Monday, 2014-08-04

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locusfmorning07:52
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gabrielHi all! I have installed "nemo-n950-rnd-20140224" on my N9. And wifi doesn't seem to be working. Is it supposed to work out of the box?08:38
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tbrI guess it should, never used that particular image though08:40
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gabrieltbr: ok, thanks. When I try to bring interface up it shows "operation not possible due to rf-kill" and rfkill seems it's not installed...08:50
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gabrielanother question. Is this a good place to ask for qt-wayland on Nemo?09:04
gabriel(ask for the most updated text to read)09:05
gabriel(I have one link last updated one year ago)09:06
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sledgesgoomorn!09:09
sledgesgabriel: linky? :)09:10
gabrielsledges: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation/N9-N950/Wayland09:10
gabrielas I read "These instructions will get simpler over time" I was wondering if there is a more recent info09:11
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bencoh(or maybe they already got simpler :°)09:15
sledgesgabriel: oh we've done all the job already, that's excluding updating the wiki to point you to last info :)09:16
sledgesgabriel: that article explains how to enable wayland whilst coming from qt4/x1109:16
sledgesthe image you got already ships wayland/qt5 since the effort in ~November last year09:17
gabrielsledges: so the image I got has qt5 already enabled?09:19
sledgesyes09:20
gabrielsledges: ok, and what I'm seeing is a qml-compositor running or should I execute it?(sorry for this noob questions :S)09:23
sledgeswhat you're seeing is a compositor, yes, called lipstick09:24
gabrielsledges: oh, ok. And would it be possible to execute, let's say, qt5 qml-compositor example? I mean, something similar to this: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9022709:27
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gabrielsledges: (and thank you very much for your time and being so kind, I know these are basic questions)09:35
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sledgesgabriel: yes, try minimer (find on that page): http://martinbrook.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/2013-year-of-sailfish.html09:52
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gabrielsledges: ok, I will investigate. Thanks again :)09:55
sledgeswelcome:)09:56
gabrielsledges: mmm, I can't find anything called minimer on that page10:17
sledgessoz10:21
sledgeshttp://martinbrook.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/adventures-with-libhybris-and-andriod.html10:22
sledgesgabriel: ^10:22
gabrielsledges: np :)10:24
gabrielsledges: Thanks!10:24
sledgesyet minimer doesn't offer compositing capabilities, the wiki link you pasted is good pointer to that qml-compositor you mentioned, to study src, replicate and understand how things work10:27
gabrielsledges: mmm, correct me if I'm wrong. I have installed "nemo-n950-rnd-20140224" which comes with "lipstick" compositor which uses wayland. For that reason, I can't do: "./qml-compositor -platform eglfs"10:40
gabrielsledges: so I have to install another nemo image with no compositor so that I can execute my own?10:41
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sledgesgabriel: just stop lipstick10:48
sledgessystemctl stop lipstick.service10:48
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gabrielsledges: seems it's not loaded? "Failed to issue method call: Unit lipstick.service not loaded."10:52
sledgesgabriel: as root10:52
gabrielsledges: I did10:53
sledgesgabriel: is gui up?10:53
sledgesmaybe it was already as user10:53
gabrielsledges: yes, it is10:53
sledgestry as user10:53
sledgessystemctl --user stop lipstick.service10:53
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gabrielsledges: ok, that worked like a charm10:57
sledgesbril10:58
gabrielsledges: but what do we need minimer for then? I think I didn't understand that11:00
sledgesnot for your quest apparently ;)11:01
sledgesis for basic graphics stack testing11:01
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gabrielsledges: ok, thanks11:08
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situspiiroin: around ?14:25
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spiiroinsitu: yes15:01
situspiiroin: It turns out my device is not able to read time from network.15:02
situspiiroin: May be a bug in ofono15:02
spiiroinsitu: I have only 2nd hand knowledge about that side of ofono...15:04
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tbrwasn't it so that not every network provides that feature?15:06
situspiiroin: ok, do you know what is the correct way to test if network time is being read correctly ? It turns out that ofono-tests for reading network time are failing on Jolla  too.15:06
situtbr: It's failing for vgrade too and for him jolla reads network time correctly.15:07
tbrk15:08
spiiroinsitu: not really; all I (think I) know is that sending nitz is optional and even if it is sent some fields are optional15:10
spiiroini.e. might not be helpful for tz evaluation, but system time should be settable based on it15:11
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situspiiroin: what is the correct way to set time if we are not allowed to set RTC ?15:22
spiiroinsitu: settimeofday() should be enough; it just will not persist over reboots15:22
situspiiroin: how would the device know correct time ?15:24
spiiroinsitu: it does not, without some stable source (rtc, network, ntp) the best that can be done is: not go backwards in time @ reboot15:25
spiiroinI think timed has/had something like that (save system time to fs at shutdown, make sure it is not less than that after reboot)15:25
situspiiroin: I don't know why those folks at qualcomm don't want us to write to rtc.15:26
spiiroinfor debuggin purposes i've used previously something like "ssh x@y date --set --date=@$(date +'%s')"15:27
spiiroini.e. get timestamp on pc, force feed it to target device via date -- not sure if the options and format is exactly right15:28
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gabrielHi all! Does anybody know why while executing qml-compositor at nemo, and then executing "touch_nemo" example, this one looks mirrored?16:31
sledgesgabriel: it myst set the QT_..._Y coordinate variable16:31
sledgesgrep for it under /var/lib/environment16:32
gabrielsledges: I've tried switching QT_COMPOSITOR_NEGATE_INVERTED_Y between 0 and 1 and still the same result16:39
sledgesgabriel: did you export the variable?16:40
sledgesah, so touch_nemo is being composited? how about any other app, e.g. qmlmessages16:40
gabrielsledges: I've written it to a .conf file. Still need to export?16:41
gabrielsledges: I will try qmlmessages. I let you know in a minute16:41
gabrielsledges: omg I'm so sorry I have to go16:43
gabrielsledges: I will let you know as soon as possible16:43
gabrielsledges: thanks again for your help16:44
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M4rtinKis network supposed to be working on the N950 ?21:19
M4rtinKmeaning WiFi ?21:19
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ajalkaneworked for me a year ago, haven't tried recently21:47
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M4rtinKI got the USB networking working in the end22:37
M4rtinKbut after update the UI seems to crash after the update22:37
M4rtinKwill have to investigate it at a later time22:37
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