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| jubo2 | I downloaded a .myapp file but I cannot find it in the ~/Downoads/ | 11:37 |
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| jubo2 | where has it gone to? | 11:37 |
| Yaniel | what did you use to download it? | 11:38 |
| jubo2 | Aptoide | 11:39 |
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| Nicd- | it's in the android data folder | 11:50 |
| jubo2 | I really need this APK Downloader app but cannot find where the browser put the .myapp file | 11:50 |
| Mikaela | /sdcard/Downloads or something | 11:51 |
| Nicd- | try ~/android_storage/Download | 11:51 |
| jubo2 | Nicd-: the files are not in ~/android_storage/Download | 11:51 |
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| Nicd- | jubo2: did you use the stock browser or some android browser to download the file? | 11:52 |
| Mikaela | if Android apps/daemons are closed when I close the main app, how do I still see notifications from Facebook messenger in addition to Jolla's default one? | 11:52 |
| jubo2 | Nicd-: stock | 11:52 |
| Nicd- | jubo2: ok, so it should be in ~/Downloads. if not... try again? | 11:52 |
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| jubo2 | tried again. no avail | 11:56 |
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| j-doge | jubo2: Aptoide downloads stuff (apk's) to ~/android_storage/.aptoide/apks/ | 12:03 |
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| jubo2 | j-doge: there are some files there but all have weird filenames | 12:05 |
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| coderus | jubo2: weird? | 12:07 |
| jubo2 | looks like the filenames have been hashed (maybe) | 12:08 |
| jubo2 | they are like 40 chars long and totally not human language | 12:08 |
| Stskeeps | i remember that somebody once ran a android launcher inside alien dalvik | 12:10 |
| Stskeeps | does anybody have a link? | 12:10 |
| politie | i saw a video of a guy running nova launcher a few days ago | 12:11 |
| Jope | Stskeeps, myriam joire at least did it | 12:12 |
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| Jope | find her review | 12:12 |
| Jope | she decided to forget all about sailfish os and run it mainly as an android device | 12:12 |
| j-doge | jubo2: you could also just try to search: find / -type f -name "nameofapp.ext" | 12:14 |
| Stskeeps | Jope: that was it | 12:15 |
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| phlixi | Hi, I have a strange problem, I have a local server at 192.168.178.251. And while loged in on the jolla via SSH, I can ping that machine, but when I try to access http://192.168.178.251 the browser claims it could not connect... | 16:30 |
| phlixi | this does not make any sense to me (. of course it is possible to connect to this website from other PCs | 16:31 |
| phlixi | any hints? | 16:31 |
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| phlixi | maybe the browser tries to resolve the ip like a domain? does this make sense at all? | 16:33 |
| phlixi | and how could i test that? | 16:33 |
| phlixi | ...and how can i get rid of this problem ? :-) | 16:33 |
| flux | well, does it respond to port 80 to your jolla? wget, curl, telnet, nc, or socat may be tools to answer that. | 16:34 |
| flux | I don't remember which of those - if any - are installed by default | 16:35 |
| Acce | curl is installed at least | 16:35 |
| phlixi | wget is not, ill check the others.. | 16:35 |
| flux | then curl http://.. ahead :) | 16:35 |
| flux | another point: are you certain you have written the url correctly in the browser :-) | 16:36 |
| TemeV | i recall someone else complaining also, that browser doesn't work with ip | 16:36 |
| flux | that's fun :) | 16:36 |
| flux | phlixi, so maybe you could try another browser | 16:37 |
| flux | such as the one other for jolla I can't recall, or some android browser such as firefox.. | 16:37 |
| phlixi | curl works | 16:37 |
| phlixi | so no need to try other browser, is a problem in sailfish browser then | 16:37 |
| flux | possible workaround: put an entry for the site to /etc/hosts | 16:37 |
| flux | better workaround: implement DNS in your home network | 16:38 |
| TemeV | seems to work for me though | 16:38 |
| TemeV | I could get to my routers admin panel with ip | 16:38 |
| phlixi | problem i also noted, it is not possible, for example to go to http://fritz.box since it automatically tries http://www.fritz.box wtf? | 16:38 |
| flux | probably it fails to resolve/connect fritz.box, otherwise that's somewhat broken.. | 16:39 |
| phlixi | firefox also works | 16:41 |
| phlixi | but that is no solution, since i am not able to paste URLs into firefox | 16:42 |
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| flux | why not? | 16:44 |
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| phlixi | ok, it was not copied (that another story the whole #unlike clipboard...), works | 16:44 |
| phlixi | ok, short, I cannot open http://192.168.178.251 in silfish nativ browser, but works on firefox / curl. browser claims "connection refused". I guess this is a bug... | 16:46 |
| Acce | hmm ip worked for me on SF browser nightly | 16:46 |
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| Tegu | I've used ip in the default browser for an year already and it has worked | 16:48 |
| phlixi | i am not 100% sure, but pretty sure, that this was not a problem before u10. | 16:48 |
| Tegu | I think I've also used IP in u10 as well, not 100% sure. let's try | 16:49 |
| Tegu | works | 16:51 |
| Tegu | weird.. | 16:51 |
| phlixi | then my next guess would be, that it has to do something with my browser profile... | 16:54 |
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| Tegu | you've modified user.js/prefs.js? better check those, then.. | 16:55 |
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| Tegu | or do you have a proxy or something? (dunno how they work in sailfish) | 16:56 |
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| phlixi | neither | 17:18 |
| phlixi | i will try later at home, but i assume it wil be the same... | 17:20 |
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| phlixi | i did not mess around with any browser stuff (like adblock, custom styles, userpref etc), only thing i have is like ~70 tabs open... | 17:24 |
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| jollajollajolla | Hello, if I've installed applications using a specific account and I remove the account and register a new one - the applications don't show up in the "My Apps" section of the Jolla store | 17:48 |
| jollajollajolla | Do I still receive updates? Or do I have to remove them all and install them again? | 17:49 |
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| Hartzi | why would you do that? | 17:54 |
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| jollajollajolla | Lets not get into that xD | 17:55 |
| Hartzi | well try and see what happens | 17:55 |
| jollajollajolla | They don't show up | 17:55 |
| Hartzi | ah, ok | 17:55 |
| Hartzi | Then you just should reinstall the apps | 17:56 |
| jollajollajolla | Hm, I'll probably wait for other opinions in case someone knows a way around | 17:57 |
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| * jollajollajolla pokes Stskeeps | 18:14 | |
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| r0kk3rz | stskeeps is probably the wrong person to poke, maybe tigeli | 18:18 |
| * jollajollajolla pokes tigeli_ | 18:21 | |
| jollajollajolla | I didn't know any other Jolla employee other than Stskeeps :< | 18:21 |
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| r0kk3rz | theres a fair few of them that haunt this channel | 18:25 |
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| Stskeeps | hum? | 18:36 |
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| jollajollajolla | Stskeeps, if you remove an old account from your phone and add a new one, the applications you had installed earlier don't show up in the stores "My Apps" section. | 18:55 |
| jollajollajolla | Stskeeps: do they still get updates, or would I have to reinstall them all | 18:55 |
| Stskeeps | not sure, maybe contact care | 18:56 |
| jollajollajolla | Alright, thank you | 18:56 |
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| cvp_ | \o/ | 19:38 |
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| MadProcessor | Hi all. I use cynanogenMod because its more open and may switch to sailfish os. Which advantages does sailfish have over cynanogen (or android)? | 19:46 |
| Nicd- | MadProcessor: first of all it's not android :) | 19:48 |
| attah | MadProcessor: Interaction though gestures, more light weight, more like a normal linux distro.. rather than a app on top.. those are probably my favourites.. | 19:48 |
| attah | Also.. I hate java :) | 19:48 |
| MadProcessor | So its easier to devolop on sailfish? | 19:48 |
| MadProcessor | I like to script stuff together | 19:49 |
| attah | shellscripts and stuff.. sure.. to some extent | 19:49 |
| svuorela | and javascript | 19:49 |
| attah | but developing apps.. probably not easier.. but many would argue nicer i think | 19:50 |
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| MadProcessor | how should i understand this? | 19:50 |
| attah | also.. pathcing the qml of stock apps is not rocket science | 19:50 |
| attah | which part are you thinking about? | 19:51 |
| Nicd- | I haven't developed for android but I don't think Qt is difficult | 19:51 |
| Nicd- | especially if you stick mostly to QML and JavaScript | 19:51 |
| attah | The current number of APIs allowed in the store is a bit too limited though | 19:52 |
| MadProcessor | Does it mean i can use all languages which support QT? | 19:52 |
| Nicd- | if you want to submit to the app store, you can use C++ or Python | 19:53 |
| Nicd- | also, it's Qt, not QT :) | 19:53 |
| Nicd- | just a minor nitpick | 19:54 |
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| passt | hi there, iwant to install jolla on my nexus 7 grouper | 19:54 |
| attah | but you can also just launch through c++ and use qml+js for all of the actual app | 19:54 |
| MadProcessor | I care less about the app store rather than writing my own stuff for it :D | 19:55 |
| MadProcessor | great. If C++ runs on it, then i'll guess its not that hard to port any other (scripting)language that can somehow interface with C. | 19:55 |
| mornfall | MadProcessor: you can probably write it in haskell for all we care :P | 19:56 |
| passt | on wiki.merproject.org I found the instruction howto do this, but there it is required to use cyanogen 10.1.3 . | 19:56 |
| svuorela | mornfall: it is only you who does haskell | 19:56 |
| attah | svuorela: the rest of us use Erlang? ;) | 19:57 |
| mornfall | MadProcessor: one way to go about things is ssh into the phone and treat it like any other arm computer :) | 19:57 |
| passt | But now I've installed caynogen 12. Is it possible with to migrate to Jolla with this base of caybogen, too? | 19:57 |
| cvp_ | coderus, Somthing will happen today? what do you mean with it? | 19:58 |
| svuorela | attah: no. c++ & qml | 19:58 |
| mornfall | svuorela: hush :P | 19:58 |
| mornfall | svuorela: anyway, how would you know? | 19:58 |
| svuorela | mornfall: I've been stalking you since we interacted around kde and debian soon a decade ago. | 19:58 |
| mornfall | damn | 19:59 |
| Nicd- | passt: try #sailfishos-porters | 19:59 |
| svuorela | and adept and ept and ... | 19:59 |
| coderus | cvp_: it's already happening. all the day. | 19:59 |
| mornfall | svuorela: it's supposed to be all forgotten :P | 19:59 |
| Mikaela | which python? I think I had to install both by myself from warehouse or pkcon or both | 20:00 |
| cvp_ | coderus, aha? and what exactly ? :D | 20:00 |
| Nicd- | attah: if you like Erlang, take a look at Elixir | 20:00 |
| Nicd- | it's lovely | 20:00 |
| svuorela | mornfall: hush now, or I'll bring up even older words that are far forgotten | 20:00 |
| * attah googles elixir | 20:00 | |
| cvp_ | coderus, you move to apple iphone ? :D | 20:00 |
| svuorela | mornfall: kalyxo! | 20:01 |
| mornfall | svuorela: do you stalk anyone else? :P do you remember SadEagle? | 20:01 |
| coderus | cvp_: wrong | 20:01 |
| mornfall | (google ate him, AFAIK) | 20:01 |
| coderus | cvp_: today is my birthday | 20:01 |
| svuorela | mornfall: sadeagle fell off the world a couple of years ago. yes. google ate him. | 20:01 |
| Nicd- | attah: it's like Erlang for humans :) runs on BEAM, you can use any Erlang libs with no runtime cost, contains nice metaprogramming features and an active community | 20:02 |
| svuorela | Have poked at some bugs in khtml with him over the years. | 20:02 |
| svuorela | but he always outsmarted me :P | 20:02 |
| attah | Nicd-: But I'm not human? :( | 20:02 |
| cvp_ | coderus, aaahaaaa. HAPPY Birthday !!! wich you all the best!! | 20:03 |
| MadProcessor | Is the black other half not available anymore? | 20:03 |
| passt | Nicd-: thanks | 20:03 |
| svuorela | MadProcessor: who wants a black one when they can get a funky one ? | 20:03 |
| Nicd- | or a keyboard one :) | 20:06 |
| attah | Nicd-: thanks for the tip.. might be something for my next hobby project (whatever that might be) | 20:06 |
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| svuorela | Nicd-: :P | 20:06 |
| attah | but i really don't mind erlang's syntax.. | 20:06 |
| svuorela | Nicd-: I'm still busywaiting for my kbd one | 20:07 |
| Mikaela | the keyboard one seems expensive, but I am typoing with virtual one a lot and I don't like how the virtual keyboard behaves in fingerterm | 20:07 |
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| Tegu | yea, the fingerterm keyboard is a bit different | 20:08 |
| Obi-Lan | theres not much kompetition for tohkbd | 20:08 |
| Obi-Lan | ;) | 20:08 |
| attah | Mikaela: yeah.. but it's kind of hard making anything much cheaper in those volumes | 20:08 |
| Tegu | somehow it feels that I'm mispressing more with it.. or it's not registering? | 20:08 |
| coderus | cvp_: thanks | 20:08 |
| Tegu | Obi-Lan: bluetooth keyboards | 20:08 |
| Tegu | yea, not the same, but still | 20:08 |
| Mikaela | sadly | 20:09 |
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| Obi-Lan | seen only one for iphone | 20:09 |
| Obi-Lan | though issues might be separate battery and security | 20:09 |
| Mikaela | I had class friend who used bluetooth keyboard with android | 20:09 |
| Mikaela | it doesn't seem very good solution in buses (where I probably need keyboard the most) or similar | 20:10 |
| attah | What's the status of usb host mode on the jolla anyway? | 20:10 |
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| raa700 | https://together.jolla.com/question/75826/jolla-in-usb-host-mode/ | 20:14 |
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| attah | Crap... | 20:17 |
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| MadProcessor | The solar TOH looks very neat. Doesn't the sun melt my jolla and does anyone use it? | 20:23 |
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| MadProcessor | It just needs a build-in swiss army TOH :D | 20:25 |
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| Mikaela | it looks interesting, but I spend too much time indoors or away from sun to benefit from it and Finland might not be the best place for solar panels in phones, maybe some more southern place | 20:30 |
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