Tuesday, 2012-01-17

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* merlin1991 has nfc but plymouth is the ususal thing05:06
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Stskeepsdm8tbr: generic-* something, i forgot05:40
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amasonhello all, i was wondering if someone would be kind enough to give me a rough overview of the functionality that nemo currently provides on the N9 device06:15
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Sagemorning07:05
dm8tbrStskeeps: huh?07:05
Sagedcthang: plymouth-lite and ce-backgrounds are used in Nemo and are in CE: Projects07:06
Stskeepserr07:06
Stskeepsdm8tbr: pre-coffee07:06
arcolmorning07:08
Stskeepsmorn07:08
arcolis there any of you guys "eating their own dogfood" already?07:08
dm8tbrmoaning07:09
Stskeepsi think veskuh's doing it, i'm using nemo on my exopc07:09
Stskeepsxruxa is too, i think07:09
* dm8tbr just arrived in Oulu07:09
arcolhmm07:09
* dm8tbr might try if santa^w av500 brings him a A101/A80 gen9 for xmas^wfosdem07:10
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arcolStskeeps: Im using extensively on my n900 the camera feature (I have currently 2900 pictures on it), and I email it almost every picture (take picture, share, type email address). But if you say others has no problem I will try it the end of the motnh:)07:13
Stskeepsarcol: :nod: we can't give you production quality camera for various reasons, but it's already quite good07:15
Stskeepsand probably hackable if you want07:15
arcolvarious reasons?07:20
arcolany bug id?:)07:20
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Stskeepsvarious reasons = imaging technology is a key differentiator in mobile handsets and we can't make some of the highly patented ones available with redistributable licenses07:21
Stskeeps:P07:21
arcolhmm07:22
arcolis it some specific feature?07:23
arcolits totally new to me. Any link to docs?07:24
Stskeepswell, as an example, on n950, we don't have a lot of the smart autofocus07:24
Stskeepsbut try out n900 camera and see if it's ok or not07:24
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niqtmorning07:48
Stskeepsmorn07:48
niqtwhen i have stable https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlcalendar how i can push in nemo image?07:51
Stskeepsyou make it into a tar.gz and then add a .spec file to it (we can usually help with that) and build it with community OBS and then submit it07:51
niqtok07:52
niqtthnaks07:52
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StskeepsSage: where are we supposed to have the PA settings for N9?09:55
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SageStskeeps: it is the same pulseaudio-settings-n950 package10:26
Stskeepsok, i don't see the symlink to rm696, do you?10:28
Sageumm... it is in my branch10:30
Sagehttps://build.pub.meego.com/package/rdiff?opackage=pulseaudio-settings-n950&oproject=CE%3AAdaptation%3AN950-N9&package=pulseaudio-settings-n950&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3ACE%3AAdaptation%3AN950-N9&rev=410:30
Sagethat is the fixed package that didn't work based on tests made by veskuh(?)10:31
Stskeepshmm10:31
veskuhyep, well I do not remember anymore did I actually test the audio back then or just the commandline mentioned in hte bug10:31
veskuhyesterday I actually tested audio10:32
Stskeepsalso, i'm checking up on the battery measurement on n950-n910:32
Stskeepsit seems to be that we're not at all doing any10:32
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Sageveskuh: btw, let me know when and if you have tested the Project:MTF:MW stuff. The libmeegotouch in there has 45 upstream bugs fixed. http://pastie.org/320049410:38
veskuhAh, almost forgot. I can do it right now10:39
Sagebtw, I was quite supriced how painless that update was10:41
veskuhI guess thinks are stabilizing10:42
Sageyes it seems so10:48
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Sagestskeepsie: I wonder if we should check more about the plymouth thing that fedora uses with systemd for splash screens.10:56
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Sagewe have the "lite" version made by intel for it atm.10:56
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veskuhSage, stskeepsie Nemo Steering Group11:02
stskeepsieyes, sorry, server crashed :)11:02
veskuhauts11:02
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phaeronSage: looks strange. what happened ?12:09
Sagephaeron: no idea12:12
Sagetrying to resubmit12:12
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4142 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/414212:13
phaeronobs hickup ?12:14
Sageyes, resubmit works12:16
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Sageveskuh: ah, bug fixed with update :)12:29
veskuh:)12:30
veskuhIt's good to have bugs. Makes tracking progress easier.12:31
rcguhm.. this might have been asked quite a few times in here but: is the n950 release/image compatible with the n9?12:39
veskuhyes, but same image works on both, but not the same installation instructions12:44
veskuhyou have to search logs for link to instructions12:44
veskuhand getting harmattan back is challenge12:45
rcgveskuh: thx.. will have a look :)12:56
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rcgjust for the record: http://mynokiablog.com/2012/01/15/howto-nemo-on-the-nokia-n9/13:06
rcghttp://jon.severinsson.net/NemoN9/Nemo-Mobile-N9-instructions.txt13:06
rcgthat's what turned up on a quick google search13:07
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4142 Accepted promotion request13:07
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4143 Rejected promotion request14:28
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4144 Rejected promotion request14:29
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Sageveskuh: a moment I'll do connman update14:36
veskuhok14:36
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4145 Rejected promotion request14:37
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4146 Rejected promotion request14:40
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Sageveskuh: try connman-0.78~git2+e1d92d214:44
veskuhhmm.. without network its hard to use wget14:46
Sage:D14:47
veskuhSage: Yep, that works. connmand does not crash and does not go wild. USB networking and WiFi work fine14:53
Sageveskuh: yes, that is also bug waiting for connman update14:55
veskuhYou want to wait for tagged release?14:55
SageI would prefer as this goes to Mer Core14:56
veskuhOk14:56
SageStskeeps: opinions?14:56
veskuhI think we had bug status for waiting.. Hmm. TRIAGEDUPSTREAM sounds about right..14:56
veskuhor RESOLVED CODEWAITING ?14:57
Stskeepsi presume cherry-picking isn't an option?14:57
SageStskeeps: too much patches :/14:59
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Sage16:58.39 < sameo> Sage: Not really no. The next ConnMan release will be a 1.0, so we're polishing our D-Bus APIs.15:00
Stskeeps'lo MohammadAG15:00
MohammadAGlo Stskeeps15:00
Stskeepshow is it going?15:01
StskeepsSage: any idea on timeframe?15:01
MohammadAGStskeeps, same shit different day :P15:01
MohammadAGthat and uni I guess15:01
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StskeepsSage: btw, 'wagi' on #mer seems to be from connman (daniel wagner)15:02
SageStskeeps: no :(15:03
SageStskeeps: end of feb probably but not sure15:07
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Stskeepsok, and no internim versions between what we have in mer and what is published from them?15:10
Sageno15:11
Stskeepsbut they're in a stabilization phase, i presume15:12
Sagesry, misunderstood there are fixes between.15:12
Sage0.78.215:12
Stskeepsok, i meant, no tagged release has the fixes we want15:12
Sagewe haven't tried 0.78.215:13
Stskeepscan we try that?15:13
Stskeepsas i'm more inclined to take tagged releases15:13
Sagesure, I'll package that tomorrow to see what is going on there15:14
Stskeepsok15:15
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merlin1991is there a list somewhere which closed blobs nemo still ships?16:08
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Sagemerlin1991: those blobs are in the hardware adaptation's all.20:19
merlin1991is there a definite list of "those" blobs?20:20
* merlin1991 was thinking about taking nemo and basing a lil project on top, but the problem with redistribution are those blobs :D20:20
merlin1991if I remember correctly nemo has an agreement about the blobs with nokia?20:21
Stskeepsmerlin1991: as long as you're not doing it commercially, ie, selling phones with those as a part, there's no problem20:21
Stskeepsmerlin1991: they're redistributable for non-commercial purpose20:21
Stskeepss20:21
merlin1991ah so nokia slapped a generaly allowance on them?20:22
merlin1991s/generaly/general/20:22
Stskeepsright20:22
Stskeepswe couldn't host them in meego.com else20:22
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mikhaserm, how was MeeGo non-commerical?20:47
Stskeepsmikhas: i think it's to be interpreted as not selling, but if you want a better explanation you can ask nokia legal20:48
Stskeepsit was made for this purpose, hosting in a public project20:48
merlin1991btw does anybody know what happened to apps.formeego.com?20:49
mikhasStskeeps, I assume Nokia Legal just didn't understand MeeGo properly.20:49
mikhasBut then again, who did.20:49
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Stskeepsmerlin1991: .org?20:50
Stskeepsmikhas: nah, these did for sure20:50
merlin1991dmn20:50
merlin1991though .com is unresponsive too20:50
Stskeepsmerlin1991: that one is down too, tohugh20:50
lbtpinged x-fade20:59
merlin1991btw are there plans to add nemo to the apps.formeego system?21:00
Stskeepsyes21:01
Stskeepsbut client work is needed21:01
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rektidewhat is the WM? mcompositor, mutter, or other?21:28
Venemoafaik mcompositor21:29
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mikhasI am wondering though, how much does Nemo need from a WM? Is compositing really must-have feature?21:49
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