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iekku | morning | 04:05 |
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deztructor | morn | 04:47 |
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dm8tbr | moaning | 04:58 |
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Stskeeps | good morning | 05:13 |
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VDVsx | morning | 05:17 |
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vgrade | monirng | 05:35 |
vgrade | zzzz | 05:35 |
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Stskeeps | morn e8johan, the disasters have ceased to happen by now? | 05:38 |
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Stskeeps | http://realnorth.net/demos/mer/ | 06:20 |
e8johan | stskeeps: still waiting for the evaluation and bill for the roof, but yes, things seems to hold together for now - thanks for asking :-) | 06:20 |
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timoph | Stskeeps: ah. my comedy act included | 06:24 |
timoph | :/ | 06:24 |
timoph | but the site looks nice | 06:25 |
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niqt | hi | 06:30 |
Stskeeps | morn niqt | 06:30 |
niqt | when will be on-line the new website | 06:30 |
Stskeeps | hehe | 06:30 |
Stskeeps | high expectations :) | 06:30 |
niqt | I have seen on twitter (the preview) | 06:31 |
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timoph | anyone looked at tizen's platform sdk? | 06:37 |
timoph | "The platform SDK is only available on the Ubuntu® 32-bit environment." | 06:37 |
Stskeeps | yeah.. | 06:38 |
timoph | was going to check how they are doing things but then hit that | 06:39 |
niqt | i installed it and did a hello world and nothing else. I'm not a fan Tizen | 06:39 |
Stskeeps | timoph: also, read the license.. | 06:40 |
timoph | hmmh. can't seem to find the license online and the sdk manager reguires :) | 06:43 |
timoph | java | 06:43 |
* timoph found it | 06:44 | |
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Stskeeps | Sage_: is there a more up to date xorg-x11-utils-xinput ? | 06:51 |
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niqt | is alpha qt5 in mer? | 06:55 |
Stskeeps | yes | 06:55 |
Stskeeps | and beta1 soon | 06:55 |
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niqt | ok, good, who do it? | 06:56 |
Stskeeps | me and situ, and based on work by bostik | 06:56 |
niqt | ok | 06:56 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: I don't have one at least | 06:56 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: ok, will make one myself | 06:58 |
* Sage_ is pondering if we should push tools like this to Mer:Tools or something | 07:00 | |
Stskeeps | probably | 07:00 |
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timoph | Stskeeps: pretty evil license. decided to leave the thing be | 07:13 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: what xorg version are you trying to upgrade to? | 07:15 |
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Sage_ | 1.13.0 | 07:17 |
Sage_ | not sure if there is newer already | 07:17 |
Sage_ | linaro was using 1.12.99. something so the prerelease already | 07:17 |
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Sage_ | \o/ new xorg booted on n950 \o/ | 07:19 |
Stskeeps | woo | 07:20 |
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faenil | morning | 07:30 |
cybette | morning faenil | 07:31 |
faenil | hey :) | 07:31 |
* cybette still needs coffee | 07:32 | |
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Stskeeps | Sage_: i'm going for libxi downgrade, disable xinput2 in qtbase and getting this stuff to another prerelease, then out the door | 07:37 |
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* dm8tbr reads a presentation and giggles to himself | 07:42 | |
Stskeeps | mm? | 07:43 |
dm8tbr | money quote "An amazing number of corporate open source efforts are announced /without/ /source/ /code/!" | 07:43 |
Stskeeps | dm8tbr: heh | 07:43 |
Stskeeps | dm8tbr: what presentation is that, out of curiousity? | 07:43 |
dm8tbr | http://www.slideshare.net/bcantrill/corporate-open-source-antipatterns - pages 9 and following | 07:43 |
Stskeeps | thanks | 07:43 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: ok | 07:43 |
dm8tbr | this presentation is a keeper | 07:44 |
Stskeeps | dm8tbr: yeah, think i'll distribute it around a bit too | 07:44 |
* dm8tbr will put it on G+ | 07:45 | |
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dm8tbr | oh man, this just keeps giving | 07:48 |
Stskeeps | mm? | 07:48 |
dm8tbr | 'ersatz democracy' | 07:48 |
* timoph reads | 07:48 | |
Stskeeps | dm8tbr: yeah, i've seen that one before.. | 07:49 |
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Stskeeps | morn slaine | 07:54 |
slaine | Morning Stskeeps | 07:55 |
* Stskeeps ponders idly how on earth a ladybug made it to 9th floor | 07:56 | |
slaine | they have wings | 07:56 |
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Jake9xx | Stskeeps: eleavator? | 08:00 |
Stskeeps | hmm, maybe | 08:00 |
Jake9xx | Stskeeps: I cannot type today, elevator | 08:00 |
Stskeeps | ah | 08:00 |
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slaine | Lift as we say | 08:03 |
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timoph | heh. first 8 tweets in my twitter feed are links to the antipattern slides :) | 08:20 |
cybette | :) | 08:21 |
lbt | morning all | 08:28 |
Stskeeps | morn lbt | 08:28 |
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faenil | lbt, morn :) | 08:30 |
lbt | o/ | 08:30 |
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lbt | *sigh* ... nasm doesn't build vbox - it wants yasm | 09:40 |
Stskeeps | hehe | 09:40 |
lbt | it's a completely homegrown build using kBuild instead of make | 09:40 |
Stskeeps | yup | 09:41 |
lbt | hmmm ... | 09:41 |
lbt | oh... it seems to include yasm src... | 09:42 |
* lbt has an 8 core 8Gb private build VM on a spare Meego phost ... at least it's quite speedy :) | 09:43 | |
lbt | no.. it includes a yasm binary.... which suse stripped out | 09:45 |
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lbt | booyah!! /tmp/vbox.0/vboxsf.mod.o | 10:36 |
Stskeeps | woo | 10:36 |
Stskeeps | but does it link? | 10:36 |
* Stskeeps runs | 10:36 | |
* lbt doesn't care and just watches it resting quietly... | 10:38 | |
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SouL_ | Hi | 11:29 |
Stskeeps | hello SouL_ :) welcome to #mer :) | 11:30 |
SouL_ | I'm a Debian + KDE user and I own an Android Tablet. I don't know if any of you can answer/help me but... | 11:31 |
SouL_ | Is possible to install Mer on it? I don't Like google, really but I can't find a solution | 11:32 |
SouL_ | I don't want to chroot | 11:32 |
Stskeeps | SouL_: long story short you need to get a hardware adaptation going and it's not easy | 11:32 |
SouL_ | I want a Full install of Mer or whatever if it is GNU/Linux | 11:32 |
SouL_ | Oh.. | 11:32 |
lbt | gah .... vboxsf: version magic '3.0.0-5.1-adaptation-pc SMP preempt mod_unload ATOM ' should be '3.0.0-3.1-adaptation-pc SMP preempt mod_unload ATOM | 11:32 |
SouL_ | So it's better sell it If I'm not an engineer or something? | 11:32 |
Stskeeps | SouL_: if you need something you can install real linux on, archos g9 are pretty good | 11:33 |
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SouL_ | It's android, and i don't like android. | 11:38 |
SouL_ | Yes, it's Open Source and all that you want but, it comes from google and I don't like how they act | 11:38 |
faenil | SouL_, but it's easier to hack, that's what Stskeeps meant | 11:38 |
SouL_ | I'll wait for vivaldi or something.. | 11:38 |
SouL_ | :( | 11:39 |
SouL_ | faenil: I'm not a programmer | 11:39 |
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faenil | SouL_, don't need to be one, there are tutorials on how to flash a PlasmaActive (for example) on it | 11:40 |
faenil | though I don't remember, better ask Stskeeps if you want to know more about that ;) | 11:40 |
faenil | I had a G9 myself | 11:41 |
SouL_ | Maybe I don't write good | 11:41 |
SouL_ | Hang on a sec please | 11:41 |
SouL_ | I have this: http://www.focalprice.com/CE0031W/HYUNDAI_A7_7_Capacitive_Android_40_Tablet_with_3G_WiFi_White.html | 11:41 |
faenil | I can't help with that :) | 11:41 |
SouL_ | And I want to delete Android and install Debian, Mer... | 11:42 |
SouL_ | My question is | 11:42 |
SouL_ | Is that possible or not? | 11:42 |
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faenil | not straight away | 11:42 |
SouL_ | For a user | 11:42 |
faenil | nope | 11:42 |
faenil | (as far as I know) | 11:42 |
SouL_ | I thought that you could install the OS like changing the rom or like the computers | 11:43 |
faenil | Mer has to support it for that to be possible | 11:44 |
faenil | and the tablet has to support installation of other OSes than Android | 11:44 |
faenil | in your case, Mer doesn't support that chipset (afaik), and I think Hyundai doesn't provide anything to change OSes either | 11:45 |
SouL_ | So.. I'm an innocent dreamer.. | 11:45 |
faenil | :) | 11:45 |
SouL_ | Thanks for your help | 11:45 |
lbt | SouL_: the problem is that the drivers for the graphics on your tablet are closed and cannot be used. You may be able to run Mer on your device but it will have no (or poor) screen. | 11:45 |
faenil | wow, so yet worse | 11:45 |
SouL_ | Ohh | 11:46 |
lbt | almost all the problems we have are caused by closed graphics | 11:46 |
SouL_ | Well, is a step! | 11:46 |
faenil | lbt, can't libhybris help on that side? | 11:46 |
lbt | not yet | 11:46 |
faenil | ok, hopefully will :) | 11:47 |
SouL_ | Do you know tablets that can run Mer or any other GNU/Linux distributions? | 11:47 |
faenil | SouL_, guess what, Archos G9 :P | 11:47 |
kontio | SouL_, from the FAQs: Mer is intended to be used directly by system integrators and hardware developers and only indirectly by normal end-users. | 11:47 |
SouL_ | I want to know it for the next time I buy a Tablet | 11:47 |
faenil | there is also ExoPC, and don't know what else | 11:47 |
lbt | AFAIK the Vivaldi tablet is close and that runs Mer ... and buying it supports the OSS ecosystem | 11:47 |
FlameReaper | faenil: that, and as far as I don't like to acknowledge - Acer Iconia W5XX series | 11:47 |
faenil | yeah Vivaldi too | 11:48 |
faenil | FlameReaper, oh yeah the Windows series you mean | 11:48 |
FlameReaper | Yes | 11:48 |
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faenil | still using HARET? :D | 11:48 |
faenil | jk | 11:48 |
FlameReaper | Plasma Netbook UX runs nicely on it | 11:49 |
faenil | nice | 11:49 |
faenil | pity they cost a lot | 11:49 |
SouL_ | I will try to sell my android tablet to buy Vivaldi so | 11:49 |
SouL_ | Thanks for all, really | 11:49 |
rcg | g'day | 11:49 |
SouL_ | Thanks for your work too | 11:49 |
faenil | rcg, hey :) | 11:49 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: vivaldi got kinda postponed, see aseigo's blog.. | 11:51 |
* jonwil wonders if the recent talk by Nvidia about Tegra will help Mer... | 11:51 | |
Stskeeps | jonwil: saw libhybris advances? | 11:51 |
jonwil | no | 11:51 |
Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb3Jz-lAGK4 | 11:52 |
jonwil | nice | 11:53 |
Stskeeps | fonts worked on qt5 alpha1 | 11:53 |
rcg | hey faenil :) | 11:56 |
rcg | how are your studies going? | 11:56 |
faenil | rcg, eh, going :D | 11:56 |
rcg | right right, am not going to ask more ;) | 11:57 |
rcg | btw. Stskeeps, just in case it was too late yesterday: http://ruedigergad.com/2012/10/03/nemo-apps-on-plasma-active-improved-look-and-feel/ | 11:57 |
faenil | rcg, attending lessons is always boring...unless you have a super cool prof | 11:57 |
Stskeeps | rcg: screenshots? | 11:57 |
rcg | the patches are pretty "brute-force" but i really like the result | 11:57 |
faenil | rcg, read that article :) | 11:57 |
rcg | Stskeeps: ah, right.. you got me.. really need to make some :) | 11:57 |
rcg | faenil: thanks :) | 11:58 |
faenil | rcg, didn't say it was nice...lol | 11:58 |
faenil | jk ;) | 11:58 |
rcg | ah, i read "nice" ;) | 11:58 |
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rcg | well am kinda tired today | 11:58 |
faenil | :) | 11:58 |
rcg | Stskeeps: will make some screenshots for sure | 11:59 |
FlameReaper | on an unrelated note, flash 10 was well-done | 11:59 |
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faenil | lesson starting soon, bbl people ;) | 12:03 |
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Sfiet_Konstantin | ++ fabo | 12:05 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | sorry fabo | 12:05 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | it was for faenil that left | 12:05 |
Stskeeps | fabo deserves a lot of ++ though | 12:05 |
Stskeeps | :P | 12:05 |
fabo | :) | 12:06 |
* lbt doesn't understand why modprobe --force vboxsf fails | 12:07 | |
Stskeeps | are you building agaisnt the right kernel as the ones you're using? | 12:07 |
lbt | yeah - I had to branch CE:adaptation as the -devel package depends on hardlink which we don't have | 12:08 |
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lbt | hmm kernel-headers-2.6.37-1.3.i486 | 12:15 |
Stskeeps | ignore that | 12:15 |
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lbt | yeah - I make modules with KERN_DIR=/usr/src/kernels/3.0.0-5.1-adaptation-pc make | 12:15 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: prerelease please | 12:45 |
lbt | aye | 12:46 |
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lbt | running | 12:49 |
Stskeeps | thanks | 12:49 |
lbt | mmm new rpm 4.10.1 released | 12:50 |
Stskeeps | not in this release | 12:51 |
Stskeeps | :P | 12:51 |
Stskeeps | but yeah, it's on my list | 12:51 |
lbt | *g* | 12:51 |
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lbt | nice .. can kinda-loopback mount a .vdi file using qemu-nbd | 12:56 |
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lbt | ok modules loaded - I'll guess we have CONFIG force_modules unset | 13:16 |
lbt | which is probably a bad thing if we're going to include the OBS CI_CNT into the kernel version magic | 13:17 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: status on prerelease? | 16:31 |
lbt | looks like it finished just fine | 16:34 |
Stskeeps | ok | 16:34 |
Stskeeps | cobs import? | 16:34 |
Stskeeps | (and thank you) | 16:34 |
lbt | not yet - been buried in vbox | 16:34 |
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lbt | which is looking positive btw - kernel modules installed now and mount utility built | 16:35 |
Stskeeps | good | 16:35 |
lbt | just trying to figure out the spec to package them now | 16:35 |
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Stskeeps | i wouldn't mind the vbox xorg driver either, but that's for bonus points | 16:37 |
Stskeeps | :P | 16:37 |
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lbt | ok | 16:40 |
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lbt | vboxvideo_drm module is there already - I removed the Xorg depends and just do a minimal make at the moment | 16:42 |
lbt | /usr/bin/kmk -j8 VBOX_GCC_WERR= KBUILD_VERBOSE=2 VBOX_WITH_REGISTRATION_REQUEST= VBOX_WITH_UPDATE_REQUEST= TOOL_YASM_AS=nasm VBOX_PATH_PACKAGE_DOCS=/usr/share/doc/packages/virtualbox VBOX_ONLY_ADDITIONS=1 /home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/VirtualBox-4.1.18/out/linux.x86/release/bin/additions/{mount.vboxsf,VBoxControl,VBoxService} vboxsf-mod | 16:42 |
Stskeeps | ok, good | 16:43 |
lbt | nb... yasm is shipped as a binary in the source - which is then removed by suse packaging - should I add the binary yasm as a Source1 or would you like yasm package | 16:43 |
lbt | if it's just for me I'll include the bin - if it's useful I'll copypac and clean up suse's pkg | 16:44 |
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* Sage_ is waiting for prerelease to cobs | 17:29 | |
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lbt | Sage_: it's running | 18:04 |
Stskeeps | lbt: http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20120920.0.3/builds/armv7hl/packages/armv7hl/ does not look good | 18:05 |
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hazchemix | hi guys. anyone can point me to latest mer vmdk image for virtualbox? | 18:13 |
hazchemix | i´ve tried http://stskeeps.subnetmask.net/mer/0.9/mer-x86-generic-image-v0.9.vmdk.zip but seems to be broken | 18:14 |
hazchemix | is there any mirror or something. or did the url changed | 18:14 |
Stskeeps | http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/ if you mean nemo | 18:14 |
Stskeeps | and 0.9 is old odl mer :) | 18:14 |
Sage_ | hazchemix: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#i586_Virtual_Machine is the guide | 18:14 |
hazchemix | cool thx. i will take a look | 18:15 |
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Superpelican | #action Superpelican wants infinite time, so he can contribute to Mer | 18:50 |
Stskeeps | clones also accepted | 18:55 |
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lbt | Stskeeps: should there be 114 mosh-servers running? | 19:20 |
lbt | Stskeeps: and have you cleaned up any space on monster? | 19:23 |
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lbt | anyhow - it seems it had run out of space on monster despite now having 42Gb free | 19:30 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: no, i don't follow disk space, i thought it was in the procedure | 19:41 |
lbt | it was - I checked and it was OK | 19:41 |
lbt | but the log has rsync: write failed on "/home/prjfetcher-mertools/release-tools/releases/0.20120920.0.3/builds/armv7hl/packages/armv7hl/ | 19:42 |
Stskeeps | interesting | 19:42 |
Stskeeps | ok, so prjfetcher-mertools needs to be monitored for space too | 19:42 |
Stskeeps | lbt: i'll take care of mosh myself | 19:42 |
lbt | I check them all | 19:42 |
Stskeeps | ok | 19:43 |
lbt | I really don't understand how it failed... | 19:43 |
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lbt | and the screen/shell setup is somehow screwy when in your account so I can't see end-of-lines | 19:44 |
lbt | usually not a problem as I do changelog in another screen | 19:44 |
Stskeeps | ok | 19:44 |
lbt | (prjfetcher account) | 19:44 |
Stskeeps | we should probably move releases off monster anyhow | 19:44 |
lbt | you read my mind | 19:45 |
lbt | if it was totally broken it would have higher prio :/ | 19:45 |
Stskeeps | well, what does it really need for it to move off there, we need to move gerrit sync targets and the releases.* webspace.. | 19:46 |
Stskeeps | and then we (also) need to move the place we generate releases and clean that up | 19:46 |
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lbt | I'll erase the release and do 0.20120920.0.4 | 19:52 |
Stskeeps | ok | 19:52 |
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