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Stskeeps | morn | 04:31 |
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iekku | morning | 04:45 |
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Kiranos | Sage_: http://www.solid-run.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8 | 07:02 |
Kiranos | do you have update on this? | 07:02 |
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Kiranos | Stskeeps: ^ do you know about any progress on cubox from Sage? | 07:17 |
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Stskeeps | moo Kiranos | 07:26 |
Kiranos | was thinking about the cubox question above | 07:27 |
Kiranos | it looks like a great piece of hw and wondering if you have any further plan to support it? | 07:27 |
Stskeeps | i think it's also about what things they provide from they side | 07:28 |
Stskeeps | generally if no kernel is available and binary blobs, it isn't anything that's useful to buy | 07:28 |
Kiranos | they havent heard from sage so they are waiting | 07:28 |
Kiranos | kernel is available | 07:28 |
Kiranos | also dont know if you have the hardware available but they are willing to send one out to your guys at mer | 07:30 |
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Sage_ | Kiranos: well haven't worked on that sry. | 07:44 |
Sage_ | Kiranos: didn't get answers then and well forgot the whole thing. Also don't have the HW as I didn't order one at the time because I didn't have the answers :P | 07:46 |
Kiranos | ok they are willing to donate the hw to the MER project | 07:46 |
Kiranos | https://github.com/rabeeh/linux | 07:46 |
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* Sage_ ponders where the test directory structure is defined now | 07:56 | |
Aard | in your mind? :) | 07:56 |
Sage_ | probably one of the places :) | 07:58 |
Macer | my caps kit should be here soon :-) | 07:58 |
Macer | i had a broken board in a shuttle k45 with bulging caps | 07:58 |
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Stskeeps | morn slaine :) | 08:35 |
Sage_ | E-P: ping | 08:35 |
slaine | Morning folks | 08:35 |
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Sage_ | lbt, Stskeeps: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=Mer%3ATools%3ATesting <- Mer_Core_* "This repository is broken build not possible." | 08:44 |
lbt | mmm | 08:44 |
Sage_ | for three of those | 08:44 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: i didn't do anything :P | 08:45 |
Stskeeps | morn lbt | 08:45 |
lbt | morning | 08:45 |
Stskeeps | COBS and meego.com is immensely slow too | 08:45 |
lbt | :( | 08:46 |
lbt | I was looking at QML this morning | 08:46 |
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Sage_ | Are tests executed as a user or as root? | 08:51 |
Stskeeps | you can choose | 08:51 |
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Stskeeps | it should be user, mostly | 08:52 |
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Sage_ | http://pastie.org/4203263 :P | 08:53 |
Sage_ | testrunner-lite deps on sysinfo-tool? | 08:53 |
Stskeeps | wtff. | 08:53 |
Stskeeps | :P | 08:53 |
Stskeeps | i dont think so, but i think we can change it if it does | 08:54 |
Stskeeps | and use boardname instead | 08:54 |
Sage_ | that step there is from libcontentaction where it touches /home/user/ | 08:54 |
Stskeeps | evil | 08:54 |
Sage_ | yes, thus me wondering how that kind of stuff should be done actually | 08:54 |
Stskeeps | $HOME? | 08:55 |
Stskeeps | :P | 08:55 |
Sage_ | yes, hope that works | 08:55 |
phaeron | or xdg-dirs | 08:56 |
Stskeeps | lbt: fakeobs dead? | 08:56 |
lbt | not looked, sorting a bz issue | 08:56 |
Stskeeps | ok | 08:56 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: bz issue, btw? | 09:16 |
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lbt | Stskeeps: email change needed to be done by admin | 09:32 |
Stskeeps | ok | 09:32 |
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iekku | lbt, funny thing that i should be admin but can't change my own address :) | 09:43 |
lbt | did you try the Administration=>edit users? | 09:43 |
lbt | ie treat yourself as a user | 09:44 |
lbt | I'm always a little cautious because of the LDAP-write hacking I did | 09:45 |
lbt | Stskeeps: Sage_ btw... I have a *lot* of admin alerts for meego.com ... looking to see if something happened | 09:46 |
lbt | like 300+ | 09:46 |
Stskeeps | lbt: leap second? :P | 09:46 |
Stskeeps | lbt: fakeobs was restarted | 09:46 |
lbt | no, I sorted that.... not that anyone noticed :/ | 09:46 |
alterego | awww :p | 09:52 |
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lbt | :P | 09:53 |
dm8tbr | lbt: well there was this load of notifications about changes and updates on the other channel | 09:54 |
lbt | yeah, just been looking - MDS is run manually and there was reboot for security testing | 09:55 |
lbt | Stskeeps: I guess you restarted it | 09:55 |
Stskeeps | somebody did, i didn't | 09:55 |
Stskeeps | :P | 09:55 |
lbt | phaeron_n9: ? | 09:55 |
Stskeeps | (iamer or xfade) | 09:55 |
lbt | well, it looks like Sage_'s problem is sorted too | 09:57 |
phaeron_n9 | not me | 09:59 |
X-Fade | lbt: I did. | 09:59 |
lbt | X-Fade: ah, good - not magic then :) | 10:00 |
lbt | close though | 10:00 |
X-Fade | Hehe, no, not at all :) | 10:00 |
Stskeeps | now now, don't underestimate x-fade's capabilities | 10:00 |
Stskeeps | :P | 10:00 |
X-Fade | All it took was a su - stskeeps :D | 10:00 |
X-Fade | Switched to Stskeeps and I had all these magical powers. | 10:01 |
alterego | lol | 10:01 |
alterego | Did it give you a hat too? | 10:01 |
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Stskeeps | hello OlliD :) | 10:03 |
lbt | you have to be careful though ... Stskeepses aren't waterproof | 10:03 |
X-Fade | I'm told that sunlight is also tricky.. | 10:04 |
lbt | http://www.flickr.com/photos/96141280@N00/7506991872/in/photostream | 10:04 |
X-Fade | Lol, very friendly :D | 10:05 |
Stskeeps | the camera doesn't do the weather justice | 10:05 |
X-Fade | It was miserable? | 10:06 |
Stskeeps | at least i was | 10:06 |
lbt | for some reason it was my fault it was raining .... http://www.flickr.com/photos/96141280@N00/7506997754/in/photostream | 10:06 |
X-Fade | hehe | 10:07 |
X-Fade | I presume you brought the bad weather from the UK? | 10:07 |
lbt | I think I said "nah, we won't need coats" .... | 10:07 |
alterego | lol | 10:07 |
X-Fade | famous last words.. | 10:08 |
lbt | but yeah, clearly the N9 camera has the new invisible-rain technology | 10:08 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: about the eat device. I enable it and then when I login from terminal I should also have the dbus there? | 10:09 |
lbt | The last one needs a caption though .... probably related to Mer's version numbering system or git or ... | 10:09 |
lbt | Sage_: what are you doing with eat? | 10:10 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: when you use the .id_eat_dsa to ssh to device, it'll give you the environment | 10:10 |
Stskeeps | provided you rebooted first, after install | 10:10 |
lbt | I ask because after yesterday it's obvious it needs a little tlc in the docs dept | 10:10 |
lbt | yeah... like that | 10:10 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: hmmp... | 10:11 |
lbt | yeah, I said that too | 10:11 |
lbt | I said what you said, not what you typed btw | 10:11 |
* Sage_ ponders if our tests can actually depend on that or not. | 10:11 | |
lbt | yes, it should be installed in the .ks and mic prep stage | 10:12 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: [nemo@localhost ~]$ . ~/.eat-stored-env | 10:12 |
Sage_ | that works as well ;) | 10:12 |
lbt | it really should be noted that that is a uxlaunch/desktop processing dependency too | 10:13 |
lbt | ie eat won't work w/o uxlaunch | 10:13 |
lbt | if I understand it correctly | 10:13 |
Stskeeps | lbt: well, X startup session, rather | 10:13 |
Stskeeps | eat will work without, just.. not environment | 10:13 |
* lbt looks at shiva plug | 10:13 | |
lbt | etc | 10:13 |
Stskeeps | sure | 10:13 |
lbt | hmmm and if DISPLAY is the only thing... then... OK | 10:14 |
Stskeeps | eat should work without, env stuff is just a helper | 10:14 |
lbt | even so, it should be in the docs | 10:14 |
Stskeeps | agreed | 10:15 |
Stskeeps | i think you're in a good place to make a outline to be filled in :P | 10:15 |
Stskeeps | (by others) | 10:15 |
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alterego | lbt: I'd say it's finished now :) | 11:05 |
alterego | {"type":"request","request":"invoke","params":{"object":"grande-terminal-activity-agent","method":"open(QString)","args":{"activityId":"urn:102131"}}} | 11:05 |
alterego | It's a nice implementation that uses named arguments. | 11:05 |
alterego | Now, do I make a semantic based annotation framework for RPC calls to allow software to auto-detect how it should interact with other components .. | 11:08 |
alterego | Maybe another day. | 11:08 |
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lbt | E-P, iekku: QA soon? | 11:48 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps, iekku, E-P: http://pastie.org/4203859 progress :) | 11:50 |
iekku | lbt, seems to me that E-P isn't around | 11:51 |
iekku | lbt, he didn't sent a invitation, and didn't ask me to chair | 11:51 |
iekku | lbt, do we have short update anyway? | 11:51 |
lbt | hmm | 11:51 |
Sage_ | http://pastie.org/4203864 and the results file. | 11:51 |
lbt | I'd like to catch up | 11:51 |
lbt | Sage_ has been playing with eat | 11:51 |
lbt | we may have news from phaeron1 + Stskeeps on copyproj | 11:52 |
lbt | and I'd like to review our collective blockers/plans | 11:52 |
lbt | so I'm +1 for a meeting :) | 11:52 |
Stskeeps | i'm in for a meeting, but i need a shower first. | 11:52 |
Stskeeps | :P | 11:52 |
iekku | :) | 11:52 |
lbt | careful you'll get wet :) | 11:53 |
lbt | defer by 20m? | 11:53 |
Stskeeps | yeah | 11:54 |
phaeron1 | I can't make it | 11:54 |
lbt | :/ | 11:54 |
Stskeeps | ok, i'll talk about copyprj then | 11:55 |
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Sage_ | lbt: Mer:Tools:* Debian and Opensuse targets should be removed? | 12:15 |
lbt | yes | 12:15 |
Sage_ | k | 12:15 |
lbt | not sure about M:T:Testing | 12:15 |
Sage_ | Just wondering if our packaging needs to support those (I hope not) | 12:16 |
lbt | some stuff needs to work on non-SDK | 12:16 |
Sage_ | isn't that MINT stuff? | 12:16 |
Stskeeps | QA meeting in #mer-meeting in 4 minutes | 12:16 |
lbt | yeah - but do we really have the resource to manage the same code in both MINT and Tools ? | 12:16 |
lbt | so I'd like to have a shared :Testing for anything that goes to both | 12:17 |
lbt | then when an update happens to the src we don't end up out of sync | 12:17 |
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lbt | but that idea hasn't been clarified yet | 12:17 |
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lbt | right now everyone hacks on the tools and pushes it to random places using a variety of processes | 12:18 |
lbt | first bit is really good, second, not so much | 12:18 |
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Stskeeps | bigbluehat: without the dash | 14:35 |
Stskeeps | :P | 14:35 |
bigbluehat | Stskeeps: hilarious :) | 14:35 |
bigbluehat | not sure why you responded over here to something I was doing in #webos-ports | 14:36 |
bigbluehat | adding Growl notification to the list it was like having the sky open up :) | 14:36 |
Stskeeps | bigbluehat: i'd seem like a grammar nazi | 14:36 |
Stskeeps | :P | 14:36 |
Stskeeps | bigbluehat: did you see our wayland work btw? | 14:36 |
bigbluehat | no! how's that going? | 14:37 |
bigbluehat | Stskeeps: domain names supersede grammar in importance :) | 14:37 |
Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PMlgIoTuJ4&feature=plcp , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V83mChc-hQE&feature=plcp | 14:37 |
Stskeeps | bigbluehat: i'm trying not to spam webos-ports too much myself, there was one guy who rubbed people the wrong way.. | 14:38 |
bigbluehat | also, my RasPi is en route (ish) | 14:38 |
bigbluehat | so hope to get some Mer time in Real Soon Now™ | 14:38 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 14:38 |
bigbluehat | oh... | 14:38 |
Stskeeps | (lag on that video is known0 | 14:38 |
bigbluehat | Stskeeps: still very cool | 14:40 |
Stskeeps | our idea is to make a nice handy little stack for known targets such as exopc, lenovo s10-3t, virtualbox, n950/n9 (or n900) and raspberry pi | 14:40 |
Stskeeps | as they can all do fast wayland | 14:40 |
Stskeeps | i've been hacking a bit on touchpad as well, but no results yet | 14:41 |
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* w00t needs to get back to QML this weekend | 14:41 | |
w00t | either that or try fix my VM | 14:41 |
w00t | I'm not sure which :P | 14:41 |
* w00t shakes a fist at Stskeeps again :P | 14:42 | |
bigbluehat | Stskeeps: are you tracking the CE work? | 14:42 |
bigbluehat | lots of it actually | 14:42 |
Stskeeps | bigbluehat: yeah, i've used it to figure out how to wayland-ize my touchpad | 14:43 |
bigbluehat | ah :) | 14:43 |
Stskeeps | could be, erm, fun, to see how a modern non-android linux stack could function on qualcomm hw.. | 14:43 |
bigbluehat | still amazed by all this stuff :) so glad it's happening | 14:43 |
bigbluehat | how so? | 14:43 |
Stskeeps | well, i have mer on there, combine with qt5, wayland.. | 14:44 |
Stskeeps | 60fps composition.. | 14:44 |
Stskeeps | fully accelerated graphics.. | 14:44 |
Stskeeps | and it could be quite an interesting platform | 14:45 |
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Stskeeps | we'll see :P | 14:49 |
* bigbluehat stays amazed...looks under desk for more time...finds dusty hardware... | 14:50 | |
Stskeeps | you don't have something like a webos pdk installed or something that can build software for touchpad, do you? | 14:52 |
Stskeeps | i need latrace ported | 14:52 |
bigbluehat | Stskeeps: I believe I've got the PDK installed | 14:52 |
bigbluehat | latrace ported to Mer? | 14:53 |
Stskeeps | no, webos | 14:53 |
Stskeeps | http://people.redhat.com/jolsa/latrace/download.shtml | 14:53 |
Stskeeps | shouldn't need more than glibc | 14:53 |
bigbluehat | ah, gotcha | 14:53 |
Stskeeps | i have a strange bug where i can render to my own buffers, but .. not to screen | 14:54 |
bigbluehat | have you asked around in #webos-ports yet? | 14:54 |
bigbluehat | I'm brand new to the PDK side of things...focusing more on the SDK & learning webOS app dev mostly | 14:54 |
bigbluehat | with an eye toward tweaking the UI in CE | 14:54 |
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Stskeeps | hey anidel :) | 15:10 |
anidel | hi there Carsten | 15:11 |
anidel | met your lovely chap yesterday in the office | 15:11 |
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Stskeeps | i have a lot of lovely chaps ;) | 15:11 |
anidel | right :) David Greaves | 15:12 |
Stskeeps | ahh! you're in orange labs aren't you | 15:12 |
Stskeeps | i knew i knew more people from there | 15:12 |
anidel | I am indeed | 15:12 |
Stskeeps | david's lbt here :) | 15:12 |
lbt | oh hey anidel ... welcome to #mer :) | 15:13 |
anidel | I know :) | 15:13 |
anidel | oh there you are...sorry haven't used ircII for a loooong time and forgot how to request a list of users :) | 15:13 |
Stskeeps | people still use ircII? :P | 15:13 |
Stskeeps | sure you don't mean irssi :) | 15:13 |
anidel | I used to use it a lot :D and I still like it :p | 15:13 |
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anidel | I was indeed looking for my old scripts :p I think it was Phoenix... | 15:14 |
Stskeeps | hehe | 15:14 |
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anidel | yeah, Phoenix 2.01, released 20th, Nov 1994 :) that's the correct time :) | 15:15 |
* anidel tells his mind NOT TO compute 2012-1994 | 15:15 | |
lbt | anidel: so all my talking yesterday didn't frighten people off *too* much then | 15:17 |
anidel | on the contrary...your talking did not. You did :p | 15:17 |
lbt | hehe | 15:18 |
anidel | :0 | 15:18 |
lbt | I've been looking at minimal setup things a little bit today | 15:19 |
anidel | enough for a quick tutorial on a wiki page? | 15:19 |
lbt | step 1 is platform SDK | 15:20 |
lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK | 15:20 |
lbt | what device do you want to target? | 15:20 |
lbt | N900 I think you said | 15:21 |
anidel | I've got a N900, N950 (albeit waiting for a replacement from Nokia) and a Raspberry PI got a N900 as well as a N950 and a Pi | 15:21 |
anidel | I thought ircII had deleted the message I was typing...oh well. | 15:22 |
lbt | N900 then - I don't have a Pi yet | 15:22 |
lbt | and if your 950 is deadish ... no point yet | 15:22 |
anidel | it's working just fine...and Nokia's replacing it :D | 15:23 |
anidel | (for the 2nd time) | 15:23 |
lbt | ? ... ok :) | 15:23 |
anidel | but ok, the N900 is also already running Mer (Nemo) | 15:23 |
lbt | and it's just SD swapping too | 15:24 |
anidel | it works, the N950, just that the screen shows two black lines and I've been told it's only going to get worse from there, so asked them and they'll replace it | 15:24 |
anidel | ok | 15:24 |
alterego | anidel: was that from dropping it or was it that VCR thing? | 15:27 |
anidel | so, there's still someone following the FHS suggestions... :p | 15:27 |
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anidel | alterego: the first one was replaced after I dropped it, this one is for the VCR (assuming you're referring to the LCD lines) | 15:27 |
Sage_ | lbt: feature request for mer sdk. automatic ramdisk for osc build-root :) | 15:27 |
lbt | Sage_: hmm | 15:28 |
lbt | you can do that yourself quite easily | 15:28 |
alterego | anidel: you've had the N950 replaced twice?! :D | 15:29 |
lbt | in .oscrc build-root = /tmp/build/%(repo)s-%(arch)s-%(package)s | 15:29 |
alterego | Wow, that's really nice of them | 15:29 |
lbt | Sage_: try that | 15:29 |
anidel | alterego: yes, this is the 2nd time | 15:29 |
anidel | indeed REALLY nice ;) | 15:30 |
alterego | Maybe I should attempt to break mine so I can get one without all the scratches mine currently has ;) | 15:30 |
lbt | Sage_: but don't build Qt | 15:30 |
anidel | the first time I had to ship it to them and then they shipped the new one back. This time even more kinder, they'll ship one tomorrow alongside a box to ship this one back for free | 15:30 |
Sage_ | lbt: /tmp is ramdisk in mer sdk? | 15:30 |
alterego | anidel: cool | 15:30 |
lbt | Sage_: checking - I'd hope so ... | 15:31 |
alterego | anidel: guess you're going through launchpad? And not Nokia Care ;) | 15:31 |
lbt | you may need /parentroot/tmp | 15:31 |
anidel | alterego: not sure what will they do with the leftovers, if I knew they'd throw it away, I wouldn't mind asking. | 15:31 |
Sage_ | lbt: my /parentroot/tmp isn't ramdisk I'm quite sure about that. | 15:31 |
anidel | straight to the source, e-mailed a chap called Ville Moiso @nokia.com | 15:31 |
alterego | anidel: yeah, the screen being broken isn't a deal breaker as we've got S-Video out .. | 15:31 |
lbt | Sage_: run a decent distro? | 15:32 |
alterego | anidel: so it'd still be usefull in a way. | 15:32 |
anidel | yup | 15:32 |
Sage_ | lbt: opensuse | 15:34 |
Sage_ | mount | grep /tmp | 15:34 |
Sage_ | tmpfs on /srv/mer/sdks/sdk/var/tmp/build-root type tmpfs (rw,relatime,size=2097152k) | 15:34 |
Sage_ | that is made by me | 15:34 |
* alterego does a last round of cleaning up of his sources. | 15:34 | |
anidel | alterego: well if you think how useful a Pi can be, you can see how useful even a Nokia 770 may be, perhaps with Mer on it. | 15:35 |
anidel | and actually... | 15:35 |
anidel | :) | 15:35 |
Stskeeps | we don't have an armv5 port and i burnt off my 770 with trying to put a modern kernel on it | 15:35 |
Stskeeps | wifi is the problem there | 15:35 |
anidel | stskeeps yeah I know the wifi driver had a bug...:/ | 15:36 |
anidel | you saved me a look at the Mer pages | 15:36 |
Stskeeps | there's a little more hope on n8x0 though | 15:36 |
Stskeeps | on raspberry pi, the gles chip is what saves it all though | 15:37 |
alterego | I've got 770, N800, N810, N900, N950, N9 | 15:37 |
anidel | it depends the use you wanna make of it. The tablets are great as a remote touch screen for the Pi for example... | 15:37 |
alterego | I should start a museum ;) | 15:37 |
w00t | Stskeeps: did it literally catch fire? | 15:37 |
anidel | I've got all except the N800 which I'm looking for (and probably found :)) | 15:37 |
w00t | :P | 15:37 |
anidel | w00t! | 15:38 |
w00t | me! | 15:38 |
alterego | w00t: knowing Stskeeps ... ;) | 15:38 |
anidel | who are you? | 15:38 |
anidel | kidding :p | 15:38 |
w00t | alterego: yeaaah, i remember some scary battery discussions with him :D | 15:38 |
w00t | i've thankfully never had any of my electronics explode | 15:38 |
w00t | despite trying quite hard :( | 15:38 |
Stskeeps | i've bricked my Tizen device however... | 15:39 |
Stskeeps | :P | 15:39 |
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lbt | Sage_: I guess it wouldn't hurt to make /tmp in the SDK a tmpfs | 15:39 |
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anidel | how did you manage? | 15:39 |
w00t | Stskeeps: you can reflash now right? | 15:39 |
anidel | well I guess it's easy | 15:39 |
w00t | I was momentarily worried I bricked a galaxy nexus yesterday, but thankfully not | 15:39 |
Stskeeps | w00t: no | 15:39 |
Stskeeps | anidel: asked it to restore bootloader from it's own sd card | 15:40 |
Stskeeps | == boom | 15:40 |
Stskeeps | :P | 15:40 |
anidel | did they give a flasher? | 15:40 |
Stskeeps | they gave a flasher that speaks to uboot | 15:40 |
Stskeeps | guess what i nuked | 15:40 |
anidel | hard to guess :p | 15:40 |
anidel | uboot is what starts when you press volume down + power up from off, right? | 15:41 |
anidel | mmm might ask them if there's a way to recover the device. | 15:41 |
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Stskeeps | if there's a next tizen conference, i'll ask :P | 15:42 |
anidel | we're talking quite constantly with them, I will send an e-mail out to Korea and see what comes back. | 15:43 |
* anidel noted the *if* though | 15:43 | |
anidel | :) | 15:43 |
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alterego | Bloody QDesktopServices is in the gui module. | 15:44 |
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alterego | What if I want to write an app that doesn't have a gui but wants to know where all the Data directories are .. | 15:45 |
anidel | Step 1 ready | 15:46 |
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anidel | lovely chap from California's willing to send his N800 to me so that it can rest the rest of his life with its Maemo family... | 15:50 |
alterego | Awww :) | 15:51 |
alterego | You mean EOL ? :) | 15:51 |
anidel | there's no EOL for these devices :p | 15:52 |
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anidel | armv6l is for N900 right? | 16:01 |
dm8tbr | n900 can use armv7l | 16:02 |
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anidel | ok | 16:02 |
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Stskeeps | (and armv7hl) | 16:05 |
Stskeeps | we use armv7hl in nemo | 16:05 |
anidel | ok thanks | 16:08 |
anidel | following Platform SDK I arrived at Running osc and 'osc ls' first asked me to create an account and then it's returning basic auth failed | 16:11 |
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Stskeeps | did you do osc -A https://api.pub.meego.com or ? | 16:31 |
lbt | anidel: and do you have a meego.com account | 16:33 |
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anidel | it goes timeout on api.pub.meego.com/source | 17:24 |
anidel | yes I do have a meego account, the Wiki page doesn't say anything about meego account though :) | 17:25 |
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anidel | gotta go home now...ttyl | 17:25 |
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alterego | Okay, /now/ I'm going to do the final clean up of this lib ... | 17:28 |
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lbt | meego OBS seems to be down | 17:46 |
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lbt | mmm Mer Tools is not built for ARM etc | 17:50 |
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lbt | SWIG/_evp.i:12: Error: Unable to find 'openssl/opensslconf-arm.h | 19:32 |
Stskeeps | didn't we log a bug on this already | 19:32 |
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lbt | thought it was fixed | 19:33 |
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lbt | in gerrit I want to -1 the code review for 635 | 19:42 |
lbt | it seems to want me to -1 the verified (which I haven't technically done) | 19:42 |
lbt | Stskeeps: is that mandatory | 19:43 |
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Stskeeps | shouldnt be | 19:54 |
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lbt | ah, I see- it comes up with "server error" and accepts my comment anyhow ... hmm | 19:58 |
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vgrade | evening | 20:40 |
CosmoHill | hi | 20:41 |
CosmoHill | I got your mer image on my raspberry pi | 20:41 |
vgrade | CosmoHill, oh | 20:42 |
vgrade | thats quite an old one | 20:42 |
CosmoHill | that would explain why I've not used it | 20:42 |
vgrade | I think Stskeeps created something for a demo at Devamo a couple of weeks ago | 20:44 |
vgrade | so there may be a more recent ks kicking about | 20:45 |
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lbt | hey vgrade | 20:52 |
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vgrade | lbt, \0 | 21:03 |
vgrade | put a date in the diary for OBS | 21:03 |
vgrade | meeting | 21:03 |
lbt | :) | 21:03 |
* CosmoHill needs to stop watching Wheeler Dealers whilst looking for a car | 21:03 | |
vgrade | hows things? | 21:03 |
lbt | still quiet | 21:04 |
lbt | wotking on some tutorials for prototyping with Mer | 21:04 |
vgrade | nice news on the archos | 21:05 |
lbt | yes | 21:05 |
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macmaN | what the news is | 21:06 |
vgrade | http://basyskom.com/news/138-archos-plasma-active.html | 21:06 |
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macmaN | oh yes indeed. basyskom ppl were at KDE Akademy Tallinn event last weekend | 21:07 |
macmaN | and presented about plasma active, demoing it on the g9. when i went looking for the image url, discovered they had just published that article 1 day ago | 21:08 |
macmaN | i wonder does vivaldi have any advantage at all right now | 21:08 |
macmaN | was supposed to go out to dinner with Aaron, but he couldnt make it that night :/ | 21:09 |
vgrade | macmaN, did you see Aaron's presentation? | 21:09 |
macmaN | yes i did | 21:09 |
macmaN | i read the mer thread that night as well | 21:09 |
macmaN | adpatations yaddamathing | 21:09 |
vgrade | mer thread? | 21:09 |
macmaN | mailing list thread | 21:09 |
vgrade | been rather off grid for a few weeks | 21:10 |
macmaN | well no, this was a bit earlier, you already replied there i think http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg00528.html | 21:10 |
vgrade | macmaN, right I remember | 21:11 |
vgrade | whats the price differential between G9 and Vivaldi | 21:12 |
macmaN | vivaldis eventual price is still undetermined i think | 21:12 |
macmaN | i know i can buy the g9 at any time from retail at 250€ | 21:13 |
macmaN | vivaldi's screen is also total crap | 21:14 |
macmaN | compared to g9 | 21:14 |
vgrade | macmaN, yea but I'd choose the vivaldi to go in my kids bags to school | 21:15 |
macmaN | wdym? | 21:15 |
macmaN | as in vivaldi 7" ff? | 21:15 |
vgrade | build | 21:16 |
macmaN | ok. possibly. | 21:16 |
vgrade | i think the vivaldi would survive and the 10" g9 come back damaged | 21:16 |
macmaN | right. im only interested in the 8" | 21:17 |
vgrade | not held one of those so can't comment on build. Does the basyskom image run on that as well | 21:17 |
macmaN | yeap | 21:17 |
macmaN | did you check the release notes on the images | 21:18 |
macmaN | hardware accelerated version has known instability :/ | 21:18 |
vgrade | no not yet. | 21:18 |
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vgrade | but still, a first for PA on ARM | 21:18 |
macmaN | click the dl page link, the readmes are embedded | 21:18 |
macmaN | from what i was looking at... a massive bunch of apps needs a whole new UI | 21:19 |
macmaN | or rather, UX | 21:19 |
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macmaN | knowing open source, there's a looong winding road ahead | 21:20 |
vgrade | whats the view on the google tab? is it hackable. I noticed it does not have sdcard | 21:20 |
macmaN | but nevertheless, having a decently working piece of hardware available is a huge step :) | 21:20 |
macmaN | i'd just like to get a completely clean install going | 21:21 |
vgrade | good for Mer and Plasma Active communities, yes | 21:21 |
macmaN | no "desktop ui" apps ruining the imagination | 21:21 |
vgrade | apps, apps, apps | 21:22 |
vgrade | tizmee is interesting on that front | 21:22 |
macmaN | no doubt | 21:22 |
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vgrade | and Gecko | 21:23 |
macmaN | vgrade: aarons talk is up on lwn btw | 21:32 |
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macmaN | i think my questions got taped too at the end :) | 21:33 |
macmaN | i should actually download it then | 21:33 |
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macmaN | and i was tripping a bit, the video is not up there | 21:35 |
macmaN | just a recap article | 21:35 |
macmaN | but the akademy videos will surely appear soon | 21:35 |
vgrade | looking fwd | 21:42 |
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alterego | Hey vgrade long time, how're you doing? | 21:47 |
vgrade | alterego, good, just about getting my head above after starting at JLR in May | 21:52 |
vgrade | you? | 21:52 |
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alterego | Finally managed to get some time off paid projects, so I'm working on hobby projects now :) | 21:58 |
alterego | Some coding and some 3D printing, so I'm happy :D | 21:59 |
alterego | Hopefully I'll get a pi soon enough. | 21:59 |
alterego | We should arrange a meetup soon. | 21:59 |
vgrade | good to get time for that. I feel a but guilty as I've been off grid for the last few months | 22:01 |
vgrade | ash was trying to get some interest for a Tizen meetup recently | 22:02 |
alterego | Well, you're not the only one. I've been basically a husk of a developer a far as the community is concerned ;) | 22:02 |
vgrade | did you get to the SF conf | 22:02 |
alterego | Yeah, he called me yesterday actually. Think he might be turning towards BB10 though | 22:03 |
alterego | Until Tizen actually does something interesting, hopefully later this year. | 22:03 |
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vgrade | I'm busy up until my summer holls, but will be back mid august. So sometime back end of august | 22:05 |
alterego | Sounds good :) | 22:07 |
vgrade | I'll ping ash, have you seen Brenden recently. I saw some posts from himn recently on obs buillding? | 22:08 |
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vgrade | his last tweet was, Great Success! First class honours degree in Computer Science! | 22:10 |
alterego | Heh, no, I've not heard from him in ages :) | 22:11 |
vgrade | alterego, do you get over to Birmingham area? I'm there for work and so is Ash? | 22:16 |
alterego | I can get there, but I can't say I've been recently ;) | 22:16 |
alterego | I'm sure we can arrange something, I'll talk to Ash and get him to sort something out. | 22:19 |
alterego | I need to hit the hay now so I've gotta run. | 22:19 |
vgrade | night | 22:19 |
alterego | Hope to see you round here more ;) | 22:19 |
alterego | g'night | 22:19 |
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