08:18:09 #startmeeting Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration – July 12 2018 08:18:09 Meeting started Wed Jul 12 08:18:09 2017 UTC. The chair is Nokius. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Meetings. 08:18:09 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 08:18:17 is the next device definitely going to be the X Compact? 08:18:35 #info Meeting information and agenda we have no open questions here https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/ 08:18:39 nh1402: we definitely are not ready to look beyond the Xperia X yet 08:18:46 woo it's 2018 already `,:) 08:19:01 party! 08:19:03 fuuu 08:19:11 :( 08:19:47 How I can fix that now 08:19:55 such a facepalm 08:20:14 Nokius: don't worry about it too much 08:20:26 #topic Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with # info 08:20:49 what happened about the TJC posts I made after the meeting last time? 08:21:02 have there been enough votes to be acted upon? 08:21:15 #info Nokius community - porting mainly 08:21:44 #info Wouter van Heijst, infra at Jolla 08:21:46 #info Kostadin Damyanov - community, application developer 08:21:56 #info Lewis Rockliffe, community 08:22:12 #info Andrew Branson, dev at Jolla 08:22:24 #info nh1402, community member 08:23:25 #info Simonas Leleiva, sailor at Jolla 08:23:36 #info Thomas, mer community 08:24:13 #info Aleksi, nemo community 08:25:07 any quick topic? if not I would start with General discussion 08:26:01 Since there are no questions asked on tjc for this meeting we will start directly with the general discussion 08:26:06 #topic General discussion (15 min) 08:26:40 nh1402: links to your posts? 08:26:54 https://together.jolla.com/question/163348/emoji-support-in-clipboard-for-android-apps/ 08:27:06 (2nd one was duplicate, orig is here: https://together.jolla.com/question/43050/have-a-way-to-dismiss-notifications/?sort=votes&page=1 ) 08:27:20 beat me to it 08:27:30 Nokius: Thank you for taking care of this man, I apologize for my absence, to be honest, I am not home and I completely forgot about the meeting today :( 08:27:36 Youyota Sailfish tablet reached funding goal on IGG! 08:27:47 Jaymzz_: o/ 08:27:57 r0kk3rz: \o 08:28:57 Jaymzz_: np 08:29:11 Max-Might: yes its good to see, i hope the manufacturing goes well this time 08:29:29 Nokius: So you can take the rest of it too :) I'll host next time! 08:29:45 Jaymzz_: okay, finally I did this too :D 08:30:43 LarstiQ: any update from Jolla about those posts then? 08:31:49 Yep, awlays nice to see more SailfishOS devices available 08:33:07 sledges: any updates about HADK 2.0 08:33:14 Nokius: WIP 08:33:33 sledges: okay thanks 08:36:39 we have 20 more minutes 08:37:05 any open questions it's your chance to ask ;) 08:37:12 I have 08:38:30 nh1402: the stage is yours 08:41:26 the posts I made 2 weeks ago which were action items for me, have seen quite a few votes within a couple of hours of voting. 08:42:09 is that enough interest to warrant acting on them by Jolla? 08:43:15 https://together.jolla.com/question/163348/emoji-support-in-clipboard-for-android-apps/ has 15 votes 08:43:32 the other one got more than double iirc 08:43:40 39 08:43:51 both original and duplicate 08:43:51 #info "emoji" support in clipboard for Android apps has 15 votes 08:43:57 #link https://together.jolla.com/question/163348/emoji-support-in-clipboard-for-android-apps/ 08:44:03 nh1402: for the emoji one, you should answer Pekka's questions first 08:44:25 afaik theres no 'bar' to get over, TJC is just a bucket that jolla can draw from if they so choose 08:44:42 #info Have a way to dismiss Notifications has 39 votes 08:45:05 #link https://together.jolla.com/question/43050/have-a-way-to-dismiss-notifications/?sort=votes 08:45:07 nh1402: the notification one, Joona remarked that with the original design this had been considered and decided against, but Mitäkuuluu like usage may not have been anticipated 08:46:08 LarstiQ: for me that one is mostly a problem with android apps, sailfish apps should be taking it into account and not putting buttons there 08:46:26 the original design being dismiss-able? 08:46:54 we have 5 more minutes but we can extent this since the discussion started late :) 08:46:55 nh1402: decided against making them dismissable 08:47:46 r0kk3rz: if Sailfish supports Android apps, the UX should account for both types of apps 08:48:33 nh1402: theres a balance to be struck, part of the attraction of sfos is the UI paradigm 08:48:38 LarstiQ: and it'll remain that way? 08:49:25 nh1402: it can be brought up again after vacations, making some specific points (Android/messaging apps) as "new evidence" 08:49:28 one question which oped up during the week in the Telegram group 08:49:42 is there an ETA for the next EA release ? 08:50:11 Nokius: theres translations being done, so after that i guess 08:50:14 in my opinion, it's not just because it blocks UI interaction in android apps, it also distracts the user if it pops up and then doesn't go away for a while. 08:50:35 Nokius: we're hoping to be close, but then we thought that several RCs ago, so not really 08:50:50 looks like the community is looking for it since there was a few minutes a newer version public available 08:51:00 r0kk3rz: translations are for 2.1.2 08:51:22 sledges: oh, you guys are getting ahead 08:51:49 hurry up and EA 2.1.1 then :) 08:51:54 Nokius: Inoi R7 ships with an (otherwise) unreleased version 08:52:01 r0kk3rz: 've always been working on upgrades in parallel:) (since that was made possible by LarstiQ and his team many moons ago:) 08:52:21 one goes over stabilisation via RCs, another lands feature and translations 08:52:40 #info no ETA for 2.1.1.x but Jolla is testing several RC and hopes to be close soon 08:53:11 LarstiQ: thanks for the update :) 08:53:44 we are over the 15 minutes for this topic anyone likes to add something or shall we go on? 08:53:59 sledges: I suppose the Xperia X port will use the older kernel and not the recently 4.x kernel 08:54:32 -recently* 08:54:41 last question then we will move on 08:55:48 nh1402: you suppose correctly 08:56:15 sledges: thanks for the answer 08:56:24 #topic Next meeting’s time and date (5 min) 08:56:29 Next meeting should be in two weeks (26.07.2017) when keeping the rotation. Is this okay or should we postpone this one due to summer vocation season and plan the next one in four weeks (09.08.2017)? 08:56:30 I suppose it won't be updated to the newer one in the future either then 08:56:51 nh1402: i wouldn't suppose that;) 08:57:05 nice 08:57:32 what does 4.x bring to you of such importance, pls share with us:) 08:57:54 any pros or cons about time and date? 08:58:11 Nokius: I'm strongly in favour of a strict biweekly schedule 08:58:31 LarstiQ: +1 08:59:20 +1 08:59:21 sledges: the fact that it's a newer shiny'er kernel ;) 08:59:27 nh1402: lol ok 08:59:51 #info Next meeting will be held on Wednesday, 26.July 2017 at 08:00 UTC 09:00:16 see you then :) 09:00:26 o/ thanks Nokius great chair! 09:00:35 Nokius: thanks for chairing the meeting 09:00:47 sorry for the extemporise chairing 09:01:17 Nokius: Great job! Sorry for putting you in a tight situation 09:01:18 sledges nh1402 thanks 09:01:31 Jaymzz_: welcome all fine :) 09:01:50 Jaymzz_: enjoy your vocation 09:02:09 Jaymzz_: mark the day for the next meeting ;) 09:02:40 Nokius: I think you should call #endmeeting to make merbot happy 09:02:50 time to end the meeting now thanks for the participation 09:02:55 Nokius: will do :D 09:03:06 #endmeeting