Tuesday, 2013-07-02

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c-ariesCan I use KVM instead of VirtualBox to develop sailfish applications?06:00
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Sfiet_Konstantinc-aries: this question arises often06:04
triggerhappyc-aries: in theory it should be doable if you can figure out how to configure kvm to run the virtualbox image. I've tried with xen but it didn't pan out well06:05
Sfiet_KonstantinI guess yes, but you will have to do the shared folders and network mapping yourself06:05
triggerhappythat said, I did manage to do something very roundabout though. I installed the sailfish sdk on a xen guest VM and just used X11 forwarding over ssh to get the job done06:06
triggerhappyworked wonders mind you, but you better have a good processor and lots of RAM to ensure near-native speeds06:06
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lbtc-aries: there are other issues - we currently use virtualbox shared folders in a fairly hardcoded way :/09:00
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c-arieslbt, if you offer us SailfishOSSDK-linux-32-offline.run source code, I think it's more customizable. I hate Oracle actually...09:07
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lbtalmost all the source is available :)09:08
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lbtI don't think Oracle are being very good in OSS at the moment but we need to run on windows+mac too - so vbox is the sensible choice09:08
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xavinuxGood day people, how are you10:30
t7fine thankyou10:33
t7et tu?10:33
Sfiet_Konstantinhello xavinux10:35
Sfiet_Konstantinhello t710:35
thesignalhi all together10:36
xavinuxmuy bien gracias :)10:36
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locusfhow do I set a "property date x" to have hours and minutes of another date type? setHours and setMinutes don't work15:07
locusfthe date x comes from Sailfish.Silica.DatePickerDialog15:08
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locusfa new Date fixed it15:23
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louisdkThe hole situation about Jolla is very confusing. I really don't understand why they don't open Sailfish in the open and make the community test and help them making a great OS.17:10
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Stskeepslouisdk: for the vast majority of code, we are actually17:10
Stskeepsmer project (330 SW packages) + nemo middleware + sailfish UI = sailfish OS17:11
Yanielalso don't forget jolla isn't that well known yet17:13
Yaniel+ nothing released so far17:14
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louisdkThe Sailfish UI components is still proprietary software.17:16
Yanielwell17:16
Stskeepslouisdk: the qml is bsd so app developers can include them and adjust them for their applications17:17
Yanielwould you open the source a year before releasing your commerccial product?17:17
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diegoyamhi everyone!17:31
Nicd-hello diegoyam17:31
diegoyamis there any test/previewsailfish image publicy available?17:33
diegoyamNicd-, ^17:33
Nicd-there's the Sailfish SDK17:34
Nicd-it has an emulator17:34
diegoyami've just seen some pics of sailfish running on a Nexus 717:34
diegoyam:)17:34
Nicd-that's the Jolla folk installing it on everything they can get their hands on, it seems :P17:34
diegoyamNicd-, i know about the sdk, but i would like to test it in a real world hardware, if possible17:34
Nicd-there's no publig image for that17:35
diegoyamNicd-, hmm17:35
Nicd-public*17:35
diegoyamNicd-, and probably no plans for that,17:35
diegoyamat least before their first launch, i guess :/17:35
Nicd-"when it's ready"™ ;)17:37
diegoyamhahaa17:37
diegoyamubuntu folks seens to be following a more "open" approach17:38
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Morpog_PCof course, lol, they use stuff from Jolla employes (libhybris by Stskeeps) to reach their goal. Also haven't you read about the controversial of MIR display server instead of using wayland like everyone else in the lunix world?18:06
Morpog_PCdiegoyam ^^18:07
Stskeepslet's not get inflammatory guys..18:07
Morpog_PCjust stated a few facts ;)18:07
Stskeepscanonical has changed their act and is actively participating in upstream libhybris, we're all benefiting from eachother's work18:07
Stskeepsthe bigger dent we can make in android's dominance in hardware adaptations the better18:07
Morpog_PCsure now, but not at the time they went public and got media coverage..18:08
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diegoyamMorpog_PC, yeah, i've been reading about mir/wayland...18:33
diegoyamthat's is not the point, but ok..18:33
diegoyami agree with in some points18:33
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stephgwoo for emails :)18:37
stephg(even if the tracking link isn't working)18:37
Nicd-the tracking link is for the future18:38
stephgI look forward to the future!18:39
mhall119don't we all18:40
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Sfiet_Konstantinso, are Jolla phones shipping ?18:46
Sfiet_Konstantinwhat's the exclusive other part ?18:46
Sfiet_Konstantin:Q___18:47
Morpog_PCSfiet_Konstantin, ask the guys sitting next to you :)18:47
Sfiet_KonstantinI'm alone in my room :(:(18:47
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Sfiet_Konstantinand unable to see the beautiful jolla devices :(:(:(18:47
Morpog_PChaha, I'm sure they smelled our trohan horse masterplan then :)18:47
Morpog_PCtrojan18:48
Morpog_PCSfiet_Konstantin, are you working on nemo scial there?18:48
Sfiet_Konstantinwell ... Honestly, today was the setup day :D18:49
Sfiet_Konstantinbut I will work on social stuff, inded18:49
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Morpog_PCgot to setup your own workstation?18:49
Nicd-which country is Sfiet_Konstantin working in?18:49
Sfiet_Konstantinyour country Nicd-18:50
Sfiet_Konstantin:D18:50
Morpog_PCWe do that with our internship guys too :)18:50
Nicd-welcome to finland :)18:50
Nicd-tampere?18:50
Sfiet_Konstantinyeah18:50
Nicd-\o/18:50
Sfiet_Konstantinforgot to say: "your city" :)18:50
Nicd-welcome to tampere, too :)18:51
Sfiet_Konstantin:)18:51
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