Monday, 2011-12-19

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menghaomorning guy00:47
menghaowhat's the requirement to use scp command?00:50
menghaocomp and device connected under same access point?00:50
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araujoni hao ma menghao01:20
menghaowo hen hao.01:22
menghaowhat about you?01:22
araujohen hao01:23
menghaoI not really good.01:23
araujowhat's wrong?01:23
menghaowas trying to transfer a rpm file into my sd card.01:24
menghaobut failed.01:24
menghaoi wrote my image in SD card.01:24
araujodid you check if the file is corrupted?01:26
menghaoI want to put a rpm file into my memory card01:28
menghaoi tried to connect usb, and i choose mass strorage , it goes to my n900 32GB internal  memory01:28
menghaoNemo unable to read the files from there right?01:28
menghaoSo i took out my memory card and put into card reader and insert into linux machine.01:28
menghaoI tried to copy the file into memory card but fail too01:28
menghaoaraujo : any idea?01:41
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menghaoalien, you there?03:15
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Stskeepsalien_: will respond to your mail after coffee, is good to document the why and hows :)06:08
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iekku^bugs needing triage, triage staring in 1,5h06:23
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iekkui will try to be chairing06:25
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mikhasBug triage @ 9am UTC on Monday is so cruel.06:41
Stskeepsyeah.. it's just to start the week as our work has become a bit unfocused06:42
Stskeepsand well06:42
Stskeepsif we are in triages, we're not causing monday related accidents06:42
iekku:D :D :D06:43
mikhasWhy unfocused?06:43
Stskeepsas in it's better to fix glaring bugs than add features at times06:43
mikhasThat is very true.06:44
mikhasWhenever we had to add dramatic features in Harmattan, we've paid twice: Old bugs that didn't get fixed instead, and new bugs.06:45
mikhas=> steadily increasing bug residue06:45
iekkuis there bugs in harmattan? :shock:06:46
mikhasiekku, sometimes I am surprised we shipped.06:47
iekkumikhas, sometimes = all the time? :P06:48
iekkupersonally i'm suprised, not because the bugs, but because of the elop06:48
mikhasThat too.06:50
mikhasSee and yet it was probably the kick in the stomach that made us Harmattan ready to ship.06:51
Stskeepsmorn marquiz06:53
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mikhasNot going to be here later, but I'll try to forward to someone from our team.06:56
mikhasAnd lacks information. What should happen is that VKB's symview comes up, but we currently have no Maliit plugin in the open that counts as HWKB-ready.06:57
mikhasSo bug 50 is most likely related to (or wrong HWKB mapping).06:58
mikhas=> leaving06:58
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StskeepsSage: do me a favour and run CE:* against Core-next: as i described in the pre-release mail :)07:27
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Stskeepsie, additional repo07:27
* Sage was "offline" the whole weekend ;)07:27
Stskeepsgood choice ;)07:28
iekkuSage, ooh! good!07:29
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Stskeepsbe aware that the might be a toolchain bug for kernels, cxl000 saw it on n8x007:36
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Sagewhere is the bug triage kept?07:45
the-bossStskeeps: Error: "mer-meeting" is not a valid command.07:48
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StskeepsANNOUNCEMENT: Bug triage in #mer-meeting right now08:05
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Sageveskuh, Stskeeps: about the pinquery. It seems that if the ofono is not running the pinquery doesn't try to start it
Sagein theory if there is message sent to ofono systemd should start it08:41
Stskeepsso dbus activation isn't happening?08:42
Stskeepsadd that to bug report08:42
Sageseems so08:42
SageI'll check more soon08:42
Sageneed to enable ping query for my sim08:42
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Sagewhere is the meego-pinquery upstream atm?08:55
Stskeepswas created by us08:55
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Sagehow to enable pinquery from cmdline with ofono? :)09:01
Sagewe don't have UI for that and I don't have other phone to put the normal sim than N900 atm :P09:01
menghaoHello guys09:04
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veskuhSage: nothing provides pm-utils >= needed by upower09:11
Sagethat is mer bug09:12
SageStskeeps: ^09:12
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* Sage checks the packaging09:12
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Sageveskuh: a moment.09:14
faenilmorning hackers :P09:15
Sagefaenil: morning09:16
SageStskeeps: I would say we need to get pm-utils to next mer release.09:17
Sage <- can someone reach this?09:18
veskuhSage: nope09:18
Sageveskuh: install upower from this repo when the repo finish building.09:20
Sageveskuh: it should bring the pm-utils as well from there.09:20
veskuhSage: ok09:21
menghaoanyone have any idea how to transfer file into memory card?09:21
Stskeepsmenghao: we usually use ssh/scp09:22
Stskeepsover usbnetwork09:22
Stskeepsor wifi09:22
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menghaostskeeps, my image wrote in memory card.09:23
Sageveskuh: available.09:23
menghaoi connect USB, the .rpm file is only able to transfer into 32gb internal memory09:23
Sageveskuh: if that works I'll do some updates to those packages and need you to restest after that.09:23
* Sage ponders how to verify if upower really needs pm-utils09:24
Sage <- probably this solves that it does09:25
veskuhSage: nothing provides usermode needed by pm-utils-1.4.1-1.1.armv7hl09:26
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Sageoh, come on :D09:27
SageStskeeps: what brings upower to mer core?09:27
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Sageo_0 usermode deps on gtk2...09:29
* Sage goes to check packaging09:29
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mikhascould someone please check why my Mer bugzilla account isn't synced with Nemo bugzilla account?09:45
mikhasI can log in in the former, not the latter09:45, michaelh at09:45
Stskeepsi'll prod lbt about it, we're on two users now with same issue09:46
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Sageveskuh: I removed usermode dep from pm-utils so it should be available soonish when it recompiles10:24
veskuhSage: Ok.10:25
Sageveskuh: rdy10:26
veskuhSage: Problem: nothing provides pciutils >= 2.2.1 needed by pm-utils-1.4.1-2.1.armv7hl10:29
veskuhSage: but on the good news side, I already install upower (ignore depends) and at least loading indication started to work10:30
Sagehmmp... that is a mess :D10:32
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Sageapparently that is not needed dep as well. No calls to lspci setpci or other bins are made from the code10:34
Sagedep was added in 2006 ;)10:35
Sageso things might have changed since then :P10:35
Stskeepsyeah, like man pages made in latex..10:36
Sageok, so only pm-utils is needed to mer core. Stskeeps that is acceptable I guess?10:37
Stskeepsi think so10:37
Sageveskuh: I'll do update for the 1.5year old upower as well. If you could test if that still works.10:37
SageI'll inform when it is available10:37
veskuhSage: Sure10:38
StskeepsSage: before that, can you add Core-next?10:38
Stskeepsso we can see how many red 'failed' we get10:39
Sageall archs?10:40
Sagecobs down?10:42
Stskeepsworks for me10:43
Sageah, now works again10:43
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Sageoh, hell. This trashes my repo names totally :D10:45
Stskeepsjust a temporary thing..10:45
Sageyes, well it is a problems still in the future if similar things come10:45
SageI'm working around no panic, but still need to think about this at some point10:46
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veskuhSage: device connected to USB and:
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SageStskeeps: I'll submit the pm-utils to CE:Utils for now and pick it up from there when ready. That should work for us for now.11:17
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3678 Rejected promotion request11:26
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Sagearaujo: !!!!!!12:04
Stskeepswhat about it?12:04
Sagearaujo: why maliit require maliit to build.... see the sdk package12:04
Sageit can't bootstrap from 0 as it depends itself :P12:05
SageStskeeps: phonon part of Mer core?12:07
Stskeepsno, think it's dead too12:08
Stskeepswell, at least not part of qt512:08
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3680 waiting for review at
phaeronSage: there you go12:32
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Sagephaeron: check
Sageerr... nm. slow cobs12:48
Sagephaeron: what is with the 3679?12:49
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the-boss`phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3680 Accepted promotion request12:52
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Sageveskuh, Stskeeps: meego-pinquery uses ofono-qt, it might be that the problem in the pin is there12:59
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the-boss`phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3681 Rejected promotion request13:02
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Sageveskuh, Stskeeps:
veskuhSo in case pinquery does first query to ofono we do not get reasonable results and in cases where somebody else has done first query then pinquery would work?13:09
Sagewell, to me it seems that pinquery doesn't actually query any information from ofono but relies on informatino that has been sent by ofono earlier.13:10
Sageso in cases where the pinquery is visible ofono has already sent information that pinquery is enabled or something13:11
veskuhAh, so defining the query better would result better results?13:11
SageI think so yes.13:11
phaeronSage: btw osc rebuild -f projectname13:11
Sagephaeron: only the failed packages not all :)13:12
phaeronSage: hence the -f13:12
SageI though it was force :P13:12
Sageok, makes sense.13:12
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Sagephaeron: thx :)13:12
phaeronyeah osc is not great at consistency , but we choose to accept it as it is :D13:13
* Sage goes away for a while.13:13
phaeronso which request did you want me to look at13:13
phaeronok tyt13:13
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* Sage is confused with the maliit13:52
Sagehow did it get in to our CE:MW:Shared :D13:52
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the-boss`phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3682 waiting for review at
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the-boss`phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3682 Accepted promotion request14:00
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Sageveskuh: if you are up for it do zypper remove upower and remove my repo and update the meego-contextkit-battery-upower package14:09
Sageveskuh: ah, and zypper remove pm-utils14:09
Sageif you had that as well14:09
SageGot the upower patch to the official repos14:09
Sageit is the old upower as the new failed to work so will go with that for now14:10
veskuhyep, makes sense14:10
Sagehowever upower is in mer core so it will be updated at some point anyway. Thus we need to look at it. Also it is currently 1.5years old package and behind 10 versions :)14:12
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Sagedo we have anyone interested in power management that could have a look?14:12
Sageuh, forgot to mention the NEMO# in the SR' :/14:13
veskuhYep, it shows the charging correctly now, but I suspect that battery status is not shown correctly14:18
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the-boss`phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3684 waiting for review at
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Sageveskuh: ok14:29
the-boss`phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3684 Accepted promotion request14:35
Sageveskuh: Merged and tagged new version for NEMO#7 in theme.14:36
veskuhtnx, I can upgrade the package.14:36
Sageok, thx14:37
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iloldStskeeps: Hi. did you consider patching meego kernel?18:03
ilold*nemo kernel18:04
Stskeepsnemo ;)18:11
iloldgood. was about to write "tizen?" ;-)18:12
Stskeepsvaporware ;)18:13
iloldStskeeps: you read the dmesg of maemo?18:13
Stskeepsyes, if you see i/o errors there that's not good18:14
Stskeepsdid you have the patch?18:14
iloldNo, it was maemo with stock kernel, no sdcard patch.18:14
Stskeepsi mean, if you could show me the needed patch :)18:15
iloldok, I'll browse the logs...18:15
ilold the 2.6.28 version.18:17
Stskeepshappen to know of one for .37?18:19
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iloldi might. I think I browsed a .37 version up somewhere around beagleboard... but would take some time finding.18:20
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Stskeepsok, that'd make life easier18:21
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lbt_mikhas: ping18:27
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mikhaslbt, pong18:28
lbtmikhas: hey... I see you have bz login issues18:28
marquiz_Sage, Stskeeps: you remember what has been the original idea behind mce's displaymeego module?18:29
lbtso... lets see what's going on18:29
mikhashmph, perhaps today is the day where I try out Nemo on this netbook …18:30
* mikhas feels adventurous18:30
Sagemarquiz_: no18:31
lbtmikhas: I need to go find the logs for login18:31
lbtmikhas: you can login to - correct?18:31
Stskeepsmarquiz_: displaymeego? O_o18:32
mikhaslbt, correct18:32
marquiz_Stskeeps: yeah, there's a displaymeego module in mce, written by lamikr18:32
marquiz_as a patch18:32
marquiz_which is derived from the display module of v1.10.9218:33
marquiz_very hard to rebase ;)18:33
lbtmikhas: are you using username or email on
lbttry both18:34
lbtI suspect you should use username18:34
mikhas                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        doh18:35
mikhas                                                                                                                                                                                              f18:35
mikhasoops, sorry for that input method problem18:35
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mikhaslbt, yes it does accept my username18:35
lbtso you can login?18:35
marquiz_Stskeeps, Sage: it actually seems that it's the display module with dimming disabled and some other minor changes18:35
mikhaslbt, yup18:35
mikhasso it doesnt sync email?18:35
lbtyay... OK - I'll clarify that18:36
lbtyes, but it uses uid to login from ldap18:36
lbtI guess that's odd for BZ18:36
mikhasas long as it is known, it's fine18:36
Stskeepsmarquiz_: curious, that sounds like something they would have used on intel platforms18:37
mikhasthough of course, if someone could hack up your BZ instance/LDAP to map email to username, that be even better18:37
lbtglad it was that easy ... Stskeeps ^^^ need to use username to login to nemomobile18:37
lbtmikhas: it may permit that now18:37
lbtlogout and in18:37
mikhaslbt, nope18:38
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lbtmikhas: was that logged as a bug on merproject?18:41
marquiz_Stskeeps: accorging to the changelog it was submitted as a fix to BMC#14738, i'll try without it, see what happens18:41
mikhaslbt, nope, at least cant find any18:42
mikhasfunny how Maliit has nearly as many bugs in open as Mer and Nemo18:45
Stskeepsapproximately same time we opened them18:45
iloldStskeeps: 2.6.39 and 3.0 but no .37 patch found. well, but it is not a big patch anyway. one line? althought I am no good with patching by myself.18:46
Stskeeps.39 i'd lke to see18:47
iloldwill this do?
Stskeepsyes, i think it will18:50
iloldfine, I'll read the logs. have to go.18:51
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mikhashm, on Nemo installation: installation should happen on dedicated console. I did not see that it was expecting input from, due to messaging continue to flow thru display.18:55
mikhasAnd "This is the last chance to rollback, Are you sure you want to continue?" should default to NO, not YES.18:55
Stskeepson X86?18:55
Stskeepsok, yeah, installer might be a bit odd there18:56
mikhasare they different for ARM/X86?18:56
Stskeepsyes, we don't have arm installers18:56
mikhasoh :-D18:56
mikhasBut other than that, it's pleasantly painless.18:56
Stskeepscristi claimed he had 60fps+ in virtualbox on his machine with Nemo with our LLVMpipe implementation18:57
Stskeepstalk about a nice potential development platform18:57
mikhasHey, I can see Finland!18:58
mikhasMeans it booted up properly, I guess.18:58
Stskeepsyes ;)18:58
mikhaserr yes, it *is* fast18:58
mikhasOK, but Nemo Keyboard has rendering issues in software mode.18:59
mikhas=> could be
Stskeepsi'm not confident the compositor is working right19:00
mikhasGet rid of it.19:01
mikhasSeriously, mcompositor is too heavily patched for N9 use cases.19:01
Stskeepsstill, not any good alternatives19:01
Stskeepsnot gles ones at least19:01
Stskeepsand don't say anything involving clutter :)19:02
Stskeepslbt: javier had issues too19:02
lbtI noted in his bug ... waiting for him to appear19:03
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