Sunday, 2015-12-06

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faenillbt: pingie10:49
faenillbt: I know it's weekend, but it's worth a try :) do you have some time to explain how to bring automatic image creations up again? (or at least patterns)10:50
lbtthe img system got updated in jolla and I've not upgraded the mer one for a while10:51
lbtit's on my todo though10:51
faenillbt: bonus question, does it still make sense to use Mer now that stskeeps is not at Jolla anymore? is there anyone taking care of Mer?10:51
lbtpatterns are by request10:52
faenillbt: mmm I see..ok, let's say automatic image creation can be skipped for now...I would just like to get at least patterns working so that people can build nemo images again...10:52
lbtwell stskeeps is still looking after mer-core after a fashion - though not sure he'll be as focused in the future10:52
lbtessentially we have a maintainer system setup now so that should allow the load to be spread10:53
lbtpatterns are done as per sailfishos-porters10:53
lbtjust ask what project you want them enabled on10:53
faenillbt: ideally I'd like to go back to how the situation was before the merge started, i.e. have something like mer-core, nemo-mw, n950-configs, something like that10:54
lbtnah, mer-core including nemo-mw makes much more sense10:55
lbtalso sfos is not dead yet10:55
locusffaenil: only mer patterns need fixing10:56
locusffaenil: nemo has its wayland patterns functional10:56
faenillocusf: ah, cool10:56
faenillbt: sure :)10:56
lbtlocusf: any idea what project ?10:56
locusflbt: at least ux works10:57
lbtlocusf: and would it make sense to split out the patterns into a nemo:patterns project until mer-core is a bit healthier ?10:57
faenillbt: what is the current progress of the merge?10:58
lbtfaenil: done10:58
faenillbt: ah, cool10:59
faenillocusf: lbt isn't jolla using mer patterns?10:59
locusflbt: yes it does11:00
locusffaenil: I don't know11:00
locusfwould have to check hadk ones11:00
tbrlbt: how many of the maintainers have moved on to other jobs and thus have no interest in maintaining those mer packages though?11:00
locusfthey have their own mer mirror11:00
locusf(probably :p)11:00
lbttbr fair question11:00
lbttbr: I should do a poll at some point11:01
faeniltbr: would it make sense to rebase? on what?11:01
tbrfaenil: that's jumping to conclusions11:01
tbrfaenil: I just wanted to state that I have the feeling there might be a wave of orphan packages11:01
faeniltbr: no my question was serious :)11:02
tbrI guess the real questions that need to be asked are:11:02
tbr- Does Mer have a future?11:02
faeniltbr: I really want to know if we have other options...because I have a feeling of where this is going :D11:02
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tbr- Is it easier to move to a different RPM based underpinning and benefit from a working distribution upstream11:03
locusfLeon and Philippe did suggest moving to Tizen:Core11:03
faeniloh XD11:03
locusfbut its even more uncertain than Mer IMO11:03
tbr- Is the Mer infrastructure going to stick around and will it be maintained?11:04
locusfsince I don't know how much samsung keeps it up to date11:04
tbrfrom my marginal insight, I'd be quite cautious with basing anything on tizen11:04
locusffaenil: was your email and.ber* gmail?11:04
locusfor something :p11:04
lbtI think the next 2-3 months would settle a lot of these questions11:04
faenillocusf: I'll send you the email in pvt11:05
lbtmer infra is at least community based and could be handed on (although I have no plans to leave)11:05
locusffaenil: ok11:05
tbrwhat I'm thinking, on a more theoretical basis, is if just basing on a mainstream distro would be more efficient11:05
faenilrandom thought: what about LuneOS?11:10
locusfit has been suggested11:10
faenilI've been considering switching to that project, since I've had my hands tied for, like, 2y here now11:11
r0kk3rzwell for mer to survive a potential jollaocalypse it needs to be in a state that leads other efforts in this space to be based upon it11:15
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r0kk3rzthe plasma active project comes to mind11:15
faenilr0kk3rz: we can't even keep working on nemo, and we want others to rebase on mer? :D11:15
locusflatest preview for LuneOS was last year11:16
r0kk3rzi have been trying to get up to speed on what needs to happen with nemo11:16
locusfstay alive :p11:16
locusflaundry ->11:17
r0kk3rzsfos has built up an ok community of developers, and the energy there needs to be redirected to nemo11:17
faenillocusf: ? last luneos release was Oct201511:17
locusfif they want to11:17
locusffaenil: ah wikipedia lied11:17
faenillocusf: lbt ok time to get hands dirty. Is there anything we can do *now* to improve things?11:19
locusfhmm lucien's not here11:20
lbtyeah - start contributing to mer-core - fix the unbulding packages in :devel11:20
faenillbt: now you're talking11:20
r0kk3rzi was thinking getting a working set of glacier components should be a priority11:21
locusflbt: per arch?11:21
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r0kk3rzlbt: is there a hit list somewhere?11:21
locusfSfiet_Konstantin: eyeyey hey11:21
faenilr0kk3rz: yes, but we need an OS before UI to put on it..11:21
lbt is the place where the package src lives11:21
r0kk3rzfaenil: this is true11:21
locusfr0kk3rz: faenil: exactly11:21
faenilso first we get mer up running, then we fix UI components11:21
lbt is the easy place to build/test most of them11:21
lbtsome will have bad _service links11:22
lbtsome will ftb due to bad branches11:22
faenillbt: awesome, you made me really happy, this is what I wanted to hear11:22
lbtmany need migrating to gitpkg11:22
faenilfinally something to do11:22
lbt is a touch out of date but not a lot11:22
faenillbt: interesting11:23
faenillbt: so the dash is the "reliable" info we can use to fix links right?11:23
faenilr0kk3rz: if you start fixing stuff let me know so we don't work on the same packages ;)11:23
lbtfaenil: I'm running an update atm11:24
lbtI'm not actually sure I cronned it11:24
faenillbt: oki, cool11:24
r0kk3rzfaenil: yeah might be worth making a google doc hit list or something, or a wiki entry11:24
faenilr0kk3rz: the links lbt posted are already enough, aren't they?11:25
lbtok the dash update is running takes a while to run (15-20m iirc)11:26
lbtI'll crontab that later11:26
r0kk3rznaturally obs is the master info of 'does it build'11:26
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faenillbt: np11:27
faenillbt: thanks :)11:27
lbtsure - this is what I've been working on when not depressed about losing my job :)11:28
lbtanyhow - many chores are building up so afk for a while - feel free to highlight me with issues - also logging bugs on mer bz is sane too11:29
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lbtalso, for the record, I have the domain now11:29
lbtif anyone else would like it just ask - mainly an admin thing though11:30
faenillbt: cool...11:30
faenillbt: a couple of Q11:30
lbtok - be quick :)11:30
faenilwhere can I find info about _service syntax, like what's "dumb" etc11:30
faeniland 2)11:30
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faenilhow do I trigger source extraction again?11:30
faenilfor instance, PackageKit-Qt5 is failing because it tries to download from gitorious, but _service points to mer Git, not gitorious11:31
lbtyah - submodule crap11:31
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lbtfwiw gitlab now supports mirroring - so I'd replace *all* upstream git references with a mer git reference and activate hourly mirroring11:32
lbtbut that needs someone with the source to push to mer git11:32
lbt_service syntax is a bit obscure - dumb is the tarball in git format though11:32
r0kk3rzso process is fork devel package on obs?11:32
r0kk3rzi think ive isolated a fix for buteo-mtp11:32
lbtask stskeeps in mer-core if he's around11:33
lbtall packages have components in mer bz now too11:33
faenillbt: how do you activate hourly mirroring? is there a doc for this stuff?11:33
r0kk3rzseems to just be a url issue in the _service file11:33
faenilr0kk3rz: yes, most of the things are just about fixing urls11:34
lbtfaenil: no idea - gitlab docs seem to be a bit light on it - I've only seen it in the initial 'clone repo via https' setup11:34
lbtit's another TODO item11:34
lbtok .... o/11:34
r0kk3rzunless buteo-mtp-qt5 and buteo-mtp are different things11:34
faenilthanks for the info11:34
faenillet's see if we manage to push this a bit forward :D11:34
r0kk3rzyep, queue the A-Team theme, its montage time11:36
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r0kk3rzhmm im not sure its letting me branch11:54
locusfr0kk3rz: not in obs, just fork in mer git11:55
locusfif there are source changes11:55
r0kk3rzbut problem is obs _service?11:55
locusfthat needs to be hand edited11:55
r0kk3rzbut how do i do, if i cant branch the package into my home area?11:56
r0kk3rzor i cant11:56
locusfwell thats it :p11:58
locusfyou dont11:58
r0kk3rzok, perhaps I make a list then11:59
faenillbt: so, what happens when a _service has <webhook> and <tar_git> ?12:03
faenilshouldn't <webhook> be enough?12:03
faenilor should I update the revisions in tar_git manually? (for those which are pointing to invalid revisions)12:03
locusfthey're made via wh tool afaik12:05
locusfso thats why12:05
faenillocusf: that's why what12:05
locusffaenil: taht theres webhook and tar_git12:07
faenillocusf: do you know what the right fix should be? should I remove tar_git section?12:08
locusffaenil: I do know but not right now12:08
locusfgotta eat and check out my own packages setup12:09
r0kk3rzthere are a number that are like that12:15
faenilr0kk3rz: I have rights to edit _service files, fwiw12:16
r0kk3rzi wonder whether its getting the package twice, and thus building it twice and failing12:16
faenilI have fixed build-compare, I just don't know if hand editing the _service revision is the correct fix12:16
faenilor if I will have to go through all of them again later...12:16
r0kk3rzlocusf, faenil some working packages have both tar_git and webhook12:18
faenilr0kk3rz: yeah...12:19
faenilwe need more info about how it is supposed to work12:19
r0kk3rzbut is revision tag needed to be filled in tar_git12:19
r0kk3rzbecause some arent12:19
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itdoesntmatthello, it's me, i was wondering if after all Nemomobile is going to live..12:20
itdoesntmattcit. Adele12:20
faenilitdoesntmatt: LOL12:21
itdoesntmatt:) good morning guys, i have just read logs and, as i expected, i didnt understand a lot12:21
itdoesntmattunfortunately i am not able to develop apart for some shitty little things on java, so if i can contribute in other ways let me know12:22
itdoesntmatti know i am as useless as a coat seller at the beach in august12:23
itdoesntmattbut i am here.12:23
r0kk3rzfaenil, i start to make a list of things here
itdoesntmattfor testing or whatever you like, i have n9, jolla phone..12:24
itdoesntmattand i am in touch with guys of puzzlephone.12:25
faenilr0kk3rz: cool12:25
faenilitdoesntmatt: ahha, cool, glad to hear :)12:25
faeniltesters are always useful12:25
r0kk3rzwhere do meego things live these days now gitorious is gone?12:25
faenilr0kk3rz: I think they don't :P I'm a bit puzzled about what to do with packagekit, maybe just remove the submodule? don't know12:25
itdoesntmatti will try to catch people to join the project.12:26
r0kk3rzyeah libcreds3 has broken submodule also12:26
r0kk3rzhence the list, i know whats broken, but i dont know what to do about it12:26
faenilitdoesntmatt: cool12:27
faenilr0kk3rz: hehe, yeah12:27
faenilFIXED: build-compare12:27
r0kk3rzso i guess im just triaging packages atm12:28
itdoesntmattbut guys, what would be advantages to shift on tizencore?12:30
faenilmm I think there's been some issue with the script that copied all the packages over from nemo to me12:31
faenilbecause there's buteo-mtp and buteo-mtp-qt512:31
faenilbut I think only the latter exists12:31
r0kk3rzah is that what the problem is12:31
r0kk3rzbecause only the git for buteo-mtp exists12:31
r0kk3rznot -qt512:31
faenilr0kk3rz: but buteo-mtp git creates -qt5 package, check rpm/.spec12:32
faenilso I believe they're the same thing12:32
r0kk3rzeither way the URL in the _service is pointing to something that doesnt exist12:32
r0kk3rzwhether thats because the git has the wrong url, or the _service needs changing12:33
faenilyeah, I think we can just delete the whole package on OBS, but let's wait for lbt12:33
faenilsame applies to buteo-sync-plugins12:33
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r0kk3rzthese 'broken' things, i cant see anything obviously wrong??
r0kk3rzseems to be building rpms...12:34
r0kk3rzoh wait, spec macro error12:35
r0kk3rzqtgrilo has two spec files12:40
faenilmmm that has no sources on OBS12:41
faenilI think those are the ones needing the move to tar_git12:42
faenilI don't know if we just have to add a tar_git section in the webhook12:43
faenilor it needs more than that12:43
r0kk3rzthe working packages ive looked at have both webhook and tar_git12:43
r0kk3rzso i assume it needs both12:43
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faenilmmm gstreamer is broken, but has "dumb" enabled12:44
faenilr0kk3rz: yeah, I'm just not sure adding the tar_git section is enough, or it needs more12:44
r0kk3rzone way to find out12:45
r0kk3rzbut i has no permissions to screw with service files12:45
faenilr0kk3rz: let's see... :)12:48
r0kk3rzif i can branch packages to my home area, that would be sufficient i think12:50
faenilr0kk3rz: yeah you need some rights12:52
faenilstrange that you can't do that tough12:52
r0kk3rzit seems to let me, but nothing happens12:54
faenilr0kk3rz: it seems all _service files need a "revision" to be specified and many of the succeeding ones don't even have that12:54
faenilso we have to fix succeeding packages as well12:54
r0kk3rzweird, that branch worked12:54
r0kk3rzthey do? oh ok then12:55
r0kk3rzwouldnt if 'revision' is missing it would default to latest?12:55
r0kk3rzbut yes i think most of the 'broken' ones are missing tar_git info12:56
faenilr0kk3rz: I was told it's undeterministic if it doesn't have a revision set12:57
faeniland even if it did reset to the latest one, we don't like that12:58
faenilwe want the latest tagged revision12:58
faenilnot the latest one12:58
faenilalthough I added revision to "iw" package, but it's not rebuilding (cc lbt )12:58
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r0kk3rzhmmm, how to trigger a build13:06
r0kk3rzi think ive fixed up pyotherside anyway13:07
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r0kk3rzhow do i merge request on gitlab?13:24
r0kk3rzor do i need to do on cli13:25
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faenilr0kk3rz: mm don't know, never used gitlab myself13:29
r0kk3rzmight have to learn to cli13:29
r0kk3rzfaenil, do you know how to trigger an obs build for a webhooked thing?13:29
r0kk3rzit seems to do something when I add the tar_git config, but it doesnt trigger a build13:30
faenilr0kk3rz: updating the _service will trigger rebuild13:30
r0kk3rzmaybe i need to make sure i have cibot added before i fix the service file13:30
faenilcibot has to be added to the project, iirc13:30
faenilbut that should already be done13:30
r0kk3rznot to my branched packages13:31
r0kk3rzsome let me branch, others not, seems undeterministic13:31
r0kk3rzaha, repository config was wrong, but packages still broken13:34
r0kk3rzactually, they have branched, but not quite13:35
r0kk3rzseems like something bad is happening with obs13:36
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r0kk3rzhmm i fill out tar_git info, and it still doesnt get a tar.gz of source files13:41
r0kk3rzgets a bunch of other files though13:41
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faenilr0kk3rz: what's NEEDS ADMIN for?13:43
r0kk3rzwas for something that i didnt have access to do, like editing _service files13:44
r0kk3rzwhich i can do now13:44
r0kk3rzcan probably kill that column13:44
faenilah ok13:46
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r0kk3rzaha, i think i did a merge request on gitlab13:48
r0kk3rzhas to be done from your fork, not the original13:48
faenilr0kk3rz: github is the same13:49
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r0kk3rzyeah its me being a bit of a git noob i think13:50
r0kk3rzyeah i think i need a primer on tar_git13:51
r0kk3rzive added config, but no source files appearing13:51
r0kk3rzunless its webhook issue?13:51
r0kk3rzactually yeah thats likely isnt it13:52
r0kk3rzmissing webhook config on gitlab13:52
r0kk3rzwhich is a 'needs admin' issue13:53
faenilmaybe missed libopenal13:54
faenilr0kk3rz: could be...I'm not familiar with the current setup with gitlab :/13:54
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r0kk3rzive setup webhooks before, and theres config in both obs and git13:55
r0kk3rzso i assume its the same as github13:55
r0kk3rztheres a 'webhooks' section in the gitlab project settings13:55
r0kk3rzso my guess is thats misconfigd13:55
r0kk3rzfor tracker and pyotherside, and most likely others13:56
faenilcould very well be :)13:58
faenillet me know if you get more news13:59
faenillibopenal and libquazip fixed13:59
r0kk3rzqtmultimedia submodule should be fixed14:00
r0kk3rzbut yes, i think an lbt is required for some of these14:01
r0kk3rzfixed dbus14:05
locusfgreat job guys, although this is grunt work, it needs to be done :)14:06
faenilr0kk3rz: cool14:06
faenilI think libsdl is another of the fake copies14:06
faenilwe have libsdl and libsdl214:07
faenilboth pointing to libsdl.git14:07
r0kk3rztbh it kinda magically fixed itself somehow14:07
r0kk3rzi think the mer-core project is just missing cibot14:07
faenilI don't think so, because I'm changing files and it's rebuilding14:07
r0kk3rzi branched it and it just built14:08
r0kk3rz << this one14:09
r0kk3rzactually i think it branched funny14:10
faenilr0kk3rz: in fact the log doesn't show any error, does it?14:10
r0kk3rztheres the one in mer-core, not mer_core:i48614:10
faenilit's just the config which it thinks it's broken maybe14:10
r0kk3rzso i think the i486 one just needs updating from mer-core??14:11
faenilwhy is that broken? it built fine..14:11
r0kk3rzmissing tar_git stuff14:12
r0kk3rzand maybe webhook config14:12
r0kk3rzdont know, cant look at webhook config14:12
faenilr0kk3rz: still, why is it "broken"? it got the package source and built it14:12
r0kk3rzyeah its a bit weird really14:13
r0kk3rzbut in the main file browser, it should have tar_git files and a tar.gz of sources14:13
r0kk3rzwhich it doesnt14:13
r0kk3rzthats my current assumption anyway14:14
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faenilr0kk3rz: do you see the Settings page on gitlab's repo page?14:16
faenilI can't find it14:16
r0kk3rzonly on my own forks14:16
r0kk3rznot the mer-core ones14:16
faenilusual rights crap...14:16
faenillbt_: ^14:16
faenilwe need rights, we want to fix stuff, we don't need burocracy14:17
r0kk3rzyeah i think ill take a break, and come back when we have someone to badger14:17
r0kk3rzStskeepz, you around mate?14:17
faenilr0kk3rz: makes sense, I'll keep going and fix the wrong revisions, but at the same time that's useless if the webhooks are not properly set on gitlab's side14:18
r0kk3rzfixing service files is worthy, but its hard to know when you're done if the webhook isnt working14:18
r0kk3rzfixing broken submodules is worthy too, thats mostly hunting down where mainline is now14:19
r0kk3rzthe qt ones are easy fix14:20
r0kk3rzfaenil, i think the build log is lying to us, because my branched packages dont create a log for broken _service or webhook14:24
r0kk3rzso the previous build log doesnt clear14:24
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faenillocusf: do you know how I can tell obs which spec to use?14:34
locusfyou don't14:34
locusfer hmm14:34
faenilthere are 2 spec files14:34
locusfby project name14:34
faeniland it's bitching that it doesn't know which one to use14:34
locusfcheck hadk packages14:34
Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil: webhooks ?14:35
faenilhas grilo and grilo-qt5.spec14:35
locusfthey build for separate -droid.spec14:35
faenilSfiet_Konstantin: ?14:35
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Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil: is the spec file coming from a webhook ?14:35
locusflike that14:36
faenillocusf: the problem is the spec doesn't have the same name as the pkg14:37
locusfit does14:38
locusferr which pkg?14:38
faenillocusf: read above14:38
locusfrename it to grilo-qt514:38
faenilit must have worked before...14:39
faenilanother fixed -> nemo-qml-plugin-thumbnailer-qt514:39
locusffaenil: actually it has never been built correctly14:41
locusfcheck binaries14:41
faenillocusf: so nemo has never had that package?...14:41
locusffaenil: nemo has but not mer14:41
faenilbut that's nemo's repo14:42
faeniljust copied over14:42
locusfwhere it has failed as well :)14:43
locusfsince 0.1.4 -> onwards14:44
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faenillocusf: do you know how I can prod cibot? no source appearing here
r0kk3rzfaenil, i think thats a webhook config issue15:07
locusffaenil: just save the _service file15:08
faenilr0kk3rz: shouldn't have anything to do with webhook15:08
locusfand see if the revision is legit15:08
faenillocusf: not enough15:08
r0kk3rzyou can also go into build and prod to rebuild15:08
faenillocusf: I think the git:// url is not valid anymore for github, but I don't know what to replace it with, since it's a "dumb" package15:08
faenilr0kk3rz: it's not the build, it's the source retrieval15:08
r0kk3rzshouldnt it do that when prodded to build?15:09
r0kk3rzbut if you figure it out, i have a few more projects with the same problem15:09
faenilr0kk3rz: i.e. valid _service and no source retrieved?15:10
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faenilone quite relevant problem we have is the revisions, it seems none of the _service come with a revision specified15:11
faeniland that's a problem15:11
locusfadd it15:12
locusfthat should be the revision15:13
r0kk3rzyeah thats a bit of grunt work, finding the latest tagged revis15:13
faenillocusf: ah, it's inside accounts-sso.... -.-15:14
faenillocusf: thanks15:14
faeniljusa_: would you mind having a look at that? it seems it's expecting some files which don't exist15:15
faenillocusf: no wait, you misunderstood...I need the url, I had revision15:19
locusffaenil: oh ..15:20
faenilthe revision should be the latest tag, not the latest commit15:20
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faenillocusf: do you know what Qt repo is sailfish using?15:24
faenilthe one in Mer is 2y old15:24
locusffaenil: its in mer-qt15:24
faenillocusf: thanks15:25
locusffaenil: have had gripes with SailPi about finding the correct Qt version and patching it and building the correct qtwayland version for example15:26
faenilok I have changed the repo of qtbase15:27
faenilbut I'm not touching the others until some maintainer is back15:27
locusfok good idea15:29
faeniland in fact, qtbase also fails15:33
r0kk3rzfaenil, wont this need updating?
r0kk3rzto code.qt.io15:38
faenilr0kk3rz: that repo is old, the one sailfish uses is in
r0kk3rzoh ok15:39
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faenilr0kk3rz lbt_
faenilI have finished fixing what was fixable, you can find the result on that page16:25
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faenilI need info on what to fix for the packages that fail while running gitpkg, and those that only have webhooks section in the _service16:25
faeniland those that have multiple specs whose name don't match the package name16:26
* faenil is off o/16:26
faeniland what to do with all the qt packages, which are still living in mer-qt githu16:27
faenil+ too many packages are missing revisions, even the succeeding ones...we need to automate fixing all the _service files16:28
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r0kk3rznice braindump faenil16:48
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r0kk3rzso lbt_ wanted the submodules to be removed? and replaced with mirrors?16:56
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r0kk3rzfaenil, i think those gitpkg ones need transitioning to tar_git18:11
r0kk3rzat least that seems to have worked for uuid18:11
r0kk3rzor not, so sauces again18:12
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faenilr0kk3rz: mmm but what he said is that many needde transitioning *to* gitpkg, not away20:34
r0kk3rzoh, my bad20:36
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faenilfinally I know where tar_git actually lives22:27
faenilr0kk3rz: locusf if useful ^22:27
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faenillbt_: found the culprit of the gitpkg problems, could it be that obs is not using the latest gitpkg scripts?22:47
faenilit seems it tries to download packaging from branch pkg instead of pkg-mer22:47
faenilif I specify pkg-mer in </tag>, then it works22:47
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faenil(even though I'd expect tag to be a SHA, not the name of a branch...but maybe the script converts that to the latest commit of that branch, haven't read it yet)22:57
faenilsubprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['git', 'checkout', '-f', '']' returned non-zero exit status 123:00
faenilsorry empty tag, not pkg23:00
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faenilusing pkg-mer or a valid tag fixes that23:17
faenilthough it still doesn't create/download the tarball23:17
faenilso it fails while building, because it doesn't find the tarball23:17
faenile.g. see
faenilgood night o/23:33
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