Monday, 2012-10-15

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* Sage_ would like if all would go to and remove projects that they don't need anymore to reduce the load for cobs.06:37
* special did06:38
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iekkusorry, i'm late, nemo bug triage starting07:07
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romaxaw00t: ping07:09
romaxaw00t: try to build something using these instructions
romaxaw00t: implementation very basic and simple, but should be ok for test build and simple run07:13
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Sage_w00t: did you fork the meegotouch-compositor already btw?09:00
Jake9xxdid you see google's entrypage today alredy ?09:08
Jake9xx'little nemo in google land' :)09:08
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Sage_haha :)09:12
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* Sage_ hunts w00t down and hits him with a rubber hammer09:33
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Sage_dude ! :D09:35
Sage_ok, one part is my bad as I accepted the change09:36
Sage_w00t: colorful-home should to be called colorful-home not lipstick, and getting error about org.nemomobile.configuration not existing09:40
Sage_qrc:/qml/main.qml:11:1: module "org.nemomobile.contacts" is not installed09:41
Sage_I have the definitely installed09:41
Sage_i | nemo-qml-plugins-contacts              | QML contacts plugin    | package09:41
Sage_it is that right? special alterego ?09:42
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lbtSage_: since brits outnumber yanks it should be coloUrful-home09:57
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7011 waiting for review at
Sage_anyone want to give that a review?10:42
Sage_from me thus I would like to hear comments10:42
Sage_phaeron: time to get back to me? ;)10:43
phaeronget back _at_ you :D10:46
Sage_well yes ;)10:46
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7012 waiting for review at
* Sage_ can see how phaeron tries to look for an error ;)10:48
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7012 Accepted promotion request10:50
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7013 waiting for review at
tanukSage_: I asked about this yesterday, but I guess you were not around: I'd like to get repositories created in github for pulseaudio-modules-nemo (formerly known as pulseaudio-modules-n900), pulseaudio-settings-n950 and pulseaudio-settings-n900.10:58
tanukSage_: I don't have the privileges to create the repos, so could you do that, or give me the privilege? (I don't know what's the policy with the access controls)10:59
phaeronSage_: to test this I need mer next ?11:02
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MSameerphako: hello11:07
phakoMSameer: hey11:07
MSameerphako: I was wondering how's the tracker update going ?11:07
MSameerand if you need any help :)11:07
phakoMSameer: I'm sorry, I haven't had much time recently11:07
MSameerno worries11:08
MSameeri can try to drive the last mile11:08
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phakoMSameer: there are currently two things that need some attention, one is: is the failing of the QtContact unittests a regression or not and b) force tracker to use the ini-style config fall-back unless a persistent GSettings back-end is available11:08
phako+QtContact signal unittests11:09
MSameerthat makes them 3 items11:09
phakoMSameer: no, that + belongs to the first item11:10
MSameerphako: thanks. I will give it a try11:11
Sage_phaeron: well it is for both -latest and -next, you have seen the -next demo in action already though :)11:15
phaeronso I can install those packages on my _latest nemo ?11:16
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7013 Accepted promotion request11:16
Sage_phaeron: yes11:16
Sage_I'm pushing the xorg updates to the nemo so that it works with old and new xorg11:16
Sage_working with fbdev driver soon11:17
* phaeron considers whether to install them or not :D11:18
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Sage_phaeron: ;)11:24
Sage_phaeron: obs-community meta pattern CE:Adaptation:x86-generic intel-x86-vm-support.xml is still not sync with the rpm I've rebuild it couple of times11:25
Sage_phaeron: change you could check why the heck it is failing :/11:25
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7015 waiting for review at
* phaeron wades through 3500 errors11:26
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tanukSage_: ping11:30
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phaeronSage_: how can I test it when sgx is failing to build in  latest ?
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phaeronSage_: ok installed only that package as you are promoting only that11:42
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phaeronSage_: is it me or does that package alone fix some flickering ?11:45
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7015 Accepted promotion request11:48
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7011 Accepted promotion request11:54
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7016 waiting for review at
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phaeronSage_: there11:58
Sage_phaeron: probably you as it shouldn't really do anything12:05
Sage_phaeron: just submitted a fix to the sgx :)12:06
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ggoebeldaughter left her n900 at home... going to try to finish getting nemo on it12:32
ggoebelthere are different versions of uboot mentioned in the install docs12:32
ggoebelany recommendations on why I should do one or the other?12:32
Stskeepsmatch the one for your kernel12:34
ggoebel...also remember mention of a powersaver kernel. Is that stable. Or rather any recommendations on what is safe/stable for n900?12:34
Stskeepsif you use stock pr1.3, uboot-pr1312:34
ggoebelany opinion on relative advantages/disadvantages of Pali's u-boot and kernel-power12:36
ggoebelfor the moment, I'm wanting to stay on the path most travelled... Can I assume that would be stock pr1.3 w/ uboot-pr13?12:36
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anYcI use normal kernel and uboot from the extras repo as explained in the wiki, dual boot works for me12:40
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w00tSage_: nggh, osc commit didn't push that for some reason, sorry.. re contacts, do you have a /usr/lib/qt4/imports/org/nemomobile/contacts/qmldir?13:06
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sledgesYoohoo! I'm going to ELCE (Barcelona 5-7 Nov) - whom will I have pleasure to meet there :) ? (Embedded Linux Conference Europe 2012)13:23
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phaeronSage_: Xorg doesn't come up anymore13:32
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ggoebelhelp? followed instructions:
ggoebelonly difference being I did the dd ... from the phone itself booted to maemo13:42
ggoebelI'm seeing the uboot logo on boot, but not booting to nemo13:44
ggoebelis there a boot menu configuration I need to setup?13:44
ggoebel(lovely, power company just knocked on door to tell me their going to cut power for 3 hours)13:45
ggoebelmaybe I missed a timeout on the u-boot menu...13:46
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ggoebelyep. in nemo for first time :-)13:56
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ggoebelinitial observations... can't set timezone. haven't figure out how to switch between or close apps. -Short of waiting for screen saver and then clicking on "balloons"? icon14:10
Sage_w00t: I have no qmldirs under that on any plugins14:10
Sage_w00t: what did you break? :)14:10
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tanukSage_: Did you see my request for the github repositories?14:14
Sage_tanuk: yes, sry haven't acted yet on it14:15
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Sage_tanuk: creating those now14:16
tanukSage_: Thank you!14:16
Sage_tanuk: renaming pulseaudio-settings-n950 to -n950-n914:18
tanukjusa_: ^14:18
Sage_tanuk: also how big difference is there on n900 vs n950?14:18
tanukZero, afaik.14:18
tanukOn Harmattan there was algorithm tuning differences, but not on Nemo.14:19
tanukAh, sorry.14:19
Sage_I'm mainly pondering if those should be merged14:19
tanukThought you asked n9 vs n950.14:19
tanukMerging might make sense.14:20
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Sage_ is the n90014:21
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Sage_and I can't seem to find n950 one14:21
tanukjusa didn't find any git repo either.14:22
tanukIt's unclear where the configuration in Nemo has come from.14:22
Sage_well n900 git tree I found but we need to move it anyway under nemo14:22
Sage_well, dir diff is over 3000 lines but that doesn't say the whole truth14:24
tanukThe difference is basically in the alsa configuration, and if you don't take the algorithm tunings (which I removed from the n900 package) into account, the alsa config is the largest part of the package.14:25
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Sage_so merging doesn't make that much sense, does it?14:26
romaxaw00t: ping14:26
tanukSo, the configuration files themselves can't really be reused between n900 and n950, but it might still make sense to merge the packages, since the configuration files don't conflict.14:26
khertanHello ... can i do a zypper dist-upgrade to update my mer image on n900 ?14:27
Sage_tanuk: if there isn't much that can be used commonly not sure if there is need to merge14:27
khertani mean, i can, but does it ll be useable ? :)14:27
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Sage_khertan: in theory yes but atm. I would say no as something broke just couple of days ago14:27
khertanhum ... :)14:27
Sage_or at least I'm having problems and not sure what is going on14:27
khertanso i ll download image :)14:28
khertanand reconfigure :)14:28
Sage_I'm hoping to get that fixed today though14:28
Sage_so might be worth to wait a moment14:28
tanukSage_: Let's go with separate packages then.14:28
w00tSage_: errrm... wtf, looking14:31
Sage_w00t: creating qmldir with proper content seems to help :)14:31
* w00t notes that he explicitly said that using * in packages is bad for this reason14:31
w00tromaxa: sec14:31
w00tlet me get this figured first :)14:31
tanukSage_: Can I have write access to the repositories too?14:33
Sage_w00t: yup, only use *.??? or so :)14:33
Sage_tanuk: moment :)14:33
ggoebelI just finished installing the 2012-08-31 image... was about to perform an zypper update per the wiki update instructions14:33
Sage_tanuk: done14:34
ggoebelbased on what Sage_ just told khertan I have to ask... will a zypper update per wiki/Nemo/Updating break things?14:34
Sage_tanuk: created both n900 and n950-n9 settings14:34
Sage_ggoebel: atm. yes as w00t broke something ;)14:35
Sage_I'm expecting a fix in next 30mins ;)14:35
jusa_Sage_: ok14:35
* anYc notes14:35
ggoebelthx let me know and I can be your first tester :-)14:36
khertanggoebel, don't know yet, download in progress14:37
w00tSage_: do you know if I can inspect contents of a rpm without installing it?14:39
tanukjusa_: I guess you can push the n950 settings?14:39
phaeronw00t: rpm2cpio | cpio -idvu14:39
phaeronw00t: and make sure to do it inside a dir14:40
khertanw00t, i do that with gui on desktop with fileroller14:40
anYchm, "rpm -qL" ?14:40
w00tkhertan: i'm not on a desktop14:40
anYcäh, lowercase "l"14:40
w00tphaeron: trying that14:40
w00tanYc: requires installation14:41
phaeronrpm -qpl actually14:41
phaeronp means package14:41
phaeronso doesn't have to be installed14:41
jusa_tanuk: I will14:41
w00tah, that's exactly what i wanted14:41
khertanw00t,  rpm -q -filesbypkg -p filename.rpm14:41
anYcoh okay thanks14:41
w00tkhertan: -qlp seems to do it well14:41
w00tthanks all14:41
khertanqlp is the shortcut :)14:42
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Sage_w00t: what phaeron said is what I use :)14:47
w00tSage_: test building in a branch14:50
khertanWhat will be the way to distribute apps to nemo ? ?14:52
romaxaw00t: just to make sure, have you seen wiki page link I sent yesterday?14:53
w00tromaxa: not really, i had a horrible day travelwise (travelling to an airport all last night, travelling back most of today), so I'm a bit backlogged14:53
romaxaw00t: ok,
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romaxaw00t: which sdk instructions do you use for building for nemo?14:56
w00tbuilding applications for nemo?
ggoebelany pointers to user interface guidelines... getting started, etc?14:57
w00tthere'll be qt creator integration someday, probably, but for the stuff you're doing, you'll want to be a bit more hardcore14:57
w00tromaxa: also read up on sb2 (there should be a page somewhere on mer wiki... sec)14:57
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w00tggoebel: depends which part of the UI you're working on14:57
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w00tas for getting started, pick a bug, read wikis, and ask for help if you're lost as to where to start looking/get stuck14:58
w00tthere's plenty of people happy to help :)14:58
ggoebelwoot: atm I'm just trying to navigate it as a 1st time end-user14:58
anYcggoebel: maybe watch some videos on youtube14:58
ggoebelwho to switch tasks, remove apps from desktop, etc.14:59
w00tSage_: SR 701914:59
ggoebeluser interface isn't documented anywhere?14:59
w00tnot from that perspective (feel free to do video walkthroughs etc of your discovery)15:00
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ggoebelhow about from a developer's perspective?15:01
w00tggoebel: i'm not sure what you're asking for15:02
Sage_w00t: thx15:04
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ggoebelI'm sure somewhere along the line there was a ui design specification15:05
ggoebelI'll go tour the youtube videos15:05
w00tspecification *for what*?15:05
khertanqt components and meego references ui design ?15:05
ggoebelhow the user interface works15:05
ggoebelhow end users interact with the desktop15:06
ggoebelget to settings15:06
ggoebelswitch apps15:06
ggoebelopen and close apps15:06
w00tno, there is no such specification15:06
ggoebelevery app might have a different layout?15:07
ggoebelno consistent look and fee?15:07
ggoebelwhere does mer leave off and nemo begin?15:07
w00tyou didn't mention applications, 4 of those directly referred to the homescreen15:07
ggoebelI imagine the homescreen at some level is app #115:07
w00twe use MeeGo's Qt components15:08
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7020 waiting for review at
ggoebelthe homescreen isn't a qt app?15:08
ggoebelI'll visit youtube and then head on over to look for qt documentation15:08
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romaxaw00t: oh, my vps seems went down... haven't seen any messages after my two15:12
w00tSage_: qmlmail changes building locally, let's see how that goes15:13
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7020 Accepted promotion request15:15
romaxaw00t: yep... sb2 probably best way to go15:15
w00tromaxa: you may also find useful, I use it to quickly build rpms given a source tree + spec file15:16
w00tit's a complete hack job, but it works15:16
w00t(and thanks to lbt/phaeron's help for making it less of a hack)15:17
khertanand if you made python/pyside apps, pypackager is now able to create spec, dsc, tar.gz for cobs15:17
khertanso one source, package for mer/nemo/harmattan, and run on mer/nemo/harmattan15:17
lbtit's in the -next sdk too15:17
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w00tlbt: cool :)15:20
romaxaw00t: btw do you still use meegotouch? or it is just for compat and booster code?15:20
w00tromaxa: more or less compatibility15:20
w00tapplauncherd still drags it in as a dependency (I have pending local patches fixing that)15:21
w00twe have bugs for ridding ourselves of it in other places where it's problematic, as it adds quite a bulk on top of processes15:21
romaxaw00t: but VKB is not meegotouch anymore, and it would be possile to make Qt app with working customized IM implementation (which would be needed for browser IM)15:21
w00tyes, VKB doesn't use meegotouch15:22
w00tbridging code lives in qt-components.. let me find it for you15:22
Sage_khertan: ggoebel: the bug is now fixed in repos so zypper up should be safe again :)15:22
romaxaw00t: oh, that is good15:22
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w00tromaxa: clone, see src/meego/mdeclarativeimattributeextension.cpp and src/meego/mdeclarativeinputcontext.cpp15:24
w00tand if you have questions on the VKB, #maliit (and pvuorela) is probably helpful15:25
romaxaw00t: one more question... how do you rotate things in nemo? portrait/landscape... is it some transform code around qpainter... or core FB integrated (like N900) or something else?15:26
khertanSage_, thx ... already in installing phase :)15:26
w00tromaxa: qt components will take care of that for you (via QML)15:26
w00tsrc/meego/Window.qml has logic for rotation15:27
w00tto more directly answer your question though, it's done in software, not at the X level15:27
w00tsame as N915:27
ggoebelwiki/Nemo states Nemo UX is based on Meego Handset UX... as such for someone new to nemo is the following still relevant:
w00ttreat that with a very large pinch of salt15:35
romaxaw00t: btw, do you have maybe some vmware virtual image with SDK installed inside, so I can just hookup something very quickly15:38
w00tno, but provided you have linux, install should be quite painless15:38
w00tsee top of
romaxaw00t: yep, only one desktop left with linux inside due to my new job perspective...15:40
w00tah.. :P15:40
w00tperhaps VMs wouldn't be a terrible idea, dunno whether that has been thought of.. lbt ^^^15:40
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romaxaw00t: also last time when I tried to setup mer sdk/obs using some random manuals... got my desktop a bit messy15:41
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w00tit's a lot more straightforward now, i think15:42
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w00tah :)15:49
w00tromaxa: ^^^15:49
romaxaphaeron: yep will try that thanks15:49
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anYcRegarding "Nemo UX guidelines publishing" : how much detail is required? or is the front sufficient?16:17
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Sage_Transmitting file data .Server returned an error: HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error16:38
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faenilgood afternoon gentlemen16:45
niqthi faenil16:50
faenilhey, how you doing niqt :)16:55
ggoebelanYc: I'm less interested in iconography guidelines, than how the user interacts with the home screen and performs basic navigation tasks...16:58
niqtfaenil: i'm fine, you?16:59
faenilfine ;)16:59
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lbtromaxa: we're actively working on the SDK (especially VM and QtC) so expect changes too17:13
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7006 Rejected promotion request17:23
* w00t twitches17:27
w00tSage_: ^17:27
w00ttnhl failure(?)17:27
Sage_phaeron: CE:Apps needs tnhl reomved from boss check17:31
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ggoebelfyi: I found "Nemo Mobile feature walkthrough" a nice visual introduction to nemo:
ggoebelSage_ any word on whether an update from 2012-08-31 to current is safe now on n900 using zipper ref, screen, zipper up?17:45
deztructoris xorg broken in nemo n9xx?17:46
Sage_ggoebel: should be safe. I haven't tried it yet myself though. Am doing that in 15mins or so17:48
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phaeronSage_: ok , brb phone17:56
ggoebelgetting an error sending firmware during boot after u-boot screen17:59
ggoebelthen appears to lather, rinse, and repeat17:59
ggoebelconfirmed yanking sd allows me to go back to maemo17:59
ggoebelso perhaps I'll try the 2012-10-07 image next time I have time to give it a go18:00
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Sage_w00t: lipstick should depend on nemo-qml-plugins-configuration ?18:09
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w00tSage_: no18:11
phaeronlooking at issue now18:11
phaeronSage_: apps already has armv7tnhl exlcluded18:11
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Sage_w00t: lipstick colorful then?18:11
Sage_phaeron: I ponder why that 7006 failed then18:12
phaeronexcept there is no arch called armv7tnhl18:12
* phaeron *facepalm*18:12
Sage_w00t: yes, colorful home needs to require it or it doesn't start18:14
Sage_w00t: can you fix? :)18:14
phaeronSage_: ok excluded repo Mer_Core-next_CE_MW_Shared_armv7tnhl18:14
phaeron(nice name btw) :D18:14
w00talready on it.. it's another case where i have the change locally, but for some reason it didn't commit..18:14
w00tslightly irritating18:15
w00tand now osc is being a piece of shit18:16
w00t"omg link broken! use osc pull to merge conflicts" "already up to date" (no you aren't, ffs)18:16
* w00t just blows the checkout away18:16
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w00tphaeron: on the subject of OBS.. I have phantom packages in home:w00t:branches:Project:MTF:UX on cobs18:20
w00tpresumably related to the broken repos?18:21
phaeroncall ghostbusters :D18:21
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7021 Rejected promotion request18:21
w00talterego: where'd the service files (and the changelog entry for them) go? and the requirement to tone-generator is gone too18:23
alteregoCan you give me the link?18:24
alteregoAll still there ..18:24
phaeronw00t: those repos are disabled18:24
phaeronremove the link to them18:25
w00tnot according to the diff18:25
w00tphaeron: hmmk, so that would be blocking the delete?18:25
phaeronyour building against them would block the recalculation of the repo state (apparently)18:25
w00ti'll poke that in a bit, then18:26
alteregoOh crap, forgot to grab from nemo, looks like carsten updated the packaging.18:26
Sage_w00t: if you can't delete packges use osc rdelete -f18:27
Sage_webui sucks on many levels18:27
Sage_for some things I needed to -r -f project to get package out :)18:27
w00tSage_: they were supposed to delete after submissions18:27
w00tit had nothing to do with the web UI18:27
* Sage_ ponders what is wrong with the fbdev18:31
Sage_for some reason something odd happens to my xorg with the fbdev patch18:32
w00twhich fbdev patch?18:32
w00tI thought we weren't patching X anymore18:32
alteregow00t: I realised yesterday, that harmattan has same glitch we do with the compositing.18:35
w00twe have a hell of a lot more, but yes, the launch one it shares18:35
w00twith sage's update things look a lot better18:35
w00tlike, infinitely so18:35
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Sage_w00t: well not xorg but the sgx fbdev driver ;)18:39
Sage_I'm just not sure why this happens what happens18:41
Sage_I don't see Xorg crash report or anything it just stops18:41
Sage_or something18:41
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Sage_Xorg: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ undefined symbol: xf86ScreenToScrn18:46
Sage_err... ok :D18:46
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Sage_how the heck does it compile :D18:46
alteregoexterns ftw18:46
Sage_ok, so I need to go through the hard way then :/18:48
alteregoThat sounds like a really interesting function.18:48
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7022 waiting for review at
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7022 Accepted promotion request18:56
Sage_w00t: lipstick? :)18:57
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w00tSage_: I can't test it, my n950 isn't cooperating with internet access, I can just blind-submit, but you'll need to tell me if it works18:57
Sage_where is it?18:57
Sage_I can check18:57
Sage_good to go19:02
Sage_\o/ patch fixed19:03
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7024 waiting for review at
Sage_w00t: submit19:05
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Sage_w00t: umm.. rotation of homescreen is totally screwed on nemo19:06
w00tscrewed how..?19:07
Sage_it shows half of the lockscreen or something when on portrait19:07
w00tffs, what now19:07
w00t(I don't have that, obviously)19:07
w00tI'm cooking dinner19:07
w00tI'll look after that19:07
w00twhat version, fwiw19:08
w00tand do apps work?19:08
w00thmm ignore that19:08
w00tit's rotating, but appearing visually wrong?19:08
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7024 Accepted promotion request19:09
Sage_it is rotating and I can scroll apps19:09
Sage_the latest version from nemo19:09
Sage_alterego: btw, you should really start tagging more19:09
Sage_went to lock screen and out and now rotate is ok19:10
w00tok, so you triggered it while unlocking..?19:10
w00tthen i really want your colorfulhome version19:10
w00tbecause I'm sure I nailed all those19:10
alteregoSage_: I'll tag once I iron out some crinkles.19:10
Sage_rotate while unlocking and it gets screwed19:10
w00tthat's probably true19:11
w00tfile a bug please19:11
phaeronalterego: release early release often19:11
Sage_alterego: we should not release +gitXYZ versions19:11
alteregophaeron: sure, but when there are regressions I can for my own sanity call that a progressive tag worthy release :P19:11
alteregocan, can't19:12
alteregoSage_: noted, I'll be more release happy now :P19:12
phaeronbugs are a natural stage ins software lifecycle :D19:12
alteregoNow I can make releases outside of my own home project :P19:12
w00twhy couldn't you?19:13
phaeronbecause he doesn't deem it worthy19:13
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alteregow00t: I dunno, probably my own pride :P19:14
specialalterego: is that commit you released in git?19:15
Sage_w00t: done19:15
w00taha, i was worried there was a process flaw19:15
w00tSage_: ta19:16
alteregospecial: it is now19:16
alterego(just had to update some packaging stuffs)19:17
alteregoNow I can start integrating the fixes I've been working on.19:17
alteregoOr maybe I'll go to bed and get on that tomorrow morning.19:18
Sage_w00t: sr for the lipstick-home?19:21
w00terr.. right19:21
Sage_phaeron: checked that pattern thing yet?19:22
w00tdoing it now19:22
w00tSage_: 702519:22
phaeronno :(19:22
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7026 waiting for review at
Sage_ok, I think I'm done with -next and -latest checks now and main blockers are fixed. except the pattern thing :/19:27
phaeronstill wading through the errors19:30
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7026 Accepted promotion request19:31
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phaeronSage_: try to wipebinaries for CE:MW:Shared patterns19:49
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Sage_phaeron: ? And not for CE:Adaptation:x86-generic?19:49
phaeronSage_: just one for now19:50
phaeronyou want to test adaptation now ?19:50
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Sage_phaeron: adaptation is the only one that fails atm. really badly19:50
Sage_if related to patterns19:50
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phaeronchanging that one19:50
Sage_CE:MW:Shared if wipebinaries execeuted it can run qiute long as it builds ux and apps19:51
faenildamn expiring login session :P19:51
phaeronSage_: I said only patterns:)19:52
Sage_phaeron: let me know when you want me to call that wipebinaries19:52
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Sage_phaeron: oh :)19:52
Sage_ok, will do it for patterns19:52
phaeronSage_: ok do it for adaptation now19:52
Stskeepsout of curiousity19:53
Stskeepswhy wipebinaries19:53
phaeronbecause if he just triggers rebuild then the event is BUILD_UNCHANGED19:53
phaeronwhich is not probagated19:53
phaeronyay three errors19:55
* Sage_ is amused to see people yay'ing for errors :D19:55
ajalkaneUnfortunately only 3 errors with C++ is something to yay at :-)19:57
phaeronSage_: did it update , check now19:59
Sage_phaeron: yes20:00
Sage_good luck or you did something? :)20:01
phaeronwell I updated the process to the latest one I had20:01
phaeronthe old one had race conditions20:01
Sage_ah, ok20:01
phaeronthe errors were actually false , I flipped the error reporting , so it would always fire20:02
Sage_Retrieving package qt-debuginfo-4.8.2-1.28.armv7hl (1/1), 175.4 MiB (508.6 MiB unpacked)20:03
Sage_that is always nice ;)20:03
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Sage_well it is down from 800M or something like that but still a bit high :P20:04
Sage_Stskeeps: creating the nemo snapshots soonish when I get my mer sdk updated and .ks files checked20:06
faenilspecial, have you already seen ? :)20:11
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specialfaenil: yes, it's sitting in my inbox.20:12
faenilspecial, alright ;) just added too....20:12
faenillast one is very small ;)20:12
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faenilNEMO#347 and NEMO#404 will be taken into consideration after the restructuring work is done20:15
dm8tbrdid Sage_ file the bug about Merbot needing support for those IDS in the end?20:16
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specialfaenil: will look at both today20:22
faenilspecial, okay, thanks :)20:22
Sage_dm8tbr: hmmp... not sure, probably not as there wasn't a component for it in bugzilla ;)20:23
faenilany input on this is appreciated
MerbotNemo bug 218 in Photos/Gallery "Full image view toolbar should autohide." [Enhancement,Assigned]20:26
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qwazix_The basics for the UX guidelines websites have been set. Now we need more content :)
faenilqwazix_, good job!20:40
faenilqwazix_, the "Make it consistent" paragraph is like a mind flow atm  :) are you aware of that? :D20:42
qwazix_thanks, yes, it still needs work20:42
faenilqwazix_, alright ;) I didn't read it so I didn't know if that was wanted20:42
qwazix_I just pasted the text from the pdf, but haven't yet formatted it20:42
faenilbut I saw some big black dots and thought those weren't meant to be in the middle of a sentence :)20:42
faenilok ;)20:42
* Sage_ pushes synergy to CE:Apps20:43
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7027 waiting for review at
phaeronSage_: just think all these nice tricks will be useless in wayland :(20:47
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7027 Accepted promotion request20:51
Sage_phaeron: yes :)20:53
Sage_lbt: snapshot release note missing?20:54
faenilgood night everyone :)20:56
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qwazix_fixed now. Good night from me too.21:04
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lbtSage_: thanks - forgot to hit send21:31
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lbtStskeeps: if I approve this (+2) will it go into the current release21:39
Sage_Stskeeps: uploading -next images to
Sage_will take hour or two probably21:43
Sage_tested n950 image already and it works nicely21:43
Sage_w00t: is going to love the mer next ;)21:43
Sage_xorg update is finally in :)21:44
w00tcan we release it yesterday?21:44
Sage_if people help in testing on Thursday probably21:46
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phaeronhow can I help21:57
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romaxa_homephaeron: hmm I tried to load that virtual box image, it just hang on "Reached target Graphical Interface" and that is it23:36
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phaeronlbt: should be able to help you there, but it is a bit late :)23:38
lbtromaxa_home: right-ctrl+ f223:38
lbtromaxa_home: or whatever the host-key is on your box (right-ctrl on linux)23:39
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