Sunday, 2017-07-23

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locusfhttp://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1531172&postcount=4811:28
T4<-itdoesntmatt> Locusf sorry for my ignorance can you please explain shortly what does this mean? Nemo is moving from mer?11:33
locusfnot really11:34
locusfits only moving from mer on qt stuff11:34
locusfall middleware is still there11:34
T4<-itdoesntmatt> So it will share the some base of sailfish, as middleware, right?11:35
T4<-itdoesntmatt> What this will change?11:35
T4<-itdoesntmatt> I mean it is just an ui level?11:35
T4<-itdoesntmatt> I repeat sorry but these things are not so easy to get if you are not a dev11:35
locusfyes11:35
locusfui level11:36
locusfunderstandably so :)11:36
T4<-itdoesntmatt> Ok. Then it will be still based on qt... Like sailfish?11:36
T4<-itdoesntmatt> What advantages do you expect from that? I d love to see nemo tu succeed11:36
malat least some of the new APIs in newer Qt11:37
locusfyes qt based11:37
locusfalso no restrictions on what apis to use11:37
locusfwe'd of course need some help with qa11:38
T4<-itdoesntmatt> Ah.. Nice.. I thought that the qt apis were bounded to the middle ware11:39
T4<-itdoesntmatt> If i can help in someway... But I am a doctor, i can help "fixing" people not bugs :P11:39
T4<-itdoesntmatt> 😂11:39
T4<-itdoesntmatt> Ps: i love the new ui designed by samZAnemesis (dont know his nick here)11:42
T4<-itdoesntmatt> @samzn You!11:44
T4<-NotKit> wish to see UI by @samzn too12:28
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T4<-itdoesntmatt> I ve got a question... Will be xperia x a reference device also for nemo, since adaptation for mer will be done by jolla?19:10
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locusfno, it will be proprietary from jolla side so I think its not very feasible to do19:38
T4<-itdoesntmatt> How can it be proprietary? Isnt all open source apart the ui?19:38
T4<-itdoesntmatt> Well i dont know if the single image and adaptation work could be proprietary tbh19:40
locusfif sources are open whats the point of having device registration (afaiu) :) ?19:43
locusfsince it will be distributed only by jolla19:43
locusfnamely sources open being for the adaptation part19:43
T4<-itdoesntmatt> Uhm i see.19:43
locusfhaving port of nemo for jolla one suffers from the same issue19:44
T4<-itdoesntmatt> Thats sad... Since who want to support jolla will just buy the license.. And if someone want to hack this it wont be so hard. They wont include drm,of course19:44
locusfthe adaptation part is closed which prevents distribution of images19:44
T4<-itdoesntmatt> :(19:45
locusflets hope so19:45
T4<-samzn> I'll put all my stuff the end of the week19:45
T4<-samzn> Sorry if I'm taking too long to push my changed19:45
T4<-itdoesntmatt> How many devs are working on nemo, right now? Have you try to push it on xda forum? Maybe someone is interested.. Plasma mobile gained some interest indeed19:46
locusf@samzn as long as it happens :)19:46
locusf@itdoesntmatt me, eekkelund, m2ko and samzn19:47
T4<-samzn> XDA isn't really a nice place19:48
T4<-itdoesntmatt> Oh..19:48
T4<-samzn> We could put it for users19:48
T4<-samzn> But seeking workforce there or developer support is like talking to a wall19:49
T4<-itdoesntmatt> Why do you think so? Isnt a good way to attract foss supported tired of android?19:49
T4<-samzn> A minority is decent but most are clueless19:49
T4<-itdoesntmatt> Ah oki.19:49
T4<-samzn> Yeah we could put a "ROM"19:49
T4<-samzn> (Photo, 1280x720) https://teleirc.mikaela.info/ZAL58RYD/file_94.jpg19:50
T4<-samzn> (Photo, 1280x720) https://teleirc.mikaela.info/KRy0KPFL/file_95.jpg19:50
T4<-samzn> I wish this could be a thing too lol19:50
mallocusf: and sometimes also me19:51
T4<-itdoesntmatt> Windows?19:51
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locusfmal oh yes19:51
T4<-samzn> Works surprisingly well, idk why the higher management of these companies are so against a true differential for their mobile os19:53
T4<-samzn> Nokia, Canonical, msft19:53
T4<-eekkelund> @locusf, mal, neochapay, mm maybe more..?:D19:56
T4<-Chipiguay> You're doing an amazing job19:58
T4<-Chipiguay> There something you need to be coded in python? :)19:59
T4<-Chipiguay> That's what i know19:59
locusfaaargh neochapay missed ...20:00
locusfhe's been a machine of sorts too20:00
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locusf@chipiguay yes pyqt could work20:01
T4<-Chipiguay> I'm not too experienced, but my SFOS apps are coded with Python+QML20:04
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T4<-Chipiguay> Where do you test your nemo code? a phone, or the VM hacked?20:07
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T4<-eekkelund> @Chipiguay I usually run on my J1 but one can test it also on VM. I made ready vm image that should work. But I think it doesn't have latest changes and it is glacier nemo, not Sam's manhattan version:) … https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Glacier#Virtualbox20:09
T4<-Chipiguay> Manhattan sounds cool!20:10
T4<-eekkelund> Instructions to try it or develop UX on top of SFOS: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Glacier/Installing20:10
T4<-eekkelund> Yeah it looks cool also :D20:10
T4<-Chipiguay> Awesome20:13
T4<-Chipiguay> I also know some c++, but I'm not very skilled20:13
T4<-Chipiguay> :)20:13
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T4<-samzn> @-Chipiguay, There are python bindings for qt if you wanna make apps20:27
T4<-samzn> Whatsup was made in py I think20:27
T4<-Chipiguay> Nemo is not going to tandem PyOtherSide+QML?20:28
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T4<-Chipiguay> If I follow this instructions: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Glacier/Installing … in the VM, I'll get a later release than the image from here https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Glacier#Virtualbox ?20:57
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