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sp3000 | I should tattoo "$@" (with quotes) on something | 00:28 |
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GeneralAntilles | sp3000, how about on your neighbor's dog? | 01:42 |
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Paimen | morning all | 04:33 |
Stskeeps | morn | 04:38 |
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Ionakka | morning | 04:42 |
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Stskeeps | huomenta | 04:44 |
Paimen | Stskeeps: learning finnish already? | 04:45 |
Stskeeps | nah, just damaged from many years of working with finns :P | 04:46 |
harha1 | Stskeeps: Huomenta ;) | 04:47 |
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Paimen | I can now use more time for Mer and TDriver starting this week as my wife is back to work | 04:50 |
Stskeeps | cool | 04:50 |
Paimen | today is sadly for running errands | 04:50 |
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* Stskeeps runs some image test builds for next mer release.. | 05:03 | |
dm8tbr | moaning | 05:08 |
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* timoph watching nasa live feed | 05:18 | |
timoph | morning | 05:18 |
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Stskeeps | some of those people look very uncomfortable to be hugged | 05:33 |
Stskeeps | :P | 05:33 |
timoph | :) | 05:33 |
timoph | well, they're nerds :) | 05:33 |
Stskeeps | hehe | 05:33 |
Stskeeps | why is my sd card suddenly too small.. | 05:34 |
timoph | making too big images? | 05:34 |
Stskeeps | ok, it seems to be 2gb | 05:34 |
Stskeeps | where is my 8gb one.. | 05:34 |
M4rtinK | congrats to Curiosity & the team ! :) | 05:56 |
M4rtinK | well, both MER teams actually :) | 05:56 |
Stskeeps | hehe | 05:57 |
Stskeeps | Sage: ti-omap3-sgx uses /usr/sbin/modprobe | 05:58 |
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Stskeeps | morn jukkaeklund | 05:59 |
jukkaeklund | morning | 05:59 |
jukkaeklund | I guess eagle has landed | 06:00 |
Stskeeps | hehe | 06:00 |
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* Stskeeps is testing nemo on n900 | 06:01 | |
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Stskeeps | impressive it still performs quite well | 06:01 |
Ionakka | could somebody recommend yum repo containing the cross compilers? | 06:02 |
Stskeeps | Ionakka: that should be in sdk already | 06:02 |
Stskeeps | cross-armv6l-gcc etc should be installable | 06:02 |
Ionakka | hmm, i obviously should check few things o.O | 06:04 |
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Stskeeps | if it's not installable that's probably a problem :) | 06:06 |
Stskeeps | cross-<target>-gcc/binutils should be there | 06:06 |
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Stskeeps | hello jusa_ :) | 06:18 |
jusa_ | Stskeeps: hello :) | 06:18 |
Stskeeps | jusa_: welcome to #mer :) if you have any questions or wondering how to contribute, feel free to ask at any time, else feel free to hang out :) | 06:19 |
jusa_ | Stskeeps: thanks. | 06:19 |
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alterego | Good moaning | 06:44 |
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Stskeeps | Sage: /usr/sbin/modprobe in ti-omap3-sgx | 06:48 |
Sage | Stskeeps: it doesn't use that. or shouldn't use that. | 06:49 |
Stskeeps | it does | 06:49 |
Sage | I didn't push the patch. for that | 06:49 |
Stskeeps | look at systemd file | 06:49 |
Stskeeps | well | 06:49 |
Stskeeps | i'm using the -next .ks | 06:49 |
Sage | doesn't matter | 06:49 |
Sage | if you use those it uses the CE: repos with -next and those doesn't have the patches | 06:50 |
Stskeeps | handset-armv7hl-n900-0.20120719.0.3.NEMO.2012-08-02.5.ks | 06:50 |
Sage | Stskeeps: if you refer to ay home:* repo that is wrong .ks file | 06:50 |
Stskeeps | well | 06:50 |
Stskeeps | that's what you put online | 06:50 |
Stskeeps | :P | 06:50 |
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Sage | Stskeeps: ? | 06:51 |
Sage | Stskeeps: I told you to use nemo-kickstarter-configs and mer-kickstarter from my branch :) | 06:51 |
Stskeeps | mmkay | 06:51 |
Stskeeps | either way | 06:51 |
Stskeeps | that was only -next issue | 06:51 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: OK for full release, remark there's problems on HW adaptation side with livecd/liveusb on x86 and changes need to be merged into n900/n950/n9 repos | 07:25 |
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harha1 | Intrestingly, Nvidia has some hardfb drivers | 07:32 |
harha1 | maybe old news, but | 07:32 |
harha1 | http://developer.download.nvidia.com/devzone/tools/Tegra_Linux_Driver_Package_Release_Notes_R15_armhf.pdf | 07:32 |
Stskeeps | yes, they were actually the first | 07:32 |
Stskeeps | of vendors to do this officially | 07:32 |
Stskeeps | i was amazed | 07:32 |
harha1 | Would be interting to know if they have done more | 07:33 |
harha1 | intresting | 07:35 |
harha1 | or someone, I mean on mer/nemo scope | 07:35 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 07:36 |
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Stskeeps | hello Pauli :) | 07:58 |
lbt | morning | 07:59 |
Stskeeps | morn | 07:59 |
Stskeeps | lbt: see message above? | 07:59 |
lbt | yes | 08:00 |
lbt | no problem | 08:00 |
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lbt | did he feel excluded? | 08:00 |
Stskeeps | nah | 08:01 |
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lbt | *sigh* ... you non-physicists | 08:02 |
Pauli | Hi, there | 08:02 |
Stskeeps | Pauli: welcome to #mer :) if you have any questions about Mer, or on how to contribute, feel free to ask at any time :) | 08:02 |
lbt | morning Pauli | 08:02 |
Pauli | morning | 08:03 |
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Sage | lbt, Stskeeps: what do we need for mer to get mer_release macro created properly for each release/prerelease etc.? | 08:07 |
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Sage | cutting repositories to half by creating the change I would say it is more than good from Nemo point of view. | 08:08 |
lbt | definition in the prjconf | 08:08 |
Stskeeps | what lbt said, probably best solution | 08:08 |
lbt | good - I think it's the sane approach too | 08:08 |
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lbt | so part of the release process is to add this to prjconf once release is confirmed and before new pkgs are accepted? | 08:09 |
Stskeeps | perhaps | 08:09 |
Stskeeps | bug please | 08:09 |
lbt | I'm doing a release in a few mins | 08:10 |
lbt | I'm tempted to add the macro to the prjconf now | 08:10 |
lbt | well now +2hrs | 08:10 |
Stskeeps | nah, not right now | 08:10 |
Stskeeps | we have something that works | 08:10 |
Stskeeps | let's look at it in the short release | 08:10 |
lbt | it's only a macro definition | 08:10 |
Stskeeps | yeah, but remember that rpm doesn't deal well with decimal values | 08:10 |
Stskeeps | i just want the release out, that's all :) | 08:11 |
lbt | correct - let me dig out a meego mail/bug | 08:11 |
lbt | I discussed this with OBS people | 08:11 |
Sage | deal well... doesn't work at all ;) | 08:11 |
Stskeeps | the next release might already be monday | 08:11 |
lbt | essentially we multiply by 100 | 08:11 |
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Sage | lbt: maybe also add 10 or 100 to front? | 08:12 |
Sage | remember the number is 0.date atm. | 08:12 |
lbt | maybe, it became a long string.... | 08:12 |
lbt | (maybe = maybe we said that back then, - it sounds sensible now) | 08:13 |
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Sage | is multiply by 100 enough btw? | 08:14 |
Sage | [DIR] 0.20120517.0.0.1/ 30-Apr-2012 11:41 - | 08:15 |
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lbt | http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Release_Versioning | 08:20 |
lbt | I added the note "Worth noting that this release numbering system would sort alphanumerically for quite a while if Z and N were allocated 2 digits. Maybe for 1.2 ? " | 08:20 |
lbt | then removing the dots does the zero padding | 08:20 |
lbt | does/uses | 08:21 |
lbt | discussed with bitshuffler back in sept 2010 fwiw | 08:21 |
lbt | he suggested we do it in MeeGo to support exactly this use | 08:22 |
lbt | We should label this release "Rover" | 08:26 |
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lbt | OK ... starting the release <- Stskeeps | 09:00 |
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Stskeeps | ok | 09:08 |
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jonwil | stskeeps: Did those cellmo documents I uploaded for you the other day help? | 09:20 |
Stskeeps | jonwil: a bit, but they're not really matching the modems :/ | 09:20 |
jonwil | If I had the "version numbers" for the individual resource servers on the N9/N950, I might be able to dig deeper and find some info on some of them. But I dont have that information for the N9/N950, only the N900 | 09:22 |
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Stskeeps | hello M13_ | 09:23 |
M13_ | hell`o | 09:23 |
Stskeeps | M13_: welcome to #mer :) if you have any questions regarding Mer or on how to contribute, feel free to ask at any time | 09:24 |
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tanuk2 | jusa_: O hai! | 09:46 |
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rsadhu | hello All, how to bypass the company's proxy | 10:33 |
rsadhu | i tried exporting http_proxy inside sdk | 10:33 |
Stskeeps | with mic, or? | 10:33 |
rsadhu | but failing to connect | 10:33 |
rsadhu | yes mic | 10:33 |
jjardon | Hi! any plan to include qt-gstreamer in the repos? | 10:33 |
Stskeeps | jjardon: what deps does it have? | 10:33 |
Stskeeps | https://wiki.tizen.org/wiki/OSDev/MIC#How_to_set_proxy | 10:34 |
Stskeeps | -> rsadhu | 10:34 |
rsadhu | stskeeps: thanks | 10:34 |
rsadhu | stskeeps: one more question , for proxy settings for zypper ? | 10:35 |
Stskeeps | hmm | 10:35 |
Stskeeps | that should really respect https_proxy | 10:35 |
Stskeeps | er, https | 10:35 |
Stskeeps | err... | 10:35 |
Stskeeps | http_proxy | 10:35 |
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jjardon | Stskeeps: GStreamer 0.10.33 or later, Qt 4.7 or later, Boost 1.39. CMake 2.8.6 to build | 10:38 |
Stskeeps | jjardon: should work.. package it up? | 10:39 |
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Stskeeps | hello petrikah | 10:41 |
jjardon | Stskeeps: Sorry, Im not a packager. But Im happy to learn if you give me some docs | 10:41 |
petrikah | Hi | 10:41 |
Stskeeps | petrikah: welcome to #mer :) if you have any questions about Mer or on how to contribute, feel free to ask at any time :) | 10:41 |
jjardon | Stskeeps: btw congrats, this channel seems to have much more users than the last time I logged ;) | 10:43 |
petrikah | Hi, I have not used IRC before. I joined mer community with username petrikah. | 10:43 |
Stskeeps | petrikah: sure :) | 10:44 |
Stskeeps | jjardon: just take an existing yaml or spec from a qt lib and go from there | 10:44 |
Stskeeps | that's what i do :P | 10:44 |
Stskeeps | jjardon: did you see my android demo? | 10:45 |
petrikah | I wonder if my name is unique i.e., no others in IRC with same name | 10:45 |
Stskeeps | petrikah: it is :) | 10:45 |
Stskeeps | else you wouldn't be able to use it | 10:45 |
Stskeeps | REMINDER: Mer bug triage in 15 minutes in #mer-meeting | 10:45 |
petrikah | Ok :) | 10:45 |
Stskeeps | and we forgot to send out the mail, fantastic. | 10:46 |
Stskeeps | lbt: will you drive? | 10:48 |
lbt | mm | 10:48 |
lbt | ah, check clock,,, yes | 10:48 |
jjardon | Stskeeps: nope (I was in vacation disconnected from the technology). Link please ;) | 10:48 |
Stskeeps | jjardon: https://plus.google.com/113386402913695079840/posts/AeWgdNikXBP | 10:51 |
tanuk2 | Stskeeps: Is that supposed to be video? It looks like a video thumbnail with a play icon, but G+ treats it as a photo for me... | 10:54 |
jusa_ | tanuk2: hello :) | 10:54 |
Stskeeps | tanuk2: yes, want it in mp4 format instead? | 10:54 |
Stskeeps | http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/12080004.mp4 | 10:55 |
jjardon | Stskeeps: looks very promising, congrats | 10:55 |
tanuk2 | Stskeeps: Thanks! It looks like I don't have flash support installed, even though I thought I had... | 10:56 |
tanuk2 | jusa_: Nice to see you here :) | 10:57 |
jusa_ | tanuk2: likewise :) | 10:59 |
lbt | ANNOUNCE: bug triage started in #mer-meeting | 11:02 |
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petrikah | I compiled my very first Mer image for Raspberry Pi but I have no display/keyboard. So does image have support for serial port or ssh via Ethernet? | 11:21 |
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Stskeeps | petrikah: depends, what .ks did you use? | 11:22 |
jusa_ | anyone seen this error when repartitioning N9 for mer (following guide here: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Single_Boot_by_Loading_The_Kernel) -> repartitioning failed | 11:25 |
jusa_ | moslo /var/log/repartition.log says "ASSERT: Value of ('ALTOS_PART_NUM') not an integer!" | 11:25 |
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jusa_ | reading /usr/bin/autopartition.sh shows that this error happens after harmattan partition is resized and new partition is created. | 11:29 |
Stskeeps | jusa_: what size EMMC? | 11:30 |
jusa_ | Stskeeps: 64GB | 11:31 |
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Stskeeps | Sage: didnt we have some kind of fix for that? | 11:31 |
Sage | Not sure. the moslo thingy is a bit messy atm. | 11:32 |
kallela | jusa_: I just got the same repartitioning error with N9 16GB. nice to see you, btw! ;) | 11:32 |
Stskeeps | can you try the dual boot one? | 11:33 |
jusa_ | kallela: nice. :) and nice to see you, too :) | 11:33 |
jusa_ | Stskeeps: can do, I just want to cover all my bases before I shut down the device.. | 11:33 |
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kallela | jusa_, Stskeeps: I run the flasher command again to load the kernel and this time repartitioning went successfully through! (??) | 11:40 |
Stskeeps | interesting | 11:40 |
jusa_ | kallela: ok | 11:43 |
jusa_ | actually when I read the autopartition.sh script it seems that actually the partition creation/re-initialization of partition table silently fails | 11:43 |
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jusa_ | kallela: yep, same thing here, re-running flasher and it went through... strange. | 12:06 |
jusa_ | worst case scenario is that additional alternative os size amount of space is reserved from harmattan partition | 12:08 |
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Sage | Stskeeps: didn't have time to check much about the -next, seem to work ok. If you don't count the xorg signal 6 restart | 12:29 |
Sage | Stskeeps: ? (forgot) | 12:29 |
Stskeeps | it seems to work ok yes | 12:30 |
lbt | release done | 12:30 |
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Sage | Stskeeps: was release pushed to cobs already? | 12:36 |
Sage | if not please hold a moment :) | 12:36 |
Sage | Stskeeps: can you kick http://review.merproject.org/#change,728 | 12:46 |
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rsadhu | MerSDK bash-3.2$ sudo mic create fs mer-sdk-x86-chroot-latest.ks -o . --pkgmgr=yum --arch i486 --compress-disk-image=tar.bz2 | 12:52 |
rsadhu | Error <kickstart>: 'mer-sdk-x86-chroot-latest.ks': The following problem occurred on line 1 of the kickstart file: | 12:52 |
rsadhu | Unknown command: <?xml | 12:52 |
Stskeeps | if your .ks is xml, something is wrong | 12:53 |
dm8tbr | :) | 12:53 |
dm8tbr | usually a http error message or directory index ;) | 12:54 |
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rsadhu | stskeeps: yes it is xml | 12:54 |
rsadhu | :( | 12:54 |
rsadhu | after i get this kickstart (.ks) file , using | 12:56 |
rsadhu | curl -k -o mer-sdk-x86-chroot-latest.ks https://img.merproject.org/images/sdk/latest/images/mer-sb2sdk-i486-chroot/ | 12:56 |
rsadhu | i see its an xml | 12:56 |
Stskeeps | where was that instruction? | 12:56 |
rsadhu | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK | 12:56 |
lbt | Sage: ? | 12:58 |
dm8tbr | Stskeeps: I noticed the URL there points to the directory index and people don't think but just wget | 12:58 |
Sage | so | 12:58 |
lbt | dm8tbr: ha! | 12:58 |
dm8tbr | or at least one of them did point to a directory once | 12:58 |
lbt | it does | 12:58 |
Sage | Just realized a case where mer_release isn't enough for nemo and what would need separate subproject trees for :next: and :latest: | 12:58 |
dm8tbr | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK#Building_an_image | 12:59 |
dm8tbr | that one | 12:59 |
lbt | Sage: OK, lessee if we can resolve it | 12:59 |
dm8tbr | maybe you should prevent the url from being hilighted as such. (dunno the mw syntax, else I'd do it) | 12:59 |
Sage | lbt: for example, I have now telepathy-glib update pending that requires glib2 update to mer core. I can't push this to project that has repos building against latest and next as it wouldn't build against latest and would break | 12:59 |
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Sage | So in this case the source package would need to be separate for latest and next | 13:00 |
lbt | gah ... doorbell | 13:00 |
lbt | bbias | 13:00 |
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* Sage hopes lbt can think how to solve this with mer_release ;) | 13:01 | |
Stskeeps | Sage: is there a build check passed glib2 anywhere? | 13:04 |
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Sage | Stskeeps: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?arch_armv8el=1&defaults=0&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore%3Ai586&repo_Mer_Core_armv7hl=1&succeeded=1 ? | 13:05 |
Stskeeps | Sage: in gerrit.. | 13:05 |
Sage | http://review.merproject.org/#change,627 ? | 13:06 |
Stskeeps | that fails in qtwebkit and qemu-usermode-static | 13:06 |
Sage | it needs my qemu-usermode, pcre and qtwebkit submits as well | 13:06 |
Stskeeps | ok | 13:06 |
Sage | qemu-usermode needs pcre | 13:06 |
Stskeeps | i'm going to merge a lot of stuff and start a build with that overnight then | 13:06 |
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Sage | Stskeeps: let me know if you face problems. | 13:08 |
Sage | http://review.merproject.org/#change,684 <- qemu | 13:08 |
Stskeeps | Sage: ok | 13:11 |
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alterego | Sage: how're we getting on with qmsystem? | 13:14 |
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sivang | re all | 13:32 |
Stskeeps | wb | 13:32 |
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* sivang tries to undrestand what do we want to do with https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=176 | 13:33 | |
sivang | I would say adding a disclaimer should suffice, unless I'm not understanding the issue completely :) | 13:33 |
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Stskeeps | sivang: mer can't be lsb compliant and there | 13:34 |
Stskeeps | 's no ARM LSB | 13:34 |
sivang | Stskeeps: I see, so there's no point in having the packages at all? | 13:35 |
Sage | time for mer-standard-base ? ;) | 13:35 |
sivang | Sage: right on :) | 13:35 |
sivang | Stskeeps: we could try to be nice and say we are trying to follow the standard without any guarantee ? | 13:35 |
* sivang just throws ideas | 13:36 | |
Stskeeps | nah | 13:36 |
Stskeeps | in practice lsb doesnt' give us much tbh | 13:36 |
sivang | true | 13:36 |
sivang | okay, cool- so the first thing I understand from the issue is that at least in .ks files or their templates for that matter, those package should not be listed for inclusion anymore. | 13:37 |
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Stskeeps | yeah | 13:37 |
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Sage | meego-lsb isn't even installed on nemo images btw | 13:37 |
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Sage | lsb-release is though | 13:38 |
sivang | Sage: is it enough to drop them from the .ks templates or what else could be done to not have them taken care off at the buildd? | 13:40 |
Sage | some packages might use the lsb-release in their scripts so not sure | 13:41 |
Stskeeps | Sage: merged a bunch of stuff to mer | 13:41 |
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Sage | Stskeeps: can you handle this one as well http://review.merproject.org/#change,721 | 13:42 |
Sage | then I can do a fix for systemd package | 13:42 |
Stskeeps | Sage: afterwards | 13:42 |
sivang | Sage: then we should leave that one in, and just drop meego-lsb | 13:42 |
Sage | sivang: well, we should drop that one as well I think. But everything that depends on those needs to be fixed | 13:45 |
sivang | (not wanting to cause a rebuild and reduplicating common logic back) we could also rename the pkg but in terms of depends that woudl also cause a rebuild of the repo? | 13:45 |
Sage | Stskeeps: about the /usr link probably release after this next fast one? | 13:46 |
alterego | Stskeeps: do you mean my dialer stuff when you mentioned documentation earlier? | 13:46 |
lbt | Sage: had to pick Denise up from station - back now | 13:46 |
lbt | can you link to the new telepathy-glib version | 13:47 |
lbt | because that's exactly the thing we need to solve I think | 13:47 |
sivang | Sage: k, 'll record into bug report so far. | 13:48 |
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Sage | lbt: I don't have it packaged atm. but it is hard dependency to glib 2.32.x and old mer release has 2.30.x | 13:48 |
Sage | I can check the packaging though. A momemnt | 13:48 |
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Sage | lbt: actually now here https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=telepathy-glib&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3ACE%3AMW%3AShared | 13:52 |
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lbt | Sage: what's the objective here? Because I'm thinking : CE:MW:Shared / telepathy-glib-next | 13:56 |
lbt | to do it with macros would end up with multiple Source0 | 13:57 |
lbt | although | 13:57 |
lbt | hmm | 13:57 |
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sivang | Stskeeps, Sage : when rpm -q lsb-release --whatrequires I get 'no package requires lsb-release' | 14:09 |
sivang | (on the SDK) | 14:09 |
sivang | perhaps I should test this on the image? | 14:09 |
lbt | Sage: https://gist.github.com/3274678 | 14:09 |
lbt | you'd need 2 src tarballs in the packaging | 14:09 |
lbt | and would produce different versions of glib-telepathy for both | 14:10 |
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lbt | bbiab | 14:10 |
Sage | lbt: that is starting to go a bit complex in my opion | 14:12 |
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Sage | lbt: as I need to do it for 5 packages in telepathy and then api's change and then it goes to UX etc. | 14:12 |
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Stskeeps | sivang: bbl | 14:18 |
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crevetor | Hi guys | 14:24 |
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Stskeeps | heya crevetor | 14:26 |
alterego | Hi crevetor | 14:29 |
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crevetor | Stskeeps: I was wondering, if we want to have a hardfp build for RaspberryPi is it "only" a matter of recompiling every package with hardfp support ? | 14:39 |
Stskeeps | yes | 14:39 |
Stskeeps | i made the first hardfp build for rpi | 14:39 |
Stskeeps | all the others are just impersonators | 14:40 |
Stskeeps | :P | 14:40 |
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crevetor | :) | 14:40 |
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crevetor | Stskeeps: do you mean that the armv6l is actually armv6hl ? | 14:41 |
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Stskeeps | no, but i already did a simple test run ages ago | 14:42 |
crevetor | ok | 14:42 |
crevetor | Would it be possible to add armv6hl to OBS ? | 14:43 |
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Stskeeps | yes, but bigger fish to fry first | 14:49 |
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lbt | Sage: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_cross_distribution_howto#Detect_a_distribution_flavor_for_special_code | 14:53 |
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crevetor | Stskeeps: would I be able to do it myself ? | 14:54 |
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Sage | lbt: yes, I can understand packaging same version with those macros but packaging different version seems like a huge burden. How to make sure that there isn't soon 5 different tarballs for different releases? Will be remove src.rpm's for good as those would not work properly for each of them if you don't mention all the sources for all. | 15:09 |
Sage | ok, time to go out for a moment to collect thoughs :) | 15:09 |
lbt | well - you currently only want -latest and -next | 15:10 |
lbt | you could take the approach I used in Mer 1.0 | 15:11 |
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lbt | nm forget that | 15:12 |
lbt | but yes, I think it's better to do that than to duplicate the entire project | 15:12 |
lbt | and the answer on "how to ensure" is policy | 15:12 |
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rsadhu | i want to install mercurial repo client on sdk | 15:17 |
rsadhu | zypper cant find the package hg | 15:18 |
rsadhu | do i have to build it ? | 15:18 |
lbt | yes | 15:18 |
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lbt | rsadhu: when you've done that you may want to submit it to Mer:Tools | 15:19 |
rsadhu | lbt: i didnt understand , what does submit means here ? | 15:20 |
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lbt | well, I need to write some docs on that | 15:22 |
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lbt | iamer updating mic for imager => "nothing provides btrfs-progs needed by mic, nothing provides python-zypp >= 0.5.9.1 needed by mic" | 16:01 |
lbt | (nb is mic really a BR for imager?) | 16:02 |
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Ionakka | what is btw happening with the obs? | 16:03 |
Stskeeps | Ionakka: we released a new mer release | 16:07 |
Stskeeps | lots of rebuild | 16:07 |
lbt | not yet afaik | 16:07 |
Stskeeps | oh | 16:07 |
Stskeeps | well then n | 16:07 |
Stskeeps | o | 16:07 |
lbt | Ionakka: what do you mean? | 16:07 |
lbt | Stskeeps: waiting for Sage to take nemo snapshot | 16:08 |
Stskeeps | ok | 16:09 |
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sp3000 | anybody familiar with where sb2 takes patches? | 16:12 |
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Stskeeps | sp3000: gitorious or author directly, http://maemo.gitorious.org/scratchbox2 | 16:13 |
sp3000 | yeah, well, there seem to be two merge requests ever there, from 2 years ago, so that path looks a bit dead | 16:14 |
sp3000 | mailing random people it is! :) | 16:14 |
Stskeeps | Lauri@aarnio.org | 16:14 |
Stskeeps | try that | 16:14 |
sp3000 | yeah he seems most recently active | 16:15 |
Stskeeps | what issue did you find? | 16:15 |
Ionakka | <lbt> Ionakka: what do you mean? <--- i meant whether it would move out from meego.com soonish | 16:15 |
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sp3000 | Stskeeps: https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=481#c0 | 16:16 |
Stskeeps | sp3000: you're tuukka, or? | 16:17 |
sp3000 | right | 16:17 |
Ionakka | some packages at public obs doesn't seem to be that-up-to-date | 16:17 |
Stskeeps | sp3000: man, i have got to get my real name -> irc connections right.. | 16:18 |
lbt | Ionakka: 2 questions : moving out from meego.com ... no immediate plans | 16:18 |
sp3000 | card carrying member of the secret superhero identity club | 16:18 |
lbt | packages up-to-date: Mer is up2date, other packages depend on their maintainers | 16:18 |
sp3000 | well, except for the card carrying | 16:19 |
sp3000 | that's fixable! :P | 16:19 |
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Ionakka | lbt: thanks | 16:23 |
lbt | Ionakka: any packages in particular? | 16:24 |
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Ionakka | lbt: i was looking for connman-qt | 16:24 |
Ionakka | found it in CE:MW:Shared which should be up-to-date one | 16:24 |
lbt | correct | 16:24 |
Ionakka | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/OBS <--- helpful wiki page | 16:25 |
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sivang | bbl y'all | 16:40 |
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* CosmoHill offers Stskeeps a drink | 17:54 | |
Stskeeps | thanks | 17:55 |
CosmoHill | good day bad day? | 17:56 |
lbt | just tweakint the yaml->xml for patterns to support multiple yaml docs in one file - should make editing groups a bit easier | 17:57 |
CosmoHill | i have no idea what any of that meant but I know I've done something related | 17:57 |
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RaYmAn | slightly offtopic, but anyone familiar with any simple, small "GUI" style frameworks for simple graphics on framebuffer? (embedded so slightly related ;)) | 18:22 |
Paimen | Qt for embedded uses framebuffer | 18:23 |
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RaYmAn | isn't that fairly large? (the part I forgot to mention - it has to fit in a ramdisk) | 18:24 |
Paimen | ah that small | 18:25 |
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RaYmAn | yeah - just need something for a short-running ramdisk-based tool. Having trouble finding anything useful | 18:25 |
Stskeeps | RaYmAn: we used this text2screen tihngie | 18:26 |
Paimen | have you checked directFB | 18:26 |
Paimen | http://www.directfb.org/ | 18:26 |
RaYmAn | yeah - looked at it. Was rather unsure how well it works on arbitrary embedded framebuffer drivers | 18:27 |
RaYmAn | Guess I need to try it out :) | 18:27 |
Paimen | well those 2 are only ones came to my mind | 18:28 |
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RaYmAn | text2screen might be sufficient actually | 18:28 |
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RaYmAn | thanks for the pointers in any case :) | 18:31 |
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Stskeeps | RaYmAn: https://github.com/stskeeps/libhybris - place i'm cleaning up stuff | 18:33 |
RaYmAn | Stskeeps: ah, cool :) | 18:33 |
Stskeeps | (not really working yet) | 18:33 |
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Stskeeps | hello wesk77_ | 18:34 |
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Stskeeps | :P | 18:35 |
wesk77_ | hi Stskeeps | 18:35 |
Paimen | it seems to be rainy day tomorrow | 18:35 |
Stskeeps | wesk77_: welcome to #mer :) so what brings you here? | 18:36 |
Stskeeps | Paimen: here they issued a warning over a massive thunderstorm and "don't go outside" | 18:36 |
Stskeeps | :P | 18:36 |
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Stskeeps | should be a fun evening | 18:36 |
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wesk77_ | a ping timeout, i guess ;P | 18:37 |
Stskeeps | hehe | 18:37 |
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wesk77_ | or a flood, it seems Oo | 18:37 |
Paimen | well my wife tried to convict me to pick some blueberries, but it seems that I can just stay inside and merge qt5 stuff to tdriver | 18:37 |
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Stskeeps | hehe | 18:38 |
* dm8tbr has something, but there is no explicit license attached | 18:39 | |
dm8tbr | other option would be to look at kexecboot they had some graphics and text and it fit an initramfs | 18:39 |
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RaYmAn | dm8tbr: yeah, that is part of my research list too.. :P | 18:43 |
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wesk77 | Stskeeps: though actually i'm here because maemo is more or less dead and i guess i'll have to switch my n900 to mer (nemo) at some point | 18:57 |
wesk77 | so i thought it'd be a good idea to idle here a bit to stay informed on interesting changes :) | 18:58 |
Stskeeps | wesk77: sure :) #nemomobile is always a good place too | 18:59 |
wesk77 | yes, i'm over there, too | 18:59 |
Stskeeps | alright | 19:00 |
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sivang | evening | 19:46 |
CosmoHill | hi | 19:46 |
sivang | hey CosmoHill | 19:48 |
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CosmoHill | how are you | 20:04 |
sivang | CosmoHill: mostly well, you? :) | 20:05 |
CosmoHill | I'm good | 20:05 |
sivang | CosmoHill: Are you contributing to Mer ? | 20:05 |
CosmoHill | no i just hang about here | 20:05 |
sivang | CosmoHill: ah, just as good, what are you up to these days? | 20:05 |
CosmoHill | I got a job as a web developer :) | 20:05 |
CosmoHill | i need to organise my spare time better so I can do things | 20:06 |
fk_lx1 | CosmoHill: time organization is the hardest part | 20:06 |
sivang | CosmoHill: ah nice! What tech's? | 20:06 |
CosmoHill | I started by cleaning my desk and going for bike rides | 20:06 |
CosmoHill | oh it's shite | 20:06 |
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CosmoHill | windows desktop with free software | 20:07 |
CosmoHill | I installed vmware and run fedora on it | 20:07 |
CosmoHill | virtualbox* | 20:07 |
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sivang | CosmoHill: what web tech are you using? | 20:16 |
CosmoHill | oh, php and mysql for me | 20:17 |
CosmoHill | but I can do html, css and some js | 20:17 |
CosmoHill | http://black-flag.co.uk/Portfolio/ | 20:17 |
sivang | nice! I'm working with nodejs these days | 20:17 |
CosmoHill | nice | 20:18 |
Venemo | I'll probably get frowned for saying, but I use ASP.NET for web dev | 20:18 |
CosmoHill | know a guy who wrote a irc bot in it | 20:18 |
CosmoHill | Venemo: cool | 20:18 |
CosmoHill | I use git and less on my personal projects | 20:19 |
Venemo | git is awesome | 20:19 |
CosmoHill | work in a mess | 20:19 |
CosmoHill | stuff gets done but not in the best way | 20:19 |
Venemo | what do you mean? | 20:19 |
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CosmoHill | we have issues of me and the other developer accidently overwriting changes or things being broken and the boss being pissed when he's the one that fines then | 20:20 |
Venemo | well, a version control system should eliminate those issues. | 20:21 |
Venemo | even a basic one | 20:21 |
CosmoHill | yeah | 20:22 |
CosmoHill | well they never had this issue until they hired me | 20:22 |
CosmoHill | (me being the second developer) | 20:22 |
Venemo | mhm :) | 20:22 |
Venemo | hm. | 20:22 |
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CosmoHill | what I try and do is write the best code that I can and learn as I go :) | 20:23 |
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CosmoHill | I should do something with my pi | 20:25 |
CosmoHill | and my websites | 20:25 |
CosmoHill | and bike | 20:25 |
CosmoHill | and life... | 20:25 |
fk_lx | wow | 20:25 |
fk_lx | the last part sounds scary | 20:26 |
fk_lx | I mean serious | 20:26 |
CosmoHill | dw, you can't see me smiling | 20:26 |
fk_lx | doing sth with life sounds you are not pleased with it at the current state | 20:27 |
CosmoHill | I've had a job for four months so it's still early days | 20:27 |
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CosmoHill | I find that since I got my job I don't do anything with my spare time | 20:31 |
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CosmoHill | I lack motivation but when I get going on stuff without distraction I can do a lot of work | 20:41 |
CosmoHill | I've done some stuff with my bike and four hours later I finished tinkering | 20:42 |
fk_lx | :-) | 20:43 |
fk_lx | you spend a lot of time playing with your bike | 20:43 |
CosmoHill | i love my bike | 20:43 |
CosmoHill | i can strip it and put it back together again if I want | 20:43 |
fk_lx | that's great | 20:43 |
CosmoHill | I could probably do the same with my car if I wanted and was brave enough | 20:43 |
CosmoHill | my attitude is that if I can do something myself I will and if I can't I'll give it a try | 20:44 |
CosmoHill | I've worked on my car with my cousin just sitting there texting and helping me when I need it | 20:44 |
CosmoHill | I took my car for a swim and needed to strip the interior afterwards :/ | 20:45 |
fk_lx | yeah but if you will be doing everything by yourself, then probably you won't have spare time for other things | 20:45 |
CosmoHill | i mean like coding, working on my bike, doing stuff | 20:45 |
CosmoHill | if I sit on my arse watching stuff I feel like I've wasted my time | 20:45 |
CosmoHill | I need to do something with my time so I can say 'I've done this today" | 20:46 |
fk_lx | make todo list | 20:47 |
fk_lx | a tick what you have acheived | 20:48 |
fk_lx | it will motivate you more to do useful things | 20:48 |
CosmoHill | I got a old todo list | 20:48 |
CosmoHill | has things like "ride bike with luke" | 20:48 |
CosmoHill | I don't speak with luke any more (for one reason or another) | 20:49 |
CosmoHill | fuck, I was meant to phone someone about viewing a car about an hour ago | 20:50 |
fk_lx | bad organization | 20:51 |
fk_lx | :-) | 20:51 |
CosmoHill | mum just said they might be on hoilday anyway | 20:52 |
CosmoHill | been looking at cars for ages (as you knows well know) but I'm actually viewing cars now and I think I've found one | 20:53 |
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CosmoHill | is that the same as #stfu-cosmo ? | 20:57 |
Stskeeps | nah | 20:58 |
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CosmoHill | Stskeeps: one day I will contribute something useful to mer | 20:59 |
sivang | Stskeeps: :) | 21:00 |
Stskeeps | good | 21:00 |
sivang | Stskeeps, phaeron : there's a chance I need to upgrade mic? getting: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1133222/ | 21:00 |
Stskeeps | nah, just new release out and repos you use not updated yet | 21:01 |
sivang | Stskeeps: so just wait for upgrade to pass thru ? | 21:02 |
phaeron | sivang: if you're using latest kickstart I pointed out, then you might have stale cache or caching proxy somewhere inbetween | 21:03 |
phaeron | hmm scratch that | 21:04 |
phaeron | seems stuff hasn't rebuilt in obs | 21:04 |
phaeron | lbt: ^^ | 21:04 |
sivang | oh okay | 21:07 |
sivang | so obs needs a kick? | 21:07 |
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sivang | I did 'ref' | 21:09 |
sivang | to zypper, and update | 21:09 |
phaeron | sivang: problem not on your side | 21:09 |
sivang | ah k :) I'll get some sleep and try again later. | 21:09 |
sivang | thanks. | 21:10 |
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CosmoHill | hey lbt | 21:53 |
CosmoHill | toyota avensis 2.2 turbo diesel, yay or nay? | 21:54 |
lbt | o/ | 21:54 |
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