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lubko | hi! | 08:10 |
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lubko | downloaded some nemo image to my n9, run zypper up. noticed the systemd is of version 187 and some other components are rather old | 08:14 |
lubko | i'm wondering if there's some more recent repository that I can enable to get more up-to-date packages? | 08:15 |
lubko | i don't actually care about the thing actually working too much :) | 08:15 |
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stephg | lubko: best ask in #nemomobile, but there are newer n9 nemo images | 08:23 |
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adriano__ | #qt | 11:57 |
adriano__ | HI | 12:00 |
adriano__ | someone know how to use Dbus on Mer ? | 12:00 |
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silver_hook | is there a list of what works on Jolla? | 18:29 |
silver_hook | i.e. what do I lose if i flash Mer/Nemo on a Jolla? | 18:29 |
silver_hook | also, what are the options of running Mer/Nemo and SailfishOS in parallel? | 18:30 |
locusf | you want pure Mer or Nemo? | 18:30 |
locusf | I've been trying to figure it out but nothing to show progress for so far | 18:31 |
silver_hook | Nemo, i guess ...i imagine pure Mer is the base system ans | 18:34 |
locusf | yep | 18:34 |
silver_hook | and Nemo includes all the UI and other app stuff needed for a phone. | 18:34 |
locusf | indeed | 18:34 |
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silver_hook | So Nemo on Jolla ...what's missing? | 18:35 |
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locusf | a lot | 18:36 |
locusf | we don't have a working dialer, no messages, no browser | 18:37 |
locusf | and nothing working at the moment and no way to flash it :) | 18:37 |
silver_hook | browser? didnt jolla release its browsre as free software yet? | 18:38 |
silver_hook | i was just reading about glacier and was quite hopeful ... :/ | 18:39 |
locusf | yeah but the engine doesn't build in the mer+nemo merged repository | 18:39 |
locusf | gecko engine to be exact | 18:39 |
plfiorini | what about cutefox, same issue? | 18:39 |
locusf | yep | 18:39 |
plfiorini | :( | 18:39 |
plfiorini | locusf, does it make sense to port it to qtwebengine? | 18:40 |
locusf | plfiorini: I dunno, haven't looked into it | 18:41 |
silver_hook | why doesnt it buld thoufh? that is odd... | 18:41 |
locusf | there are lenghty discussions among faenil and rozhkov_ in nemomobile irc logs about it not building | 18:41 |
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locusf | + mer doesn't apparently have qtwebengine | 18:45 |
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locusf | and don't lose all hope, Nemo has a future in other libhybris adaptations :) | 18:46 |
locusf | even if Jolla doesn't turn out to be a fruitful platform (we don't know yet!) | 18:46 |
silver_hook | but since jolla is heavil based on mer and nemo - and even advocates that - it would be an awful shame if it wasnt a fruitful platform for it :/ | 18:49 |
locusf | sure | 18:50 |
silver_hook | is it at least possible to gradually replace components on SailfishOS with Nemo? (e.g. ) | 18:52 |
silver_hook | (e.g. the UI for Glacier/Lipstik, etc) | 18:52 |
locusf | the homescreen already is replaceable | 18:53 |
plfiorini | locusf, imho sailfish is a nice OS the only problem is the price for a phone that's not super new | 18:54 |
plfiorini | hope it gets the attention it deserves | 18:56 |
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locusf | well its not trivial to create a libhybris adaptation from the ground up and have every hardware feature available | 19:03 |
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silver_hook | right, but how much does jolla.contrubute back to mer and nemo? | 19:18 |
locusf | a whole lot | 19:19 |
locusf | you could see how much code they contribute if you were a nemomobile developer in the github group | 19:19 |
silver_hook | cool that is nice to hear :) | 19:29 |
silver_hook | now that the tohkbd is out, can that work directly in mer or need the drivers be | 19:30 |
silver_hook | sailfishos specific? | 19:30 |
silver_hook | (sorry for breaklines, irc on a software kbd on mz n9 is not fun) | 19:31 |
ali1234 | the drivers won't be sailfish only | 19:47 |
ali1234 | TOH is just some i2c pogopins | 19:47 |
ali1234 | worst case, someone could write a driver for it in a few hours | 19:48 |
silver_hook | ali1234: that'd be supercool :) | 19:48 |
ali1234 | it's not like trying to reverse engineer a GPU driver or something, it's far simpler | 19:49 |
ali1234 | i doubt any of that will be necessary though | 19:50 |
silver_hook | yay! i want to try running fully free software on it | 19:51 |
locusf | yeah freeTOH sounds nice | 19:51 |
silver_hook | i knkw that is not easily achievable (even ignoring drivers and firmware), but not trying gets us nowhere :p | 19:52 |
locusf | very true | 19:52 |
silver_hook | i would love to be able to dual boot between sailfish and nemo ...not yet likely, eh? | 19:53 |
locusf | yep | 19:53 |
locusf | but who knows | 19:54 |
locusf | the bootloader is unlockable | 19:54 |
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silver_hook | but individual apps and daemons are easily replacable? | 19:56 |
locusf | depends on app :) | 19:57 |
silver_hook | e.v. | 19:58 |
silver_hook | e.g.? | 19:58 |
locusf | I dunno :p | 19:59 |
locusf | maps? | 19:59 |
silver_hook | there are poor maps, right? | 19:59 |
silver_hook | or is it hard to remove here maps? | 20:00 |
locusf | yeah well qmlmaps exists | 20:00 |
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plfiorini | locusf, does it use OSM maps? | 20:05 |
locusf | plfiorini: no idea | 20:16 |
locusf | its based on Nokia maps component | 20:17 |
locusf | https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlmaps | 20:17 |
silver_hook | there was marble, that used also osm, but no idea if anyone maintains a mer port | 20:21 |
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Morpog_PC | silver_hook, you don't need to insatll here maps at all | 20:42 |
Morpog_PC | sailfish only comes with a few core apps, rest of Jolla apps are in jolla store. So you decide if you need them or not | 20:42 |
Morpog_PC | they are not pre installed | 20:43 |
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silver_hook | morpog_pc: niiiiceee :) | 21:08 |
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