21:01 |
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Stskeeps | hehe | 21:02 |
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lbt | *sigh* package info-4.13a-1.6.armv7hl is intended for a different architecture | 21:08 |
lbt | yes I've done etc/rpm/platform | 21:08 |
lbt | and zypp.conf | 21:08 |
lbt | I think I might take up knitting | 21:08 |
Stskeeps | what $CWD are you in? | 21:10 |
Stskeeps | er, PWD | 21:10 |
lbt | I'm doing an rm -rf * | 21:10 |
Stskeeps | ok | 21:10 |
Stskeeps | let's say that if this doesn't work properly after tonight you transfer that for me for fixing, there's better things to work on | 21:10 |
Stskeeps | as it obviously is having problems | 21:11 |
lbt | possibly - sometimes it just needs me to tidy up and start from a clean install that hsn't had rpm and zypper dbs butchered | 21:11 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 21:11 |
lbt | SDK is also hacked to have new fs_rules, was zyppered up from an old version ... | 21:12 |
lbt | I think that's OK thouhg | 21:12 |
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Crnkoj | hey guys i need some help, i managed to break something on my n9 and now its in a boot loop, whats the best way to rescue it without flashing (i woudl actually just have to chmod one file back), or to flash it | 21:15 |
Stskeeps | Crnkoj: we're not really a n9 support channel, might have more luck in #harmattan , but http://jon.severinsson.net/NemoN9/Nemo-Mobile-N9-instructions.txt up to step 5 might help you | 21:16 |
Stskeeps | this will void your warranty | 21:16 |
Crnkoj | Stskeeps thanks | 21:16 |
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lbt | Stskeeps: you said: echo -n 'armv7l-meego-linux' > etc/rpm/platform | 21:28 |
Stskeeps | right | 21:28 |
lbt | what is the meaning of armv7l? | 21:28 |
lbt | what should it match | 21:29 |
lbt | given echo 'arch = armv7hl' >> etc/zypp/zypp.conf | 21:29 |
Stskeeps | doesn't mean much, it basically tells rpm that the current platform is armv7l, not armv7hl, why? | 21:29 |
lbt | mainly it doesn't match the value for zypp.conf | 21:30 |
Stskeeps | err | 21:30 |
Stskeeps | are you doing this against an armv7l image or armv7hl | 21:30 |
lbt | I coulda copied it wrong too | 21:30 |
Stskeeps | if it's armv7hl it should be armv7hl | 21:30 |
lbt | [19/03/2012 13:11] <Stskeeps> ok, two things.. echo -n 'armv7l-meego-linux' > /etc/rpm/platform , echo -n 'arch = armv7hl' > /etc/zypp/zypp.conf | 21:31 |
lbt | cool - that'll be one issue then | 21:31 |
Stskeeps | probably, yes | 21:31 |
Stskeeps | my bad | 21:31 |
lbt | I think we get to share the bads about a bit | 21:31 |
lbt | somehow I think I'm leading :) | 21:31 |
Stskeeps | just be happy you didn't get the wtfs i did when i made the mer base originally | 21:32 |
Stskeeps | :P | 21:32 |
Stskeeps | that's going to cost a lot of therapy one day | 21:32 |
lbt | *g* | 21:32 |
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lbt | I don't *think* arch= in zypp.conf is needed | 21:35 |
lbt | ie .. it works without it | 21:36 |
lbt | zypper, not got to gcc yet | 21:36 |
Stskeeps | it won't for armv7hl, i think | 21:36 |
lbt | I'm doing armv7hl | 21:36 |
Stskeeps | ok | 21:36 |
lbt | so should I expect gcc to fail? | 21:37 |
Stskeeps | i'd hope not | 21:37 |
Stskeeps | glibc-devel should be there though | 21:37 |
lbt | I deliberately chose not armv7l since it would be a different arch to the one you used | 21:37 |
Stskeeps | ok | 21:39 |
lbt | I wiped it all again and this time zypper in works fine from ~/tmp/ | 21:44 |
lbt | do I need to install gcc to get libmpc.so.2 ? | 21:49 |
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lbt | debian has libgcc* iirc | 21:49 |
Stskeeps | install mpc mpfr | 21:50 |
Stskeeps | gmp as well | 21:50 |
Stskeeps | our cross compilers don't dep on those? | 21:50 |
lbt | tried them - not enough | 21:50 |
lbt | into the target | 21:50 |
Stskeeps | why is it talking about libmpc ? | 21:51 |
lbt | http://pastie.org/3630945 | 21:51 |
Stskeeps | /opt/cross/libexec/gcc/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi/4.6.3/cc1 | 21:51 |
Stskeeps | is naturally on SDK side | 21:51 |
lbt | I'd have noticed eventually | 21:52 |
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lbt | being tired is embarrasing | 21:52 |
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Stskeeps | well, you're just reacting rationally | 21:53 |
Stskeeps | naturally the error must come from target :) | 21:54 |
lbt | and frankly, ignoring the path is habit too - there's only usually one root - not 3 | 21:55 |
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Stskeeps | i really need to give some of the base packages a service check | 21:58 |
Stskeeps | i don't fully understand why we regressed from perl not triggering rebuilds to that it does now | 21:58 |
lbt | did it start failing buildcompare again ? | 21:59 |
Stskeeps | yeah | 22:01 |
lbt | so we should have /opt/cross/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi/lib/libmpc.so.2 ? | 22:02 |
Stskeeps | no | 22:03 |
Stskeeps | libmpc is from the sdk itself | 22:03 |
Stskeeps | it's weird it doesn't have proper requirements | 22:03 |
Stskeeps | that's a bug for sure | 22:03 |
lbt | my SDK doesn't actually have gcc or anything installed | 22:04 |
Stskeeps | yeah | 22:04 |
Stskeeps | and i would have thought installing the cross compiler would pull right deps | 22:04 |
Stskeeps | probably a bug in packaging from old cross approach | 22:04 |
lbt | *nod* | 22:04 |
lbt | at least I'm finding some real bugs ... | 22:05 |
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jbos | stskeeps ,you tried to get sgx woking with wayland? | 22:06 |
Stskeeps | jbos: right, though there's a much more serious effort going on by rob clark from TI | 22:07 |
Stskeeps | and i didn't try, i actually succeeded back then | 22:07 |
jbos | ok, he isn't hanging around here, isn't he? | 22:08 |
Stskeeps | no, he's not, but he's in #wayland | 22:08 |
Stskeeps | why are you asking? | 22:08 |
jbos | I wonder if it is possible the get working "raw" (non x) sgx 3d working on n9 | 22:09 |
Stskeeps | ah.. | 22:09 |
jbos | I get 2d working | 22:09 |
jbos | but not 'print3d' from examples | 22:10 |
Stskeeps | on n9 it's insane because of the manual update display | 22:10 |
jbos | ye | 22:10 |
lbt | hallelujah! | 22:11 |
jbos | but you should be able to turn it to automatic | 22:11 |
Stskeeps | jbos: nop, doesn't work | 22:11 |
Stskeeps | it did on n8x0, not on this one | 22:11 |
Stskeeps | and it looks crap with automatic anyway | 22:12 |
jbos | http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=blob_plain;f=Documentation/arm/OMAP/DSS;hb=HEAD | 22:12 |
jbos | so this does not work? | 22:12 |
Stskeeps | correct | 22:12 |
jbos | pss | 22:12 |
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jbos | I wonder if a while with do display-update... work | 22:14 |
jbos | there is this "manual" update script | 22:14 |
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Stskeeps | jbos: run everything fullscreen and kill compositor and you should be fairly ok | 22:15 |
Stskeeps | in x11 | 22:15 |
jbos | (me don't like x) | 22:16 |
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Stskeeps | i don't either, but on the n9 it's not a half bad idea | 22:16 |
Stskeeps | :P | 22:16 |
Stskeeps | robclark's stuff is omap4 only probably though | 22:17 |
jbos | well well :) guess you need to live with x on certain configurations... | 22:19 |
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Stskeeps | out of curiousity, is this gecko on top of qt, or? | 22:21 |
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jbos | it is | 22:30 |
jbos | still troubles me to get it compiling in mer sdk without honk | 22:31 |
jbos | some udev linker error | 22:31 |
Stskeeps | mm? | 22:31 |
jbos | -honk +qt | 22:31 |
jbos | :) | 22:31 |
jbos | undefined reference to `udev_new' ... and so on... | 22:32 |
jbos | which is odd since udev-devel is installed and in good version | 22:32 |
Stskeeps | well, i'd like to see the build log | 22:33 |
jbos | just creating a more sufficient one, it first failes with millions of /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-ld: BFD (GNU Binutils) 2.22 assertion fail elf32-arm.c:12049 | 22:34 |
Stskeeps | ah | 22:34 |
jbos | during linking... | 22:34 |
Stskeeps | that one is 'normal' | 22:34 |
Stskeeps | please file a bug on that assertion | 22:34 |
jbos | yeh? | 22:34 |
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jbos | so this dude is expected? | 22:35 |
Stskeeps | so we remember it's there | 22:35 |
Stskeeps | the assertion happens occasionally | 22:35 |
jbos | have seen this on oneiric cross compile | 22:36 |
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Stskeeps | yeah | 22:37 |
Stskeeps | we're trying to stick very close to linaro toolchain | 22:37 |
lbt | Stskeeps: any problems with making a couple of sdk modes and dropping them into /usr/share/scratchbox2/modes/ as part of sdk install | 22:41 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: shouldn't be | 22:42 |
lbt | 'k | 22:42 |
lbt | I have a new rabbithole file - it seems to be working - i can pop items and clean up as I come up for air :) | 22:43 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 22:48 |
Stskeeps | finally, eglibc 2.15 for x86 has bootstrapped.. 180 succeeded out of 322 so far | 22:48 |
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Stskeeps | nite | 23:06 |
lbt | g'night | 23:07 |
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