Tuesday, 2014-09-16

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coderus3~3~it's okay having > 40 MGConfItems in heap?06:09
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faenilmorning08:51
Stskeepsmorn faenil08:51
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T_X_faenil: thanks for the info!16:27
T_X_faenil: though, to be honest, GUI wouldn't be my personal first priority (hope that's not upsetting to you)16:28
faenilT_X_: oh, no problem at all, there's so much to work on, it doesn't have to be GUI16:28
T_X_I've been doing quite some stuff via the console on the N900, either directly or by logging in on the N900 from a laptop16:28
faenilT_X_: I don't even remember if N900 will ever get Nemo to work again...16:29
faenilmaybe sledges remembers something16:29
T_X_what currently bothers me the most with maemo cssu: all these warnings in apt about unsigned stuff, outdated packages (probably with quite some security bugs). and binary drivers16:29
faenilN900 doesn't work with the new pulseaudio iirc, plus we're missing a wayland driver which works with newer wayland, irrc16:29
locusftheres this one guy, vakkov, whos been doing a Android HW adaptation for N900, and trying to port Sailfish OS on it to run :)16:29
faenilah ok :)16:30
locusfso nemo might get some help from that16:30
faenildefinitely16:30
locusfalthough I wonder if it ever worked though16:30
faenilwell, not since we moved to Wayland/qt5/etc afaik16:30
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locusfwell the Nitdroid adaptation is using something that can be used by hybris16:31
locusfI just haven't seen vakkkov in a while :/16:31
faenil:/16:31
locusfto check on his progress16:31
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locusfalso we could probably get started on Nemo HADK at some point, once the repos come functional again16:32
locusfnow lipstick is using Qt 5.2 as requirement so it might take a while once Mer catches up16:33
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faeniloh16:33
locusfalso a lot of files/code from HADK is coupled quite tightly to Sailfish :/16:33
locusfalso the age old quest to have the newer glib for Nemo to build and mce updated too16:34
locusfunless we fork to our own lipstick somehow and build from there16:35
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locusfalthough I still don't have much idea on the current Mer/Nemo merge, what that might introduce16:36
faenil:(16:37
faenilwhat's the issue with glib?16:37
T_X_https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Status/Matrix -> does that mean that things like wifi, gprs, sound etc. are now available in upstream, vanilla kernels?16:37
locusfthe new glib is required for mce16:37
locusfbut new glib might break things16:37
faeniland mer doesn't have the new glib needed?16:37
locusfindeed16:38
faenilT_X_: see Wayland version16:38
faenillocusf: indeed it does or it doesnt16:38
locusffaenil: doesn't have16:38
faenilouch16:38
faenilStskeeps might explain why, and how long it takes for that to be fixed16:38
faenil(when he has time)16:38
locusfI already figured out the issue with sledges16:39
faenilT_X_: the X11 matrix is useless, nemo x11 doesn't exist anymore16:39
locusfthe upgrade is done in i386 first16:39
faenilbut?16:39
locusfso no armv7hl yet16:40
T_X_well, but things like wifi and gprs are kernel stuff, right? what does that have to do with X11 vs. wayland?16:40
locusfuntil the issues in i486 are fixed16:40
faenilT_X_: not directly with x11 or wayland, but maybe some chain reaction16:40
T_X_hm, maybe I should just give a recent kernel a try, maybe with a stock debian armel and see how far I'd get with that16:41
faenilT_X_: anyway, the ? means nobody tested it, so it could work16:41
T_X_faenil: hm, okay16:41
T_X_yeah, maybe I should just give nemo a try :)16:41
faenilT_X_: if you manage to get it boot on n900, let us know :)16:41
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locusffaenil: https://build.merproject.org/project/show/mer-core:i486:devel16:41
locusfthere is the new mer + merged nemo:devel:mw16:42
faenilyep16:42
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faenilah ok so first we have to get the i486 packages to build16:43
faeniland then we'll add armv7hl16:43
locusfyeah, that might take time though16:43
faenilindeed16:43
faenilbut it doesn't seem like we have a chance16:43
faenilI have to leave guys they're kicking me out of the room :D cya later! o/16:43
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locusfk cya :)16:44
locusfnice to talk to you in a while :)16:44
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