Wednesday, 2011-12-14

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Sagemorning07:12
Stskeepsmorn sage07:12
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Sagewhat is up with ietherpad?07:19
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marquizmorning07:31
vgrademorning marquiz07:38
dcthangStskeeps: Do u have N950 there?07:40
Stskeepsit's in my office and i'm on my sofa07:40
dcthangokay :D07:41
dcthangBut do u remember why camera is out of order?07:41
dcthanggst-plugins-good pack exists there07:42
Stskeepsi'm not sure, we didn't touch it lately i think?07:42
dcthangand the camera worked before flashing it with the lastest images07:42
marquizvgrade: i might have somehting interesting for you ;)07:53
marquizhttp://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/marquiz:/n950/CE_Adaptation_N950-armv7hl/armv7hl/kernel-moslo-n9-2.6.32.20112201-21.3.Nemo.Adaptation.N950.N9.armv7hl.rpm07:53
marquizif you have time, try to first _load_ the zimage in that with flasher07:53
marquizi.e. flasher -k <zimage> -l -b07:53
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marquizvgrade: it tries to re-partition and backup the harmattan kernel in the new partition under /boot-orig (you might want to copy the contents of that dir to your pc for backup, too)07:56
vgrademarquiz, thanks will try later08:00
marquizk08:00
marquizvgrade: if it works, you can of course flash it to the kernel area08:01
vgrademarquiz, it has the scripts in initramfs08:02
marquizvgrade: yep08:03
marquizand it should be able to dual-boot to harmattan with kexec08:04
marquizi.e. non-secure (open mode) boot08:04
Sagehow to add image to wiki?08:08
SageCreated [[Files:filename.png]] but that just opens a new page08:08
Stskeepsisn't there an upload button?08:08
SageFile uploads are disabled on MerWiki.08:09
Sageok, no wonder :)08:09
Sagehttp://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Special:Upload08:09
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Stskeepswe should probably fix that08:10
Sageyes08:10
* Sage tried to upload the OBS projec structure thin08:10
Stskeepsfile against Mer Infra -> IT08:10
Stskeepsveskuh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsaEWnMQmUg08:11
veskuhStskeeps: is that open source? I was thinking that the demo would be nice test bench for nemo08:12
Stskeepsyes it is08:13
Stskeepssec08:13
Stskeepshttps://github.com/bundyo08:13
veskuhI think I'll take a look at that at some point (unless somebody is faster)08:13
Stskeeps:nod:08:14
veskuhIn anycase, quite impressive!08:14
Stskeepsit got me pondering a little more about Tizen and why it would be relevant in the first place, https://plus.google.com/113386402913695079840/posts/7sUg9Q3nB3P08:14
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veskuhxruxa: Aboutt your n900, I heard that we still have couple of devices remaining.08:17
StskeepsBTW, my talk for FOSDEM got accepted:08:17
StskeepsTrack            | Title                           | State08:17
Stskeeps-----------------+---------------------------------+------------08:17
StskeepsFuture of UI     | Beyond Traditional Mobile Linux | accepted08:17
veskuhStskeeps: gongrats08:17
dcthangnice, when it happens btw?08:18
Stskeeps4-5 feb08:18
Stskeepshttp://pastie.org/301457908:19
marquizStskeeps: cool! congrats08:19
Stskeepsi'll probably end up duct taped against a wall, but hey ;)08:19
SageStskeeps: congrats08:21
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* Sage sent mail to mer-general about nemo changelog things.08:35
Sagephaeron: ^ you are interested about that as well.08:35
phaeronmer-general ?08:35
phaeronone more list08:35
phaeron:)08:35
Sagehttp://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/08:36
Sagephaeron: well, meego lists are more or less dead already08:36
Sageand we have no idea when those stop working so better to move to own list soon enough08:37
phaeronagree. subscribing08:37
phaeronit would be nice if mailing lists recognized signed email and recorded the public key to verify incoming emails from a person :)08:39
dcthangwhich packages related to camera?08:41
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phaeronSage: yeah email looks good08:41
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Sagedcthang: camera on N900?08:51
dcthangno, on N95008:52
Sagegst-nokia-camera is the proprietary firmware08:52
Sagemeego-handset-camera is the app08:52
Sageand then there are the kernel patches in kernel-adaptation-n95008:52
dcthangoh kernel patch, why we need it?08:53
dcthangdoes it have some useful thingfor camera?08:53
Sagedcthang: http://pastie.org/301467108:55
dcthangthanks Sage, which kernel-adaption-n950 needed for that08:57
Sagehttps://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=kernel-adaptation-n950&project=CE%3AAdaptation%3AN950-N909:02
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niqtmorning09:11
Sagemornig09:16
xruxaveskuh: any chance to get me one of those remaining N900s? I didn't unplug mine from charger since the day I soldered the port back in ;)09:16
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veskuhxruxa: yes. Would you prefer N900 or N950 ?09:17
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niqtnemo/mer on http://www.solid-run.com/products/cubox ?09:19
xruxaniqt: looks powerful09:20
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Sageok, time to get hands dirty with the new mic to see if I could use it to create the next nemo release10:53
Stskeepsstart out with a mer image perhaps?10:53
Stskeepsless interference10:53
Sagewell, the nemo image went ok already by the devel so it should be easy.10:56
Stskeepsok10:57
dcthangany idea if zypper ref from N950 doesnot work? hanging up for a long time11:01
veskuhwifi may have dropped11:02
dcthangwell, it can ping many servers11:02
veskuhthen something else, only issue where I've seen zypper freeze has been dropping out of wifi (or I've had to relogin to guest network)11:03
Stskeepsiwconfig wlan0 power off11:04
dcthangno11:04
dcthangI can get this file for example http://www.download.com.vn/data+file/files+folder+savers/28945_encrypt-files.aspx11:04
dcthangby wget command11:05
dcthanglooks like zypper has some problems11:05
Stskeepsactivate zypper debugging moe?11:05
dcthanghow can I?:-)11:06
Stskeepszypper --help11:07
Sage\o/ it works :D11:10
Sagemic with nemo .ks file11:10
Stskeepswoo11:10
Sagehaven't tried to boot the image but at least it created it fine11:11
* Sage likes the new mic already ;)11:11
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Sagephaeron: quite good feeling about the new mic github master btw11:19
phaeronSage: cool11:21
Sagewriting images now to test if they work11:23
Sagebut in general looks good.11:23
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Sagelol11:33
Sagewith new mic the boot menu says "Boot Tizen" :D11:33
w00tup the butt? ;)11:33
StskeepsSage: hehe11:34
xruxaSage: lets boot Tizen. Literally :)11:36
StskeepsSage: that should really be a .ks option11:37
Stskeeps"OS name"11:37
SageStskeeps: yes11:38
Sage        #FIXME to be obsolete, make it configurable11:39
Sage        self.distro_name = "Tizen"11:39
Sage:)11:39
Stskeepshahaha11:39
Sageso they have noted the fact :)11:39
Stskeeps:P11:39
Stskeepstizen to be obsolete?11:39
Stskeeps:P11:39
Sagehaha... didn't read it like that but yes :D11:40
SageStskeeps: you just made my day :)11:40
dazoconsidering the pace they change the project names .... it sure needs to be more easy to configure .... next autumn, it'll probably change again :-P11:40
Stskeepsyou should send a patch along lines of "We change distro names so much that we should really make his configurable"11:41
dazolol11:41
Stskeepshis=this11:41
Sage:)11:41
* dazo proposes "Panta Rei" (everything flows/everything is in movement) as the next distro name :-P11:43
Stskeepsnah, we'll all converge on Mer11:43
Stskeeps:P11:43
dazoheheh :)11:43
* xruxa is wondering how to reset root password on N911:44
Sageok, it seems that I will be doing the next release with the new mic.11:48
Stskeepsit booted?11:48
Sageyes11:49
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Sagex86 booted11:49
Sagewriting the n900 one atm.11:49
SageI think I should try to figure out my n950 also11:53
Sageis there official releases of linux-firmware somewhere as .tar.bz2 format?11:55
Sagewell, nm. It is so huge that I don't want it as such anyway12:00
Sage20mins and still writing the N900 sd card :/12:09
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niqtwill released tomorrow the new release?12:48
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Sageniqt: yes13:06
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niqtI involve my friend emmynet to develop app for nemo. he is new in a channel13:55
Stskeepswelcome :)13:55
emmynettnks13:55
emmynet:)13:55
* dazo decides to wait for the new image to be ready before testing anything13:59
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ChikuÌû18:48
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marquiz_evening19:31
phaerongood evening :)19:32
Stskeepsevening19:32
phaeronjust noticed http://www.shr-project.org/trac19:33
Stskeeps:nod: good old SHR19:34
phaeronone of the packages was "new" in debian. didn't hear about it before.19:35
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mikhasSHR looks alive still?19:40
Stskeepsit is19:41
mikhaswhat's its current status?19:41
Stskeepsdunno what rewrite it's on by now19:41
mikhas=p19:41
Stskeepsi'm not sure which one had the most rewrites, maemo, or shr19:41
marquiz_:D19:42
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M4rtinKat least SHR seems to have some sort of stable long-term direction :)20:03
marquiz_hmm, wondering why harmattan seems to be slower, when booted via kexec...20:03
Stskeepsmarquiz_: perhaps tracker?20:03
marquiz_tracker??20:04
marquiz_why would that be different on secure vs. non-secure boot?20:04
marquiz_clocks *seem* to the same (clocks that i managed to find)20:05
Stskeepswell, think security...20:09
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marquiz_Stskeeps: mm, but still i wouldn't expect it to hurt the ui performance all the time20:14
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marquiz_my testing is still very limited, though20:14
Stskeepsok20:14
marquiz_it feels like ram is running on slower speed or smth...20:16
Stskeepsmight be, nolo does initalize things differnet20:16
marquiz_probably should run some low level benchmarks on the device20:16
marquiz_yep20:16
marquiz_any idea is there some easy place to check memory clocks?20:18
Stskeepsdmesg?20:19
marquiz_hmm, even when just stressing the swype ui, cpu usage seems to be ca. double with kexec'ed harmattan20:19
marquiz_just pondering if we have similar problem with nemo20:21
Stskeepsthat might be20:25
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marquiz_time to sleep ->20:48
Stskeepsnite20:51
marquiz_you too, thx20:52
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vgrademarquiz, "Rootfs of AltOs now exported via USB"21:32
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