#mer-meeting: Additional meeting - open source & Jolla - 2014-12-02T15:00 UTC

Meeting started by tbr at 15:00:01 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. Welcome to this special installment of the Jolla community meetings! (tbr, 15:00:06)
    2. Today's topic is a continuation of last weeks discussion on Jolla's relationship with open source. Last week we ran out of time and decided to give this topic range a meeting of its own, to have the time and emphasize its importance. (tbr, 15:00:06)

  2. Brief introductions and setting the stage (5 min), prefix your information with #info (tbr, 15:00:10)
    1. Aleksi Suomalainen, community (locusf, 15:00:19)
    2. Jonathan Frederickson, community member (ryukafalz, 15:00:21)
    3. Christophe Chapuis, community member (Tofe, 15:00:27)
    4. Thomas Ruecker - community member, today just the meeting chair (tbr, 15:00:31)
    5. Simonas Leleiva, community sailor, Sailfish for Everyone (Android devices) (sledges, 15:00:38)
    6. Carsten Munk, Chief Research Engineer @ Jolla (Stskeeps, 15:00:42)
    7. tadzik, community member, programmer (tadzik, 15:00:43)
    8. Anand Radhakrishnan, Jolla user from India, Community member (anandrkris, 15:00:46)
    9. François Kubler, community member, dev-wannabe (FR) (daitheflu, 15:00:56)
    10. Steph Gosling, community member (stephg, 15:00:58)
    11. Stephan Hagen, community sailor sailing along (shfit, 15:01:06)
    12. Tobias Lehning, community member, sweden (Lehning, 15:01:24)
    13. Harri Hakulinen, Chief Engineer @ Jolla (harha, 15:01:30)
    14. Denis Zalevskiy, Jolla, engineer (deztruct1r, 15:01:44)
    15. GM Open Source Initiative (OSIMasson, 15:01:47)
    16. Giulio Camuffo, software developer at Jolla (giucam, 15:01:48)
    17. Martin Kolman, modRana developer, community member (M4rtinK_jolla_, 15:01:51)
    18. Martin Sandsmark, community member, Norway (sandsmark, 15:01:54)
    19. Iekku Pylkk�, sailor @ Jolla (iekku, 15:01:56)
    20. Dirk van Leersum, head of Funkiness at FunkyOH and TOHKBD (dirkvl, 15:02:01)
    21. Val�rio, Sailor @ Jolla, mostly listening (VDVsx, 15:02:03)
    22. Kimmo Lindholm, TOH-tailor, community member (kimmoli, 15:02:36)
    23. Thorsten Kaiser, new community member, france (DiosDelRayo, 15:02:38)
    24. Jarkko Lehtoranta, sw developer @ Jolla (Jare, 15:02:44)
    25. Jolla sailors are voiced for visibility (tbr, 15:03:12)
    26. Simon Phipps (guest at meeting), OSI President (webmink, 15:03:17)
    27. Trolli Schmittlauch, community member, user, maybe future dev (schmittlauch, 15:03:37)
    28. David Greaves, Sailor and Mer guy (lbt_, 15:04:24)

  3. A modus operandi for Jolla and the open source community, to work toward a more open source SailfishOS. (tbr, 15:05:04)
    1. Michael Demetriou, community, sorry for being late (qwazix, 15:05:45)
    2. <+Stskeeps> (FWIW, i'll be representing and talking from Jolla POV today, just to make that clear..) (daitheflu, 15:13:56)

  4. open sourcing sailfishOS components - planning the road ahead and bringing issues to light (tbr, 15:35:14)
    1. lbt will work on Mer autodoc to avoid becoming a minion of Aard (lbt, 15:42:33)
    2. this is a jolla meeting (despite the channel) - at some point I'd suggest the Mer community discuss how they want Jolla to behave on the Mer BZ. nazanin may be able to help there. (lbt, 15:48:24)
    3. https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Architecture - old hat stuff as well (Stskeeps, 15:51:05)
    4. ACTION: tadzik to lead the community side of architecture documentation on mer wiki (tbr, 15:53:46)
    5. ACTION: Jolla sailors to support him and the community (tbr, 15:53:59)
    6. Architecture Documentation to start work in #mer (lbt, 15:58:37)
    7. Map what is open and how to use it! how? wiki? community? jolla input? carsten and aleksi's listings? would benefit also mer and nemo (tbr, 16:00:31)
    8. http://jaakkoroppola.blogspot.fi/ , a personal blog, though (Stskeeps, 16:02:17)
    9. ACTION: ryukafalz to work with DiosDelRayo on a table of open and closed components. touches on tadzik's task and relates to previous info (tbr, 16:03:12)

  5. Jolla and OSS - a public manifesto(?) outside private blogs and TJC? (tbr, 16:05:17)
    1. ACTION: Jolla to clarify their open source statements and put them together on jolla.com (tbr, 16:07:25)
    2. ACTION: jolla to look into webmink's remarks about http://jolla.com/sailfish-eula/ and https://sailfishos.org/about-license.html (tbr, 16:08:37)
    3. http://planet.devaamo.fi/sailfish/ (Stskeeps, 16:13:26)

  6. beyond EOL - how could a hand-off to community look like? 5 min (tbr, 16:18:14)
  7. Wrap up, loose ends, do we need another meeting? 10 min (tbr, 16:24:51)


Meeting ended at 16:32:55 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. tadzik to lead the community side of architecture documentation on mer wiki
  2. Jolla sailors to support him and the community
  3. ryukafalz to work with DiosDelRayo on a table of open and closed components. touches on tadzik's task and relates to previous info
  4. Jolla to clarify their open source statements and put them together on jolla.com
  5. jolla to look into webmink's remarks about http://jolla.com/sailfish-eula/ and https://sailfishos.org/about-license.html


Action items, by person

  1. DiosDelRayo
    1. ryukafalz to work with DiosDelRayo on a table of open and closed components. touches on tadzik's task and relates to previous info
  2. ryukafalz
    1. ryukafalz to work with DiosDelRayo on a table of open and closed components. touches on tadzik's task and relates to previous info
  3. tadzik
    1. tadzik to lead the community side of architecture documentation on mer wiki
    2. ryukafalz to work with DiosDelRayo on a table of open and closed components. touches on tadzik's task and relates to previous info
  4. webmink
    1. jolla to look into webmink's remarks about http://jolla.com/sailfish-eula/ and https://sailfishos.org/about-license.html
  5. UNASSIGNED
    1. Jolla sailors to support him and the community
    2. Jolla to clarify their open source statements and put them together on jolla.com


People present (lines said)

  1. tbr (191)
  2. Stskeeps (138)
  3. lbt (53)
  4. tadzik (44)
  5. DiosDelRayo (42)
  6. ryukafalz (37)
  7. MeegoBit (33)
  8. webmink (26)
  9. qwazix (26)
  10. anandrkris (19)
  11. phdeswer (18)
  12. locusf (17)
  13. M4rtinK_jolla_ (16)
  14. Aard (14)
  15. Tofe (12)
  16. iekku (11)
  17. daitheflu (10)
  18. kwolf (8)
  19. OSIMasson (7)
  20. mhall119 (7)
  21. VDVsx (6)
  22. SK_work (6)
  23. sledges (5)
  24. giucam (5)
  25. schmittlauch (5)
  26. shibby (4)
  27. shfit (4)
  28. wickwire (4)
  29. Yaniel (4)
  30. Merbot (3)
  31. Lehning (3)
  32. dirkvl (2)
  33. stephg (2)
  34. deztruct1r (2)
  35. Jare (1)
  36. kimmoli (1)
  37. ilpianista (1)
  38. sandsmark (1)
  39. harha (1)
  40. schmittlauch_ (1)
  41. lbt_ (1)
  42. lainwir3d (1)
  43. jmlich (1)


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