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situ | How do I specify build dependency on qt5 quick1 module in my yaml file (what names should I use with BuildRequires attribute) ? | 08:44 |
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Uninstall | Stskeeps: gcc has been updated | 09:28 |
Stskeeps | oki, i think that'll be next step when we've solved the eglibc fallout | 09:29 |
Uninstall | Stskeeps: I will also take care of it todat | 09:37 |
Uninstall | *today | 09:37 |
Stskeeps | oki | 09:38 |
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Uninstall | Stskeeps: Updated: http://review.merproject.org/#change,1583 | 10:31 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:31 |
Uninstall | sorry, wrong link | 10:31 |
Stskeeps | packaging looks good though | 10:32 |
Uninstall | wait a second | 10:32 |
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Uninstall | Stskeeps: http://review.merproject.org/#change,1603 | 10:32 |
Uninstall | Stskeeps: http://review.merproject.org/#patch,sidebyside,1603,1,glibc-arm-runfast.patch | 10:33 |
Stskeeps | looks sane | 10:34 |
Stskeeps | i'll merge | 10:34 |
Uninstall | cool, ok, thank you | 10:35 |
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Uninstall | Stskeeps: where I can check how the build process is going? | 10:39 |
Stskeeps | build.merproject.org -> projects -> devel level of mer | 10:40 |
Uninstall | Stskeeps: https://build.merproject.org/project/show?project=mer-core%3Adevel | 10:42 |
Uninstall | right? | 10:42 |
Stskeeps | yeah, and the individual builds | 10:42 |
Stskeeps | such as https://build.merproject.org/project/show?project=mer-core%3Ai486%3Adevel | 10:42 |
Uninstall | ok, thank you | 10:43 |
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Stskeeps | Uninstall: https://build.merproject.org/package/live_build_log?arch=armv8el&package=glibc&project=mer-core%3Aarmv7hl%3Adevel&repository=Core_armv7hl | 11:11 |
Stskeeps | i think this was about that we forgot to pass $Ports or soemthing like that | 11:11 |
Uninstall | I didn't touch anything about thart | 11:12 |
Uninstall | *that | 11:12 |
Stskeeps | i had fixed that though, hrm.. sec | 11:12 |
Uninstall | ok, cool | 11:12 |
Stskeeps | ah right | 11:13 |
Stskeeps | --enable-add-ons=libidn,nptl --without-cvs $EnableKernel \ | 11:13 |
Stskeeps | this one should have $AddOns in the end | 11:13 |
Uninstall | I think nptl should be the last one | 11:14 |
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Stskeeps | - --enable-add-ons=nptl$AddOns --without-cvs $EnableKernel \ | 11:14 |
Stskeeps | + --enable-add-ons=libidn,nptl --without-cvs $EnableKernel \ | 11:14 |
Stskeeps | from your original patch | 11:15 |
Stskeeps | adding $AddOns should do the trick | 11:16 |
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Uninstall | Stskeeps: are you going to do that? | 11:26 |
Uninstall | or do I need to do that? | 11:26 |
Stskeeps | if you can it'd be nice, then i can take care of integration part | 11:26 |
Uninstall | ok | 11:26 |
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Uninstall | Stskeeps: http://review.merproject.org/#change,1604 | 11:36 |
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Stskeeps | thanks | 11:37 |
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Stskeeps | Uninstall: https://build.merproject.org/package/live_build_log?arch=armv8el&package=glibc&project=mer-core%3Aarmv7hl%3Adevel&repository=Core_armv7hl | 11:47 |
Uninstall | Stskeeps: ../ports/sysdeps/arm/sysdeps/../nptl/pthread_spin_lock.c:23:47: error: #include nested too deeply | 11:47 |
Stskeeps | wow | 11:48 |
Stskeeps | :P | 11:48 |
Uninstall | I've been faster than you :P | 11:48 |
Stskeeps | anyway, i'm not sure how to solve that particular issue, i'd assume that eglibc builds for arm | 11:48 |
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Uninstall | Stskeeps: uhm... I have no clue with this issue, it needs to be investigated | 11:49 |
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Stskeeps | oki | 11:49 |
fk_lx | #include nested too deeply sounds like not a typical everyday error ;-) | 11:50 |
Uninstall | https://build.merproject.org/package/live_build_log?arch=i586&package=glibc&project=mer-core%3Ai586%3Adevel&repository=Core_i586 | 11:50 |
Uninstall | it failed also here | 11:50 |
Stskeeps | indeed | 11:51 |
Stskeeps | and it worked just before | 11:51 |
Stskeeps | that's curious | 11:51 |
Uninstall | Stskeeps: I know this issue | 11:51 |
Uninstall | it is realted to nptl | 11:51 |
Uninstall | Stskeeps: can you paste the configure line from the log? | 11:52 |
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Stskeeps | -> "Download logfile" for future fwiw | 11:53 |
Uninstall | Stskeeps: yes, I know, it asks me the password | 11:53 |
Stskeeps | just use obs login there (the mer one) | 11:53 |
Stskeeps | ie one for bugzilla | 11:53 |
Uninstall | ah, ok, right | 11:53 |
Uninstall | Stskeeps: anyway ubuntu enables nptl doing something --foobar=libidn,"nptl " | 11:55 |
Stskeeps | uhh | 11:55 |
Stskeeps | :P | 11:55 |
Uninstall | so the issue might be ralated to that stuff | 11:56 |
Stskeeps | do they add anything for ports for arm? | 11:58 |
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Uninstall | Stskeeps: I don't think so | 12:02 |
Stskeeps | hmm | 12:02 |
Stskeeps | i should look at their packaging | 12:02 |
Uninstall | Stskeeps: we should check their package | 12:02 |
Stskeeps | i like you, you think like me | 12:02 |
Stskeeps | :P | 12:02 |
Uninstall | :) | 12:04 |
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Uninstall | Stskeeps: sysdeps/arm.mk:libc_add-ons = ports nptl $(add-ons) | 12:13 |
Stskeeps | interesting | 12:14 |
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Stskeeps | Uninstall: no solutions from my side yet | 13:03 |
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notmart | hi all | 13:42 |
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notmart | in plasma active we would need a second top level project on build.merproject.org (besides kde:), is it possible/how is the procedure? | 13:43 |
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Uninstall | notmart: what do you mean? | 13:56 |
notmart | Uninstall: basically that i need https://build.merproject.org/project/show?project=bodega:foo | 13:57 |
notmart | a "bodega" project created at the root of that obs instance | 13:58 |
Stskeeps | notmart: shouldn't be impossible, who's admins? | 13:58 |
Uninstall | you just need to create bodega:foo and it should create bodega too | 13:58 |
Stskeeps | Uninstall: you can only make root projects as admins ;) | 13:59 |
sledges | Uninstall: that'll be in your home: | 13:59 |
Uninstall | oh, right | 13:59 |
* Uninstall is used too much to ispirata private OBS | 13:59 | |
Stskeeps | notmart: just need usernames to set it | 13:59 |
Uninstall | Stskeeps: any news on glibc? | 13:59 |
notmart | Stskeeps: that project would be managed by me and aseigo | 14:00 |
Stskeeps | Uninstall: no, got sidetracked, ended up at similar error, need to dig deeper | 14:00 |
Stskeeps | notmart: ok, usernames notmart and aseigo? | 14:00 |
Uninstall | ok,ok | 14:00 |
Uninstall | sorry, I've meant only one ok | 14:00 |
Uninstall | :D | 14:00 |
notmart | Stskeeps: yep | 14:00 |
Stskeeps | ok | 14:00 |
Uninstall | Stskeeps: by the way, isn't a better idea to build gcc before and to use an updated gcc to build glibc? | 14:01 |
Stskeeps | Uninstall: sometimes it is | 14:02 |
Stskeeps | i can try it out but i'm fairly sure we'd see similar errorrs | 14:02 |
Stskeeps | -r | 14:02 |
Uninstall | Stskeeps: ubuntu is using gcc 4.8 to build that eglibc version | 14:02 |
Stskeeps | ok | 14:02 |
Uninstall | Stskeeps: keep in mind that some headers exported from gcc have been changed | 14:02 |
Stskeeps | notmart: https://build.merproject.org/project/users?project=bodega | 14:03 |
Stskeeps | have fun | 14:03 |
notmart | Stskeeps: tank you very much :) | 14:03 |
Uninstall | Stskeeps: talking about gcc there is just one little part that is missing | 14:04 |
Uninstall | on current mer gcc atom is forced as arch for i586 | 14:04 |
Stskeeps | yes | 14:04 |
Uninstall | and I didn't forwardport that change to 4.8 | 14:04 |
Stskeeps | mm | 14:04 |
Stskeeps | lemme take a look | 14:05 |
Uninstall | ok | 14:06 |
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Stskeeps | so in a quick guess i would think that it is possible to do this with --with-tune=atom --with-arch=core2 --with-fpmath=sse | 14:09 |
Stskeeps | in configure | 14:09 |
Stskeeps | wouldn't you think? | 14:09 |
Uninstall | I should take a look to gcc configure | 14:09 |
Uninstall | wait a second (running: tar xf) | 14:10 |
Stskeeps | that patch is lousy in the first place | 14:10 |
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Uninstall | I don't see any --with-tune | 14:10 |
Stskeeps | hmmm | 14:11 |
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Stskeeps | http://gcc.gnu.org/install/configure.html | 14:11 |
Stskeeps | search --with-tune= | 14:11 |
Uninstall | ok, it makes sense | 14:11 |
Uninstall | are we have been using tune or arch before? | 14:12 |
Stskeeps | arch we've used in arm configures | 14:12 |
Stskeeps | so you should probably use similar method | 14:12 |
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Uninstall | Stskeeps: arch will set the minimum required architecture required by default | 14:13 |
Uninstall | tune will optimizing for something without breaking compatibility | 14:13 |
Stskeeps | nod | 14:13 |
Stskeeps | i586 is supposed to be 'atom and above' | 14:13 |
Stskeeps | in mer's architectures | 14:13 |
Stskeeps | we have i486 for everything else | 14:13 |
Stskeeps | admittedly i've considered if we need a saner approach there though | 14:14 |
Uninstall | Stskeeps: intel has released a new low power chip used on the new arduino galilelo | 14:16 |
Uninstall | *galileo | 14:16 |
Uninstall | the chipset is called quark If I remember correctly | 14:16 |
Uninstall | I would make sure that it is possible to run mer i586 on those chips | 14:16 |
Uninstall | arch=atom should be reasonable | 14:17 |
Stskeeps | it isn't, actually | 14:17 |
Stskeeps | quark has a pentium ISA | 14:17 |
Stskeeps | but yes, i agree | 14:17 |
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Stskeeps | i've considered to up the i486 baseline to pentium though | 14:18 |
Stskeeps | or make i586 'saner' | 14:19 |
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Uninstall | Stskeeps: I see | 14:19 |
Uninstall | quark will run only with mer:i486 | 14:20 |
Stskeeps | right | 14:20 |
Stskeeps | and even then it's underoptimized | 14:20 |
Uninstall | and not with mer:i586 | 14:20 |
Stskeeps | or simply add a %i486_optimization --with-tune= kind of thing | 14:20 |
Stskeeps | in prjconf | 14:20 |
Uninstall | Stskeeps: so, ok, I would continue to use arch=atom for i586 | 14:21 |
Uninstall | and everything that doesn't have SSE and all that stuff should stuck to i486 | 14:21 |
Uninstall | and we shouldn't care too much | 14:22 |
Stskeeps | in practice it might make sense to make it easier to optimize specifically | 14:23 |
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Uninstall | Stskeeps: so the plan is to drop the patch that forced atom changing the code | 14:25 |
Stskeeps | yes, and add it in configure instead like it's done for arm | 14:25 |
Uninstall | and to use --arch configure switch | 14:25 |
Uninstall | right? | 14:25 |
Uninstall | ok, cool | 14:25 |
Stskeeps | --with-arch, yeah | 14:25 |
Uninstall | Stskeeps: and we have been using atom as default arch and we will continue to do that in the same way | 14:25 |
Stskeeps | nod | 14:25 |
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Uninstall | I can't remember: atom or atom2? | 14:26 |
Uninstall | atom, right? | 14:26 |
Stskeeps | atom, i think | 14:26 |
Uninstall | it was: | 14:27 |
Uninstall | + ix86_arch_string = "core2"; | 14:27 |
Stskeeps | right | 14:27 |
Uninstall | + ix86_tune_string = "atom"; | 14:27 |
Uninstall | +enum fpmath_unit ix86_fpmath = FPMATH_SSE; | 14:28 |
Stskeeps | -with-arch=core2 --with-tune=atom --with-fpmath=sse | 14:28 |
Uninstall | ok, right | 14:28 |
Stskeeps | add an additional - in start | 14:28 |
Uninstall | right | 14:28 |
Uninstall | We have already this: | 14:31 |
Uninstall | %ifarch i586 | 14:31 |
Uninstall | --with-arch=i686 \ | 14:31 |
Uninstall | %endif | 14:31 |
Stskeeps | nod | 14:31 |
Stskeeps | which gets neutered by the patch | 14:31 |
Uninstall | so we have been forcing it to i686 and then changing it with a patch? | 14:31 |
Stskeeps | silly historical stuff | 14:31 |
Stskeeps | :P | 14:31 |
Uninstall | Stskeeps: are you sure that this --with-arch=i686 changes only the default output ISA? | 14:33 |
Stskeeps | yeah | 14:33 |
Uninstall | ok | 14:36 |
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Uninstall | Stskeeps: http://review.merproject.org/#change,1583 | 14:48 |
Uninstall | Stskeeps: fixed | 14:48 |
Stskeeps | nod, will build test it after dinner | 14:50 |
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Uninstall | Stskeeps: there is one more thing that I've left out I think | 15:04 |
Uninstall | Stskeeps: should I add --enable-gold=yes ? | 15:14 |
Stskeeps | isn't that mroe of a binutils thing | 15:15 |
Uninstall | we had a patch for gold that it isn't applied anymore | 15:17 |
Stskeeps | right, the -fuse-ld=gold thing? | 15:17 |
Uninstall | yes, it wasn't a switch, it was a patch | 15:18 |
Stskeeps | nod | 15:18 |
Stskeeps | it should be there in gcc4.8 mainline at least | 15:18 |
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Uninstall | Stskeeps: yes, but I'm trying to understand if we need to enable some extra switches to get that code built and enabled | 15:20 |
Stskeeps | hmm well we'd find pretty quickly out with qtwebkit | 15:21 |
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Uninstall | Stskeeps: we have that patch only for qtwebkit? | 15:29 |
Stskeeps | and for other things that need to use gold | 15:29 |
Stskeeps | i think chromium wants it too | 15:29 |
Stskeeps | and fennec/mozilla | 15:29 |
Stskeeps | generally 'big fat engines' | 15:29 |
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Uninstall | Stskeeps: ah, ok | 15:47 |
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Uninstall | Stskeeps: first time should be built using bootstrap, right? | 15:50 |
Stskeeps | yes | 15:50 |
Uninstall | Stskeeps: then as the build finish we should remove it, right? | 15:52 |
Stskeeps | yeah but it's not strictly speaking harmful | 15:52 |
Stskeeps | just adding more time to do the build | 15:52 |
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Uninstall | by the way on our private OBS I get this error: | 16:34 |
Uninstall | libtool: compile: /home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/gcc-linaro-4.8-2013.10/obj-i586-meego-linux/./gcc/xgcc -B/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/gcc-linaro-4.8-2013.10/obj-i586-meego-linux/./gcc/ -B/usr/i586-meego-linux/bin/ -B/usr/i586-meego-linux/lib/ -isystem /usr/i586-meego-linux/include -isystem /usr/i586-meego-linux/sys-include -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../../boehm-gc -I./include -I/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/gcc-linaro-4.8-2013.10/boehm-gc/include - | 16:34 |
Uninstall | fexceptions -Iinclude -I././targ-include -I.//libc/include -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -fexceptions --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Wformat-security -march=core2 -mssse3 -mtune=atom -mfpmath=sse -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -fno-omit-frame-pointer -MT mark_rts.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/mark_rts.Tpo -c ../../../boehm-gc/mark_rts.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/mark_rts.o | 16:34 |
Uninstall | make[1]: *** [configure-target-libjava] Error 1 | 16:34 |
Stskeeps | i don't think i remotely build libjava | 16:34 |
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Uninstall | We don't | 16:35 |
Uninstall | --disable-libgcj | 16:36 |
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Uninstall | just one unrelated question: does nemo/mer have any NFC daemon? | 17:08 |
Uninstall | what are they using in Jolla? | 17:08 |
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Stskeeps | the real problem is that there's a massive amount of NFC apis | 17:17 |
Stskeeps | :P | 17:17 |
fk_lx | well Blackberry has Qt NFC sth | 17:20 |
fk_lx | as far as I remember | 17:20 |
Stskeeps | yeah but underlying | 17:21 |
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Uninstall | Stskeeps: what are you using in Jolla? | 17:25 |
Uninstall | is any daemon or library needed? | 17:25 |
Stskeeps | Uninstall: mm i couldn't really say, but qtnfc is probably the app way forward | 17:25 |
Uninstall | I see that QtConnectivity is used | 17:26 |
Uninstall | I remember that N9 had an NFC daemon or somerthing like that | 17:27 |
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Stskeeps | yeah closed source | 17:30 |
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Uninstall | Stskeeps: and what it was used for? | 17:37 |
Stskeeps | well nokia's nfc daemon was closed source, and qtnfc spoke to it, i think | 17:38 |
Stskeeps | Uninstall: but anyway: the real problem is that on embedded size there's only really semi-closed source stuff like NXP's NFC library | 17:38 |
Stskeeps | usually comes bundled with an android build | 17:38 |
Stskeeps | then there's another one which is broadcom's | 17:38 |
Stskeeps | and they have two different APIs | 17:39 |
Stskeeps | libhybris has libnfc-nxp | 17:39 |
Uninstall | so QtConnectivity provides some API for that stuff that cannot be used standalone without a daemon and some closed source drivers? | 17:40 |
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dm8tbr | Stskeeps: I remember trying to find the right contacts at nokia because they were upstream for some OSS nfc stuff and we had written patches at tieto. don't remember how that turned out. they were not very responsive/interested. :( | 17:40 |
Stskeeps | Uninstall: pretty much | 17:40 |
Stskeeps | on the other side of the fence there's neard | 17:40 |
Uninstall | <sarcasm>cool"</sarcasm> | 17:41 |
Uninstall | is neard something that really works or just a random hack? | 17:41 |
Stskeeps | https://01.org/linux-nfc/ | 17:43 |
Stskeeps | of course it kinda requries a new kernel | 17:43 |
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Uninstall | https://01.org/linux-nfc/documentation/hardware-support <-- it seems that it has some real world hardware support | 17:45 |
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Uninstall | Stskeeps: anyway as soon as you start the build of gcc on mer tell me if it fails during some rebuild cycle due to java related stuff | 17:56 |
Stskeeps | nod | 17:56 |
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plfiorini | Stskeeps, is it possible to create a project for hawaii on build.merproject.org? :) | 18:36 |
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CosmoHill | yay no more beard | 21:33 |
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sledges | no-mo-vember? | 22:00 |
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CosmoHill | nope | 22:20 |
CosmoHill | just me being lazy | 22:20 |
lbt | having a beard is being lazy | 22:31 |
* lbt knows | 22:31 | |
CosmoHill | hi lbt | 22:31 |
lbt | o/ | 22:32 |
CosmoHill | lbt: http://forums.kustompcs.co.uk/showthread.php?t=52714 my car thread :) | 22:32 |
lbt | did you fix it yet? | 22:33 |
CosmoHill | no not yet | 22:33 |
CosmoHill | cousin got track rod and end and we're gonna do that soon | 22:33 |
CosmoHill | need to find a new slam panel then prob sort out the rads | 22:33 |
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lbt | exhaust OK | 22:36 |
CosmoHill | I think it is, might have moved a bit | 22:36 |
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CosmoHill | lbt: once I get hold of a slam panel I'll be happy cos all the other parts are easy(ier) to get | 22:45 |
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CosmoHill | lbt: what do you think of this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FIESTA-ST-150-COMPLETE-FRONT-PANEL-USED-FREE-POSTAGE-/271319865298?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AFord|Model%3AFiesta&hash=item3f2bec97d2 | 22:57 |
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CosmoHill | now to stop thinking about this so I can sleep | 23:03 |
CosmoHill | cyas | 23:03 |
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Uninstall | good evening | 23:07 |
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