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| hedayat | w00t: Have you any idea about this error: | 10:21 |
| hedayat | lipstick: waylandwsegl.c:519: wseglCreatePixmapDrawable: Assertion `PVR2DMemMap(egldisplay->context, 0, (void *)pixmap->handle, &pixmap->pvrmem) == PVR2D_OK' failed. | 10:21 |
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| hedayat | filippz: (I know you are not here! but it might caught your attention later:P) I found an easy way to get rid of lcd panel slowness warnings. But I'm not sure if it affected performance much. | 10:49 |
| hedayat | filippz: just try to rotate framebuffer 180 degrees, so that things will appear upside-down, but in portrait mode. The driver uses half update mode in this rotation too! And lcd warnings disappear. | 10:50 |
| hedayat | locusf: if you have tried older Sailfish images, and know how much faster it should be, you can try this too; and see if it provides desired performance. | 10:53 |
| locusf | hedayat: ok, will have to try again later, at work now :) | 10:53 |
| hedayat | locusf: OK, sorry :P | 10:53 |
| locusf | hedayat: np :) | 10:53 |
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| hedayat | Can anybody help me with setting up Nemo sb2 target in Mer sdk? | 14:54 |
| hedayat | The question is simple, which one I should use for setting up the target: nemo-armv7hl-n950 or nemo-armv7hl-sb2-target?!! | 14:54 |
| hedayat | The answer seems obvios: nemo-armv7hl-sb2-target! But | 14:54 |
| hedayat | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2#N950_Nemo_Mobile | 14:55 |
| locusf | neither one works at the moment | 14:55 |
| hedayat | says: "... choose the armv7hl-n950 images" | 14:55 |
| hedayat | locusf: ! really? why? BTW, which one is supposed to work? :P | 14:55 |
| locusf | lemme watch the news, I'll give you a .ks that generates the latest mer image | 14:55 |
| locusf | the sb2-target | 14:56 |
| locusf | not image, rootfs | 14:56 |
| hedayat | locusf: So, I think wiki should be fixed. | 14:56 |
| locusf | hedayat: go ahead if you got bugs.merproject.org account :) | 14:57 |
| hedayat | locusf: I've downloaded this one: http://releases.nemomobile.org/releases/0.20130620.0.1/images/nemo-armv7hl-sb2-target/nemo-armv7hl-sb2-target-0.20130620.0.1.tar.bz2 | 14:57 |
| hedayat | Is it an "image" or "rootfs"?! :P | 14:57 |
| hedayat | looks like rootfs, but is under images/ directory | 14:57 |
| hedayat | I'm not sure if I'm familiar with Nemo/Mer vocabulary :P | 14:57 |
| locusf | oh thats like prehistorical rootfs | 14:57 |
| locusf | 2013 | 14:58 |
| hedayat | locusf: Yes, it's the latest I can find (and under latest/ directory also! :D) | 14:58 |
| locusf | lol | 14:58 |
| hedayat | locusf: Is there any images publicly available, or I should create one myself? | 14:59 |
| locusf | the wiki really needs love | 14:59 |
| locusf | hedayat: go with self-built | 14:59 |
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| locusf | just wait for the .ks, my computer isn't on yet :) | 15:00 |
| hedayat | locusf: oh... ok. I guess/hope that using this Mer sdk should be OK to build one: https://img.merproject.org/images/mer-sdk/mer-i486-latest-sdk-rolling-chroot-armv7hl-sb2.tar.bz2 | 15:00 |
| locusf | hedayat: you don't have a mersdk yet? | 15:01 |
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| hedayat | locusf: No, I've just started with the image. I hope it's OK! | 15:01 |
| locusf | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK#tl.3Bdr | 15:01 |
| locusf | check that | 15:01 |
| hedayat | locusf: Yes, I've followed that, and the link is from there. | 15:01 |
| locusf | ok good | 15:02 |
| hedayat | locusf: I've already followed that and set up SDK. | 15:02 |
| locusf | excellent you're further than I understood :) | 15:02 |
| hedayat | locusf: ah.. nice! I was wondering what should I do if you say that I should also build my own Mer SDK archive!! ;) | 15:02 |
| locusf | humm, you need newest toolchain on the sdk | 15:03 |
| hedayat | locusf: updating it using zypper should be enough, right? | 15:03 |
| locusf | no, you need to point to the devel repository | 15:03 |
| locusf | at least thats what I remember Stskeeps telling faenil | 15:04 |
| hedayat | locusf: OK | 15:04 |
| locusf | ok now I'm ready | 15:10 |
| locusf | hedayat: you need to remove your mer-core repository with zypper rr | 15:11 |
| hedayat | locusf: ok | 15:12 |
| hedayat | locusf: then? enable mer-devel repo? | 15:12 |
| locusf | hedayat: yes | 15:12 |
| locusf | hedayat: zypper ar http://repo.merproject.org/obs/mer-core:/i486:/devel/Core_i486/mer-core:i486:devel.repo | 15:13 |
| locusf | sudo ofc | 15:13 |
| locusf | then sudo zypper ref && sudo zypper dup | 15:13 |
| hedayat | locusf: I don't have ofc | 15:14 |
| hedayat | locusf: what is it? :P | 15:14 |
| locusf | hedayat: ofc == of course | 15:14 |
| hedayat | locusf: :D sorry. Not an IRC man. | 15:15 |
| locusf | hedayat: np :) | 15:15 |
| hedayat | locusf: OK, thanks. Then I can proceed with creating SB2 targets, and also Nemo/Sailfish images; right? | 15:17 |
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| locusf | hedayat: yes | 15:17 |
| hedayat | locusf: Great, thanks. | 15:17 |
| locusf | exit the sdk after the sudo zypper dup | 15:18 |
| locusf | and re-enter | 15:18 |
| Morpog_PC__ | sudo ofc :D | 15:19 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | this made me smile | 15:20 |
| locusf | gave me some chuckles too once I realized my typing :) | 15:20 |
| hedayat | ok, I'll upgrade SDK at night. | 15:21 |
| hedayat | :D | 15:21 |
| locusf | oh yeah it might take a moment | 15:21 |
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| hedayat | And I was wondering what does this command do! | 15:23 |
| locusf | hedayat: http://pastie.org/pastes/9700414/text <- download this into the sdk as mer-latest.ks | 15:24 |
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| locusf | hedayat: and then | 15:24 |
| locusf | hedayat: sudo mic cr fs -A armv7hl -o mer-latest-armv7hl mer-latest.ks | 15:24 |
| hedayat | locusf: hmmm does it create mer image, or Nemo?! (or there is no distinction anymore due to what is called their merge?:P) | 15:25 |
| locusf | hedayat: correct, no distinction :) | 15:25 |
| locusf | hedayat: after that is done: | 15:27 |
| locusf | hedayat: cd mer-latest-armv7hl/mer-latest | 15:27 |
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| locusf | sudo chown -R $USER:$USER . | 15:27 |
| hedayat | locusf: OK! wiki really needs some love. And this will be our rootfs for SB2 target? | 15:28 |
| locusf | sb2-init -d -L --sysroot=/ -C --sysroot=/ -c /usr/bin/qemu-arm-dynamic -m sdk-build -n -N -t / mer-latest-armv7hl /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc | 15:28 |
| locusf | hedayat: yes | 15:28 |
| hedayat | OK, thanks. | 15:28 |
| locusf | that should then do it | 15:28 |
| hedayat | good. after having a proper SB2 target, and creating Nemo/Sailfish images, I should start reading about OBS, etc. :P | 15:31 |
| locusf | yes indeed, you're well on your way to become a Nemo core developer :) | 15:32 |
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| hedayat | :) thanks. | 15:38 |
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| filippz | hello locusf, I'm looking what to do next as I'm thinking of trying to rotate QQuickItem and swap height & width. Have you tried that already? | 17:14 |
| locusf | filippz: nope | 17:15 |
| locusf | filippz: feel free to try it :) | 17:15 |
| filippz | did you have any luck with glesplash on P3110? | 17:15 |
| locusf | filippz: nope, gave up on it, its made for n9 only | 17:16 |
| filippz | locusf: hm, shouldn't it work on anything with egl? | 17:19 |
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| filippz | IIRC plymouth uses framebuffer directly - maybe that would work instead... | 17:20 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | lol did Jolla just copy our U idea? :D qwazix | 18:01 |
| Stskeeps | hm? | 18:01 |
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| locusf | wot | 18:01 |
| bencoh | U idea ? | 18:02 |
| Morpog_PC__ | https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2014-November/005174.html | 18:02 |
| Morpog_PC__ | The current plan is to render the icons to the physical dimensions and resolution of the target display as a post-installation step to avoid costly runtime scaling | 18:02 |
| Stskeeps | simpsons did it | 18:03 |
| locusf | ah u :D | 18:03 |
| Morpog_PC__ | It's exactly what we planed for Nemo :D | 18:03 |
| * Morpog_PC__ hopes that will be open sourced :D | 18:04 | |
| Morpog_PC__ | U idea blog post: http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=456 | 18:06 |
| Morpog_PC__ | technical implementation ideas are in the logs :D | 18:06 |
| Morpog_PC__ | from this channel | 18:06 |
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| filippz | locusf: rotating QQuickItem works just fine https://www.dropbox.com/s/dk8hkvzi5tjhz68/20141106%20001.jpg?dl=0 :) | 18:12 |
| locusf | filippz: ok, nice work :) | 18:13 |
| locusf | what did you do? | 18:13 |
| filippz | maybe we should restore these and use them: https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-configs-n950-n9/commit/1bff4390acdd27642c3a8660dd6e87d5f8991038#diff-6a697250a95280521d3f71e57982818cL8 | 18:13 |
| locusf | and we gotta fix the notifications too | 18:13 |
| Morpog_PC__ | nice | 18:13 |
| filippz | in Page.qml added x: 187, y: -187 and rotation=-90 | 18:14 |
| * Morpog_PC__ can't wait for a proper image :D | 18:14 | |
| filippz | also swapped height & width from parent | 18:14 |
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| locusf | hmm I was wishing for a glacier-home patch :) | 18:15 |
| locusf | lets not hardcode the components :) | 18:15 |
| filippz | changing all the stuff is out of my league, but I'm happy with this as proof of concept :) | 18:15 |
| locusf | ah ok :) | 18:15 |
| Morpog_PC__ | gogogo locusf :D | 18:16 |
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| filippz | locusf: maybe using PRE_USER_SESSION_DISPLAY_OPTIONS (renamed of course) is the way to go | 18:16 |
| locusf | filippz: its not used anymore :/ | 18:16 |
| filippz | locusf: that variable works on jolla too, just for the initial screen whit language selection | 18:17 |
| locusf | indeed | 18:18 |
| locusf | not for the homescreen though | 18:18 |
| locusf | because its done before the user session | 18:19 |
| filippz | locusf: it's in our interest to reintroduce it :) | 18:20 |
| locusf | yes | 18:20 |
| locusf | PRE_USER_SESSION_DISPLAY_OPTIONS is not openly implemented | 18:22 |
| locusf | so I can't see how it works | 18:22 |
| filippz | locusf: I have P3110 somewhere collecting dust, maybe I'll see about that glesplash thing. Have you uploaded your image somewhere? | 18:24 |
| locusf | filippz: nope, not yet | 18:25 |
| locusf | it requires some hacks sone in the device before it works :/ | 18:25 |
| locusf | so I can't provide any until I figure out the hacks | 18:25 |
| locusf | but if you want it I can of course upload a new one | 18:26 |
| filippz | locusf: no need, only if you think that glesplash could work on it | 18:32 |
| locusf | well Aard says it could, Stskeeps disagrees :) | 18:33 |
| locusf | and I don't have the know-how to figure it out :D | 18:33 |
| Aard | locusf: which device? | 18:33 |
| locusf | Aard: galaxy tab 2 | 18:34 |
| locusf | 7" version, wifi | 18:34 |
| filippz | locusf: to be honest - I hate Sammy and P3110 is no exception (I got it for 1,2€ - a bit too much if you ask me) | 18:34 |
| Aard | locusf: I did not say you could. I said you can use it anywhere you can get a gles context up early :p | 18:34 |
| Aard | I have no idea if that's true for that | 18:34 |
| locusf | Aard: yes and I assumed gles context means anything that can use gles | 18:35 |
| locusf | so sorry about misunderstanding | 18:35 |
| Aard | you need to initialize the graphics hardware to allow you to use gles and draw on the framebuffer. for omap that's relatively easy, for others (like qc) not so much | 18:36 |
| filippz | locusf: since you didn't mention any errors by glesplash I assume gles is working, but just needs some tweaking | 18:37 |
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| locusf | filippz: it does error out | 18:38 |
| locusf | I just forgot to mention it here :) | 18:38 |
| filippz | locusf: ah I understood you get pink image, not error | 18:38 |
| locusf | filippz: I got the pink one on n9 | 18:38 |
| locusf | on p3110, nothing | 18:38 |
| filippz | locusf: I did get EGL_BAD_ALLOC error on N9 when in portrait mode | 18:39 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC__, "The current plan is to render the icons to the physical dimensions and resolution of the target display as a post-installation step to avoid costly runtime scaling." == cool | 18:41 |
| Morpog_PC__ | qwazix, yep, just what we wanted :D | 18:42 |
| SK_work | :) | 18:43 |
| locusf | this is probably mainly for the future + hadk devices | 18:43 |
| locusf | of course it helps when using sfos on n9 | 18:44 |
| Morpog_PC__ | well, let's hope it's open source | 18:44 |
| locusf | yeah | 18:44 |
| qwazix | yeah but it is one less headache when developing apps, so good for now too | 18:44 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.amazon.com/oc/echo | 18:44 |
| qwazix | just draw everything in svg and don't bother scaling | 18:45 |
| qwazix | Stskeeps, yeah, because I needed someone to overhear me when at home too :P | 18:45 |
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| hedayat | Stskeeps: I think my last comment here is also relevant for SailfishOS (unless it is exactly what is wanted): https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-mobile-session/pull/10 | 20:42 |
| Stskeeps | hedayat: sortof; our boosted processes are 0 and above | 20:44 |
| Stskeeps | -250 is 'more likely' in our framework | 20:44 |
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| Stskeeps | it makes a little more sense when you have scary shit like android oomadjusts added | 20:45 |
| hedayat | Stskeeps: I'm not aware of android ones :P | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | look deeper | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:46 |
| hedayat | Stskeeps: ok! :) | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | http://madsquirrelapps.com/2010/06/24/what-are-oom-priorities/ | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | gets converted into oom_score_adj scale | 20:46 |
| hedayat | Stskeeps: ok, so you really want the booster processes to be more likely to be killed, compared to other user services. | 20:53 |
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| hedayat | I've started upgrading my mer SDK using mer-devel. Why it downgrades sdk-sb2-config? :P | 21:54 |
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