Sunday, 2018-10-28

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NeoChapaymal: in first i thinking we create some work first...11:02
NeoChapaymal: but we can in devel - use master and every commit build new package in testing build tagged commits11:03
r0kk3rzNeoChapay: dont you effectively build dev in your home project anyway?11:04
malNeoChapay: yes, the question was about the devel branch currently in glacier-home11:04
NeoChapaymal: oh....yes why not...11:07
NeoChapayr0kk3rz: maybe yes....11:07
T4<neochapay> glacier-messages - 0.2.2 … - [ConverstationPage] Add call button … - [MessgesView] Fix view big messages11:56
T4<akaWolf> @neochapay [glacier-messages - 0.2.2 … - [ConverstationPage] …], Cool11:57
T4<neochapay> @akaWolf [Cool], just test it :))))12:10
T4<meierrom> This is great! I really look forward to next year when I can start testing the real thing instead of just reading about it! :)12:13
T4<akaWolf> yeah, it's nice to have more people involved :)12:15
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coderusты нормальный вообще?21:23
T4<faenil> Eng please :)21:24
coderusare you sane?21:25
T4<akaWolf> why not>21:25
T4<akaWolf> ?21:25
coderuswhy the fuck yes???21:25
T4<akaWolf> why the fuck not?21:25
T4<akaWolf> doesnt too constructive, right? :)21:26
coderuswhy you want to change name of main component? are you sane?21:28
malthat kind of changes should be discussed here21:30
T4<akaWolf> because «lipstick» doesnt really explain the package, lipstick is a service or library or something else, but not a binary application itself. also we already have the package jolla-home, which contains binary with the same exactly name21:31
coderusliblipstick is a base of every vendor lipstick :)21:32
T4<akaWolf> okay21:32
T4<akaWolf> and still this is home screen application, not library. we need to have decision between home screens21:33
T4<akaWolf> or you prefer to reinstall packages each time when you want to change home screen?21:34
coderusthis is not android21:34
coderusthere are no homescreens21:34
coderusits complete DE21:34
T4<akaWolf> doesnt matter21:34
T4<akaWolf> we already have two packages with duplicated binaries21:35
coderusreally? sorry, ignore me then if it doest matter for you21:35
coderustoo young, too roud, too foolish21:35
T4<akaWolf> :)21:35
r0kk3rzexplaining *why* in the PR is a good idea21:35
coderusfirst create a framework to switch between "homescreens"21:36
T4<akaWolf> first step is just changing duplicated names21:37
T4<akaWolf> this make you ability to switch home screens (DEs) without reinstalling packages21:38
T4<akaWolf> just play with systemd services21:38
T4<meierrom> Wouldn't manual switching become easier without duplicate names?21:39
T4<akaWolf> yeah that what I mean21:39
T4<meierrom> coderus: we should wait with renaming until framework is ready?21:41
coderusthis is my personal opinion :)21:42
T4<meierrom> coderus: so you agree that rename must come once framework is ready?21:43
coderussure. its multi-user stage should choose which de is used21:45
T4<akaWolf> what is wrong with that if we commit that PR right now? something will break or what?21:46
coderusfirst rule of mr: create a bug and discuss.21:48
T4<akaWolf> I can create PR, no need to additional steps21:48
T4<akaWolf> add21:49
coderusno you cant21:49
coderusyou not a maintainer :)21:49
T4<akaWolf> I already did...21:49
coderusso it wold be closed soon :)21:50
T4<akaWolf> maybe21:50
T4<meierrom> If manual switching becomes easier after renaming, then why not doing it now, since we have to do it anyway later on.21:53
r0kk3rzhow are you going to handle the clash after install though?22:02
r0kk3rzjolla-home or glacier-home will need to be disabled22:02
T4<akaWolf> yeah, for now I expect to do that manually22:03
T4<akaWolf> by `rm /usr/lib/systemd/user/`22:03
T4<akaWolf> also I want to update wiki page22:04
r0kk3rzi wonder what happens if they both run22:04
T4<akaWolf> now it suggest to save original jolla package somewhere22:04
T4<akaWolf> it would be easier without those step22:04
r0kk3rzprobably not much, it'll abort when it gets the dbus clash maybe22:04
r0kk3rzor did you change the dbus service name?22:05
T4<akaWolf> hope, I didnt22:05
T4<akaWolf> n22:05
T4<akaWolf> I tried that at emulator, looks like it's enough to stop service, remove autostart entry, install new package and start service again22:07
T4<akaWolf> I expect in the future to have only one service, which can choose which home app to start22:08
T4<akaWolf> but nowadays that looks also working solution22:09

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