Sunday, 2013-04-28

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dm8tbrmoaning08:05
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GentSirdm8tbr, do you intentionally misspell "morning"?08:20
dm8tbrwhy, yes, it seems I do08:21
GentSirDidn't know if it was a translation error or on purpose08:21
dm8tbrGentSir: are you familiar with the works of the troupe called monty python?08:22
GentSirdm8tbr, very little of it08:22
sledgeserm, that was Allo Allo dm8tbr tbh ;)08:23
sledgeshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGNVU5ZjlgA08:23
GentSirIf you want me to be perfectly honest, I'm one of those guys that prefers Asimov to Prachett08:23
dm8tbrsledges: I know, but it's the same type of humor08:24
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dm8tbrnot many people seem to know allo allo these days :(08:24
GentSirI'm just not a big fan of comedy and humor :/08:25
sledgesthat's a sad statement GentSir :)08:25
GentSirsledges, I like plenty of other good stuff08:26
GentSirI've read massive amounts of "classic" sci fi08:27
sledgeswell, anything that makes you happy GentSir :)08:27
GentSirYes, to each their own08:27
* dm8tbr locates a decentralized backup of allo allo. evening entertainment for the near future secured. <308:27
sledges:D our local panto group did a very fine selection of allo allo, I liked some of their jokes even more lol08:28
GentSirI've been working on going through Code Academy, whittling down my college list, trying to figure out what I want to do after community college this fall08:28
GentSirSo my Sailfish app got thrown into my dead project list for now08:28
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sledgesthat's anothe sad news GentSir08:29
GentSirIt's better to improve my programming skills first, so I don't unleash something truly awful at the community :)08:29
sledges:) sounds fair08:30
GentSirTrust me, you don't want to see what I've done with Perl in my teenage years08:31
Stskeeps"i want to see your perl code": nobody, ever08:31
Stskeeps:P08:31
dm8tbr:D08:32
GentSirHere's something really special: http://bpaste.net/show/94801/08:32
GentSirI think I was 14 when I wrote that08:32
GentSirSorry for making your brains explode :(08:43
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faenilo/09:43
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cybette\o09:46
dm8tbr~o~09:47
faenilahahha09:48
dm8tbr,o'09:51
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dm8tbr'o,09:51
faenilxD09:51
dm8tbrD.I.S.C.O!09:51
faenildm8tbr, you know man I spent the entire afternoon yesterday trying to get ubiboot to work...no success :(09:51
dm8tbrsucks09:51
* dm8tbr is making reasonable progress with setting the stage for his Nexus 4 hacking09:52
faenilI think there's some incompatibility with my n950's hw version or something like that09:52
faenilcool :)09:52
dm8tbrok, so unsurprisingly the kernel doesn't seem to boot...10:00
faenileheh10:00
dm8tbroh well, I'll look at that later. Now on to some other hackery10:00
faenildm8tbr, do you have a min to check this? http://pastebin.com/aTaWwLeq10:03
* dm8tbr checks10:04
faenilthanks :)10:04
faenilthat's all it says...then screen stays black10:05
dm8tbr361, 36210:05
dm8tbrwithout diving into things, I'd say mtd5 is not formatted as UBIFS10:06
faenilit doesn't have to, does it? it's not used10:06
faenil(not in ubiboot-02)10:06
Stskeeps.. mtd?10:07
faenilStskeeps, trying to get ubiboot to work on n950 :/10:07
faenilit boots Nemo but it doesn't boot harm/nitdroid10:07
dm8tbrfaenil: without analyzing the boot process, no idea10:08
faenildm8tbr, okay, thanks anyway ;)10:09
dm8tbrfaenil: I'd "set -x" in the initramfs script and catch output10:10
dm8tbrthat would tell you much more than the kernel, which doesn't tell us much aside from a mounted ext4 fs and some mtd/ubifs stunts10:10
faenildm8tbr, I have a cpio which has ubiboot's scripts10:14
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rikaneefaenil: Harmattan doesn't like ubiboot10:16
faenilrikanee, eh :/10:16
rikaneeactually, it's related to the Harmattan kernel itself10:16
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rikaneeif you boot Harmattan with Nemo kernel, it boots just fine predictably10:16
rikaneebut then vibration doesn't work10:16
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faenilI'm using open kernel with L2 patch10:17
faenilwhich is what everyone uses :/10:17
rikaneeThat boots for you? Using a kernel with L2 patch gives me a reboot after a few seconds on the Nokia pulsing logo.10:17
faenilit booted with that before installing ubiboot10:18
rikaneeI can't boot Harmattan using anything BUT the Openmode kernel, minus L2fix.10:19
faenilmm, I see10:19
faenilon n950?10:19
rikaneeRM-696/N9.10:20
faenilok10:20
rikaneebut it's been a seriously mixed bag on any device, tbh10:20
faenildm8tbr, can you elaborate more on that?10:20
faenilrikanee, yeah...10:20
rikaneeSome kernels don't work, some kernels do, on certain N9 revisions.10:20
faenilyeah...10:20
rikaneeBizarre shit, this never happened across revisions on the N90010:21
dm8tbrfaenil: what?10:21
faenildm8tbr, which is the initramfs script in my case? can't find it10:21
dm8tbr'init' in initramfs10:21
faenilbut which one is initramfs10:22
faenilI have some preinits in ubiboot10:22
rikaneefaenil: if you're on ubiboot-02, do note that the initramfs is stuck to the kernel and not in the cpio archive10:24
dm8tbralso if it successfully hands over to the init process of the target, then this won't help10:24
dm8tbrbest bet would be a serial console ofc10:25
faenilrikanee, ok thanks for pointing that out...then how do I set -x ..10:25
faenildm8tbr, yeah10:25
faenilI think I'm buying the adaptor :)10:25
rikaneeyou'll have to rebuild the entire kernel+ramdisk10:25
rikaneeBug juiceme about it.10:25
rikaneeAlternatively, you can connect USB to start it, and launch commands from telnet10:26
faenilalready pinged him for the whole day yesterday :D he didn't answer so he's probably away, don't want to bother him too much :D10:26
faenilyea I'm currently in maintenance mode via USB10:26
faenilwhat can I try?10:27
rikaneethe kexec lines from the select-os-animated scripts?10:27
faenildm8tbr, I don't know if it reaches init...10:27
faenilalright let's see10:27
dm8tbrpulsing nokia logo?10:27
faenildm8tbr, nope10:28
dm8tbrno idea then10:28
rikaneeSo, before the Nokia logo?10:28
faenilwhen I select the OS the screen switches off and on10:28
faeniland stays black10:28
rikaneeAdd 'touch /bootstate.file' to the top of preinit10:28
faenilis that a special log file?10:28
rikaneeNope, just a flag.10:29
faeniloh ok ;)10:29
faeniltrying kexec atm10:29
rikaneecheck to see if it exists after it reboots/hangs if it even got to finish kexec-ing.10:29
faenilwell kexec returns "successful"10:29
rikaneebecause without a serial console, there really is no way in hell to debug this shit10:29
* dm8tbr knows why he loves UART for embedded hacking...10:30
faenil:) I've got to dig into that world10:30
rikaneeBooting into Harmattan is such an almighty pain that I'm thinking of porting over Pali's u-boot to N9/50.10:30
rikaneeAlthough I do have my doubts as to where the real fault in the boot chain is.10:32
rikaneeAs far as I've experienced, watchdogs on the TWL simply don't like kexec.10:32
rikaneeI can always get to the Nokia logo, but not past it.10:32
faenilI'd like to get to Nokia's log at least xD10:33
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faenilrikanee, no files created, it doesn't reach preinit_harmattan10:40
faenilrikanee, though it writes kexec successful, so it gets inside10:42
faenil  eval "kexec -l --type=zImage --command-line=$F_COMMAND_LINE $BOOTKERNEL"10:42
faenil  ret=$?10:42
faenil  if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then10:42
faenil    logger "kexec_load() successful"10:42
faenil    exit 010:42
faenil  else10:42
rikaneefaenil: well, that means that the kernel crashed after kexec10:42
faenilshouldn't it reboot the phone in that case?10:43
faenilanyway bbl thanks for helping out rikanee10:48
faeniland dm8tbr :)10:48
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neochapayhi11:00
neochapaywhere i can get image of nemomobile for armv7l arch11:00
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neochapayhm...where latest pandaboard image ?11:26
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faenilback :)12:10
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rcgwb faenil :)12:13
faenil:)12:13
rcg;)12:13
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rcgfaenil, how's it going?12:17
faenilrcg, trying to get ubiboot to work on my n950 :( can only boot to nemo so far...12:17
rcghmm i see12:17
rcgdid you give moslo a try?12:17
rcgit at least allows you to boot harmattan and nemo12:17
rcgor do you want to have more than two options?12:18
faenilrcg, I've always used moslo dualboot12:18
faenilbut now I need nitdroid too for some personal hacking stuff12:18
rcgrgr12:18
rcgah, i see12:18
rcgwell, good luck then :)12:18
rcgnot meant sarcastically ;)12:19
faenilJonni has tripleboot working on his n950, and we can't understand what's wrong with mine xD12:19
faenilrcg, ahah :)12:19
rcgyeah, things like these can drive you nuts12:19
rcgmost of the time it's a tiny tiny thing that's missing12:20
faenilyeah :/ and I don't know much about booting stuff, so that doesn't help12:20
rcgaye12:21
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Morpog_PCdoes nemo has/supports splash screens while loading an app like harmattan?12:48
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Sfiet_KonstantinMorpog_PC: same answer :D12:59
Sfiet_Konstantinbecause the "invoker" here is the same as in sailfish12:59
Sfiet_Konstantinthey use the same12:59
Morpog_PC:-)12:59
Morpog_PCbut nemo targets different hw like n9 and n99, so a slapshscreen would need to be in different resolutions and chosen by hw adaption?13:00
Morpog_PCn99 = n90013:00
Morpog_PCN900 has 800x480 and N9 = 854x48013:01
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neochapaywhere is pandaboard image ?15:16
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juicemerikanee, I did not know you have problem booting Harmattan with l2fixed kernel?17:47
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juicemethere's something worth the try, actually. Jonni made some suggestions about fixing the watchdoggies and I do have an ubiboot version not generally released yet.17:51
juicemeIf someone (faenil, rikanee) wants to try it I would be happy to see if it works better17:52
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simonpbhi folks!17:54
Stskeepsmoo17:55
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juicemehi :)17:55
simonpbi have a general question about the boot process for nemo.17:56
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Stskeepssure17:56
simonpbwhich service/target file is nemo initiating first at boot and where do I configure it?17:56
Stskeepsuser-session@.service , symlinked to by user-session@1000.service in /lib/systemd/system/17:57
simonpband how does the systemd know about this file? or is this default systemd file?17:59
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Stskeepsit's a systemd service like sshd18:01
simonpbso it is always default for user session?18:01
Stskeepsit's part of graphical.target.wants i believe18:02
simonpbok, well I try to figure out what happens exactly when nemo is starting after extlinux found the conf file.18:05
simonpbso i can visualize this process.18:05
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Stskeeps'systemctl' should have some nice tools for that18:05
Stskeepsand systemd-analyze18:05
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simonpbStskeeps: sorry i got disconnected...18:16
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Stskeeps'systemctl' should have some nice tools for that18:16
Stskeepsand systemd-analyze18:16
simonpbok, i read about systemd-analyze and trying to dive into it right now, thanks for the hint...18:17
simonpbI got some dependency problem installing systemd-analyze because of pyton-cairo not existing in the repo18:20
Stskeepsyeah, you can probably ignore it18:20
Stskeepsit may be used for plots or whichever18:20
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simonpbok, i will try this...18:20
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simonpbgot to go now, wife is going mad here :) thx and cu18:21
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sdfanqdoes anyone know why exposing this simple qabstractlistmodel to qml doesn't work on the emulator, but works on the  desktop ? http://pastebin.com/vJ6ectJ718:25
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sdfanqI get ReferenceError: Can't find variable: title18:26
sdfanqat runtime18:26
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MMN-oHeyho, I seem to be unable to run 'lsusb' (unable to initialize libusb: -99)18:53
MMN-othis with a Nemo environment I installed today (rootfs from 20130218)18:55
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