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| sonach | morning all | 01:01 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: Mer is booted on hi3716c to login prompt. The rootfs contains /system dir of ics. libc.so and libdl.so are replaced. So maybe it is ready for testing hybris | 02:10 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: another thing: I can not login to mer using either 'mer' or 'root'. it is odd :P | 02:11 |
| sonach | the ks file shows that the passwords for 'mer' and 'root ' are all 'rootme', but can not login. | 02:12 |
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| iekku | morning | 03:27 |
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| kulve | vgrade: I tried to accept your sr, but I'm just getting (even after a retry): "We're sorry but the system is currently not able to handle your request in a reasonable time. Please try again later." | 04:12 |
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| Stskeeps | sonach: might be /etc/securetty | 05:02 |
| situ | Morning everyone | 05:03 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 05:03 |
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| Bostik | morning | 05:12 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: qtwebkit still causing headaches? | 05:13 |
| Bostik | aye | 05:13 |
| Bostik | just spun a new approach, let's see how it does | 05:13 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 05:13 |
| Bostik | if this fails, then it's time to start tormenting build.ci.mer | 05:13 |
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| sonach | Stskeeps: hey, I check /etc/securetty, it is OK, that is, I have added 'ttyAMA0' to /etc/securetty, and make the software link to 'serial-getty@.service', | 06:17 |
| Stskeeps | ok, still doesn't work? | 06:17 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: yes, just can not login, but can see the login prompt, | 06:17 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 06:17 |
| Stskeeps | try with the non-root user and use su? | 06:18 |
| Stskeeps | i gtg, business meeting | 06:18 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: 'mer' is the non-root user, but can not login, | 06:18 |
| sonach | ok, we can discuss this when you have time :) | 06:19 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: the mer release for build the rootfs is 0.20120920.1. And I just add support three features(CGROUPS/DEVTMPFS/VT) base off hi3716c_ics_defconfig for kernel building. | 06:25 |
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| vgrade | morning | 06:50 |
| vgrade | kulve: ok, lbt said last night he was going to melt cobs :) | 06:50 |
| kulve | vgrade: you could also directly work in the CE:A:RPi as there's not users for it yet and people don't expect it to be stable | 06:52 |
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| vgrade | kulve: doing the sr was goog practice for me | 06:58 |
| kulve | vgrade: sure. I haven't done that yet :) | 06:59 |
| vgrade | kulve: just osc branch the package you want to change. Do changes, test then sr the package back | 07:00 |
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| vgrade | kulve: let me know if you can't accept later | 07:00 |
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| kulve | vgrade: well, I was about to try again but according to the log there I've already accepted it twice.. | 07:05 |
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| lbt | kulve: COBS is very busy but should be working fine for SRs - jobs will just take a while to build | 08:07 |
| lbt | morning all | 08:08 |
| kulve | lbt: well, it didn't :) | 08:09 |
| Bostik | very busy indeed, something seems to have queued a full rebuild cycle | 08:10 |
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| lbt | yay ... phost5 is back :) | 08:17 |
| lbt | Bostik: yesterday was our planned release day | 08:17 |
| lbt | and .... | 08:17 |
| lbt | <shock> | 08:18 |
| lbt | we released! | 08:18 |
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| lbt | kulve: OK what SR ? | 08:21 |
| kulve | lbt: it was slow and timeoutted twice and asked to retry later. A moment ago I noticed that the SR was accepted twice even though it said that it failed. So no problems anymore but it didn't "work just fine". | 08:23 |
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| lbt | that depends on whether your definition of "just fine" includes "eventually gets there with much clanking, screeching and groaning" ? | 08:24 |
| lbt | today, mine does :) | 08:24 |
| Bostik | lbt: congrats (I guess) | 08:26 |
| lbt | Bostik: we do it every month - usually a week or two later than hoped for :) | 08:26 |
| Bostik | har | 08:26 |
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| * auri__ sips coffee and hopes that the image build went through | 08:43 | |
| lbt | auri__: hey | 08:44 |
| auri__ | lbt: morning | 08:44 |
| lbt | you would not believe :) | 08:44 |
| auri__ | ? | 08:44 |
| lbt | the physical server our img service is on went down last night - it's a sponsored one and the admin only got in a few mins ago | 08:45 |
| lbt | I have the ks tested locally so I'm building now | 08:45 |
| lbt | do you have an account on merproject.org btw? | 08:46 |
| lbt | and meego.com | 08:46 |
| * auri__ thinks Murphy had a hand in this.. damn him! | 08:46 | |
| auri__ | ah! no.. Do I need one? | 08:46 |
| lbt | why not | 08:46 |
| auri__ | both or justmer? | 08:47 |
| lbt | bugs.merproject.org | 08:47 |
| auri__ | done.. also meego? | 08:48 |
| lbt | yes | 08:48 |
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| auri__ | ok done.. any specific mailing list that I should subscribe to? | 08:51 |
| lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Mailing_lists | 08:52 |
| rcg-work | morning | 09:00 |
| lbt | auri__: http://img.merproject.org/images//web/lbt/2-20121019-084649/ | 09:03 |
| lbt | get the bz2 - that's a compressed SDK vdi | 09:04 |
| lbt | it has no target yet | 09:04 |
| lbt | I am looking to put targets outside SDK which makes life easy for linux | 09:04 |
| lbt | I need a QtC with the sysroot though | 09:04 |
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| auri__ | moment | 09:05 |
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| auri__ | lbt: http://pastebin.com/hRvBetbi | 09:28 |
| auri__ | is there a minimum version of VBox that needs to be used? | 09:28 |
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| lbt | auri__: probably :) | 09:30 |
| lbt | auri__: I use 4.1.18 | 09:30 |
| lbt | just updating instructions too | 09:30 |
| auri__ | ok.. downloading 4.1.22 | 09:32 |
| auri__ | the latest one | 09:32 |
| lbt | OK | 09:33 |
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| lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox is updated | 09:45 |
| auri__ | lbt: no luck .. even the latest VBox gives the same error :( | 09:46 |
| lbt | auri__: ignore the nice info in the VM about the IP - I need to find a fix that only shows it in non-NAT mode | 09:46 |
| lbt | what error? | 09:46 |
| lbt | oh | 09:46 |
| lbt | silly me | 09:46 |
| auri__ | http://pastebin.com/Am7n0V6M | 09:47 |
| lbt | :/ | 09:47 |
| auri__ | I tried with the vdi that you uploaded as well as unzipping the bz2 (both are same but just wanted to check) | 09:48 |
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| lbt | auri__: redoing the image conversion on the server | 09:50 |
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| lbt | zipping | 09:51 |
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| lbt | done | 09:55 |
| auri__ | same link? | 09:56 |
| lbt | https://img.merproject.org/images/sdk/ | 09:56 |
| lbt | has md5sum too | 09:56 |
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| auri__ | :) | 09:57 |
| lbt | hey henrik, meet auri__ - he's working on QtC side. henrik is working on the web services to allow target mgmt | 09:58 |
| henrik__ | auri__: hi | 09:59 |
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| auri__ | henrik__: hi! | 09:59 |
| lbt | you're both having the same problem on vdi ... which rather suggests it's my fault :/ | 09:59 |
| auri__ | lbt: boohoo :'( 403 Forbidden | 09:59 |
| lbt | gah | 10:00 |
| lbt | try now | 10:00 |
| henrik__ | lbt: i just upgrade virtual box to 4.1.18 and it is still the same issue | 10:01 |
| lbt | henrik__: yep - it's either a corrupt raw image or a bad vdi conversion at my end | 10:02 |
| lbt | I'm rebuilding the image in case it still fails | 10:02 |
| henrik__ | lbt: ok. let us know when you have new image available | 10:02 |
| lbt | henrik__: is that with the 'new' vdi https://img.merproject.org/images/sdk/ | 10:03 |
| lbt | different md5sum | 10:03 |
| lbt | actually- let auri__ check it first | 10:03 |
| auri__ | lbt: henrik__: +1 .. no error this time | 10:05 |
| lbt | yay | 10:06 |
| henrik__ | wee. i'll download it then as well | 10:06 |
| lbt | OK - that image was made by VboxManage convertor - 1st one was using qemu-img | 10:06 |
| lbt | which I think is a bit old on that machine - next Mer release has updated qemu-img so I can do it reliably inside Mer | 10:07 |
| lbt | anyhow... details | 10:07 |
| auri__ | lbt: quick question .. is that bridged Adapter or NAT? (in the Setting Menu) | 10:09 |
| lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox | 10:10 |
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| auri__ | ok.. I needed to refresh the page :).. I had the older version of the wiki page | 10:11 |
| lbt | auri__: this will be part of the docs so we can start eating our own already | 10:11 |
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| Venemo_N9 | morning | 10:11 |
| lbt | and yeah - it's very fresh - I did it whilst building the imae | 10:11 |
| Venemo_N9 | :) | 10:11 |
| lbt | hey Venemo_N9 | 10:12 |
| Venemo_N9 | what's up lbt? :) | 10:12 |
| lbt | having fun on SDKs | 10:12 |
| Venemo_N9 | awesome :) | 10:12 |
| lbt | looking for sponsors for infra | 10:13 |
| lbt | releasing stuff | 10:13 |
| lbt | all good | 10:13 |
| Venemo_N9 | that's nice to see | 10:13 |
| auri__ | Is it "normal" to see "Received SIGUSR1" and repetetive "Welcome to emergency mode..." | 10:19 |
| auri__ | when booting up the virtual machine? | 10:19 |
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| lbt | hehe | 10:21 |
| lbt | no | 10:21 |
| lbt | but, you know, at least it boots :) | 10:22 |
| henrik__ | i have 73% downloaded... i'll let you know if i see similar issues | 10:24 |
| lbt | auri__: did you setup the 'home' ? | 10:25 |
| lbt | I will be using an alternative boot solution that will detect/report on that in a better way | 10:25 |
| auri__ | yes i did | 10:25 |
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| Bostik | damnit, even with forced 'CONFIG = release' the qtwebkit object files are still in "debug" path | 10:26 |
| auri__ | ah! ok.. Failed to mount /home/mersdk | 10:27 |
| auri__ | what di I do wrong? | 10:27 |
| auri__ | Should I symlink it? | 10:27 |
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| lbt | auri__: I wonder if guest additions are version specific | 10:28 |
| lbt | I really hope not! | 10:28 |
| lbt | nah, can't be | 10:28 |
| lbt | auri__: OK - so do you have console to SDK ? | 10:29 |
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| lbt | do : VBoxControl sharedfolder list | 10:30 |
| auri__ | sorry .. come again.. | 10:32 |
| lbt | in the vm do you have a root shell ? | 10:33 |
| auri__ | it doesnt boot up :).. so nope .. no shell | 10:33 |
| lbt | OK - it has emergency mode | 10:33 |
| lbt | so at the bottom of the VM window it should say "right ctrl" or similar | 10:34 |
| lbt | that's the vbox 'host key' | 10:34 |
| lbt | which is a bit like 'alt' | 10:34 |
| lbt | not sure what key they use on MacOS :) | 10:34 |
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| lbt | press "right-ctrl & F2 | 10:35 |
| lbt | should get you a login prompt | 10:35 |
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| lbt | auri__: ? | 10:37 |
| auri__ | :( | 10:38 |
| lbt | OK - so does the host key work? | 10:39 |
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| auri__ | brb | 10:48 |
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| auri__ | nope .. doesnt work for me | 10:51 |
| auri__ | lbt: ^ | 10:52 |
| auri__ | henrik__: any luck? | 10:53 |
| lbt | auri__: what doesn't work? | 10:54 |
| lbt | host key | 10:54 |
| henrik__ | npe. I have the same. and host key is not working | 10:54 |
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| lbt | so... step 1... make host key work :) | 10:54 |
| auri__ | well the host key works in the sense that I can switch between display modes via Host Key + C | 10:55 |
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| auri__ | but Host Key + F2 doesnt bring up a console | 10:55 |
| lbt | "on a Mac host, the default host key is the left Command key" | 10:55 |
| lbt | ah | 10:55 |
| lbt | OK | 10:55 |
| henrik__ | oh. i think this has somthing to do with virtual box upgrade. now the original image that used to work behaves the same | 10:56 |
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| lbt | ok | 10:56 |
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| auri__ | in that case lets default to dave's version .. its 4.1.18 I suppose | 10:57 |
| auri__ | I will give that a try | 10:57 |
| lbt | hmm | 10:57 |
| lbt | if you're getting a kernel booting then that's not needed | 10:58 |
| auri__ | ok.. | 10:58 |
| lbt | so | 10:58 |
| lbt | it does boot and systemd runs ? | 10:58 |
| lbt | but it fails to mount /home/mersdk | 10:59 |
| auri__ | looks like it | 10:59 |
| lbt | try : ssh root@localhost -p 2222 | 10:59 |
| auri__ | doesnt do anything | 11:01 |
| henrik__ | same here | 11:01 |
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| lbt | OK - yep | 11:03 |
| lbt | so the basic problem is that 'home' shared folder isn't working | 11:03 |
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| lbt | I can reproduce the problem and this needs to be more resilient | 11:03 |
| lbt | phdeswer will be delighted to know that at this moment in time I think systemd sucks | 11:04 |
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| lbt | so now I need to know why shared folders are not working on a Mac | 11:06 |
| lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/images/6/69/VboxSDK-sf.png | 11:07 |
| lbt | could there be any confusion there in the Mac version | 11:07 |
| auri__ | nope.. I am on a linux machine | 11:07 |
| auri__ | :) | 11:07 |
| henrik__ | systemd[1]: Unit srv-mer-targets.mount entered failed state. | 11:07 |
| henrik__ | lbt: is threre a way to capture vm boot mesage. | 11:08 |
| lbt | auri__: so how come your home mount fails? | 11:09 |
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| auri__ | will check after lunch | 11:16 |
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| lbt | auri__: call in 45m? | 11:16 |
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| lbt | auri__: OK ... so I setup my VM with a missing 'home' shared folder. Then it went into that bad boot cycle. Whilst it was still running I picked Devices/Shared folder and setup 'home' pointing to /home/<me> as a transient shared folder. The VM then booted normally | 11:21 |
| lbt | so I'm 100% sure you simply have a bad shared folder setting | 11:21 |
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| phdeswer | lbt, :) | 11:34 |
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| lbt | auri__: OK ... so ... high prio then :) | 12:35 |
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| auri__ | :) | 12:36 |
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| lbt | now... quick sanity check - you did use /home/auri or similar for your home dir ? | 12:39 |
| auri__ | yup /home/ajana | 12:39 |
| lbt | and your PC is plugged in? | 12:39 |
| lbt | *g* | 12:39 |
| auri__ | :) yup | 12:40 |
| auri__ | do I have to do anything about storage? | 12:41 |
| auri__ | I remember you had a dedicated disk | 12:42 |
| lbt | it's the /home/mersdk which is the issue | 12:42 |
| lbt | and that's simply mounting the "home" shared folder | 12:42 |
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| lbt | the "Folder Name" must be "home", not ajana | 12:43 |
| auri__ | yup.. Do I need any "Guest Additions" ? | 12:44 |
| lbt | no. preinstalled | 12:44 |
| lbt | sec | 12:44 |
| auri__ | http://picpaste.com/SharedFolder-QcuWWa8s.png | 12:45 |
| auri__ | no luck.. tried from the start as per wiki | 12:46 |
| lbt | what version of vbox | 12:47 |
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| auri__ | 4.1.22 r80657 | 12:48 |
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| lbt | OK - I think this may be the problem | 12:52 |
| auri__ | the VBox? | 12:53 |
| lbt | I suspect that the guest additions version must match the virtualbox host | 12:54 |
| auri__ | hmm wahts ur version? | 12:54 |
| lbt | 4.1.18 | 12:54 |
| auri__ | I will try that | 12:54 |
| auri__ | ok | 12:54 |
| lbt | standard debian version | 12:54 |
| lbt | hmm | 12:55 |
| lbt | my laptop is 4.1.12 | 12:55 |
| lbt | and the same VM boots on there | 12:55 |
| lbt | so maybe not - unless 4.1.22 changed the API | 12:55 |
| lbt | which seems unlikely if it works for my 2 versions | 12:55 |
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| auri__ | you never know! | 12:56 |
| auri__ | let me give it a run.. nothing much to do otherwise | 12:56 |
| lbt | heh ... I hope I have problems building QtC ... then I won't feel so bad :) | 12:56 |
| lbt | henrik__: how about you? | 12:58 |
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| lbt | auri__: I'm going to retest here | 13:04 |
| lbt | make sure that image has no typos etc | 13:04 |
| auri__ | k | 13:04 |
| lbt | hmm | 13:06 |
| lbt | could you add another shared folder called 'targets' to the VM | 13:07 |
| lbt | map it to somewhere with some space on your host | 13:07 |
| lbt | I use /srv/mer/targets | 13:08 |
| lbt | in fact, use that location | 13:08 |
| auri__ | ok | 13:08 |
| auri__ | brb.. need to log out and in | 13:09 |
| lbt | OK | 13:09 |
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| lbt | auri__: it looks like I built using my development kickstart | 13:12 |
| lbt | on the plus side you don't need to edit fstab | 13:13 |
| lbt | auri__: I think that may fix it | 13:15 |
| auri__ | passed the first hurdle but I cant ssh to the VM | 13:16 |
| lbt | yeah - it tells you the IP? | 13:16 |
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| lbt | auri__: it is the right IP but it's NAT so you need to ssh to localhost -p 2222 | 13:21 |
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| auri__ | sry.. Failed to mount /srv/mer/targets | 13:25 |
| auri__ | See 'systemctl status srv-mer-targets.mount' for details | 13:26 |
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| auri__ | now how do I run systemctl when I cannot even get a shell :( | 13:26 |
| lbt | indeed | 13:26 |
| auri__ | lbt: ^ | 13:27 |
| lbt | poweroff the VM | 13:27 |
| lbt | and check that /srv/mer/targets exists and is owned by you | 13:27 |
| auri__ | lbt: http://picpaste.com/Error-kcGNdLXL.png | 13:28 |
| lbt | ok - so what did you do to allow it to mount home? | 13:28 |
| auri__ | I created the folder /srv/mer/targets | 13:30 |
| lbt | ok and reboot the VM ? | 13:31 |
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| auri__ | ok looks like chown did the trick for targets | 13:32 |
| auri__ | but now same error for /home/mersdk | 13:33 |
| lbt | ok - pick a different folder for "home" | 13:33 |
| lbt | you don't use NFS or anything for /home do you? | 13:34 |
| auri__ | no I dont | 13:35 |
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| lbt | sanity checking :) | 13:36 |
| lbt | so, for now mkdir /srv/mer/ajana and chown it to you | 13:36 |
| lbt | then map that to 'home' | 13:36 |
| lbt | then reboot | 13:36 |
| auri__ | ok | 13:36 |
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| lbt | auri__: did that work? | 13:42 |
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| auri__ | http://picpaste.com/SharedFolders-5A9BsZSk.png and http://picpaste.com/Folders-GJIDPEIa.png and http://picpaste.com/Error01-YYfUcYXt.png | 13:44 |
| auri__ | nope.. what am i doing wrong ? :( | 13:44 |
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| lbt | I'm going to rewrite the service | 13:45 |
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| lbt | and it doesn't help that systemd (well, my basic setup with it) makes it really hard to access the VM | 13:46 |
| lbt | nothing looks wrong there | 13:46 |
| auri__ | :( hmm | 13:47 |
| lbt | the problem is that to access the VM vdi you need to run qemu-nbd and mount it using nbd module | 13:47 |
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| Jake9xx | lbt: I'll be updating the wiki pages today as I am doing a test install | 14:16 |
| lbt | hold off a few mins | 14:16 |
| lbt | building a new image | 14:16 |
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| Jake9xx | lbt: this will start in 2hrs or so no rush | 14:23 |
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| lbt | ok | 14:27 |
| lbt | auri__: in the meantime ... building QtC ? | 14:30 |
| auri__ | fingers crossed :) | 14:30 |
| auri__ | checkout 2.6 branch | 14:30 |
| auri__ | master is experimental | 14:30 |
| lbt | lets start with some urls :) | 14:30 |
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| auri__ | http://qt.gitorious.org/qt-creator | 14:32 |
| lbt | cloning | 14:33 |
| lbt | 2% | 14:33 |
| lbt | 4% | 14:33 |
| lbt | I'll be a while... | 14:34 |
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| * Stskeeps offers lbt a gigabit line made entirely out of shoelaces | 14:35 | |
| lbt | :) | 14:36 |
| lbt | I bought a 2nd ADSL line | 14:36 |
| lbt | and 2 ADSL cards that can do bondin | 14:36 |
| lbt | g | 14:36 |
| lbt | of course they're binary blob driven, out of tree and don't actually co-exist in the same machine | 14:36 |
| lbt | *grr* | 14:36 |
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| lbt | only spent about 10 mandays on that little problem so far... | 14:37 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: when making qtc remember to put -j<something> | 14:38 |
| lbt | 64? | 14:38 |
| Jake9xx | or it might take a while | 14:38 |
| * lbt hugs his SSD | 14:38 | |
| Jake9xx | lbt: or 1024, depends on the # of your cores | 14:38 |
| lbt | and quietly refuses to look at the COBS monitor which didn't even go red. it just went down | 14:39 |
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| Jake9xx | lbt: well.. my jolla laptop is connected via wlan->n9->elisa and this mer laptop is usb->n701->dna.. maybe I'm back on broadband by monday.. let's see | 14:41 |
| Jope | the jolla laptop has a cellmo built in | 14:42 |
| Jope | at least most of the ones we had are 3g capable | 14:42 |
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| Jake9xx | Jope: where is the sim? | 14:45 |
| Jope | you stick it under the battery | 14:53 |
| Jope | or well the end of the slot is visible there | 14:53 |
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| Jake9xx | ok, let's see | 14:57 |
| lbt | is anyone else having cobs webui issues? | 14:57 |
| Jake9xx | ssl_error_no_cypher_overlap ? | 14:59 |
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| lbt | no | 15:03 |
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| lbt | just really sluggish pages | 15:06 |
| lbt | now failing to upload on api | 15:06 |
| lbt | fe machines are practically idle | 15:07 |
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| lbt | possibly the 7Gb logfiles | 15:10 |
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| lbt | phaeron: ping | 15:21 |
| phaeron | lbt: pong | 15:21 |
| lbt | cobs is fucked up | 15:21 |
| lbt | can you bounce around some diagnostics with me | 15:22 |
| lbt | I can't push a 20Kb file | 15:22 |
| lbt | which I need for the SDK VM | 15:22 |
| phaeron | it was much more loaded some time ago https://build.pub.meego.com/monitor/old | 15:22 |
| phaeron | webui loads fine | 15:23 |
| lbt | yep | 15:23 |
| phaeron | dispatcher dead | 15:23 |
| lbt | I just stopped the dispatcher | 15:23 |
| lbt | manually | 15:23 |
| phaeron | ah | 15:23 |
| lbt | api is being hit hard | 15:23 |
| lbt | by rozhkov apparently | 15:23 |
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| lbt | not sure why - could just be a build in his area | 15:24 |
| Stskeeps | Jake9xx: using your indexer atm? | 15:24 |
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| phaeron | lbt: looking at logs | 15:28 |
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| * phaeron cant's see issues | 15:30 | |
| lbt | restarting dispatcher then | 15:31 |
| lbt | so why can't I post a 20kb file? | 15:33 |
| phaeron | I just downloaded a big kernel tar using osc. uploading a small package now | 15:33 |
| lbt | using SDK ? | 15:33 |
| lbt | can you update your SDK : run sdk-version to check the mer-core version | 15:34 |
| phaeron | well using osc | 15:34 |
| phaeron | not sdk | 15:34 |
| lbt | SDK osc | 15:35 |
| phaeron | ok will retry that | 15:35 |
| lbt | we played with m2crypto | 15:35 |
| lbt | then : sdkversion --sdk next --core <whatever> | 15:35 |
| phaeron | at least it's not the server | 15:35 |
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| auri__ | lbt: calling it a day... hopefully monday will be our lucky day | 15:42 |
| lbt | yeah | 15:42 |
| auri__ | whats the progress with QtC? | 15:42 |
| lbt | sorry | 15:42 |
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| lbt | cloning | 15:42 |
| lbt | any more instructions? | 15:42 |
| auri__ | nope.. jus tqmake -r && mk | 15:42 |
| auri__ | *qmake -r && mk | 15:43 |
| auri__ | make | 15:43 |
| auri__ | have a nice weekend.. | 15:43 |
| lbt | you said I needed to build Qt ? | 15:43 |
| auri__ | not really. you can install the qt-devel | 15:43 |
| lbt | OK | 15:43 |
| lbt | you too then | 15:43 |
| auri__ | just make sure you have qmake in your path | 15:43 |
| auri__ | Qt 4.8.3 (i think is the latest) | 15:44 |
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| vgrade | evening all | 17:44 |
| Stskeeps | evening vgrade | 17:44 |
| Stskeeps | how was your week? | 17:44 |
| vgrade | good | 17:44 |
| CosmoHill | hello | 17:44 |
| vgrade | lots of toys arrived this week, hw and sw | 17:45 |
| CosmoHill | my week has also been good :) | 17:45 |
| vgrade | CosmoHill: hi | 17:45 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: how was your trip | 17:45 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps: can we plan for the next step for Pi? | 17:46 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: well, what do you consider the next step? | 17:46 |
| vgrade | don't know really , you mentioned Qtwayland | 17:47 |
| Stskeeps | that's one way yes | 17:47 |
| Stskeeps | does eglfs work proper and SR's accepted? | 17:47 |
| vgrade | yup | 17:47 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 17:48 |
| vgrade | fixed the 1/2 size and bcm lib ref, totally using kulves package configs now | 17:48 |
| CosmoHill | my pi is still unloved | 17:48 |
| Stskeeps | you should put mer on it then | 17:48 |
| CosmoHill | I think i have an old mer on it | 17:48 |
| vgrade | git clone git://gitorious.org/qt/qtsensors.git | 17:49 |
| vgrade | woops | 17:49 |
| CosmoHill | git: command not found | 17:49 |
| * CosmoHill reads the channel topic for the first time | 17:50 | |
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| CosmoHill | when it's mer's birthday? | 17:52 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 17:52 |
| CosmoHill | it's sometime this month | 17:52 |
| vgrade | CosmoHill: I mentioned we should do something for it a while back | 17:52 |
| Stskeeps | 16 days ago it seems | 17:52 |
| CosmoHill | vgrade: I have your build on a SD card | 17:53 |
| Stskeeps | 03/10/11 | 17:53 |
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| vgrade | :) | 17:53 |
| vgrade | very early build | 17:53 |
| CosmoHill | tbh I'm pretty bored in the evenings now :( it would be cool to work on something and learn more HTML5 | 17:53 |
| * Stskeeps is happy mer has lasted a year | 17:54 | |
| vgrade | CosmoHill: don't think we have HTML5 | 17:54 |
| * CosmoHill hands everyone a cupcake with a candle in it | 17:54 | |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: does noy feel like a year | 17:54 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, feels like 5 ;) | 17:54 |
| VDVsx | Stskeeps, isn't mer technically much older than that ? if you count the maemo times :) | 17:57 |
| CosmoHill | the mer project is based in Reading? awesome | 17:57 |
| CosmoHill | I've been here a long time and this is the first time I've been on the website i think :/ | 17:57 |
| vgrade | VDVsx: it is, its what got me hooked with the O2 joggler ages ago | 17:57 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps: so whats involved in getting a wayland desktop up? | 17:58 |
| CosmoHill | vgrade: where can i download a pi image of mer? | 17:58 |
| vgrade | CosmoHill: sec, I'll get one uploading | 17:59 |
| CosmoHill | merci | 17:59 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade,in a train so have difficulties explaing properly | 17:59 |
| Stskeeps | a lot of latency | 17:59 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps: no probs we can chat anytime, ping me | 18:01 |
| vgrade | new chromebooks look nice | 18:04 |
| RaYmAn | very much so! <3 Cortex A15 :) | 18:08 |
| vgrade | RaYmAn: hi, armnetbook guys must be droolng | 18:08 |
| vgrade | what does Cros use for its gfx stack? | 18:09 |
| Stskeeps | last i saw.. x | 18:09 |
| Stskeeps | but i may be wrong | 18:09 |
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| vgrade | no hexxeh in here | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, he'd be good to ask | 18:11 |
| RaYmAn | vgrade: very much so I think :) Mali T6xx and such :) | 18:11 |
| RaYmAn | yeah, I think it's X iirc | 18:11 |
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| JohnMore | Hello everyone I'm new here have some questions on project Mer capabilities is anyone free for answering? | 18:40 |
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| Stskeeps | sure, always :) | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | feel free to ask at any time, too | 18:41 |
| JohnMore | thanks | 18:41 |
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| JohnMore | I'm checking out alternatives on Android after all the patent problems the manufacturers are seeing | 18:42 |
| JohnMore | paying comissions to microsoft or being sued by oracle | 18:42 |
| JohnMore | i loved the concept of project mer | 18:42 |
| JohnMore | and basically my question is | 18:42 |
| JohnMore | is Project Mer ready for primetime´ | 18:42 |
| JohnMore | ? | 18:42 |
| dm8tbr | it's just an operating system core | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | i'd like to think it is - but remember that Mer is just one part of the puzzle. Mer doesn't contain a UI or hardware adaptations | 18:43 |
| JohnMore | as in going against Android or iOS as a third alternative? | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | that is built on top | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | so what we do is enable others to do great things | 18:43 |
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| dm8tbr | think jolla | 18:43 |
| CosmoHill | hey dm8tbr | 18:43 |
| JohnMore | I understand that | 18:43 |
| dm8tbr | or plasmaactive | 18:43 |
| JohnMore | but at its core does project mer deal with things like multi-thread processing | 18:44 |
| Stskeeps | JohnMore: so it really depends on the use case too :) | 18:44 |
| JohnMore | harvesting hardware acceleration? | 18:44 |
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| Stskeeps | it basically gives you a core, ie, all the stuff you don't really want to deal with | 18:44 |
| vgrade | JohnMore: plasma active guys build on it, http://dot.kde.org/2012/10/15/plasma-active-3-improves-performance-brings-new-apps | 18:44 |
| Stskeeps | like system control, c libraries, QA systems/build farms, etc | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | and makes sure everything sticks together, works, and is secure | 18:45 |
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| JohnMore | I see | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | you can build a IVI system on top, a smart tv, a phone.. -- it's just a thing that makes life easier | 18:45 |
| vgrade | dm8tbr: is bug10738 still in service? | 18:45 |
| JohnMore | Tizen Jolla and Plasma Active are all based on project mer? | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | jolla, plasma active, but not tizen | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | tizen 2.0 stems from similar-ish starting point as mer though | 18:46 |
| JohnMore | so what are the project mer limitations? | 18:47 |
| JohnMore | as a starter package for a OS | 18:47 |
| JohnMore | non existent? | 18:47 |
| Stskeeps | well, the problem is always hardware adaptation availability - non-android adaptations are hard to get buy for reference devices | 18:48 |
| Stskeeps | but we have technology in works that has succesfully allowed us to leverage these | 18:48 |
| JohnMore | and what's the prevalent language for programming? | 18:48 |
| Stskeeps | it's really up to you :) we don't share a common app story | 18:48 |
| Stskeeps | and some software has one language, another has another | 18:49 |
| JohnMore | so theoretically | 18:49 |
| JohnMore | with a lot of work | 18:49 |
| JohnMore | you could build a mobile oriented OS with the same capabilities of say an iOS? | 18:49 |
| Stskeeps | correct | 18:50 |
| Stskeeps | wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo is a open source attempt at a smartphone OS, as an example | 18:50 |
| Stskeeps | the thing is that everybody disagrees on how to do a mobile OS, so we work together in Mer on the parts we do agree on :) | 18:50 |
| JohnMore | lol | 18:50 |
| JohnMore | I see | 18:50 |
| Stskeeps | because every non android linux mobile platform ends up looking similar anyway | 18:51 |
| JohnMore | and what are those core modules | 18:51 |
| JohnMore | is there a list somewhere? | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | gitweb.merproject.org may be good to browse through | 18:51 |
| JohnMore | and being MeeGo based | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | and wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Architecture explains some of the architectural choices | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | mer isn't only code though, it's also test sets, QA tools, build farms, etc | 18:53 |
| Stskeeps | SDKs, image creators, packaging helpers, .. and so on | 18:53 |
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| rcg | plus all the helpful beings hanging e.g. around here :) | 18:54 |
| JohnMore_ | sorry my connection has seemed to fail | 18:54 |
| rcg | like Stskeeps etc. | 18:54 |
| JohnMore_ | I was asking if there could be any kind of patent problems with nokia | 18:54 |
| JohnMore_ | being meego based | 18:54 |
| JohnMore_ | or am i just being paranoid? | 18:54 |
| Stskeeps | JohnMore_, i'll catch you up with a link to our irc logs, moment | 18:55 |
| JohnMore_ | thanks | 18:55 |
| Stskeeps | http://merproject.org/logs/%23mer/%23mer.2012-10-19.log.html | 18:55 |
| JohnMore_ | i'm using irc on the browser (been a while since I had a real irc client aka mIRC) | 18:55 |
| rcg | uhm Stskeeps while you have that link, could you update the topic accordingly? | 18:55 |
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| Stskeeps | regarding patents - for various reasons i don't want to discuss exact patents, but you have to remember that what mer truly is, is basically linux suited for mobile.. all the UI stuff is where the really challenging parts are | 18:56 |
| JohnMore_ | so theoretically | 18:56 |
| Stskeeps | ie, mer may actually have less problematics than a typical ubuntu, which delivers a UI along | 18:56 |
| JohnMore_ | with a different UI approach | 18:56 |
| JohnMore_ | mer could be troll patent free? | 18:57 |
| Stskeeps | i think that may be a dream only, but it would certainly have different issues | 18:58 |
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| Stskeeps | personally i want mer to enable small to medium businesses | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | make them able to go from prototype to product fast | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | with new exciting and innovative devices, uis | 18:58 |
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| rcg | any op here to update the link to the irc logs mentioned in the channel topic? | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | i'll do it.. | 18:59 |
| rcg | great :) | 18:59 |
| JohnMore_ | that's exactly what we wanted | 19:00 |
| JohnMore_ | so that we can get to market quickly with our product | 19:00 |
| JohnMore_ | may I ask your opinion on Jolla and plasma active? | 19:00 |
| JohnMore_ | are they strong mature os's? | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | JohnMore_: so what do you hope to hope to do with mer, out of curiousity? | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | JohnMore_: personally i work with jolla, but at same time i'm mer project architect. Jolla will showcase their UX (commercial company, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolla ) next month | 19:01 |
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| Stskeeps | JohnMore_: plasma active is part of KDE community and is a good open source project | 19:02 |
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| JohnMore_ | Sorry Stskeeps how can I answer you privately from my browser? | 19:02 |
| Stskeeps | JohnMore_: ah, if you can't answer in public it's fine :) just pondering general field | 19:02 |
| Stskeeps | i would encourage you to investigate mer a little deeper, look at the technologies involved, the SDK, documentation, community, etc | 19:03 |
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| Stskeeps | and naturally look at other offerings around so you can compare | 19:03 |
| JohnMore_ | Stskeeps I would love to chat some more with you in private | 19:03 |
| JohnMore_ | is there any way we can do it? | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | JohnMore_: write /query Stskeeps | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | but be aware i'm in a train and i loose connection once in a while :) | 19:03 |
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| JohnMore__ | mr Stskeeps are you still there ? | 19:17 |
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| iekku | eh | 19:18 |
| CosmoHill | hey iekku | 19:20 |
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| iekku | ahoy CosmoHill | 19:34 |
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| Jake9xx | lbt: I'll be at office tomorrow, this connection speed is driving me nuts. One question : are we now using chroot x86 image or vm one? | 20:12 |
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| CosmoHill | vgrade: any word on that pi image yet? | 20:53 |
| CosmoHill | cat_x301: how many devices do you have? | 20:53 |
| phaeron | lbt: ping | 20:54 |
| vgrade | having dropbox issues, had to install the liunx client as the web interface crashed my browser | 20:54 |
| vgrade | 1 min left | 20:54 |
| CosmoHill | cool | 20:54 |
| CosmoHill | I've not used dropbox in a while | 20:55 |
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| CosmoHill | have you guys heard of basecamp or teamlab? | 20:57 |
| vgrade | CosmoHill: no | 20:58 |
| CosmoHill | they're web based project management tools | 20:59 |
| vgrade | https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Public/rasp-pi/pi-qt5-plugin.img.gz?w=984a37bc | 20:59 |
| CosmoHill | we started using teamlab at work | 20:59 |
| CosmoHill | error 403 | 21:00 |
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| cat_x301 | CosmoHill: err.. you mean a10 devices or in general? :) | 21:04 |
| CosmoHill | the former...then the later :p | 21:04 |
| cat_x301 | CosmoHill: 1 to 10 maybe.. need to count really :D | 21:05 |
| CosmoHill | you sound like me | 21:05 |
| CosmoHill | i can probably reach double figures by just counting the ones in sit | 21:06 |
| CosmoHill | sight* | 21:06 |
| cat_x301 | today got one more, tp-link 3020 | 21:06 |
| vgrade | dropbox fail, please wait... | 21:06 |
| CosmoHill | *elevator music* | 21:07 |
| vgrade | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5715485/rasp-pi/pi-qt5-plugin.img.gz | 21:10 |
| CosmoHill | that's downloading | 21:12 |
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| vgrade | qmlscene -platform eglfsrpi *.qml | 21:14 |
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| * CosmoHill blinks | 21:14 | |
| CosmoHill | yes master? | 21:15 |
| vgrade | in particles, qt-cinematic, minimer dirs | 21:15 |
| CosmoHill | once I've booted it? | 21:16 |
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| vgrade | CosmoHill: you need to ctrl alt F2 to get a login (root/rootme), then init 3 to stop uxlaunch trying to launch X | 21:18 |
| CosmoHill | okay, about 6 mins to download | 21:19 |
| vgrade | teamlab restricted to 10MB upload | 21:20 |
| CosmoHill | i believe you can upgrade | 21:21 |
| vgrade | and link to dropbox | 21:23 |
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| * CosmoHill gets out his pi for the first time in months | 21:46 | |
| vgrade | :) | 21:48 |
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| CosmoHill | time sudo dd if=~/Downloads/pi-qt5-plugin.img of=/dev/disk1 bs=4096 | 21:51 |
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| vgrade | CosmoHill: . | 21:51 |
| vgrade | CosmoHill: .. | 21:52 |
| vgrade | CosmoHill: ... | 21:52 |
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| CosmoHill | ? | 21:53 |
| CosmoHill | yeah it's slow | 21:53 |
| vgrade | CosmoHill: I've gone grey waiting for images. We should try nfs | 21:57 |
| ali1234 | tip: if dd'ing to a usb flash drive or sd card, set the io scheduler for the device to deadline or noop | 21:58 |
| CosmoHill | I bought a 16GB class 10 SD card | 21:58 |
| ali1234 | anything but CFS basically | 21:58 |
| CosmoHill | but I never opened it until last month and used it on my camera | 21:58 |
| CosmoHill | it's got like 200 touring car pics and videos on here | 21:58 |
| ali1234 | echo deadline | tee /sys/block/sdb/queue/scheduler | 21:58 |
| ali1234 | er, sudo tee | 21:58 |
| vgrade | ali1234: \o | 21:59 |
| ali1234 | see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1030516 | 21:59 |
| Merbot | Ubuntu bug 1030516 in linux (Ubuntu) "152d:2338 High IO when writing to USB devices" [High,Expired] | 21:59 |
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| CosmoHill | ali1234: cool, on a mac here | 21:59 |
| ali1234 | well, then you're beyond help :) | 21:59 |
| CosmoHill | seems so | 22:00 |
| CosmoHill | it's a 7 year old laptop with a ppc processor | 22:00 |
| ali1234 | maybe it has something similar, i dunno. or maybe the image is just hude | 22:00 |
| ali1234 | it used to take me like 2 hours to write the mer/n900 images to SD card, and the computer would hang all the time while doing it | 22:01 |
| CosmoHill | sod that | 22:01 |
| CosmoHill | I wish I used the class 10 now | 22:01 |
| ali1234 | was nothing to do with the SD card, it was linux trying to prematurely optimize the writes | 22:02 |
| ali1234 | which is unnecessary on a flash based device | 22:02 |
| CosmoHill | it would be cool if we cos do some kinda rsync updatre | 22:04 |
| vgrade | stores the echo deadline | 22:04 |
| vgrade | but is past the point of going grey | 22:05 |
| ali1234 | also nfs is great when you're doing build/reboot/test constantly | 22:05 |
| vgrade | ali1234: we should get that working for mer | 22:05 |
| ali1234 | i like to use gentoo to get an absolute minimal userspace for testing kernel stuff, plus i can chroot to it easily to build new packages i need on the fly on the build machine | 22:05 |
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| ali1234 | well, for x86 work i can. not so much for arm | 22:06 |
| ali1234 | yeah would be nice if mer had like a nfs-kickstart or something | 22:07 |
| ali1234 | i dunno, if kickstart handles that stuff? ie write to the export directory rather than an image? | 22:08 |
| vgrade | mic can do fs | 22:08 |
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| ali1234 | gentoo is great for this because the procedure is always the same. untar base, chroot, ... | 22:10 |
| ali1234 | just do it in the nfs folder instead of the root of the partition | 22:10 |
| ali1234 | and by definitio it's self hosting so you don't need anything outside the chroot cluttering up your dev machine :) | 22:10 |
| ali1234 | so what's the default hardware adaptation for mer x86? | 22:11 |
| CosmoHill | sudo kill -INFO 654 | 22:12 |
| CosmoHill | 2199814144 bytes transferred in 1299.781764 secs (1692449 bytes/sec) | 22:12 |
| CosmoHill | :) | 22:12 |
| CosmoHill | i think on linux it's USR1 | 22:13 |
| ali1234 | yes | 22:13 |
| ali1234 | or use the dd-with-progress-bar thing | 22:13 |
| CosmoHill | about 1/3 done | 22:15 |
| vgrade | ali https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=CE%3AAdaptation%3Ax86-generic | 22:15 |
| ali1234 | there was never a 64 bit version, right? | 22:16 |
| ali1234 | and i still need i486 for amd (not bulldozer) | 22:16 |
| CosmoHill | amd i486? | 22:16 |
| ali1234 | the SSSE4 stuff... | 22:17 |
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| CosmoHill | i was thinking proper i486 | 22:17 |
| ali1234 | well, last i checked, i586 doesn't actually mean anything officially | 22:17 |
| ali1234 | in meego it meant core2 or better, specifically needing SSSE4 that AMD chips didn't have | 22:18 |
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| ali1234 | and mer i486 is much more generic and should work on a real 486 in theory, i think | 22:18 |
| vgrade | ali1234: mer should not have the same restrictions, pign lbt, Stskeeps if you need another arch | 22:19 |
| CosmoHill | http://black-flag.co.uk/files/meego-on-p4.jpg | 22:19 |
| ali1234 | vgrade: Stskeeps and i made the i486 packages, and this was the state back then | 22:19 |
| ali1234 | actually it only needed two patches, one in gcc and one in glibc, iirc | 22:20 |
| ali1234 | and basically "just worked" | 22:20 |
| vgrade | CosmoHill: i remember that one | 22:20 |
| CosmoHill | :0 | 22:20 |
| ali1234 | yeah. notice that the UI doesn't work :) | 22:21 |
| CosmoHill | or rpm | 22:21 |
| CosmoHill | no, rpm did work but zypper didn't | 22:22 |
| ali1234 | lots of stuff, since glibc had all the hardcoded optimizations | 22:22 |
| vgrade | ali1234: meego wanted you to use Atom | 22:22 |
| ali1234 | i don't think gcc ever generated any SSSE4 instructions | 22:22 |
| ali1234 | vgrade: yep, i know, i was there :) | 22:22 |
| CosmoHill | not long to go | 22:23 |
| vgrade | CosmoHill: ..... | 22:23 |
| CosmoHill | yeah | 22:23 |
| CosmoHill | I'd probably want to go to bed once it's done tho | 22:24 |
| vgrade | http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20012421, dirty Leeds | 22:25 |
| CosmoHill | 404, dirty bbc | 22:26 |
| ali1234 | remove , | 22:27 |
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| CosmoHill | what's the channel rules on swearing? | 22:29 |
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| CosmoHill | real39m55.926s | 22:30 |
| CosmoHill | about time | 22:30 |
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| vgrade | boots ? | 22:33 |
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| CosmoHill | it boots | 22:37 |
| CosmoHill | couldn't find my usb charger | 22:37 |
| CosmoHill | how old is this image? | 22:38 |
| CosmoHill | i'm at the boot screen | 22:42 |
| vgrade | good | 22:42 |
| vgrade | d | 22:42 |
| CosmoHill | get something like "failed to write entry, ignoring: argument list too long" | 22:42 |
| vgrade | have you logged in root/rootme | 22:43 |
| CosmoHill | no, I was looking for that instructions in my log | 22:43 |
| vgrade | ctrl alt F2 | 22:43 |
| CosmoHill | I'm in | 22:44 |
| vgrade | init 3 | 22:44 |
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| CosmoHill | done | 22:44 |
| vgrade | to stop uxlaunch trying to start x | 22:44 |
| CosmoHill | would that be the annoying error that repeats? | 22:44 |
| vgrade | you then should have minimer dir | 22:45 |
| CosmoHill | yep | 22:45 |
| vgrade | once in qmlscene -platform eglfsrpi *.qml | 22:46 |
| CosmoHill | oooo | 22:46 |
| vgrade | and similar in particles and cinematic dirs | 22:47 |
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| CosmoHill | 62 / 63fps | 22:47 |
| vgrade | you can edit the qml and change the parameters of the zoon, rotate | 22:49 |
| vgrade | i still glance down at the tiny board amd think wow | 22:50 |
| vgrade | and not amd | 22:51 |
| CosmoHill | hehe | 22:52 |
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| vgrade | time for bed here, hope the dl was worth it | 22:53 |
| CosmoHill | it was, thanks :) | 22:53 |
| vgrade | crevetor: hi, just been testing the pi mer build with CosmoHill | 22:53 |
| CosmoHill | vgrade: I should sent you my .vimrc file | 22:54 |
| vgrade | crevetor: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5715485/rasp-pi/pi-qt5-plugin.img.gz | 22:55 |
| CosmoHill | how do I get one of them to run full screen | 22:56 |
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| vgrade | check the logs CosmoHill the image i posted was a wip | 22:58 |
| CosmoHill | to the logs! *batman music* | 22:58 |
| vgrade | there is a new repo which includes a version which does fullscreen | 22:58 |
| vgrade | I'll post later if thats OK | 23:00 |
| CosmoHill | sure | 23:00 |
| CosmoHill | good work btw | 23:02 |
| vgrade | CosmoHill: just edit main.qml for minimer | 23:02 |
| CosmoHill | I've changed the width and height to that of my monitor | 23:03 |
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| vgrade | I have a 1/2 scale in that image | 23:05 |
| vgrade | for testing | 23:05 |
| vgrade | catch you tommorow | 23:05 |
| CosmoHill | cyas | 23:05 |
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