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| giucam | w00t: i'm in helsinki now :) | 12:11 |
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| sledges | giucam, business or leisure? :) | 12:48 |
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| vakkov | https://github.com/vakkov/kernel-adaptation-n900 | 18:39 |
| vakkov | might be useful to sb | 18:39 |
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| smokex | vakkov: what all is working for N900 | 18:44 |
| smokex | in your repo | 18:44 |
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| vakkov | should be the same as the obs except that it is not tar-ed | 19:16 |
| vakkov | oh, and i have to fix the building | 19:16 |
| vakkov | something with the makefile | 19:17 |
| vakkov | it would build like a normal kernel... the aim is to merge it with some android stuff | 19:17 |
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| vakkov | because the 2.6.35 android kernel needs a some patching and i have no time for that .. and the 3.10 kernel i built has some problems due to dropped support of some stuff ... and many stuff such as camera and audio will probably never work with it | 19:18 |
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| krnlyng | vakkov: what do you need the android stuff for? | 19:51 |
| krnlyng | vakkov: dual booting android? | 19:52 |
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| vakkov | hybris and dalvik .. the same you need it for the n9 ? :D | 20:01 |
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| vakkov | krnlyng: i thought you knew i was also working on this ... i just don't have the time.. and with n900's 256 mb ram it sucks a little bit ... which reminds me that i have to buy a broken n9 to use its nand | 20:02 |
| krnlyng | vakkov: which approach? aliendalvik? or android chroot? | 20:03 |
| vakkov | aliendalvik | 20:04 |
| vakkov | maemo would be more suitable for chroot... i think | 20:04 |
| krnlyng | vakkov: aliendalvik won't work because we don't have a replacement for the copybit HAL module | 20:06 |
| Stskeeps | that's fwiw not the only problem | 20:06 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:06 |
| smokex | ^ | 20:06 |
| krnlyng | Stskeeps: there is more? | 20:07 |
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| krnlyng | mysatroker? mysatroker works with the 3.5.3 kernel :P | 20:07 |
| Stskeeps | gralloc is a big big problem | 20:09 |
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| krnlyng | then i suppose the nitdroid gralloc module won't help us :D | 20:10 |
| Stskeeps | also, not to mention the legal issues | 20:10 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:10 |
| krnlyng | that too | 20:12 |
| krnlyng | vakkov: forget aliendalvik | 20:12 |
| krnlyng | vakkov: lets write a replacement | 20:12 |
| smokex | but having the 3.5 kernel mostly working would be awful nice | 20:12 |
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| krnlyng | smokex: we aren't too far away from haveing a usable 3.5.3 kernel | 20:14 |
| smokex | yeah I know :P | 20:15 |
| krnlyng | filip__ managed to get audio and vibration to work | 20:15 |
| krnlyng | and also bme | 20:15 |
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| smokex | I'm using the v2 kernel with bme working | 20:15 |
| smokex | its nice to be able to stay in sailfish and charge your battery ;) | 20:16 |
| krnlyng | the only thing which prevents me from using the 3.5 kernel everyday is the issues with the modem (and wifi) | 20:16 |
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| vakkov | f*ck the legal issues, it's for the fun | 20:34 |
| Stskeeps | life is all good and fun until you have to scrap your open source codebase because some idiot wrote code he didn't own into it.. | 20:35 |
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| vakkov | stskeeps, krnlyng: can you explain in more detail.... like i were a dumb fat child | 20:35 |
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| M4rtinK | Stskeeps: well, as long as you have it in VCS with history, it should be possible to save it somehow | 20:37 |
| M4rtinK | Stskeeps: worst case roll back before it got in... | 20:38 |
| M4rtinK | but I guess it really depends on the project | 20:38 |
| smokex | nemo/sailfish has been very careful so far | 20:39 |
| smokex | and with good reason.. Apple, Samsung, Google and Microsoft are their competition | 20:40 |
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| vakkov | nokia normandy waits for nemo :P | 20:44 |
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