Friday, 2011-11-11

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king_aoeudo you know where i could find screenshots of nemo?00:04
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Stskeepsre this fixes our problem with zypper, i can do it better but it'll take longer time06:22
Stskeeps-> sage06:22
StskeepsSage: and will need you to hack mic2 to not pick up meego-release..06:23
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Sageshould I use mer-general or meego-handset ML for nemo releases?06:30
SageStskeeps: it solves the zypper problem, nice.06:30
Stskeepsmeego-handset right now06:30
* Sage forgot to sent mail yesterday :/06:36
w00tspeaking of new releases..06:36
Stskeepsoh, we did a new release?06:37
Stskeepswith camera?06:37
w00tStskeeps: i changed mer release repos, tried to update.. everything except xorg updated (after i forced my way around the key issues)06:37
w00tnot sure if you want to guide me through poking what's wrong with that06:37
Stskeepsw00t: it might be good xorg didn't06:37
w00theh heh06:37
w00tlike that, eh?06:38
Stskeepsrpm -q --changelog xorg-x11-server06:38
w00tmomento, rebootingo n950o06:38
StskeepsSage: does this have new theme too06:40
w00tStskeeps: uhh, last changelog entry is from may 0306:42
Stskeepsw00t: ok06:42
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StskeepsSage: going to merge 108 so i can start a new mer release and we can have that issue with zypper fixed for next nemo image, then i'll work on a proper fix for next06:45
Stskeepsthere's a command rpm --resign, so06:45
w00twhat's the fix for that?06:46
Stskeepsw00t: actually give people the gpg keys for the repositories06:46
StskeepsSage: alternatively i can just drop RPM signatures from all our repository RPMs..06:47
w00tok, so they'll be part of a package that I can (presumably) install?06:48
Stskeepsuntil we fix it in a secure way06:48
Stskeepswhat sounds best?06:48
Stskeepsthink i'll go for the latter instead as the signing is a bit inappropiate atm06:51
Sagew00t: with xorg update you need to do rpm -e xorg-x11-server-Xorg on N900 before update06:56
SageStskeeps: yes it has theme.06:56
Sagew00t: there was a bug that it installed two Xorg packages which should be now fixed.06:57
w00tyes... i'm just thinking that things like this is making OTA hard :P06:57
Sagew00t: OTA should work now just do that rpm -e and "tadaa" :D06:58
w00twell, plus hunting down and installing new packages06:58
w00ti still need to figure out what to get to get the new theme06:58
Sagew00t: say what this says: zypper remove -t pattern mtf-handset-ux07:01
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w00tuninstallation of a pattern is currently not defined and implemented07:01
Sageeh :D07:02
w00tthis sort of thing is why i really wonder what's so great about package groups over metapackages, which actually work07:02
Sageok, then: zypper install -f -t pattern mtf-handset-ux07:03
w00thmm, that's actually installing new things - you got upgrades to work?07:03
* Sage would like to see the output07:03
w00ti'll wait until it's done07:04
Sagecan you pastebin?07:04
Sageok, then: zypper install -f -t pattern mtf-app nemo-apps nemo-middleware-shared nemo-utils07:04
Sagew00t: patterns have versions as well we just are not using those. If we used those I think it could actually do updates automatically.07:05
w00tyou want that too?07:06
Sageyou can compare, should look like that atm.07:06
SageYou can also see the "Version: " at there :)07:06
* w00t tries to remember the gconf key conjtrolling the theme07:11
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Stskeepsnot getting an UI on n95007:15
w00t(even after the X upgrade)07:16
Stskeeps[   15.976837] <30>[437]: /usr/sbin/ line 13: /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions: No such file oy07:16
StskeepsStarting Time Daemon...07:16
Stskeeps[   16.034301] <30>[437]: /usr/sbin/ line 13: /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions: No such fiy07:16
Stskeeps[   16.110809] <30>[437]: /usr/sbin/ line 13: /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions: No such file or .07:16
Stskeepsok, came after a reboot07:17
w00thmm, speaing of camera, it doesn't work for me07:18
w00tdo I need to poke something?07:18
w00tsame as you get with that script, which I presume screws that up07:19
w00t/etc/init.d/ is empty, i guess thanks to systemd07:21
Sagew00t: and don't add anything to there :)07:23
* Sage looks the n950 scripts07:23
w00ti have no desire to ;)07:23
SageI really though I removed those alraedy07:25
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SageStskeeps: what is proper place for alsa-utils?07:31
StskeepsSage: core, because of setting mixer settings/restoring them07:31
StskeepsSage: just i ran into some packaging issues07:31
Stskeepsfeel free to package it properly and possibly drop some unneeded deps like dialog07:33
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Stskeepsmorn veskuh07:38
veskuhmorning Stskeeps07:38
SageStskeeps: ok, as we need alsa-utils for n95007:40
Stskeepsnext mer release will contain:07:46
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Stskeepsfeedback welcome on btw07:52
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SageStskeeps: so how to branch from Mer for testing patches?07:56
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StskeepsSage: that ought to work07:58
Stskeepsalso, it's 'dbus'07:58
Sagesame problem with dbus07:58
Stskeepsi'll take a loo08:00
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Sageerror but still there :P08:02
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Sage :P08:04
SageStskeeps: can you test what that outputs during boot08:05
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Sagew00t: for some reason my device has time settings working now :D08:09
w00tSage: hahah08:09
w00tlet me check, actually08:09
Sagewell, latest release doesn't include the fix as it didn't work I didn't push it08:10
w00toh :)08:10
Sagew00t: what device you have?08:10
Sagerunnin nemo that is08:10
Sage try to install this08:10
Sageafter that it should work :P08:11
Sage-bash: /bin/rpm: No such file or directory08:11
w00tmissimg meegotouchcp-datetime-l10n-engineering-english, though i guess i could just force it for now08:11
Sagewhere did my rpm go :d08:11
Sagew00t: ok, after reboot setting time is not working again :P08:14
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w00ti'll try take a look at that sometime over the weekend08:16
w00tbut no promises as i'll be working from a hotel with known-crappy wifi08:17
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w00tSage: what's the package name for qt debuginfo?08:33
Sageyou need to enable debuginfo repo though first /etc/zypp/repos.d/08:35
Sagesomething.repo :)08:35
w00twell, i have custom built qt08:37
w00tso i'd hope that's already on08:37
w00t319mb.. that's a good joke08:37
Stskeepsnot kidding08:38
w00tyeah, i know08:38
w00tat 50 KiB/s, i'm probably going to grow old and die before this downloads08:39
SageStskeeps: btw, ping when the branching should work08:39
StskeepsSage: try the branching now please08:40
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SageStskeeps: same thing08:44
StskeepsSage: yeah, something looks weird here08:44 - - [11/Nov/2011 08:43:32] "GET /public/source/Core:armv7hl/alsa?expand=1 HTTP/1.1" 500 -08:44
StskeepsSage: try now08:46
Sageseems to work now08:52
Stskeepshad a typo08:53
Stskeepsi have a brainfart area in fakeobs08:53
Stskeepspathparts reads in my mind as pathpaths08:53
Stskeepsso i -always- typo that08:53
Sageok, and how should that link work?08:55
Sageprj link that is08:55
KaziKluBey_N900I have yesterdays image on my n900. Is it possible to try the configuration xruxa displayed somehow?08:59
SageKaziKluBey_N900: some of it at least, apps are missing and probably some theme patch as well.09:00
xruxaKaadlajk: Not really, I failed to integrate much of it :(09:00
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Sageif you go to settings and change theme to darko you see part of the theme at least :)09:00
dm8tbr has been created with access for cxl000 and the 'n900' group09:01
* Sage would really like to see rest of xruxa's stuff on our image09:01
* xruxa is frustrated with the integration09:01
w00txruxa: what's the problem(s)?09:02
Stskeepswhat problems are you running into?09:02
xruxaHey, but I haven't been all idle either, been making free theme for components.09:02
xruxamostly specify/spectacle debacle on my machine09:02
Stskeepsxruxa: installed it originally with rpm/dpkg?09:02
xruxaI tried it all. dep package (0.22), sources from 0.23 (install 0.22) and git sources (still, install 0.22)09:03
xruxaIt made me feel so bad I went drawing graphics for the rest of the day09:03
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StskeepsSage: 500: /public/source/Core:armv7hl/_pattern?expand=109:04
Stskeepsthat's new09:04
veskuhSage: Camera fix was in? Does not seem to work for me.09:04
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Stskeepsveskuh: camera works for me on n95009:04
w00txruxa: wrt spectacle, make sure you uninstall the packages before installing from git09:05
w00ti got weird issues with that09:05
veskuhStskeeps: wierd, does not work on my N90009:05
xruxaw00t: will try that09:06
KaziKluBey_N900Sage: Ok, thanks. I guess it becomes availabe in time. ...patience...09:06
w00tStskeeps: camera *works*?09:07
w00tI wonder why it doesn't for me09:07
Stskeepson n95009:07
Sageveskuh: ...09:07
KaziKluBey_N900I tried the camera on the n900 yesterday awell. The screen says "error" but it's WIP as it seems09:07
SageStskeeps: btw, if I do a typo in package name when branching from fake it says error but still in the OBS end does the copy :)09:09
Stskeepseh :P09:10
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xruxaSage: is the "We do not like ~ in package name" issue worked out? The components release that should work on proper screen sizes is blocked by that.09:11
Sagexruxa: you can bypass that check with boss.conf file added to the package09:13
Sagexruxa: let me search example09:13
Stskeeps~ in package name..?09:14
xruxathat spectacle thing does not even install :( - it installs in current dir despite being told to go to /usr  :(09:14
Stskeepswtf :P09:15
Stskeepswhat OS is that on?09:15
Stskeepscan you try python --root=/ --prefix=/usr ?09:15
xruxaStskeeps: yeah, like 1.0~git2011110509:15
Stskeepscan you try python --root=/ --prefix=/usr install09:15
Stskeepsxruxa: right, but that's version name09:15
Stskeepsneed more coffee09:16
Stskeepscan you try python install --root=/ --prefix=/usr09:16
xruxaStskeeps: that --root kind of helped, but not completely   :(09:18
* Sage uses sudo python install09:19
Sagewihtout any options09:19
Stskeepsxruxa: debian?09:19
xruxaUbuntu 11.1009:19
Stskeepsxruxa: try for fun to move /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/spectacle* to /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/09:20
Stskeepsthat did it?09:21
xruxasays now version 0.23 :) Trying to use it on packages09:21
Stskeepsfucking debian sometimes.. i really don't fully understand the site-packages dist-packages thing09:22
* KaziKluBey_N900 is impressed by the skills in linux you guys have.09:24
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Sagexruxa: example of boss.conf: don't use those values, but only the one that you can see in the error that relatest to ~09:26
* xruxa looking09:26
xruxaSage: Will make new sr to get the latest error, then will try making it into warning09:27
Sagexruxa: only ~ in version should be such that needs bypass09:29
xruxaSage: btw, where to push new darko to? CE:UX:MTF ?09:31
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Sagexruxa: Project:MTF09:33
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3053 waiting for review at
xruxacomes with a link now, blessed  :) ^09:33
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3053 Rejected promotion request09:33
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3055 Rejected promotion request09:38
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Sagexruxa: check_package_is_complete_sources is the test you need to move to warn09:44
Sagephaeron:      Could not notify CE-maintainers (no address found) SR#305309:44
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3056 Rejected promotion request09:46
* xruxa getting it :)09:49
* KaziKluBey_N900 slowclaps09:51
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* xruxa was hoping to get his package accepted with timestamp 11-11-11 11:11 but FAILED10:22
veskuhnice plan!10:23
* xruxa wondering what timezone is our buildbot in, maybe there is still chance?10:25
veskuhsneaky, Community OBS is in Oregon AFAIK10:26
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SageStskeeps: so should the prj link work?10:37
SageStskeeps: odd, I added couple of packages with branch and then did remove and now those packages are shown as excluded :P10:38
StskeepsSage: should work but may be buggy10:39
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Sageah, now it works10:49
Sagehad to add something for repos to indicate localdep10:49
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Sagexruxa: ping10:53
xruxaOSC would not rebuild package with updated spec only?10:54
Sage <- how did you get the messages like this? :D10:54
xruxaSage: Since you have all the weekend ahead, I though to give you something to read :)10:54
xruxaHonestly, dunno10:54
Sagexruxa: there should be space between each changelog entry, not it is very hard to read.10:55
lardmanI guess installing the static busybox from trunk is the best bet for getting sysklogd?10:56
xruxaSage: IC, you already edited it in the request ;) Fixed local copy too.10:58
Sagexruxa: edited?10:58
xruxaI mean, it here it looks alright10:59
Sageit doesn't look ok there.10:59
Sagethere i - marks showing that you removed the empty lines that were present earlier10:59
Sagethere is*10:59
xruxaI see this:   - looks like spaces between the releases?11:00
Sagexruxa: to me it seems that you didn't do new branch before starting to modify the qt-components11:00
xruxaAnyway, I have added the lines locally11:00
Sagexruxa: yes, in that pastie you can see that your submission is removing lines 10 and 1411:00
Sagexruxa: also you modify some older changelogs as well for some reason. I guess you didn't update the latest changes from CE:Apps to your package before starting to modify it.11:01
xruxaNot sure. I remember removing the changes from spec to separate files and taking the packaging from existing one, but I did not branch, that is true11:02
xruxagot to go11:03
Sagexruxa: we need to remember that anyone can do changes to those packages, and if those are accepted before yours you need to rebase your changes on top of the already accepted changes.11:03
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SageStskeeps: getting 503 from bugs.merproject.org11:05
Stskeepsok, that's it, i'm ordering a seperate worker machine for my obs..11:05
KaziKluBey If you incist on having little mascots. Here`s a nemon I´ve made. Basic but you get the idea when you see it :)11:09
SageStskeeps: hehe, obs takes "some" resources :)11:11
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SageStskeeps: I really wonder what is happening here
Stskeepswhat about it?11:34
Stskeepsyou updated dbus and udev, that's bound to cause rebuilds11:34
Sageyes, but no succeeded packages yet11:34
Stskeepssure, it's rebuilding11:35
Stskeepsit takes a bit11:35
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w00tdbus, eh11:46
lardmanAnyone got any tips for getting syslogd to run? I've followed the instructions here: installed busybox-static and changed the command line appropriately, but still no /var/log/messages11:51
SageStskeeps: what is our biggest problem atm. ?11:55
Sagein Mer/Nemo images11:55
SageJust wondering if I have forgotten something critical or just continue on my todo's11:55
Stskeepsi think we're good, but we need to test dialer functios11:56
Sageyes, I'm just not very found of tracker :/11:56
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lardmanDoes systemd automatically run any normal init scripts? I'd like to run e.g. rc.local to see if I can get my wifi module loaded and the connection up and then cat dmesg to a file, but it seems that rc.local doesn't get run.11:58
Sagelardman: atm. no we don't have sysvinit support in our systemd11:59
lardmanhmm, I guess I'll have to create a service and cross my fingers that it is run then11:59
Sagelardman: example that might help12:00
Sagesomeone know what is meegolocale?12:00
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Sagew00t: is meegolocale part of meego-ux-components?12:01
w00tit's part of the tablety stuff I think12:01
w00tto confuse the issue further: meegotouch split off a seperate project - libmlocale12:02
lardmanthanks Sage12:02
lardmanhmm, sort of similar to mine, /me goes and changes the WantedBy target and tries again12:03
Sagew00t: the dialer seems to be a big mess atm. with build deps. it require MTF, meegolocale etc., what it should do is use qt-components probably?12:03
Hurrianthe video on youtube looks slick. a lot faster than MeeGo CE Fall. what freqs is it running on? 250-600?12:03
w00tSage: probably a good idea, or a custom set - anything is acceptable really12:03
Sagearaujo: not sure if you answered to me already, but is meegotouch-inputmethodbridges need with maliit?12:03
Stskeepshe said no, i think12:04
SageWell, want to be more sure about that ;)12:07
Sageobs-meego copypac -t Trunk:Testing tracker Project:MTF12:07
* Sage is sad ^12:07
Sagebut hey copypac -t works nicely :D12:07
Sagenothing provides pkgconfig(enca), nothing provides pkgconfig(gee-1.0), nothing provides pkgconfig(gmime-2.4), nothing provides pkgconfig(gtk-doc), nothing provides pkgconfig(id3tag), nothing provides pkgconfig(libgsf-1), nothing provides pkgconfig(libiptcdata), nothing provides pkgconfig(ossp-uuid), nothing provides pkgconfig(taglib), nothing provides pkgconfig(totem-plparser), nothing provides pkgconfig(libvala-0.12), nothing provides gtk2-devel needed by12:10
Sagelet the fun begin :D12:10
w00twhat are you doing?12:14
w00toh, tracker..12:14
Sagew00t: tracker has some deps :D12:14
w00tSage: did you see my suggestion about a Project:MTF:Tracker?12:14
Sagew00t: yes12:14
w00tlayer it all there, so we know what to remove12:14
Sagepoint taken :)12:15
SageI was a bit naive and though that there isn't many deps :P12:15
w00ti'll start looking at apps using tracker tonight .. I guess gallery might be a fairly easy starting point12:15
w00toh, er12:17
w00ttonight might not happen12:17
w00tI don't get into HEL until like 9pm12:17
w00tbut same point :)12:17
cxl000lardman for blind testing have a look at
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vgradecxl000, Stskeeps, nice. a non 810 specific set of sh could be usefull as part of Core12:28
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lardmancxl000: The problem I have is getting anything to run at all12:30
lardmanIs there a way of generating a dependency tree for the systemd units? I'd like to run something qute late if at all possible so I get as much dmesg output as I can12:32
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lardmanthat does look useful though, I'll do some adaptation12:34
lardmanah I see the sleep now12:34
cxl000yes systemctl dot produces output for generating a graph12:34
lardmancool, thanks12:35
cxl000but that expects systemd to be running12:35
lardmanhmm, ok12:35
cxl000systemctl dot | dot -Tsvg > graph.svg12:38
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cxl000vgrade I usually tinker with the script as I go along. That was a capture fairly late in testing to get xkb functional12:47
lardmanhmm, not running for me, my version12:51
lardman|laptop called it rclocal.service and placed in /lib/systemd/system/12:53
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cxl000did you ln -s ../rclocal.service /lib/systemd/system/
lardman|laptopno, that I didn't12:58
lardman|laptopIs that not done automatically as it's stated in the service file?12:58
cxl000OK then your service will not be enabled and will not run12:58
lardman|laptopso the [Install] section isn't parsed except when a new service is installed for the first time?13:00
cxl000the Install section is parsed when you run systemctl enable13:01
lardman|laptopah ok13:01
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cxl000at which point it creates the symlink13:01
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lardmancxl000: working now, thanks :)13:12
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lardmanAnyone know whether ExecStop is run is the script I start with ExecStart fails?13:33
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cxl000lardman no it is the script that will get run when stopping the service. e.g. systemctl stop whatever.server13:52
lardmancxl000: thanks, I worked that out and decided to just start another script to handle the dmesg logging at the beginning of my rclocal.service script13:53
lardmangot it working fine, just need to debug a kernel oops when I insmod the wifi dongle driver13:53
lardmanlooks like that's because the driver tries to read something from the fs, which isn't there currently....13:54
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lardmanI thought kernel modules directly opening files in the normal fs was frowned upon, but I guess this is Android afterall13:55
cxl000Probably looking for firmware13:55
lardmannah that I pass to the module when I load it, it's actually looking for the MAC address in a txt file it would seem :)13:55
cxl000You can set a udev rule to capture FIRMWARE requests and run a script do dump the name13:56
lardmanFirmware requests? Is that something the kernel asks for?13:56
lardmanI doubt this module is written to do that13:57
cxl000see my udev.service and to start udev monitor logging to a file13:57
cxl000put the service in /etc/systemd/system to override the one in /lib/systemd/system13:59
lardmanI'll have a look at that, thanks13:59
cxl000The module will not be reading direct. It will make a firmware request from the kernel.14:03
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lardmanit uses filp_open() etc14:04
cxl000a udev event will contain the firmware name and the device path which can then be used to load the firmware14:04
lardmanfrom some quick Googling, it appears this is a way of directly accessing a file, rather than issuing a request via udev14:06
lardmanand in this case the file and directory is is looking for isn't there14:07
cxl000yes and it is frowned upon.14:08
lardmanindeed and rightly so seeing what it does to my kernel14:08
cxl000If its a dongle I suggest swapping it with one with linux drivers14:12
lardmanwell it's called a dongle, but it's internal, not sure what it's attached to in reality14:13
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lardmanhmm, quite a decent chipset from the looks of it14:15
cxl000The linux b43 driver supports the chip.14:20
lardmancool, will try that then14:20
cxl000There might still be a question as to how the chip is connected14:25
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lardmanyeah am just searching through the dmesg output to see if it's an internal usb dongle, which would require a different driver so I read14:31
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lardmanhmm, there is code taken from the usb subsystem, but there is also sdio code14:37
lardmanso I wonder if they took the broadcom usb dongle code and are actually using it via sdio14:37
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3065 waiting for review at
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xruxahmmm, somehow cannot get OBS to build new commits to my home project - never starts building15:46
Stskeepswhat state is it marked as?15:47
xruxasucceeded - but for a week old commit15:47
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xruxais there some cmd line to kick the rebuild?15:47
Stskeepsosc rebuild15:48
Stskeepsis the state marked as recalculating or?15:48
xruxano, just sitting there idle15:48
xruxaStskeeps: tried "osc rebuild home:jakub flickr-qml"  did not seem to do anything15:49
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araujoSage, it is not needed for latest version 0.80.8 (yes I answered you before, hehe :P)19:04
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xruxaOBS hates me and now I hate it back21:08
firevampirecould understand u21:11
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* xruxa is being quietly ignored - nothing in my home project builds in OBS anymore. Was so close to pushing out the Maps and Flickr apps ... sigh21:21
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lbtxruxa: wassup22:15
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xruxalbt: switched to beers, not my day trying to build anything22:28
lbtI looked and most stuff seemed OK22:28
lbtyou have a missing dependency is all22:28
xruxagimme a specific hint and I will stop drinkin ;)22:30
lbtooh... I'd hate to make you stop22:31
lbtbut have you moused-over the red "unresolvable"22:31
lbtnothing provides meegotouch-applauncherd-devel22:31
xruxa right here22:32
lbtOK - now you are building against CE:Apps22:32
xruxado I have a choice? That is the repo where I'm supposed to make submitrequest to22:32
lbtso CE has UX:MTF too22:33
lbtso what is CE:Apps?22:34
lbtdo we expect things in there to run on any UX?22:34
lbtclearly you're targetting the MTF UX22:35
lbtso you should be building against UX:MTF:Apps (which isn't there)22:35
lbtI wonder if Apps should be targetting multiple UXes too22:35
xruxaHmmmm ...22:35
xruxaCE:UX:MTF ?22:36
lbtit may make sense to direct UX-specific Apps to a UX-specific place22:36
xruxaI have added CE:UX:MTF and lets see22:37
xruxawhy is this so cryptic, could not figure out anything even after few beers22:38
lbtwell CE is feeling its way22:38
xruxalol, did it all go unresolvable on me again?22:38
lbtno, you added the armv7hl target and selected 3 archs22:39
lbtfor some reason we don't do that - I forget the gory details22:39
lbtin the same way you've added CE_Apps_*22:39
lbtyou need to add CE_UX_MTF_CE_MW_Shared_*22:40
xruxathree time22:40
lbtyou unticked the wrong arch22:40
xruxarmv7hl vs armv7el ?22:41
lbtyeah ... don't blame us for ARM being so schizo22:41
lbtarmv7hl is armv8el :)22:41
* lbt whistles22:41
lbtso what arch /device are you targetting specifically22:42
xruxatesting on N90022:43
lbtyay ... all done, not too painful22:43
lbtcheck back after a pint and you're done22:43
lbtwell, apart from sucky code22:43
xruxanice, fail, time to fix some22:43
xruxathanks mate!22:43
lbtback to mer infra then...22:44
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3067 waiting for review at
xruxaFlickr app incoming ^23:06
* KaziKluBey_N900 highfives23:11
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3069 waiting for review at
xruxaMaps app incoming ^23:12
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KaziKluBey_N900xruxa:nice job man. do i have to add a repo in latest image to try them? or is it to early to give them a whirl?23:33
xruxahmmm, you can try adding my home repo and installing, if you are okay with root terminal access on N900/N95023:34
KaziKluBey_N900hm,sounds hard.23:38
xruxaKaziKluBey_N900: - got to go, 0:40 here23:40
KaziKluBey_N900thanks,i'll give it a go tomorrow. same here23:41
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