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locusfmorning06:10
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alinlocusf: morgen06:21
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piggzmorning porters07:18
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dr_gogeta86hi guys piggz07:26
dr_gogeta86untill no touchscreen works reliable07:27
dr_gogeta86is futile goin further on huawei07:27
dr_gogeta86:-(07:27
locusfouch07:27
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-verne.freenode.net- [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots -- please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup07:45
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alinsledges: yes when in office i will08:03
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piggzsledges: synced 162/177 repos ... so close yet so far (the last ones seem to be the big ones!)08:42
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mal-anyone with a device using QCOM_BSP please test this https://github.com/mlehtima/qt5-qpa-hwcomposer-plugin no need for manual definition of QCOM_BSP anymore09:08
Stskeepswhere was that video about shashlik?09:09
alinStskeeps: which one? I can ask the plasma people09:09
Stskeepsthe one from the kde conference09:09
sledgesStskeeps: 13:55 < nh1402> krnlyng: shashlik video http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/kde/extrafiles/akademy/2015/videos/shashlik-dan-leinir-turthra_jensen-198.webm09:10
Stskeepsta09:10
sledgesalin: use the flogse :)09:10
alinsledges: what is flogse?09:10
sledgesa bad pun09:10
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alinsledges: ok...09:13
alinsledges: ok let us do some work09:14
alinsledges: you have the link for sparse where I needed to add extra?09:14
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sledgesalin: i linked it to you yesterday, to flash-partition09:21
sledgesuse the logs09:21
mal-cannot remember who had QCOM_BSP09:23
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sledgesmal-: I won't be able to check any time soon09:27
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mal-Nokius: could you try the QCOM_BSP fix I linked?09:33
mal-maikoool: did you also have QCOM_BSP device?09:34
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dr_gogeta86mal-, QCOM_BSP is the panacea ?09:35
energycsdxsledges: what is puprose of master branch in hybris-boot repo?09:39
mal-dr_gogeta86: just for some devices09:39
sledgesenergycsdx: hybris-boot rules all adaptations, so on master it goes, hybris-10.1 is confusing and will drop09:39
energycsdxsledges: ok, so in future hybris-10.1 will be deleted?09:40
sledgesenergycsdx: yes09:40
sledgesas soon as PRs are closed09:40
sledges adjusted09:40
sledgesmanifests are already pointing to master09:41
alinsledges: you said about providing the else block...09:56
alinsledges: looks to me like is not needed an else block but a block in the if https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-configs/blob/master/sparse/usr/sbin/flash-partition#L14709:56
alinwe do magic if mrom is present09:56
alinthe only need we need to be sure the kernel &firends are installed before configs09:57
sledgesalin: i changed my words about else block few chat lines later :P09:59
alinsledges: you are right... missed that one10:00
alinsledges: ok I will show you the new block if you like it I fork and pr10:00
sledgesok10:00
alinsledges: here it is http://paste.opensuse.org/5758118410:04
alinmal-: Nokius  i added books in common10:06
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mal-alin: a new version of gps provider is no in debug branch, with that initialization code fix, not sure if it can affect anything10:23
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alin_mal-: ok.. I will trigger10:30
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alin_mal-: done10:31
mal-alin_: let me know when you have tested that version10:39
alin_mal-: now I try... I did not want to intervene thought you do it with Zucca10:40
mal-it does not matter who tries10:41
alin_mal-: it matters cause people invest time in it... and is nice to be the one who confirms the bug is fixed.. if you put a lot of time in it10:44
alin_mal-: how did you fix the init?10:46
mal-alin_: not sure if that fixes anything but not it always uses the correct set_position_mode10:47
alin_mal-: at least it does not crash10:51
alin_mal-: will it catch a lock a different issue but got the satelites in view10:51
mal-alin_: did you try after reboot just to be sure?10:52
alin_mal-: that messerwek is nice all the loging faciclities10:52
alin_mal-: I will reboot now10:52
alin_sledges: any thoughts?10:53
alin_mal-:  rebooted and works10:55
mal-alin_: wow, nice10:55
alin_mal-: I getthe buggers in view10:55
mal-such a stupid mistake and took too long to figure that out10:55
sledgesalin_: still reviewing10:56
alin_sledges: blimey... my eclectic regular expressions?10:56
alin_mal-: happens10:56
mal-alin_: I'll push the fix to master10:56
sledgesalin_: busy with other 10+ things10:56
alin_mal-: wait for Zucca to confirm10:57
mal-Zucca: ping10:57
mal-alin_: that is an error anyway so it should be fixed10:58
Zucca?10:58
ZuccaAh.10:59
mal-Zucca: force update geoclue-provider-hybris-community reboot and test if gps works without gdb hack10:59
alin_mal-: so I see what you did you got rid of the agps branch10:59
mal-alin_: yes, I forgot to remove that when I made the code11:00
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alin_mal-: can you pass something like STANDALONE||AGPS to that set position11:00
mal-alin_: not sure, I haven't managed to get agps working even on test_gps so need to look into that11:01
alin_mal-: nope you can't just looked into it...11:02
alin_mal-: line 47 https://source.android.com/devices/halref/gps_8h_source.html#l0004711:02
Zuccamal-: I think you did it! :)11:02
ZuccaIcon is flashing. I'll put the phone on a balcony to make sure.11:03
Zuccamal-: Got 6 satellites and found my position. \o/11:07
Zuccamal-: I'll report if any problems appear. Thanks.11:08
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ZuccaIs there a cli command to see gps status and location (if available)?11:11
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mal-Zucca: you can obtain that through dbus11:11
alin_Zucca: what do you mean?11:12
Zuccaalin_: I'd like to monitor the gps while my phone is on balcony. :)11:13
alin_Zucca: why? is raining?11:13
alin_Zucca: heard there is a heatwave in europe... for sure you can stay next to it and enjoy it11:13
Zuccaalin_: I'm gonna keep it there now for a while. And the heatwave hasn't hit northern countries. Yesterday we had half sun half thunderstorm.11:15
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alin_Zucca: see the bright side11:15
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alin_mal-: still something is funky about the return values of that init11:16
mal-alin_: I pushed and tagged a new version to master, please build that so log won't be spammed too much11:18
alin_mal-: yap...11:18
alin_mal-: tell me the tag too11:18
mal-0.12.99.5.411:19
mal-vakkov: could you try to use the latest git version geoclue-provider-hybris-community on maguro to see if that will solve your problem11:19
alin_mal-: i checked the documentation for init... no bloody idea what returns, except an int11:21
mal-alin_: where do you need the tag?11:21
mal-alin_: the documentation is just bad11:21
alin_mal-: you will see11:21
vakkovmal-: master or debug branch11:21
mal-vakkov: master11:21
alin_mal-: https://build.merproject.org/package/view_file/nemo:devel:hw:lge:hammerhead/geoclue-provider-hybris-community/_service?expand=111:22
mal-vakkov: I just pushed a fix there that solved n5 problems11:22
alin_vakkov: not all of them... but the gps one seems to be done11:22
mal-alin_: didn't know you can add tags there, commit ids I knew11:23
alin_mal-: ok... I am bad at git... but tags are just synonyms for shas11:24
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mal-alin_: ok11:24
mal-alin_: Zucca test that master branch version after reboot also to make sure it works11:25
alin_mal-: I wonder if you can get two calls to gps->set_position_mode11:25
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mal-alin_: not sure, also I don't know if that can be changed later on11:26
alin_mal-: maybe Stskeeps can make a review of your code and suggest improvements or what is silly11:27
alin_or he may tell us who is gps expert11:27
mal-or maybe we just leave that as it is and see of the jolla version will become open someday11:28
vakkovmal-: btw i moved maguro to cm11 (was based on cm10.3 before) and test_gps started seg faulting if it matters11:28
maikooolmal-: you were asking wether i have a QCOM_BSP device, the answer is yes./11:28
maikoool(two infact)11:28
mal-maikoool: could you try to use this without adding the QCOM_BSP to .pro https://github.com/mlehtima/qt5-qpa-hwcomposer-plugin11:29
maikooolerrr11:29
mal-maikoool: that should be fixed so manual define is no longer needed11:30
maikooolmy stuff is still broken since i went modular11:30
maikoool:(11:30
mal-ok :(11:30
maikoooli'll check if i can revert11:30
maikooolthis works on 1.1.6?11:31
maikooolmal-: what's the status on cm12, or are you not buzy with that anymore?11:31
mal-maikoool: it's already upstreamed11:32
maikooolthere a working example yet?11:32
maikooolas in: has someone already built a zip with that?11:32
mal-maikoool: my xperia pro11:32
maikoooland all is well, it 'Just Works' (tm) ?11:33
mal-it worked mostly, ril did not work and also some odd problems with one sensor11:33
maikooolbut ril was easy fix?11:33
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mal-maikoool: not sure, it does not work on aosp5 either11:33
enedilhey guys! Anyone knows what to with this? https://gist.github.com/940b780b2b531db6d16b11:34
maikooolalso: did stuff regarging qcom_bsp change with cm12?11:34
maikooolenedil: assuming you edited fixup-mountpoints, are there multiple fstab files in your device/$vendor/$device folder?11:35
mal-enedil: you need to modify the fstab files in device repos to get rid of /dev/block/platform/omap/omap_hsmmc.1/by-name/DATAFS11:35
maikooolhm, i was just thinking about the ril on the xperia z3c, that's why i wanted to try out cm1211:35
maikooolhoping that they might have some easier way to enable the ril or just included it somewhere11:36
maikooolsince is wasnt working on aosp511:36
mal-enedil: just look for any files with fstab in them from the location maikoool told and check the content and remove the one with that extra mountpoint11:36
enedilmaikoool: no fstab here.11:37
maikooolis there a device/$vendor/xxx-common folder?11:37
mal-enedil: which device?11:37
maikooolfor your phone?11:37
enedilmal-: p5100 (samsung galaxy tab 2 10.1 wifi+3g11:37
mal-enedil: just a little question are you using cm10.1 or cm11 as a base?11:38
enedil(find . -name fstab) from `droid` dir gives two files11:38
enedilmal-: cm10.111:39
maikooolyep that's the problem i had some time ago too11:39
maikooolone of those files is called recovery.fstab, the other not, right?11:40
maikoooliirc i just removed the one not called recovery11:40
maikooolthat fixed it11:41
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mal-enedil: you should use cm1111:41
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mal-enedil: sorry to tell you but you need to redo repo init11:42
mal-enedil: HADK pdf is a little outdated currently and still tells to use cm-10.111:42
maikooolcant the hadk be made opensource?11:43
maikooolassuming it was written with something like latex11:43
maikooolcontributors could PR on the hadk repo11:43
enedilGod, another 2 hours of downloading11:43
maikooolso there would be a hadk-beta pdf, that mentions for instance, cm11, and modular building, etc11:43
enedilmal-: any instructions how to explicitely get cm11?11:43
maikooolin the repo init command11:44
maikooolreplace the -b hybris-10.1 with -b hybris-11.011:44
mal-sledges: should we instruct to use hybris2-11.0 instead?11:44
maikooolalso recheck your local manifest and change branches from cm-10.1 to cm-11.0 if possible11:45
mal-maybe it's better to use hybris-11.0 before new HADK comes online11:46
mal-enedil: like maikoool said in HADK chapter 5.1 replace hybris-10.1 with hybris-11.011:46
mal-enedil: be warned, hybris-11.0 is bigger than 10.1 :)11:47
mal-it really should be cleaned11:47
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enedilmal-: how much? After getting 10.1 I had only 3 GB free space on my SSD11:48
mal-I'm checking now11:52
maikooolits not really needed to put the tree on a ssd, just a harddisk will do fine11:53
maikooolas long as you have enough ram (say 8gb+) to keep lots of the tree in disk cache11:54
maikooolthe initial sync will probably be a bit slower but not that much11:54
mal-I have used an external usb harddisk for all my builds11:55
maikooolthat's not fast :P11:55
maikooolso a ssd is indeed overkill11:56
maikooolalso: cm11 tree is 25gb, + 5 gb built files11:56
mal-my ssd doesn't have enough space11:56
maikoooli'm using a disk with some bad sectors i dont trust for valuable data11:56
maikoooli can get over the redownloading repo tree11:56
maikooolso its perfect for this11:57
maikooolas long as i commit quick :P11:57
maikoool(some bad sectors means like 30, not 50000)11:57
mal-heh11:57
mal-this laptop I use for building is also about 5 years old and it was not very fast when I bought it11:58
maikoooldamn on a laptop11:58
maikooolthat must run quite hot when compiling11:59
maikooolor when doing intiial repo sync11:59
mal-maikoool: yes, and think about the current heatwave here with 30+ degrees indoors11:59
mal-or maybe not quite that much indoors but too much anyway12:00
maikooolsame here12:00
maikoool30 degrees is too much12:00
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maikooolmy house is like a greenhouse in this heat :(12:00
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mal-same here, my windows are to south and those are only ventilation in the apartment12:01
maikooolwell at least we've got quick enough internets12:02
maikoool;)12:02
enedilThe real problem with using SSD is that my external usb drive doesn't have ext partitions12:03
maikoooli wouldn't even have started doing this if i needed to download those repo trees over like 10mbit connection12:03
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maikooolhmyeah, from my experience, you dont want to do these disk io heavy operations in a vm disk container (qcow, vmware vdk, etc)12:04
maikooolso that's no solution either12:04
maikooolmaybe raw disk format is ok12:04
mal-enedil: also when using external harddisks you need to make sure remount those with suid,dev12:05
enedilmal-: ext4 will be fine?12:06
mal-enedil: yes12:06
maikooolbtrfs also seems to work if you like that better12:06
mal-most distros automatically mount external disks as nosuid and nodev which will cause problems so a remount is needed12:06
enedilI never really used btrfs. I'll stict with that conservative option12:06
maikoooli'm not saying it's better, i'm just saying if you're a fan of btrfs, that'll work fine too12:07
enedilmal-: so this will work? `# mount /dev/sdc4 -O suid,dev`12:08
mal-enedil: I run sudo mount -o remount,suid,dev /path12:09
enedilI'll try this as soon as Gparted stops working12:10
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maikooolmal-: do you happen to know if someone's already looking into the aosp/cm12 ril problem?12:14
mal-not if locusf is looking for aosp5?12:16
locusfI am12:17
locusfbut we need help :/12:17
mal-the amount of typos in that last sentence tells that I should get some food12:18
maikoooli'll test the hwcomposer-plugin fix on my xperia sp12:21
maikooolthen make that ready enough to be called on12:21
maikooolswap the simcards12:21
maikoooland help test aosp5 on my z3c12:21
maikoooli;m getting annoyed by the fact that swiping from the far right doenst close my apps12:22
maikooolcause im on android12:22
maikoool:P12:22
locusfheheh :)12:24
piggzis it normal for 'repo sync' to want to remove $ANDROID_ROOT/rpm ?12:37
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alin_phdeswer: hi12:55
phdeswerhi alin_ !12:55
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mal-alin_: Zucca should we close the gps bug now?13:43
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sgflthello. i'm trying to get some background info on sailfishos on android devices (in particular the galaxy nexus / maguro)13:45
sgfltcan someone give me an idea why i need to flash cyanogenmod first, before being able to install a sailfishos?13:46
sgflt*image13:46
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tbrsgflt: because it reuses part of its bionic libc userspace, including drivers13:46
sgfltso the drivers are closed source?13:47
tbrthat's also why the requirements are rather specific13:47
tbrsgflt: that will depend on the cyanogenmod at hand, but at least some are usually closed13:47
sgflti'm wondering how much android i'm getting, that is all. specifically, i want to try sailfish because of the recent (eternally unpatched) android security issues13:47
tbrlike the graphics driver etc13:47
sgfltwouldn't it be possible to extract those from the cyanogenmod zip file and add them to the sailfish image? or does cyanogen have licences sailfishos does not have?13:48
sgflt(an alternative would be providing a script that extracts and adds them?)13:48
tbrsgflt: that would make the sailfish images non-trivial to distribute13:48
tbrsgflt: this is an elegant way of avoiding to deal with the question and legal implications of such distribution13:49
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sgflttrue. do you think shipping a shell script would come with greater legal implications though?13:50
tbrmany sailfish images are hosted on images.devaamo.fi and as its operator I have a strict requirement that only traceable open source builds get uploaded.13:50
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* tbr has no intention to get nastygrams from some OEM13:50
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sgflti didn't know about images.devaamo.fi, thanks13:50
maikooollol this zipname13:51
maikoool201508131337.zip13:51
sgfltby the way, is there an open phone i could buy? with the least amount (ideally 0) of binary blobs required?13:51
maikooolthis must be the best zip ever baked :P13:51
maikooolmagically now everything on this port will work :P13:51
tbrthis is not a new problem. I've had it before personally with some hardware that we hacked open. We had an extractor script and would check if someone would dump things into place. So people were free to get the files as a zipfile somewhere else.13:51
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BluesLee_mal-, alin: short note: n5 + 1.1.6 + latest dup: gps behaviour is corrected and i see satellites, thanks13:58
mal-BluesLee_: thanks for reporting14:00
BluesLee_mal- you are welcome, bye14:02
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Zuccamal-: Sorry. I was out. What I currently have in the forced package. Now I need to zypper ref && zupper dup?14:04
ZuccaOh. The forced package does not have any problems so far.14:04
mal-Zucca: do you have the debug version or the master? zypper ref and zypper in geoclue-provider-hybris-community14:05
maikooolmal-: just did a clean build with your fork of qt5-qpa-hwcomposer-plugin, all seems to be well so i guess the patch works14:05
mal-maikoool: great new14:06
mal-*news14:06
locusfso no more QCOM macros?14:06
Zuccamal-: Current version is installed by - zypper in --force14:06
maikooolit was bound to be working mal-, the zips' called sailfishos-huashan-release-1.1.6.27-UNOFFICIAL-maikel-201508131337.zip14:07
mal-maikoool: :)14:08
mal-locusf: still in .spec14:09
locusfmal-: okay14:09
mal-locusf: but not to qt5-qpa14:09
Zuccamal-: Ok. now I have version community-0.12.99.5.4-10.19.1.jolla14:09
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Zuccamal-: Works now. I'll test it and watch logs. But so far good. :)14:17
mal-Zucca: now there should not be too much of spam in the logs14:23
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ZuccaYeah. Seems so.14:26
Zuccajournalctl -fl14:26
Zucca-- Logs begin at Sun 1970-09-13 14:14:35 EET. --14:26
Zucca1970. Heh.14:26
locusfnormal14:26
ZuccaDidn't knew journald was that old software. :P14:26
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alin_Zucca: do not zypper dup yet...14:53
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ZuccaI did earlier. Then ran zypper in <package>. Has been working fo far.15:32
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alin_lbt: hi15:53
sledgesalin_: gone: http://paste.opensuse.org/5758118415:54
sledgessnooze=lose? ;p15:54
sledgesin my case15:54
alin_sledges: I do a pr just now15:58
alin_sledges: tell me something... if I have two commits can I choose a specific one for PR?15:58
alin_sledges: to be honest we may need both of them15:58
alin_sledges: I have the one for adding nemo in media_rw group15:59
sledgesPR is per branch15:59
sledgesthat one is not ok15:59
sledgesit should be done per-device15:59
alin_sledges: ok... i know what to do... do not panick15:59
sledgeslike this:15:59
sledges%define additional_post_scripts \15:59
sledges/usr/bin/groupadd-user media_rw || :\15:59
sledges%{nil}15:59
sledgesto https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-hammerhead/blob/master/droid-hal-hammerhead.spec#L1416:00
alin_sledges: I thought we did that one16:00
sledges18:59 < alin_> sledges: I have the one for adding nemo in media_rw group16:00
sledgesthen what are you on about?16:00
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alin_sledges: ignore me16:04
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alin_sledges: https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-configs/pull/3016:04
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alin_sledges: and this one https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-hammerhead/pull/116:09
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alin_sledges: I did your change you just need to merge it16:09
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sledgesalin_: commented16:14
sledgeson first PR16:14
sledgesalin_: merge thanks, i didn't receive email when you updated, so always comment there pls16:15
alin_sledges: ok I did not know ... I think I pinged you or maybe I forgot16:19
alin_sledges: the last point in the review makes no sense16:19
sledgespoint is to maximise re-use16:20
sledgesif mrom detection changes16:20
sledgeswe have only one place to modify16:20
sledgesnot billions16:20
sledgesthis is called refactoring16:20
alin_sledges: but /android/blabla has nothing with mrom16:23
alin_sledges: being mounted or not in sos16:23
alin_sledges: I think we can use mrom_path instead of mrom_check16:25
alin_and in this way we can use that as magic16:25
alin_sledges: in that way i grep only once16:26
alin_sledges: do you agree?16:26
alin_sledges: I work something now16:27
sledgesi never said last point has anything to do with /android/16:28
sledgesin the review16:28
alin_sledges: http://paste.opensuse.org/9494624816:30
alin_sledges: does not matter16:30
alin_sledges: have a look at this16:30
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sledgesalin_: cat and sed the whole cmdline is more expensive than grep16:31
sledgeswe are in pre-init here16:31
sledgesalso should't overload any device which don't have multirom16:32
sledgesand do the greasework only if they do16:32
alin_sledges: the sed we need... to extract the path to the current rom16:32
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alin_sledges: now for a one line which is in memory the difference between cat and grep is academic16:33
sledgesalin_: we will sed16:33
sledgesinside if16:33
sledgesjust grep outside if16:33
sledgesand inside do whatever prime number search you want16:33
sledges:)16:33
alin_sledges: but then if we change someting in mrom detection we probably need to change in two places rather than one...16:34
alin_sledges: then just see the updated review16:34
alin_sledges: that shall be fine16:34
alin_10 minutes left16:35
sledgesalin_: do you read the code?16:35
sledges + if test $1 = boot && {pseudocode: mrom_check is not empty}; then16:35
sledgesi don't know shell magic of the top of my head16:35
sledgesalso16:36
sledges + mrom_path=$(cat /proc/cmdline | sed 's/.*data_subdir=\(.*\)\/data/\1/')16:36
sledgesis again cmdline and again data_subdir16:36
sledgesnot re-using mrom_check16:36
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sledgeswhich already has useful data16:36
alin_sledges: has exactlyt the same data16:37
sledgesthat's the whole point, re-use it16:37
sledgesno more io operations, all's in local memory's variable16:37
alin_sledges: is ee the pseudocode is not some magic in these scripts16:38
sledgesis my poor braindump16:40
sledgesi don't know how to write bare shell16:40
sledgeswithout [ ]16:40
sledgesand such16:40
sledgeswithout googling about it16:41
sledges:P16:41
sledgesjust busy atm16:41
sledges;win 2516:41
alin_sledges: done16:45
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alin_sledges: now I need to go shall be back in 1h16:45
sledgesalin_: ok, now this has to be tested ;)16:45
alin_sledges: nope there is one more to be merged the one from last night16:46
alin_sledges: without all is useless16:46
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sledgesalin_: im not merging any untested code16:48
sledgesespecially when it looks of such magnitude16:48
sledgesanyone wants to test n5 multirom kernel update? ;)16:58
sledgesone more step to OTA16:59
pavimal-: your suggestion yesterday just to do flashboot flash boot boot.img was perfect , gave me back cyanogen mod . So I can keep on flashing to shift distro's :P17:01
nh1402sledges: hit me up17:02
sledgesnh1402: boot to 1.1.617:03
sledges(and prepare its backup, as you might brick it)17:04
sledges(the 1.1.6 i mean:p)17:04
nh1402all set17:06
sledgesnh1402: note down uname -a17:06
nh1402done17:08
sledgesnh1402: overwrite your /usr/sbin/flash-partition.sh with https://github.com/alinelena/droid-hal-configs/blob/master/sparse/usr/sbin/flash-partition17:08
tathhupavi: 2015 - now you can distrohop on a phone17:09
tathhulol17:09
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pavitathhu: Yeah I <3 distro hopping17:10
locusfhahahaha17:11
nh1402sledges: done17:11
sledgesnh1402:17:13
sledgescurl -O http://repo.merproject.org/obs//nemo:/devel:/hw:/lge:/hammerhead/sailfishos_1.1.7.25/armv7hl/droid-hal-hammerhead-img-boot-0.0.6-201508121703.armv7hl.rpm17:13
sledgessdk (enter mersdk)17:13
sledgesmkdir ttmp; cd ttmp; rpm2cpio droid-hal-hammerhead-img-boot-0.0.6-201508121703.armv7hl.rpm   | cpio -idv17:13
sledgessplit_bootimg /boot/hybris-boot.img17:14
nh1402how would one enter the mersdk17:14
sledgesnh1402: by typing sdk17:14
sledgesinstall mersdk if you don't have yet17:14
sledgeshttps://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK#tl.3Bdr17:14
sledgesi'll just finish the braindump17:15
paviSo guys whats the normal bootloader for cyanogen mod devices ? Grub and lilo are from GNU/Linux world ..whats from Droid side ?17:15
sledgesscp hybris-boot.img-ramdisk nemo@192.168.2.15:boot-initramfs.gz17:15
sledgesssh nemo@192.168.2.1517:15
sledgesdevel-su cp boot-initramfs.gz /boot/17:16
sledgesdevel-su rpm -U http://repo.merproject.org/obs//nemo:/devel:/hw:/lge:/hammerhead/sailfishos_1.1.7.25/armv7hl/droid-hal-hammerhead-img-boot-0.0.6-201508121703.armv7hl.rpm17:16
sledgesreboot17:16
sledgespray17:16
sledgespavi: cwm/twrp17:18
sledgesor for nexus devices: multirom (modified twrp)17:19
sledgesfor distrohopping :P17:19
sledgesmultirom is spreading to other devices too, slowly17:19
pavisledges: mine is xperia17:19
sledgestalk to mal- ;)17:19
* sledges goes back to his cave17:19
* pavi feels he has bugged mal- enough :D17:20
nh1402sledges: is this all supposed to be done on the phone17:40
Nokiusmal- I'm busy atm and soon on holidays17:42
locusfNokius: err wot, when did you get a job, congrats man \o/ :)17:43
locusflast time I remember you were applying17:43
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Nokiuslocusf: 7 month a go17:46
sledgesnh1402: no, on the host. ssh IP lines indicate phone17:46
Nokiuslocusf: but if u know a goof let me know17:46
locusfNokius: ah ok :)17:46
sledgesnh1402: sorry i didn't specify after you updated flash-partition17:47
nh1402in that case I won't be able to test :( , don't have linux installed yet)17:47
nh1402on the bright side touch is still working on the phone.17:48
sledgesnh1402: time to install vm ;)17:48
nh1402yh, can't really do that at this time.17:49
nh1402sorry17:49
sledgesone day;)17:50
sledgesbeing in this channel it's inevitable :D17:50
nh1402one day soon, hopefully17:50
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mal-pavi: looking at the source code with minimal hacking it wold possible to use for example Home button to get to cyanogenmod, the same way volume buttons get you to recovery18:05
mal-*would be18:05
mal-pavi: this of course assuming the modified kernel will work with cyanogenmod, I need to test that18:06
pavimal-: ahh cool :) how could I help ? Maybe I start with keyboard issue atleast . I took the xperia device only to make it smooth18:07
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alinmal-: brilliant18:39
alinworked without an issue18:39
alinsledges: i came home navigation turn by turn...18:39
alinsledges: now back to sr18:39
alinsledges: pr18:39
alinmal-: found a way to crash the gps18:40
mal-alin: how?18:42
alinmal-: start gpsinfo or something else18:44
alinthen start the browser18:44
alinmaps.google.com18:44
alinaccept... and then click on get my position or whatever means the positoin knob in page18:44
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mal-sledges: I think I mentioned the graphics bug with texts in warehouse, not that I took some screenshots and comapred those it seems that sometimes the elements on the screen might be drawn in wrong order and the back is drawn over the texts, the background appears to to consist of small pieces?18:45
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normalhello18:46
normalis there anyone here i can talk to?18:46
maikoooldepends on what you need?18:46
maikoool:P18:46
mal-alin: I think I noticed that bug once when I first tried gps with browser18:47
alinmal-: yap18:47
alinmal-: if you fix that...18:47
mal-alin: if I remember correctly it works the second time18:47
alinmal-: nope18:47
mal-I could got it to work in browser with google maps18:48
normalmaikool: i have a lenovo s 720. old phone. So i thought ill play around with it. what else better to do that to try a port sailfish to it :D. has anyone tried it before?18:48
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maikooolnot that i know, also not listed on known ports page18:50
maikooolnormal: does the phone have cyanogenmod 11 support?18:50
nh1402i don't believe anyone ahs tried porting it, and I'm not sure if anyone has successfuly ported a phone with a mediatek SoC18:50
nh1402has*18:50
nh1402or tried at all18:50
mal-sledges: and since there still exists the background bug that it looks like it's made of squares18:51
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normalmaikool: i was not able to find any cyaogem mod 11 roms for it18:52
mal-normal: is there cyanogenmod available for that phone?18:52
normaldoes that mean im at a dead end ? I am not lookin for a ready made solution? can get dirty18:52
maikooolit looks like cm7 is the latest available18:52
maikooolnot even official18:53
maikooolstrange cause it's stated to run 4.0.4 stock?18:53
normalthe lenovo rom is on 4.0.418:53
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normalwell i guess i go wading in deep end of no where. i started reading the hadk pdf. is there any other resource i should read up on?18:55
maikooolyoull get stuck pretty fast with no cm to base on18:55
normalhh so cm 11 is a mini i would need?18:56
mal-cm 10-12 are all ok18:56
maikooolcm11 is recommended though (right?)18:56
mal-currently yes, cm10.1 is obsolete basically18:57
normalok. looks like the adventure ended before it started18:57
maikooolwell18:57
maikooolthere seems to be some cm7 stuff around18:57
maikooolthere's always the possibilty for you to try and fix cyanogenmod first18:58
normalif 10 is obsoltete, would cm 7 be of any help?18:58
maikooolthen come back here if you're not satisfied with android :P (after making your own cm rom :)18:58
sledgesalin: mal-: im afk, speak later18:58
mal-sledges: np18:58
normalmaikool: i have no desire for android :D18:58
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maikoooli understand, that's why you're here18:59
mal-it might be possible to hack cm7 also, but might need a lot of work18:59
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mal-maybe too much18:59
maikooolat least there's a lenovo zip18:59
maikooolnormal: http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/downloads/ds10018818:59
maikooolseems they're very committed to this open source buisness (not really)19:00
maikooolseems to be part of a build tree in there19:00
normallenovo is nto a name i trust very much recently19:00
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maikooolah with the whole laptop stuff of bios backdoors and superfishes (not related to sailfishes)19:00
nh1402haven't they recently announced they're letting Motorola take control19:00
nh1402of the mobile division19:01
nh1402or something like that19:01
normalwell moto is owned by lenovo so who knows19:01
maikooolnormal: the zip mentions that the phone is based on a mt6577 chipset19:01
normalyup19:01
nh1402http://www.phonearena.com/news/Lenovo-will-lay-off-3200-employees-and-entrust-Motorola-with-the-smartphone-making-following-a-disappointing-financial-quarter_id7258819:02
maikooolmaybe you can search around of there's another phone with that chipset19:02
maikooolthat does have cyanogenmod support 10+19:02
maikooolthen using the lenovo zip on the page i linked try to adapt that to yours19:02
normalwhat are the chances that that rom will run on this one if the chipset is the same?19:02
maikoooldepends on how much lenovo changed19:03
maikooolprobaly not much since it's done as cheap as possible, just going along with the mediatek supplied stuff is cheapest19:03
normalsay that zip is probably the one that buils the lenovo rom right?19:04
maikoooli'd assume it is19:04
maikooolat least the kernel sources are in there19:04
maikooolwell19:06
maikooolthere is one device with that chipset that has cm1019:07
maikoool11 even19:07
normali was looking a xda right now seems there was some efferot for mt 657719:07
maikooolnormal: https://github.com/Nikolas-LFDesigns/cm_device_lenovo_P700i19:09
maikooolthis guy has used the sources for another mt6577 device19:09
maikooolported taht over to a lenovo phone, not yours19:09
maikooolbut one that seems very close19:09
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normal@maikol: thanks a million. ill try and see what i can do for my device19:10
maikooolyep19:10
maikoooldownload that zip at least from lenovo19:10
maikoooltry to gather some more device trees19:11
maikooolthen go to the cyanogenmod wiki19:11
normali tihnk i need to reading building cm first19:11
maikooolthere's a 'porting to a new device' page there19:11
normalok19:11
maikoooltry to aim for cm11 if possible19:11
nh1402normal: good luck :)19:11
maikooolnormal: here: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_porting_intro19:11
normalill be back if i can get cm11 running and pone is not bricked19:11
maikoool:D19:11
maikooolgood luck19:11
maikooolafter this sailfish porting will probably be a breeze :D19:12
maikoooland you'll be the first to do a mediatek device19:12
normalwhich means my chances of succeeding are very less19:12
maikooolif you get cm11 working, i see no reason why sailfish wouldn't19:13
normalwait specification wise both phones are the same19:13
normalexcept for dual sim part19:13
normalwhat are the chanes that using that to build and install on my phone will work?19:14
maikooolno idea to be honest19:14
maikooolbut if the dual sim is really the only difference19:15
maikooolit will work but without any sim card support19:15
maikooolwhich is pretty good for a first port19:15
normalwhat is th % that it might brick?19:15
maikooolyou could git compare the dual-sim device tree with this one: https://github.com/wiko-repo/android_device_wiko_s807319:16
maikooolcause that guy seems to have used that as a base19:16
maikooolcomparing those will give insight in the steps to take19:16
maikooolas far as bricking19:16
maikoooli think that's only possible if you mess with the bootloader itself19:16
maikooolas long as fastboot works, it's not bricked19:17
normalok thanks :D. do you remain around here?19:17
maikooolusually19:17
maikooolim in no way a cm expert though19:17
maikoool:P19:17
normalyou have already helped me a ton19:17
maikooolyou'll have better luck getting specific cyanogenmod issues answered in the channels for that19:17
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maikooolwell, if it's not about sailfish, pm me, i'll see if i can help you if you'd like me to19:18
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normalthanks a ton19:19
normalcan i add you to frends list?19:19
lardmanmaikoool: may I ask how you fixed your problem with auxv.h when building libhybris?19:19
maikooolupgrading to 1.1.7 iirc19:19
mal-lardman: 1.1.7 targer is needed19:20
mal-*target19:20
lardmanso git pull the right version?19:20
maikooolprobably HEAD-1 should already work19:20
maikooolyes19:20
lardmanfwiw I clones the repo yesterday and just did a pull, I guess that gives me "head" not sure if HEAD-1 is something more specific?19:22
lardmans/clones/cloned19:22
maikooolthe one-to-last commit19:23
maikooolwhere last is measured by time19:23
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lardmanah ok19:23
maikooolyes, head is indeed 'latest'19:23
maikooolit's a but more complicated than that but let's not get into that19:24
lardman:)19:24
alinwho is n5 here?19:25
stephgvgrade has one if he's online19:26
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mal-alin: I tried the browser with gps and actually the first time browser crashed19:27
BluesLee_alin you called me?19:27
alinmal-: ok for me only second19:27
mal-but gps provider worked19:27
alinBluesLee_: nope...19:27
alinmal-: what do you mean?19:27
alinmal-: when the browser does not crash you see it crashes19:28
BluesLee_alin who is n5 here?19:28
alinI asked for all19:28
BluesLee_alin: okay, got it. i thought you need someone to test something.19:29
mal-alin: nope, gps is on normally19:29
alinmal-: strange... here is not19:29
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mal-scummvm is quite slow to compile, takes about 30 minutes19:31
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stephgyikes19:34
alinmal-: what is that?19:36
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mal-alin: emulator for old adventure games19:40
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alinmal-: games games... thought they invented tinder for that... latest games engine19:41
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mal-locusf: I got scummcm partially running, game selection screen is visible but scaling is off and touch input is rotated 90 degrees19:52
mal-also colors are wrong19:53
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enedilguys...  I cannot setup mersdk on another drive20:38
enedilI mount my device on $HOME/sailfish20:39
enediland MER_ROOT=$HOME/sailfish/mer20:39
enedilevery time I enter sdk (or ubu-chroot), I land on sailfish folder (which should have been hidden)20:40
enedilbriefly saying - I can't really modify the mounted stuff20:40
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enedilanyone?20:46
enedilmal-: ?20:46
nh1402_it tends to get quiet around this time20:47
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nh1402_and I can't help either, never actually got that to work (although I've only tried once)20:48
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mal-enedil: I didn't quite understand what the problem is20:52
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enedilI was going to set up mer sdk on external drive20:53
Stskeepsyou probably have it mounted nosuid or the likes somehow20:53
enedilI mounted it. I can operate on files on partition.20:54
Stskeepssure, but check /proc/mounts20:54
Stskeepsit's probably nosuid, also, you need to set up permissions for your uid20:54
enedilAfter getting to `sdk`, I no longer have access to partition. I can access shadowed mountpoint20:54
enedilsurely, it's suid20:56
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enedilStskeeps: yeah, chown solved the issue21:04
maikooolmal-: you had rild issues with cm-12 based build, the rild works on when running cm12 itself?21:05
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mal-maikoool: never tried cm12.1 yet21:07
maikoooloh well21:07
maikooolgonna give it a go anyway21:07
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* sledges gets back, looks at the channel backlog, and thinks it was a very long day :D21:19
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alinsledges: so let us finish what we started21:33
stephguhoh, sounds like a threat21:34
stephgI'm going to bed, please don't kill each other :)21:34
alinstephg: I kill only processes...21:34
stephgyou must have killed the odd bit of hardware too in your time though right?21:35
stephgby 'accident'21:35
stephg:P21:35
sledgeskill -921:35
sledgesalin: so testing instructions are in the backlog21:36
* sledges still haven't read the backlog, and i think i won't, for today, a bit busy still21:36
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alinsledges: one needs the kernel too to be installed22:02
alinsledges: otherwise no zImage22:02
sledgesalin: it is installed22:02
alinsledges: the old one22:03
sledgesno22:03
sledgesfrom -next22:03
alinsledges: on 1.1.6?22:03
sledgesand you simulate initrd next to it22:03
sledgesno22:03
sledgesfrom curl22:03
sledgesin backlog22:03
sledgesyes, this has to be done on 1.1.622:03
alinsledges: nope that will install hybris-boot only22:03
alinsledges: the only thing we install is the initrd and boot.img22:04
alinsledges: one we simulate and the other we install22:04
alinsledges: let me see maybe I miss something22:04
alinsledges: technically I can reboot now but nothing will change zImage22:06
alinand the flash will fail since there is no kernel- https://github.com/alinelena/droid-hal-configs/blob/master/sparse/usr/sbin/flash-partition#L15422:06
sledgesalin: we install kernel rpm22:07
sledgesit has zImage22:07
alinsledges: when did you install that?22:07
sledgesalin: in the instructions22:08
sledges^^^22:08
alinsledges: nope I am reading the instructions22:08
alindevel-su rpm -U http://repo.merproject.org/obs//nemo:/devel:/hw:/lge:/hammerhead/sailfishos_1.1.7.25/armv7hl/droid-hal-hammerhead-img-boot-0.0.6-201508121703.armv7hl.rpm22:09
alinthis is the only install you do22:09
alinand manual copy the initrd bit22:09
sledgesalin: then i goofed22:09
alinmaybe you forgot to give it22:09
sledgesget -kernel one22:09
alinsledges: yap I did22:09
sledgesand you need img-boot for initrd only, on host22:10
sledgesthis devel-su rpm -U needs -kernel, not img-boot22:10
alinsledges: i think needs both22:10
alinsledges: https://github.com/alinelena/droid-hal-configs/blob/master/sparse/usr/sbin/flash-partition#L15622:10
alinsledges: unless I copy it by hand in place22:11
sledgesalin: yes you're right22:11
alinsledges: otherwise i will end up with the old hybris22:11
sledgesboth then22:11
sledgesbut i think multirom ignores its boot.img22:11
sledgestbh22:11
alinsledges: ok I will save this dump... [23:11] <sledges> alin: yes you're right22:11
alinsledges: all is ready now for reboot22:12
alinsledges: the flash-updater triggers by itself?22:12
sledgesalin: been a long day, only reason :P :DDD22:13
sledgesalin: if you did rpm -U22:13
sledgescheck for oneshot job first22:13
sledgeshttps://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-device/blob/master/droid-hal-device.inc#L49722:14
alinsledges: merdre Idid zypper in22:14
sledgesalin: that's the same22:14
sledges(ever better)22:14
alinsledges: booted...22:14
sledgesbooted!?22:14
alinsledges: yes22:14
sledgesi didn't ask you to :(22:14
alinsledges: first reboot22:14
sledgesyet22:14
alinsledges: was in instructions22:14
sledgesso, did it work?22:15
sledgesis kernel newer?22:15
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alinsledges: nope22:15
sledgesand you should've lost wlan22:15
sledgesthen22:15
alinsledges: i have this    2 Linux abbaton 3.4.0-cyanogenmod-g8184f29 #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jun 19 10:10:28 UTC22:16
sledges(or actually wlan will be broken if you install -kernel-modules, just saying)22:16
sledgesso22:16
sledges01:13 < sledges> check for oneshot job first22:16
sledges01:14 < sledges> https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-device/blob/master/droid-hal-device.inc#L49722:16
alinsledges: and i copied this kernel-3.4.0-cyanogenmod-g8184f29-dirty22:16
sledgesalso check which kernel vversion you have22:16
sledgesin package22:17
sledgesanyway, debugging time22:17
alinsledges: I think I can put my money on what is wrong22:17
alinsledges: media_rw does not exist22:17
sledgesirrelavant22:18
sledgesyour kernel is older than today's merge: https://build.merproject.org/package/show/nemo:devel:hw:lge:hammerhead/droid-hal-hammerhead-next22:19
sledgesof media_rw22:20
alinsledges: yes22:20
sledgesso, where's your money?:)22:20
alinsledges: I left jsut after you merged22:20
alinsledges: on no media_rw so ends up read only22:20
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alinsledges: yap nothign was written is like the flshupdate did nothing22:21
sledgesit's all root22:21
alinsledges: yes22:21
sledgesmedia_rw is irrelevant22:22
alinsledges: yes i realise now22:22
sledges$)22:22
sledgeshence why i asked to check for oneshot job first22:22
sledgeswhere it gets symlinked and so on22:22
sledgeshttps://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-device/blob/master/droid-hal-device.inc#L49722:22
sledgesbefore zypper in22:22
sledgesdo the find | grep22:22
sledgesthen do one more after zypper in22:22
sledgesthen 3rd one after reboot22:22
alinsledges: is not that  in the droid-hal-hammerhead?22:25
sledges?22:25
alinsledges: that post job is not in the kernel22:26
sledges%post img-boot22:26
sledgeslike you said, we need both22:26
alinadd-preinit-oneshot: /etc/oneshot.d/preinit/flash-bootimg.sh - job saved OK22:27
alin[23:27:13 root@abbaton:/home/nemo]: find / | grep flash-bootimg22:27
alin/etc/oneshot.d/preinit/flash-bootimg.sh22:27
alin/etc/oneshot.d/preinit/flash-bootimg.sh.failed22:27
alin/var/lib/platform-updates/flash-bootimg.sh22:27
sledgesdid this happen earlier, or just now?22:28
alinsledges: the failed is old22:29
alinsledges: the rest are now22:29
alinso this i supect is from previous boot -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 43 1970-06-12 10:02 /etc/oneshot.d/preinit/flash-bootimg.sh.failed22:29
alinthen the time is focked22:29
sledgesforget the time22:30
sledgesis it with some content?22:30
sledgescan you go through your script line-by-line?22:31
sledgesby hand?22:31
sledges:)22:31
alinsledges: no....22:33
alinsledges: i wonder.. we never umount22:33
alinsledges: the failed contains only this /var/lib/platform-updates/flash-bootimg.sh22:33
sledgesnot umounting is actually beneficial, we won't have to mount again that one time, during later boot for sdcard bits22:33
sledgeslaunch this with sh -x /var/lib/platform-updates/flash-bootimg.sh ?22:34
sledgescarefully:)22:34
sledgesi suggest by hand still:p22:34
sledgesmal-: loads of apps are not scaling well across resolutions. will improve when tablet and its sdk is out, with instructions how to scale properly, also silica will see improvements there22:35
alinsledges: /var/lib/platform-updates/flash-bootimg.sh: line 2: /usr/sbin/flash-partition: Permission denied22:35
alinsledges: bloody hell22:35
alinsledges: shall I reboot?22:36
sledgesmal-: same about the crumbled glass texture for apps backgrounds - it will improve with next update(s)22:36
mal-sledges: how about the wrong order of items, at least it seems like it22:37
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alinsledges: worked22:38
alinsledges: the permission was the issue22:38
alinsledges: but since reboots the android remains unmounted22:38
alinsledges: Linux abbaton 3.4.0-cyanogenmod-g8184f29-dirty #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Aug 12 16:38:19 UTC 2015 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux22:39
sledgesalin: so it's not executable? https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-configs/blob/master/sparse/usr/sbin/flash-partition22:39
sledgesmal-: i wouldn't expect anything else but scaling -> listview messes up order from being too narrow22:39
alinsledges: nope I suspect the permissions are set in rpm22:39
sledgesuuh, that's a bug then either way22:40
alinsledges: bloody internet slow like a dead men22:40
alinman22:40
alinsledges: what do you mean?22:40
alinsledges: usually is notmal for people to install 075522:40
sledgesand this time it wasn't22:43
sledgesso22:43
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alin_sledges: sorry stupid inet in here... worstt than in ireland22:44
sledgesalin_: just read backlog and stop apologising:p22:44
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alin_sledges: he he still downloads22:46
alin_sledges: it was but I copied by hand from archive22:48
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alin_sledges: I have download the script directly22:51
alin_sledges: so of course nobody set 0755 on it22:51
sledgespls fix22:52
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alin_sledges: to fix what?22:53
alin_sledges: I think is ok22:53
alin_sledges: when that script will come from an rpm will come with the right permissions22:53
sledges0755 in its proper git22:53
sledgesaaaaaaaaaaa22:53
sledgesyou cheeky22:53
sledgesnow i got it22:53
alin_i think i lost the internet when I explained I copied by hand22:54
alin_sledges: I will add an umount /android22:55
alin_sledges: for my piece of mind22:55
sledgesi think i lost my mind then ;P22:55
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alinsledges: ok.. so shall I add umount?23:00
alinsledges: otherwise we got it right23:01
sledges01:33 < sledges> not umounting is actually beneficial, we won't have to mount again that one time, during later boot for sdcard bits23:04
alinsledges: nope... cause what happens... is this.. "zypper dup", reboot23:05
alinthen gets to google logo, does the job, then reboots again23:05
sledgesso it reboots to some actdead thing23:07
sledgesproper job23:07
alinsledges: you know i have no idea... i know it works23:08
alinsledges: anyhow i think we are cool now23:08
alinsledges: so you have to merge the two things....23:09
alinthen I will have to do proper dhd and I am relaxed about zypper dup23:10
alinthen I suspect for ota we need pkcon magic...23:10
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sledgesota needs repos.ini magic23:13
sledgeswhich will be another grease work23:13
sledgesbecause after version --dup ssu lr will go back to bad23:13
sledgesalin: also we can't just add /boot/boot-initramfs.gz to kernel23:17
sledgesbecause that will affect all devices23:17
sledgeseven non-multirom ones23:17
sledgeswhere every never needed file counts as trash and confusion23:18
sledgestalking also about official jolla devices23:18
sledgesso we need to add it to .files list23:18
alinsledges: no idea how to do that23:18
sledgesi have23:19
sledgesand then devices who don't need the file, will add its path to delete_files list23:19
sledgesnow the problem23:19
sledges.files and delete_files mechanism is only in d-h-configs23:19
sledgesnot in dhd23:19
sledgeshttps://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-configs/blob/master/droid-configs.inc#L24523:19
alinsledges: can'twe so oneshot magic?23:19
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sledges? its way before oneshot, im talking about packaging23:20
sledgeshttps://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-device/pull/102/files23:20
alinsledges: I see you do not want to put it23:20
sledgesalin: Sage doesn't :P23:20
alinsledges: let us say for hammerhead we do nto give a monkeys23:20
sledgesbut there has been some .files transfer of functionality internally, so i will port it out23:20
sledgesalin: droid-hal-device is for every monkey23:21
sledgesout there23:21
sledges:P23:21
sledgesyou change that, jolla tablet gets it too23:21
alinsledges: ok23:21
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alinsledges: in principle can't we copy in sparse?23:22
sledgesalin: a dynamic file?23:22
alinsledges: I mean to package it there23:22
sledgesdevice's sparse tree is static23:23
sledgesor we need a backdoor into copying world23:23
alinsledges: so nothing dynamic in there?23:23
sledgesand then do it from .spec23:23
sledgesdynamic is in dhd23:23
alinsledges: now i get the comment from marko with the makro23:24
sledgeswe don't complicate things, all dynamics should be device-independent23:24
sledgesyes that was first solution23:25
sledgesbut i objected with reply23:25
alinbut probably that is the best23:25
sledgesit's way less devices without ever getting multirom or forseeable future at least :p (=jolla ones)23:25
sledgesso is better to do "doesn't_haz_multirom"23:26
sledgesso only one change per unwilling device23:26
sledgeseveryone else gets it and happy23:26
alinsledges: ok23:28
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alinsledges: ok I will go to sleep plane tomorrow23:32
sledgesalin: where's 'at too?23:33
alinsledges: ?23:33
alinsledges: dublin23:34
alinsledges: my gf still lives in dublin23:34
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sledgesok, enjoy your weekend!23:35
sledgesand thanks for all the fish:)23:35
alinsledges: np23:38
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alinsledges: let us hope by monday when back all merges are done23:39
sledgesalin: aye aye sir o723:39
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