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vgrade | hey trip0 | 01:09 |
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berndhs_950 | Evening | 01:41 |
vgrade | berndhs_950, hi | 01:44 |
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Stskeeps | morn | 04:55 |
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niqt | morning all | 06:27 |
Stskeeps | morn niqt | 06:28 |
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Stskeeps | hello ericy_12key | 06:29 |
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TomaszD | Stskeeps: any love for ready to go Nemo builds at http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/ ? | 07:14 |
TomaszD | I see there's been a new release out, but no new image since the middle of March | 07:14 |
TomaszD | :) | 07:14 |
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TomaszD | to be fair, I might be in the wrong channel | 07:15 |
Stskeeps | TomaszD: 03.19 is fairly recent | 07:19 |
Stskeeps | core's from 0315, release is 0319 | 07:20 |
TomaszD | there was a release yesterday right? | 07:20 |
TomaszD | Stskeeps: how's life/work anyway man, long time no see | 07:21 |
Stskeeps | life's good, work, well, on a small vacation atm | 07:21 |
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Sage_ | Stskeeps: http://qtl.merproject.org/808eb0be-7f3d-11e1-a5ce-00163e6e0038.html | 08:09 |
Sage_ | gnutls again | 08:09 |
Stskeeps | taking some papers to my accountant atm, back in an hour or so | 08:09 |
Stskeeps | i'm reviewing each of them today | 08:09 |
Sage_ | .... expat caused sensorfw to fail | 08:10 |
Stskeeps | intruiging | 08:11 |
Stskeeps | not imposible fwiw | 08:11 |
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Sage_ | well the fun part is that there is no expat-devel in sensorfw compile used. | 08:13 |
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Stskeeps | but maybe indirectly | 08:42 |
Stskeeps | timoph: how did eat go, btw? | 08:46 |
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lbt | morning all - when's the next SDK meeting? | 08:51 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: it seems so and also it is most probably qt that is causing that :( | 08:53 |
Stskeeps | brb food | 08:54 |
lbt | -> coffee | 08:56 |
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Stskeeps | ah, finally back at desk | 09:28 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: which ones would you like me to kick? | 09:32 |
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TomaszD | Stskeeps: any good contracting work or has the well dried up? | 09:39 |
Stskeeps | TomaszD: just temporarily without contracts, but not worried | 09:39 |
TomaszD | well, you probably have saved up for situations like this | 09:40 |
Stskeeps | yeah, so i get some nice free time to work on Mer and my beer belly | 09:40 |
TomaszD | anything good incoming? tizen? | 09:40 |
TomaszD | beer belly must be cultivated | 09:40 |
Stskeeps | tizen has their own problems, they don't have to deal with me too ;) | 09:41 |
TomaszD | ah | 09:42 |
TomaszD | still have my n900 as backup | 09:42 |
TomaszD | I've put cm9 on my year old motorola milestone 2 and it's like I bought a new one | 09:45 |
Stskeeps | i need to convert my sim to a microsim, then i'll probably be using my n9 | 09:47 |
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TomaszD | n9 is so much cheaper now | 09:58 |
TomaszD | it's the prices it should have started with | 09:59 |
Stskeeps | welcome to mobile world | 09:59 |
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TomaszD | no seriously, it lost so much value | 10:06 |
Stskeeps | well, yes, but things always start high | 10:08 |
Stskeeps | i found it impressive i can still buy n900 here | 10:08 |
TomaszD | people want to get rid of that brick | 10:14 |
TomaszD | :) | 10:14 |
TomaszD | I bought some screen polish, polished the n900's screen so it has no scratches and bought a high quality screen protector, very durable | 10:15 |
TomaszD | I also have a plastic two piece case put on it | 10:15 |
TomaszD | so it's like a tank | 10:15 |
TomaszD | shame the things I wanted to use it for fail constantly | 10:16 |
TomaszD | columbus crashes mercilessly | 10:18 |
TomaszD | cloudgps fails whenever there's patchy 3g reception from my 3g router and doesn't want to download tiles afer one breakup | 10:18 |
TomaszD | pyobd doesn't want to connect to my car's ecu | 10:19 |
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Bostik | aye, pricing always starts a tad above what bean-counters think the bling-bling hungry idiots are willing to pay | 10:33 |
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TomaszD | wouldn't call them idiots just because they have money to spare | 10:46 |
TomaszD | fired up my n900, still have some updated, even the community csu got one | 10:47 |
TomaszD | *updates | 10:47 |
odin_ | where are the cheap N9s for the UK then? I did not get one as too expensive for a grey import | 10:49 |
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TomaszD | you can buy a new one with 2 year warranty from a legal source for the equivalent of 238 GBP | 10:52 |
TomaszD | it used to be exactly twice that | 10:52 |
lbt | TomaszD: where? | 10:53 |
TomaszD | Poland | 10:53 |
lbt | I just sold my Lumia 800 on eBay for £250 :) | 10:54 |
TomaszD | cool | 10:54 |
lbt | so now I can get an N9 \o/ | 10:54 |
TomaszD | did you get one for free or did you actually buy the lumia lbt ? | 10:54 |
lbt | you have to ask if I'd buy a windows phone? | 10:55 |
TomaszD | ...right | 10:55 |
TomaszD | :) | 10:55 |
lbt | Nokia tried to 'influence' the linux dev community by sending free Lumia's to all those who'd gotten an N950 I think | 10:55 |
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* lbt remembers he's doing OBS .... | 10:56 | |
TomaszD | Stskeeps: hah, I also have one, wonderful hardware, although I have plastic ring around the screen completely broken in pieces near the speakers | 10:56 |
TomaszD | I need to use some glue before it all falls off | 10:57 |
TomaszD | latest cm9 nightlies and an overclocked kernel = great experience | 10:57 |
TomaszD | Stskeeps: although I'd love to see nemo there or meego or whathaveyou | 10:58 |
TomaszD | bottom line is, I can watch 720p mkv videos via DLNA without issues. This is a winning combo | 10:59 |
Stskeeps | my idea is to get fullscreen egl working on a mer install, just for fun | 11:00 |
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TomaszD | well don't tell anyone, might get their hopes up for a committed porting effort | 11:01 |
Stskeeps | of course | 11:03 |
Stskeeps | this is for myself to learn about qualcomm chipsts | 11:03 |
Stskeeps | :P | 11:03 |
TomaszD | of course ;) | 11:04 |
TomaszD | Stskeeps: how's your freerunner doing | 11:06 |
Stskeeps | i'm pondering to put it in the car | 11:09 |
Stskeeps | or experiment with featurephone stuff | 11:09 |
Stskeeps | let's see :) | 11:10 |
TomaszD | qtmoko is great for featurephone | 11:13 |
TomaszD | actually it's outstanding | 11:13 |
TomaszD | I would love to se qtmoko on better hardware | 11:14 |
TomaszD | shame the qtextended thing is dead | 11:14 |
TomaszD | still active, last release in feb | 11:15 |
TomaszD | I think the key to its success is not running on top of X, apart from many other nice UI features | 11:15 |
TomaszD | the keyboard itself is quite nifty, with gesture support and character recognition AFAIR | 11:16 |
TomaszD | swipe up for capital letters, swipe left to delete last character, things like that | 11:16 |
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CosmoHill | vgrade: are you watching the match? | 12:49 |
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vgrade | oh s***t I thought it was on later | 12:49 |
CosmoHill | starts in 11 mins | 12:49 |
CosmoHill | sky sports 1 | 12:50 |
vgrade | ok tuning in now | 12:50 |
CosmoHill | cool, I didn't want to say the score and ruin it for you | 12:50 |
CosmoHill | didn't know that if we won this game we'd be top | 12:50 |
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* CosmoHill is watching football atm | 13:05 | |
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CosmoHill | vgrade: on snap | 13:13 |
CosmoHill | oh* | 13:14 |
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vgrade | living up to the dirty leeds tag | 13:16 |
CosmoHill | have you ever seen to leeds? | 13:18 |
vgrade | been or seen | 13:21 |
CosmoHill | been | 13:21 |
vgrade | lived there until I was 18 | 13:21 |
CosmoHill | fair enough, I've never been to reading | 13:21 |
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vgrade | you should support your home town team | 13:22 |
vgrade | easy for me in the 70's | 13:22 |
CosmoHill | i think my home team are in the lowest table known to man | 13:22 |
CosmoHill | we offically became a city this year but we've always had it in the title | 13:23 |
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CosmoHill | wow, I've seen cleaner trams than this | 13:24 |
CosmoHill | tramps* | 13:24 |
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lbt | I hate proxies ... so many things to go wrong ... but essential when you're rebuilding VMs again and again on a slow link | 13:50 |
CosmoHill | especially* | 13:52 |
Stskeeps | lbt: couldn't you theoretically do a transparent proxy instead though? | 13:53 |
lbt | Stskeeps: ideally - but when you hit places like suse they have dynamic redirects for load balancing | 13:54 |
lbt | turns out apt-cacher-ng works... | 13:54 |
lbt | http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2011-10/msg00563.html | 13:55 |
Stskeeps | lbt: ah.. | 13:55 |
Stskeeps | lbt: thanks for release night, btw | 13:55 |
Stskeeps | er, last night | 13:55 |
lbt | np - looks like it went smoothly | 13:56 |
Stskeeps | we'll know when people come back from easters | 13:56 |
Stskeeps | :P | 13:56 |
lbt | *g* | 13:56 |
Stskeeps | oh, you forgot .ks'es though | 13:59 |
lbt | yep - not in the instructions :( | 13:59 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 13:59 |
lbt | I'll do that now | 14:00 |
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CosmoHill | ctrl + a, backspace | 14:03 |
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Cyfus | I cant find merinstaller.install at http://trac.tspre.org/ it seems to be down, does anyone have a mirror? | 14:05 |
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dm8tbr | Stskeeps: ^^ | 14:07 |
lbt | Cyfus: what are you reading to get that? | 14:08 |
Stskeeps | Cyfus: old Mer is dead, sorry - http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation/N8x0 is what is available these days | 14:08 |
Cyfus | I was reading http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Documentation/Installation#N8x0_Install | 14:09 |
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dm8tbr | something like a clock and a notification field that listens to a UDP port | 14:09 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: congrats, you broke the build :) | 14:16 |
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Cyfus | how active is mer? I have an n800, is it still getting attention? | 14:16 |
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Stskeeps | Cyfus: Mer's a core and quite active, but n800 efforts are low, but the general ARMv6 port is getting attention | 14:16 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: have choice for libnss3.so needed by rpm: nss nss-devel, have choice for libnss3.so needed by rpm-libs: nss nss-devel, have choice | 14:17 |
Stskeeps | for libnss3.so(NSS_3.10) needed by rpm-libs: nss nss-devel, have choice for libnss3.so(NSS_3.2) needed by rpm-libs: nss nss-devel, | 14:17 |
Stskeeps | have choice for libnss3.so(NSS_3.4) needed by rpm-libs: nss nss-devel, have choice for libnss3.so(NSS_3.11.2) needed by rpm-libs: | 14:17 |
Stskeeps | nss nss-devel, have choice for libfreebl3.so needed by glibc: nss-devel nss-softokn-freebl, have choice for | 14:17 |
Stskeeps | libfreebl3.so(NSSRAWHASH_3.12.3) needed by glibc: nss-devel nss-softokn-freebl, have choice for libnss3.so needed by rpm-build: | 14:17 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: take a look at %packages devel | 14:19 |
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Cyfus | what would you guys suggest as the best alternative for n800 2008? | 14:25 |
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Stskeeps | Cyfus: i'm not sure there's much else | 14:26 |
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CosmoHill | stop teasing them and score already >.< | 14:40 |
Stskeeps | time to open #mer-bar, perhaps | 14:41 |
Stskeeps | :P | 14:41 |
CosmoHill | maybe, there's argument at LFS about if there should be a chat channel or just use the main one | 14:41 |
Stskeeps | i'm okay with watercooler talk but it's important to be kept on topic, ie no continous ranting or constant off topic as people are in here to participate in Mer and see what goes on :P | 14:43 |
CosmoHill | #mer is bigger than #lfs-support and #meego is bigger than both (and full of zombies) | 14:44 |
Stskeeps | :nod: and bigger means more people are watching :) | 14:48 |
CosmoHill | had an odd situation where someone was asking support questions in the chat channel | 14:49 |
vgrade | Stskeeps, no problem I don't want to talk about the football anymore | 15:09 |
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vgrade | :( | 15:10 |
* CosmoHill pets vgrade | 15:10 | |
CosmoHill | pets / pats | 15:10 |
Stskeeps | vgrade: ah - no worries, i talk random stuff about my travels and such at times, that qualifies under watercooler :) | 15:11 |
Stskeeps | people are after all working together here as a virtual company of sorts | 15:11 |
vgrade | your call was a good one as my team lost to CosmoHill's team | 15:12 |
vgrade | as you can probably tell from the cackles :) | 15:12 |
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Stskeeps | hehe | 15:13 |
CosmoHill | could be worse, I could be a man u fan | 15:15 |
vgrade | CosmoHill, don't | 15:19 |
vgrade | goes back to compiling kernel modules | 15:20 |
Stskeeps | vgrade: it's weird it's not crashing though (mali + framebuffer location) | 15:20 |
Stskeeps | maybe we reach into the back buffer | 15:20 |
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CosmoHill | I thought I saw some spelling mistakes on this ebook but there there are numbers mid words | 15:50 |
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trip0 | hi vgrade | 17:30 |
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vgrade | hi trip0, saw your new packages on OBS | 18:28 |
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harbaum | i ordered a c71+ yesterday ... | 18:44 |
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CosmoHill | for a moment I thought you meant the standard of C from 1971 | 18:44 |
Stskeeps | harbaum: the 1gb one? | 18:45 |
harbaum | yes, the 1gb one | 18:45 |
Stskeeps | ok | 18:45 |
harbaum | the opentablet guys old me that this is enarer to their tab | 18:45 |
harbaum | and i need a host mode capable device to tinker with | 18:45 |
Stskeeps | i got a hp touchpad recently, interesting device | 18:46 |
Stskeeps | my first qualcomm | 18:46 |
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harbaum | i don't even know what's inside the c71 ... but i'll find out soon | 18:48 |
Stskeeps | probably amlogic still | 18:49 |
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harbaum | ah, yes amlogic3 was mentioned somewhere.but i didn't know it's the name of the cpu | 18:49 |
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vgrade | harbaum, you know we don't have kernel source for that | 18:55 |
vgrade | amlogic meson 3 chipset | 18:55 |
Stskeeps | did anyone try to boot a reference kernel on there yet? | 18:55 |
vgrade | you mean a kernel.org one | 18:56 |
Stskeeps | well, or amlogic one | 18:56 |
harbaum | vgrade: i didn't know that. but in the worst case i have spent €99 for a android 4 tablet. things could be worse | 18:57 |
vgrade | yes , I think one of the guys booted using the kyora kernel ( based on amlogic meson 1 ref) but things like touchscreen not working | 18:57 |
vgrade | I did post here and on #opentablets and opentablets forums that c71+ did nt have kernel yet | 18:58 |
harbaum | actually this opentablet guru claimed ypu had a working kernel :-) | 18:59 |
vgrade | did he, well he's wrong | 18:59 |
Stskeeps | and we can learn to not always trust gurus ;) | 18:59 |
harbaum | gah ... i was in the mood to shop gear .... | 19:00 |
vgrade | http://opentablets.org/topic/16-zenithink-c71-upgraded-to-1gb-ram/page__view__findpost__p__134 | 19:01 |
harbaum | what happens if one asks amlogic for the kernel source? | 19:02 |
vgrade | they point you to the amlogic wiki which has a tarballs of old kernels whcih don't have the recent drivers for C71 and don't include anything for the meson 3 boards ie 1GB C71+ | 19:04 |
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timoph | Stskeeps: the eat thing got buried under other things.. I'll try to do something to it as soon as I can | 19:40 |
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harbaum | vgrade: What's that? ftp://zenithink.cn:10021/pub/dyliao/zt-282/kernel/20120316/ | 19:46 |
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harbaum | the 282 are imho the "upgrades" c91+ and c71+ | 19:47 |
vgrade | yea, but only binary kernels | 19:47 |
vgrade | we need to recompile to remove andriod options and add options for mer eg systemd related ones | 19:48 |
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harbaum | vgrade: sure, 9mb sounded to big for a binary only package ... but you are right, there's only binary stuff inside | 19:49 |
vgrade | been there | 19:50 |
vgrade | 80MB for kernerl source usually | 19:51 |
vgrade | sorry you were fed duff info, I'll have a word with the-gibson | 19:51 |
harbaum | ah, no problem. | 19:54 |
harbaum | let's first see what i actually receive. It was pretty cheap for a c71+ and may still turn out to be the old model | 19:55 |
harbaum | the-gibson actually claimed that the old version may not be supported anymore, which in turn raised some eyebrows of c71 owners | 19:57 |
the-gibson | whats up? | 19:59 |
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Stskeeps | timoph: alright, have a good easters | 20:00 |
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the-gibson | harbaum: ahh yes, i was mistaken about the c71+ kernels, i saw the autoscript assumed it as a kernel but not so | 20:02 |
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harbaum | what about your statement that the vivaldi will be closer to the c71+ than to the c71? | 20:06 |
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the-gibson | harbaum: from what I understand that is true | 20:09 |
harbaum | But that doesn't make much sense given the fact that there's no kernel source. Or is someone building a mer kernel in cooperation with zenithink? | 20:10 |
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the-gibson | harbaum: i dont know on that point, last i checked into it I was told the " we're still working through some final | 20:18 |
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the-gibson | legal matters around the sources: | 20:18 |
the-gibson | so thats as much as i know about the source, though i sent an email off to zenithink asking about their status.. and havnt heard back yet | 20:19 |
wmarone_ | I think it's more that the chinese OEMs are trying to coerce a fee for the kernel sources above and beyond the purchase price of the hardware, despite having distributed the binary | 20:19 |
harbaum | the old cordia tab story again ... | 20:22 |
harbaum | i don't understand that business model. I can't believe anyone is buying their kernel source. I mean who besides us has a use for them? | 20:22 |
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harbaum | Whoever bought the kernel source may legally forward this. I'll lurk on some of those boards where they build/distribute customs android roms. Perhaps they have the source | 20:30 |
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the-gibson | could someone familliar with MIC give me a pointer on how to tell mic-image-creator where to find repositories? | 22:20 |
the-gibson | i keep getting "Error: No repositories found" | 22:20 |
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the-gibson | vgrade: could you point me in the right direction? | 22:29 |
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the-gibson | nevermind.. i wasnt in the SDK =/ | 22:47 |
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