Monday, 2013-06-10

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sledgesgood morning!09:37
sledgesback to work from holiday :)09:37
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phaeronwhat's a holiday10:39
sledgestime between "going nuts" and "fresh start" periods at work10:42
sledgeswhat's sleep?10:44
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Sfiet_Konstantinhello sledges !11:10
Sfiet_Konstantinweek ends ? what's a week end ?11:10
sledgeswas pondering, what type of breaks is enough for a human being: short term (sleep), mid term (weekends), long term (holidays) ? :)11:11
sledgesSfiet_Konstantin, hi :)11:11
sledgesto be at their max productiveness (regardless how much you love your job :))11:11
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: good questions, and I'm sure that there are a lot of papers about it11:13
Sfiet_Konstantinin "classes préparatoires", here in fr11:13
Sfiet_Konstantin(selective exam)11:13
Sfiet_Konstantinwe used to have short breaks to be efficient11:13
Sfiet_Konstantin(like naps)11:13
Sfiet_Konstantinpersonnal experience11:13
* sledges was thinking about powernaps 20mins ago ;)11:13
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: iirc powernaps are nice11:13
* Sfiet_Konstantin promised an alpha build of Friends this week11:14
sledgesif you remember correctly doing them ;D11:14
sledgesFriends for ... ? :)11:14
Sfiet_Konstantinmoaar work :D11:14
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: I will try cross platform: nemo sailfish harmattan11:14
Sfiet_Konstantinfocusing on harmattan though11:14
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: powernaps can make you win 30-40min per day11:15
sledgeshuh? :)11:15
sledgesI know those who tried powernaps, and failed, and few succeeded11:15
sledgesit's called polyphasial sleep iirc11:16
Sfiet_Konstantinand there is an extreme case of powernapping, that is sleeping 10-15 min / hour reaching 4-6h of sleep per day11:16
Sfiet_Konstantinpolyphasial sleep ?11:16
Sfiet_Konstantinhum interesting stuff11:16
* Sfiet_Konstantin sleeps a lot11:17
Sfiet_Konstantinpowernaps and stuff are not for me :D11:17
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Sfiet_Konstantin~8 :)11:20
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w00trozhkov: eventfeed-qt5 is failing in devel:mw11:35
w00tmissing a build dependency on testlib by the looks of it11:36
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sledgesxmlich02, btw, ask away if anything too complex/unclear with the beagle repo11:37
sledgesa friend of mine just bought BBB, hope things pick up even faster :)11:37
rozhkovw00t: looking into it...11:38
xmlich02i wasn't successful yet, the powersgx compilation is tricky. I have to do also regular work.11:40
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sledgessure, are you compiling locally?11:42
sledgesas the original repo which I have backedup from had all of its packages compiling succeeded11:43
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* sledges off lunch11:44
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Merbotphaeron lbt sage SR#334 waiting for review at
Merbotphaeron lbt sage SR#335 waiting for review at
Merbotphaeron lbt sage SR#334 Rejected promotion request13:38
Merbotphaeron lbt sage SR#335 Accepted promotion request13:42
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xmlich02sledges, yes I was compiling locally.14:50
sledgesxmlich02, which version?14:51
sledgesor are you talking about xorg-x11-server-sgx-bin ?14:51
xmlich02I was using mainly code at
sledgesxmlich02, ok. But once you'll bring that to work, you'll need to package it all up to have a proper hardware adaptation repo for others to use14:57
sledgesin that case, you'll be re-inventing the wheel, because the whole repo has already been very nicely packaged:
sledgesand it all compiles14:57
sledgesthe only step remaining is to figure out which versions of drivers you want to use14:58
sledgesI'm basically giving you an alternative to use Mer's Build Server and have a convenient repo as an end-product14:59
sledgessurely, if you want to understand thoroughly how things compile and work, TI wiki is the way to go for you14:59
xmlich02sledges, I want to understand it. However, I would like to use already prebuilded files if it is more easy. I would like to contribute also to community.. Unfortunately, I am busy right now.15:03
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xmlich02Currently, I am not sure how to deal with xorg ABI 12 requirement.15:08
sledgesstand by for wayland? :)15:08
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sledgesxmlich02, my approach would be to enable the existing (prebuilt as you call it) repo, get it all compiled, make a .ks pointing to that repo, bake an image and run it on the board15:10
sledgesXorg ABI requirement might come in a way, so an Xorg driver might need to be bumped up its version from a TI source15:10
sledgesso analysing build log errors, finding and repackaging newer source tarballs would teach you lots already15:12
sledgesSage, ahoj :)15:12
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Sagesledges: hi. have been quite busy with stuff. Trying currently to fix nemo devel to promote stuff forwards and to make snapshot15:15
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sledgesI saw ssu qt going on qt5 :)15:16
* sledges whistles a tune15:16
Sagesledges: :)15:19
sledgesis this what you don't like Sage ?15:19
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kaltsiSage: there's no plymouth-lite package in nemo:stable:mw, but it is in :devel and :testing.. I could use it in the emulator15:27
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Sagekaltsi: nemo:stable:* is not use atm.15:30
Sagekaltsi: testing and devel only15:31
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Sage\o/ nemo ui up from devel... :)15:52
Sagehmmp. some strange black box is in top left corner15:52
Stskeepssomebody mentioned that on pandaboard too15:52
Sageor top right in portrait15:53
Sagedid we have xwininfo? :)15:53
Sageapparently not packaged15:54
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sledgesi think they mentioned in on n7 instead16:15
sledgesgreat news Sage , is it mainly qt5 ? ;)16:16
Sagenot yet at least16:19
sledges:) so what was the hurdle?16:19
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Sagewell, new mer release broke stuff a bit16:23
sledgesa ok16:23
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Sfiet_Konstantinhello w00t and special !16:30
Sfiet_KonstantinI have heard that you are hacking on Nemo homescreen on Wayland, do you have any repo ?16:30
Sfiet_KonstantinI would love to take a look :)16:30
sledgesNemo homescreen is lipstick (Qt), do you actually mean that they are rewriting mcompositor for wayland? 8)~16:31
specialsledges: lipstick with Qt5 is a wayland compositor16:32
sledgesspecial, ... which will need to take care of gestures and animations ?16:32
specialmcompositor's behavior can be implemented in QML16:32
specialwhich that branch does, I implemented swipe in it on saturday16:32
Sagew00t: Vesuri16:32
Sagenotifications broke on nemo home?16:33
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sledgesspecial, \o/ :)16:33
specialSfiet_Konstantin: it's packaged now too, lipstick-colorful-home-qt516:33
Stskeepsspecial: got a screenshot of it from your n7 by chance, or n9?16:34
sledgesspecial, hopefully the dreaded NEMO#349 will go away as well ?16:34
specialStskeeps: well, it looks exactly the same ;)16:34
specialbut I could make a video of the n7 this evening16:34
MerbotNemo bug 349 in Home "Panning between launcher and switcher is hard." [Normal,New]16:35
* sledges : "hmmm why did I ever think that PathView was Xorg related..."16:36
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specialsledges: I think that is fixed now16:36
specialw00t changed it semi-recently16:36
Sfiet_Konstantinthat's awesome16:36
Sfiet_Konstantinthanks w00t special16:37
StskeepsSfiet_Konstantin: you should try to get that going on your iconia16:37
Stskeepsvgrade: ^ and your exo too16:37
sledgesnice, 'cause the fix is quite obvious: if there's any vertical scrolling starting, inhibit any horiz scrolling immediately ;) (easier said than done ofc)16:37
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specialSfiet_Konstantin: let me know if you have any problems16:37
Sfiet_Konstantinspecial: no problem16:37
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w00tSage: what's broken?16:41
w00toh, the window size...16:41
w00tso it only takes up part of the screen?16:42
w00tSfiet_Konstantin: may be of some interest (here be dragons and all that)16:45
Sfiet_Konstantinw00t: cool, but iconia is x86 :)16:46
Sfiet_Konstantindon't have a N950 or N9 to break here :(16:46
Sfiet_Konstantinw00t: but looks awesome :)16:47
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* w00t has to go for a bit16:49
w00thard drive swap time16:49
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Sfiet_Konstantinspecial: in which repo is colorful-home-qt5 ?16:52
Sagew00t: well the nemo ui shows constantly a black window on the screen on top of lockscreen and home16:57
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specialSfiet_Konstantin: whoa, no idea what that is.18:08
StskeepzSfiet_Konstantin: looks like you may have to zypper dup?18:09
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vgradeStskeepz: lipstick-home-qt5 up on Exo compositing snowshow browser18:47
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vgradenice work w00t special18:47
Stskeepzvgrade: photo!18:47
w00tvgrade: \o/18:47
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w00tphoto is boring18:48
w00ttake a video18:48
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w00tvgrade: ++18:59
w00tvgrade: gonna try it on the pi too?18:59
vgradefullscreen browser is flipped but composited is right way round19:00
w00tinverted_y again?19:00
vgradecould be19:00
vgradealso touch not getting to browser in fullscreen, maybe missing a -plugin EvTouch somewhere19:01
vgradeawsome work19:02
vgradea new world opens up for nemo19:02
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Morpog_what tablet was that?19:05
Morpog_ah ok19:05
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SKonstantin_N9vgrade, cheater19:07
SKonstantin_N9why I have an error :(19:07
SKonstantin_N9vgrade, are you using mer Qt ?19:09
SKonstantin_N9or yours ?19:09
vgradedid you get new lipstick-qt519:09
vgradeas well as lipstick-col-home-qt519:09
w00tSfiet_Konstantin: having problems?19:10
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SKonstantin_N9vgrade, yes19:11
SKonstantin_N9but I use my Qt519:11
SKonstantin_N9and it is not bc with lipstick it seems19:11
SKonstantin_N9cannot find a symbol related to v819:11
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SKonstantin_N9w00t, with kms plugin19:13
SKonstantin_N9not the one shipped in mer but the one I compiled19:13
SKonstantin_N9except if there is now kms plugin in mer19:13
vgradesorry SKonstantin_N9 I have your repo19:14
SKonstantin_N9vgrade, ah19:14
SKonstantin_N9i'm using next19:14
SKonstantin_N9need investigation19:14
wmarone_has anyone else seen this when building an image: Error <creator>: Failed to find package 'nemo-complete' : No package(s) available to install19:18
vgradeis nemo-complete a package or package group19:20
vgradew00t: QT_COMPOSITOR_NEGATE_INVERTED_Y=1 fixes flip19:22
wmarone_it's a group19:23
wmarone_I get the error when trying to build an image using the published nemo .ks files19:23
vgradewmarone, things have been moving around recently19:24
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w00tvgrade: :)20:00
vgradeadding  -plugin EvdevTouch to snowshow desktop also allows link clicking20:01
Stskeepzvgrade: silly question, what is free -m when you have lipstick up?20:05
Stskeepzand i presume this is the i915 exo wayland, not llvmpipe20:05
vgradeexo -platform kms20:06
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vgradelipstick -platform kms  -plugin EvdevTouch  -plugin EvdevKeyboard20:10
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Stskeepzok, bit higher than expected - ps aux?20:11
vgradeoh and long tap to close works as well20:16
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Sfiet_Konstantinhello here20:55
Sfiet_Konstantinvgrade or Stskeepz, do you know why ?20:56
vgradeSfiet_Konstantin: not really, a mismatch of libs?20:58
Sfiet_Konstantinvgrade: it is related to v820:58
Sfiet_Konstantinwhat is the v8 version you are using ?20:58
Sfiet_Konstantinqt5-qtv8 ?20:58
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Sfiet_Konstantinah yeah, you are on latest21:00
Sfiet_KonstantinI'm on next, damn21:00
Sfiet_Konstantinmaybe i should go back on latest21:00
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Sfiet_Konstantinvgrade: it works :):):)21:14
Sfiet_Konstantinwhere did you got so much apps21:14
Sfiet_KonstantinI want some !21:14
vgradeSlatekit, snowshoe in git21:17
Sfiet_Konstantinvgrade: when I try to launch something with qmlscene, it crash21:19
w00twhat kind of crash?21:28
w00tand why do you have version mismatches? everything should be compiled against what you're using unless you're building stuff by hand locally on a differently configured SDK21:29
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Sfiet_Konstantinwill check21:30
w00twhat hardware is this?21:30
Sfiet_Konstantinacer Iconia tab W50021:30
Sfiet_KonstantinAMD fusion21:30
Sfiet_KonstantinAMD GPU21:30
Sfiet_Konstantinusing Mesa adaptation (free radeon driver)21:30
w00tok, I don't know much about that21:31
Sfiet_Konstantinwhat could cause that ?21:31
Sfiet_Konstantinit works if i use kms21:31
w00twhat's EGL_PLATFORM set to in your environment21:32
vgradeSfiet_Konstantin: can you still run minimer -platform wayland on qml-compositor21:32
Sfiet_Konstantinw00t: nothing21:32
Sfiet_Konstantinhum, I installed qt5-qtwayland-wayland_egl21:33
vgradeslatekit is running nice21:33
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Sfiet_Konstantindamn, I "lost" the wayland platform plugin Oo21:36
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Sfiet_Konstantinw00t, vgrade simply because I was mixing Qt versions (the Qt devel repo is tempting)21:39
Sfiet_Konstantinand that I was using nogl instead of wayland_egl21:39
w00tah.. yeah, don't do that yet ;)21:39
w00tnemo'll move on top of it sometime soon™21:39
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Sfiet_Konstantingreat !!!!21:41
Sfiet_Konstantinvgrade: where did you got Qt5 Webkit ?21:42
Sfiet_Konstantinvgrade: do yo have a package for slatekit ?21:43
vgradeno package from slatekit just git clone, qmlscene Shell.qml21:43
Sfiet_Konstantinvgrade: where can you get Qt5 webkit then ?21:43
Sfiet_Konstantinvgrade: thanks21:45
Sfiet_Konstantinthat wayland based colorful home looks awesome21:47
Sfiet_Konstantinand the minimize effect is way better now21:47
Sfiet_Konstantinreally way way better21:47
specialSfiet_Konstantin: just the beginning :)21:48
specialthere's a *lot* we can do with lipstick as the compositor now21:48
vgradespecial: awsome work, don't know how may hours I've spent over the last couple of years trying to get mcompositor to run on various bits of hardware.21:49
cxl000vgrade, Sfiet_Konstantin I have also packaged slatekitshell21:49
vgradeand usually failing21:49
Sfiet_Konstantincxl000: ok that's nice :)21:50
Sfiet_KonstantinI'm also glad that mcompositor is not here anymore21:50
Sfiet_Konstantinit was a bit cryptic to me21:50
Sfiet_Konstantinnow that we live in a QML world, I guess that I have to work on my tablet UI again21:50
w00tSfiet_Konstantin: we're actually testing it mostly on n7 so far21:53
w00tand it feels pretty good on there21:53
Sfiet_Konstantinw00t: tablet UI ?21:54
Sfiet_Konstantinor colorful home ?21:54
Sfiet_Konstantinwould love to see a tablet UI for Sailfish though21:55
Sfiet_Konstantinso N7 adaptation is OK now ?21:55
specialwell, the normal N7 adaptation is native linux21:55
specialit works decently, although no orientation and a tearing problem21:55
specialon X21:55
w00t(which is conspicuously absent on wayland, hooray)21:56
specialI've been getting libhybris and wayland going on N7, using the android drivers21:56
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Sfiet_Konstantinspecial: ha21:57
Sfiet_Konstantinso libhybris21:57
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specialyup. That should solve a lot of other problems too, like sensors.21:58
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Sfiet_Konstantinso libhybris is more than just graphics ?21:59
Sfiet_Konstantindoes it solve the radio problem too ?21:59
speciallibhybris is basically a dlopen wrapper, that allows normal applications to link and use android libraries21:59
specialwith a bit of adaptation in the middle where needed22:00
specialso it opens up the entire android hardware abstraction layer22:00
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specialwhich means that once you have a hybris adaptation, it can be ported easily to pretty much any hardware android runs on22:04
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cxl000woot I have a modified fullscreen fingerterm for n7
cxl000w00t ^^22:05
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w00tcxl000: submit the changes as a pull request on git22:06
cxl000are there instructions on how to do that?22:06
Sfiet_Konstantincxl000: could be nicer for all the different displays all around :)22:07
Sfiet_Konstantiniconia have also a different screen size22:07
w00tcxl000: and
w00tSfiet_Konstantin is probably also helpful :)22:09
cxl000I am using/abusing settings to pass in the size through. not sure if that is the best way.22:11
w00ti'll have to see it to be sure, but, take a look at QDesktopWidget::size22:12
Sfiet_Konstantincxl000: or use rootContext()->setContextProperty ?22:14
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w00tnighty night23:17
vgradenight w00t23:19
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