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| BBLobster | Hi | 06:14 |
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| carepack | good morning | 06:16 |
| BBLobster | Is there any way to cache images downloaded via url in Image component? | 06:17 |
| carepack | ? | 06:17 |
| BBLobster | I have chat messenger where all users have avatars. At every start of my app I have to download those images with takes a lot of time | 06:18 |
| BBLobster | But those avatars dont change frequent | 06:19 |
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| BBLobster | So may be someone already implemented such component that cached images? | 06:21 |
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| chriadam | BBLobster: it's not supported API for third party developers, but there is https://github.com/nemomobile/libsocialcache which implements something very similar. | 06:22 |
| chriadam | but you can't merely use Image elements, unfortunately. | 06:22 |
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| BBLobster | thanks, it is look like what I need | 06:31 |
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| Armadillo | doesn't the http client respect the caching times form the http headers? | 06:48 |
| Armadillo | *from | 06:48 |
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| coderus | BBLobster: make your own cache | 07:21 |
| coderus | it's best idea to cache your images to standardpath cache location | 07:21 |
| coderus | create image provider with caching | 07:22 |
| chriadam | ^ that's the best solution, yes. | 07:25 |
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| Armadillo | damn | 07:38 |
| Armadillo | I forgot to save my old harbour changelog | 07:39 |
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| coderus | Armadillo: thats why there is spec changelog entries for good maintainers, who cares :D | 07:54 |
| Armadillo | ^^ | 07:55 |
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| Armadillo | maybe there's a way to dump it on the device as the new version still is in qa | 07:56 |
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| coderus | get it from jolla store on device? | 07:58 |
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| Armadillo | in the store client yes, but how to extract? | 08:03 |
| TemeV | Armadillo: with screenshot :p | 08:04 |
| Armadillo | lol | 08:04 |
| TemeV | and then you can use the ocr app in store | 08:04 |
| Armadillo | hm well, worth a try :D | 08:04 |
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| locusf | ha | 08:04 |
| Armadillo | hm no, doesn't work | 08:07 |
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| onla | would it be possible to install one of the tox clients to the jolla phone without much trouble? They have multiple clients for linux (toxic, qtox, utox..) android client antox etc. https://wiki.tox.im/Binaries | 08:54 |
| Nicd- | there is one in openrepos | 08:56 |
| Nicd- | https://openrepos.net/content/krobelus/cyanide | 08:56 |
| onla | ah thanks | 08:57 |
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| onla | Then I am looking for an app that connects with textsecure on android and signal on IOS. I find some mitakuuluu3 but not sure if that is such | 09:15 |
| Nicd- | mitäkuuluu3 is a whatsapp client | 09:16 |
| Nicd- | it supports textsecure as that is what whatsapp uses for encryption | 09:16 |
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| onla | yep yep. So no luck there. I heard some of the android apps work on jolla, so maybe that could work? Also the source code of textsecure/signal is open source, but a company called open whispers is developing it, so I don't know if I could do a fork of it to jolla | 09:19 |
| Nicd- | depends on the licence of the code | 09:20 |
| Nicd- | most android apps that don't use google services work fine | 09:20 |
| Nicd- | if they do use google services, you need to install gapps before using thme | 09:20 |
| Nicd- | them* | 09:20 |
| onla | I see | 09:22 |
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| coderus | Armadillo: parch store-client qml and add button to copy changelog to clipboard :) | 10:41 |
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| Armadillo | lol | 10:41 |
| Armadillo | not bad | 10:41 |
| Armadillo | but I copied it already "manually" :) | 10:42 |
| coderus | :D | 10:42 |
| Armadillo | next time I'll try your solution ;D | 10:42 |
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| tortoisedoc | could someone help my understanding of invoker? | 12:46 |
| tortoisedoc | what's the point for the -n command line switch? | 12:46 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | tortoisedoc: without -n invoker will wait for the window (?) to appear before quitting | 12:51 |
| SfietKonstantinW | but with -n it is "fire and forget" | 12:52 |
| SfietKonstantinW | no-matter if the spawned process has died, or shown anything | 12:52 |
| tortoisedoc | SfietKonstantinW : ok i see, so -n is for "use booster like it would not be a booster" | 12:52 |
| SfietKonstantinW | no it is | 12:52 |
| SfietKonstantinW | but you don't have any control of "if the application have been boosted" | 12:53 |
| SfietKonstantinW | eh | 12:53 |
| SfietKonstantinW | no if the boosted application have succeded | 12:53 |
| SfietKonstantinW | or even launched | 12:53 |
| SfietKonstantinW | you can boost an app that have cannot find a shared library | 12:53 |
| SfietKonstantinW | if without -n, booster will wait for the app to fail | 12:53 |
| SfietKonstantinW | (and maybe return an error code) | 12:53 |
| SfietKonstantinW | with -n invoker don't care | 12:54 |
| tortoisedoc | SfietKonstantinW : ok thanks | 12:55 |
| tortoisedoc | I think I still do not completely see the use of this | 12:55 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | me neither :D | 12:56 |
| SfietKonstantinW | don't use it ? | 12:56 |
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| onla | Why is jolla's tech department needed for such simple and important thing on an open source OS like this https://together.jolla.com/question/18957/difficult-to-use-the-phone-in-bright-sunlight-need-for-blackwhite-and-or-high-contrast-ambience/ | 12:58 |
| Nicd- | onla: because the UI is not open source I presume | 13:00 |
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| onla | is the UI comparable to desktop environment in desktop pc. I am not the smartest man out there, but I am trying to figure out which parts here are closed :) I guess it has to do with the touch screen interacting with the OS, but hmm | 13:11 |
| onla | like linux has the distro, then the window manager e.g. X, then DE, then window manager | 13:11 |
| onla | oops | 13:11 |
| Vae_DuckZ | since when I moved to italy I have the same problem | 13:12 |
| Vae_DuckZ | sunlight is so much stronger than in north europe here | 13:13 |
| onla | distro -> window system -> destkop env. -> window manager .. or maybe not | 13:13 |
| TemeV | onla: it is not that straight forward comparison to desktop Linux, but basically Jolla's default apps and top layer of "desktop environment" is closed | 13:15 |
| TemeV | And there is some rumors of Jolla open sourcing more | 13:16 |
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| onla | they would attract more if they could advertise it similarly as neo900 could I guess, and what they would only lose is others stealing their UI? Don't ya think total open sourceness is a bigger asset than that UI being unique in the market | 13:20 |
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| onla | cheap phone with good specs compared to that neo | 13:20 |
| onla | but maybe that neo has something more that the hacker likes though but anyway | 13:22 |
| TemeV | onla: this matter has been discussed quazillion times :) Even every Jolla employer want's to open source it | 13:22 |
| onla | oh heh | 13:23 |
| TemeV | And it will happen when it is economically possible | 13:23 |
| TemeV | Jolla is a company after all, and main purpose of a company is to make money | 13:23 |
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| coderus | licensing, patents and other stuff should be done to allow usage on some conditions. | 13:29 |
| onla | wonder if there are many issues like that sunlight problem, where users are left handcuffed for one and a half year. Guess not many that seem this important I guess | 13:29 |
| chem|st | coderus: no patents please... | 13:30 |
| chem|st | onla: auto brightness is far away from important | 13:30 |
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| onla | I understood that the problem is that you can't get it bright like you get iphone or one of the android phones even manually from the settings. Just bringing it up, cus this issue would affect me quite much too :) | 13:33 |
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| TemeV | well, poor display is quite common problem with phones | 13:34 |
| onla | guess even that problem's importance is subjective tho | 13:34 |
| chem|st | onla: that is not true, I use it on manual brightness because it stays dark for too long when I pull it out of my pocket, sure transreflective would be nice... but wfm | 13:34 |
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| onla | and you could read on sunlight as well as with another phone? | 13:36 |
| chem|st | to not have transreflective screens in >2010 on a phone is a bad choice of display, you may say that display manufacturers should not offer something else though! | 13:36 |
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| chem|st | onla: I can read well, N9 or n900 screens are better in sunlight, others I do not compare, I will not downgrade for a screen feature | 13:37 |
| chem|st | s/screen/display/ | 13:37 |
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| onla | what I understood, that one can't make a theme that would allow you to choose the font or use a bolded font without jolla tech team working on it | 13:39 |
| chem|st | my brightness is around 40% btw... my ambiance is high contrast though, and direct sunlight needs some >60%, well lets try that... | 13:39 |
| TemeV | onla: problem for them is black on white theme is not possible without hacking something | 13:40 |
| chem|st | my brightness was at 20% of that slider, text is already readable in direct sunlight, above 60% is getting good and 100% is just fine! | 13:41 |
| coderus | TemeV: what is the problem? start this project, and if any issues we can help then :) | 13:41 |
| TemeV | coderus: the background is "dimmed" | 13:41 |
| TemeV | if you create a white ambiance, it will show up as darkish grey | 13:42 |
| TemeV | that feature would have to be disabled somehow. I guess it is not too difficult, but I'm not really interested on hacking it. | 13:43 |
| TemeV | I actually like that feature and don't have any problems reading in sunlight | 13:43 |
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| onla | here I learned about the problem, quite recent :/ https://psyq123.wordpress.com/2015/06/21/why-im-switching-from-jollas-sailfish-os-back-to-cyanogenmod-for-now/ | 13:45 |
| coderus | TemeV: dconf write /desktop/jolla/background/portrait/app_picture_filename $(dconf read /desktop/jolla/background/portrait/home_picture_filename) this one is *hck*? | 13:45 |
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| TemeV | coderus: what does that do? | 13:49 |
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| tortoisedoc | so how many devs have gotten tablets yet=? | 14:24 |
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| daitheflu | did they start shipping them ?! | 14:31 |
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| coderus | TemeV: replaces glow background with normal one | 14:44 |
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| TemeV | coderus: ok, I didn't think it would be that easy :) | 14:49 |
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| Mikkosssss | coderus: did my pm work? | 15:18 |
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| onla | that dconf by coderus fixes the sunlight issue? | 15:28 |
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| TemeV | coderus: that seems to only change the blurring of the image, it still gets darker | 15:31 |
| TemeV | though black on white ambience seems te be disaster anyway. I cons etc are always white, their color would have to be changed also | 15:32 |
| TemeV | *Icons, not I cons :) | 15:32 |
| * nib_ managed to use phone in shadow when too much light | 15:36 | |
| nib_ | n900 was not so ideal too in this case:) | 15:36 |
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| chem|st | tortoisedoc: SOON™, AGAIN® & LATE© | 15:47 |
| tortoisedoc | chem|st : CANTWAIT(r) | 15:48 |
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| chem|st | tortoisedoc: are you among the tab-devs? | 15:50 |
| chem|st | if not, why bother? for sure they are all NDAed | 15:52 |
| daitheflu | chem|st: we should actually register those in the name of Jolla :D | 15:53 |
| chem|st | daitheflu: register where? | 15:54 |
| daitheflu | chem|st: OHMI | 15:56 |
| chem|st | ? | 15:56 |
| tortoisedoc | OHMI? | 15:57 |
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| chem|st | daitheflu: ah you mean we shoult register SOON™, AGAIN® & LATE© with the OHMI | 15:57 |
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| daitheflu | chem|st: yes, sorry, it wasn't clear | 15:58 |
| chem|st | if you got 5keur spare... | 15:58 |
| chem|st | and have a "product" to show | 15:58 |
| chem|st | oh well it might be less ~750eur per ™ | 15:59 |
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| chem|st | if you register all at once you may save some more | 15:59 |
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| daitheflu | yes, I know how it works, I'm working for a trademark attorneys firm ;) | 16:04 |
| tortoisedoc | we could make jolla t-shirts with them printed on them | 16:04 |
| tortoisedoc | although im not sure the sailors might actually be impressed :D | 16:04 |
| daitheflu | I'm pretty sure that would make them laugh | 16:07 |
| daitheflu | well I hope so :) | 16:07 |
| tortoisedoc | so | 16:07 |
| tortoisedoc | we only need to figure out how to get their consent to have the jolla logo and we are set :) | 16:08 |
| coderus | TemeV: replace sailfish pattern image with empty one ot patch Wallpaper.qml | 16:09 |
| coderus | or* | 16:09 |
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| tathhu | daitheflu tortoisedoc dudees :D | 16:15 |
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| daitheflu | tathhu: sorry, what does that mean ? | 16:18 |
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| daitheflu | well I've got to go, bye ! | 16:22 |
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| tortoisedoc | tathhu : you on this too? :P | 16:23 |
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| tortoisedoc | iekku : ping | 16:34 |
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| olpe | What's the android version on sailfish | 18:49 |
| coderus | 4.1.2 afaik | 18:49 |
| olpe | ok. too low then... | 18:50 |
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| onla | coderus: if you have a solution, could you post it here, or are you just pondering whether it is the solution :s or just not bothering to post there yet https://together.jolla.com/question/18957/difficult-to-use-the-phone-in-bright-sunlight-need-for-blackwhite-and-or-high-contrast-ambience/ | 20:00 |
| onla | but quite nice really, if you actually have a solution suddenly so quickly to something that has been up there for quite some time 'p | 20:01 |
| onla | :) | 20:01 |
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| onla | I am in the midst of simulating all my current mobile phone use cases and see if I'd be lacking with jolla somewhere to know if I gonna get myself one | 20:03 |
| onla | so that would get a check too | 20:03 |
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| onla | this one I am using daily http://wars.fm/go9 very popular online go server on mobile phones. The game itself not that popular outside europe so might sound strange | 20:05 |
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| onla | That one has a website version too so maybe okay then. And the textsecure/signal is the other, I should solve, oh well | 20:06 |
| Nokius | olpe coderus it looks like soon 4.4 saw it on the raodmap iirc | 20:07 |
| TemeV | Nokius: I think so too. I was just looking for a source :) | 20:07 |
| TemeV | " Intel support for Android runtime along with upgrade to version 4.4.4 - alpha version" is impelemnted, not released | 20:08 |
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| Nokius | TemeV: arch me to slow | 20:09 |
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| locusf | I guess coderus replied the underlying android that powers Jolla phone | 20:09 |
| TemeV | Seems like sailfish 2.0 thing, at least not yet with next upgrade | 20:09 |
| TemeV | https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2015-June/006277.html | 20:10 |
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| Nokius | locusf: may | 20:10 |
| locusf | Nokius: ? | 20:12 |
| Nokius | may be this was the question | 20:13 |
| locusf | ok :) | 20:13 |
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