Sunday, 2012-08-12

vdvhow can i close opened app in nemo?00:17
vdvi don't see any gui elements for that00:17
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mike7b4athomevdv, swipe up03:45
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mallatgood morning08:33
Stskeepsgood morning mallat08:33
mallatI finally managed to test my fix for NEMO#150 on something else than Harmattan so I'm planning to submit it08:34
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5563 Rejected promotion request08:37
mallatooh boss doesn't like me08:40
Stskeepsit's not personal :)08:40
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mallathow do I figure out what went wrong?08:42
Stskeepsit should give you an URL to the submit request in your email, i would think08:43
mallatah ok, browser cache was getting in the way...08:45
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mallatwhen I update the .changes file, should I bump the version number also? or not?09:03
Stskeepsnot if you don't upgrade the tarball itself09:04
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5564 Rejected promotion request09:12
mallathmm, now boss complains there are no new changelog entries, even if I did add a line to .changes...09:13
Stskeepsi think you need to add another changelog entry really09:15
Stskeepsyou can do one with same version09:16
Stskeepswell, do multiple with same version09:16
mallatI thought it would complain about that :D09:16
mallatwell, one more iteration then09:16
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vdvmike7b4, got it09:21
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rc_Stskeeps, jfyi while looking for qmf and imap i stumbled across which also seems to provide a qml-based ui09:44
rc_am currently trying to build trojita locally09:44
rc_once that succeeds i will look into packaging it for nemo09:44
Stskeepsdoesn't look very qmlish09:44
rc_Stskeeps, at least in the source tree there is some Harmattan folder with some qml files09:45
rc_according to the license file in the repository root09:46
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rc_actually it's GPLv2 or optionally 309:48
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rc_alright... with a little bit handcraft i could get the qml version of trojita to build and run at least on Harmattan...11:09
rc_going to look into the packaging and *.pro files as there seem some things are going wrong11:10
rc_the qml interface is pretty slick and simple btw and seems to only support one account right now11:12
rc_hmm well, i event can't find how to send emails11:15
rc_so, the qml ui is really in an very early stage11:15
Stskeepsdoes it use qmf?11:16
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crnkojhi guys, i was wondering if its possible to isntall nemo mobile toa  nokia n9, the thing is i can only find n950 images, so i wonder if those would work ?11:22
Stskeepscheck the wiki, there are instrcutions there11:23
rc_Stskeeps, hmm, there is quite a lot of imap specific implementation in the sources.. it seems like they are building their own imap connectivity interface11:25
rc_what would be an easy way to check for qmf usage?11:25
crnkojStskeeps, ye im jsut reading through it, it seems the n950 image is fine for the n9 as well, i have one more question, is there like a bugtracker/release notes of it what works and what not ? thanks11:26
crnkojStskeeps, i have one more question, i have already the dual boot kernel for nitdroid and nitdroid on my n9, do i first have to flash it stock and than do the procedure or can i just flash over this already?11:27
rc_clicking through the sources i only see the "stock" qt classes and nothing that relates to qmf11:28
Stskeepscrnkoj: we only test towards stock harmattan sorry, custom bootloaders not good11:30
crnkojStskeeps, ok thanks for the warning11:32
rc_well, unfortunately this seems to be a dead end then11:32
rc_grep -ir qmail $TROJITA_REPO   only shows some QMail*Codec related stuff11:33
rc_if they were using qmf i would have expected much more "hits"11:33
rc_Stskeeps, ^11:34
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Stskeepsdoesnt fit well into architecture11:37
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rc_will have a deeper look into qmf and see if it's feasible for me to start a simple email client from scratch..11:47
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CrnkojStskeeps i have one more question is it possible to flash nemo mobile to a n9 running pr 1.3? thanks11:56
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5568 waiting for review at
alteregow00t: when were you planning on doing new qmlcontacts and nemo-qml-plugins release?11:58
w00talterego: sometime today12:00
alteregoI've just submitted latest dialer.12:00
alteregow00t: I've done a commhistory declarative interface, which obviously relies on libcommhistory, was wondering how you'd feel about having that in nemo-qml-components?12:01
alteregoOr should we keep it separate?12:01
alteregoI think it sort of makes sense having it there ..12:02
w00tperhaps, i don't really know that much about it12:02
alteregolibcommhistory is an interface to tracker much the same as your contacts stuff.12:03
alteregoIt creates a EventModel that you use to query for past communication events.12:03
alteregocommhistory-daemon, uses libcommhistory to push events it receives from telepathy.12:04
alteregoMy commhistory declarative plugin just wraps libcommhistory's model in a more declarative friendly way through a QSortProxyModel.12:04
alteregoAnd does the normal declarative initialization.12:04
w00tsounds interetiting, certainly12:07
alteregoBasically, dialer requires it for history, and sms requires it for similar purpose.12:08
alteregos/sms/messaging/ ..12:09
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iekku65 triage-needed bugs13:19
iekkuhow long my vacation was?13:20
iekkuhappy to see that there has been active people :)13:22
iekkubut i think 1h slot isn't enough to get all triaged13:22
w00ttwo meetings?13:23
iekkulet's figure it out tomorrow13:25
iekkugoing to have very busy week next week13:25
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CrnkojStskeeps one question about nemomobile and the n9 i have left :) after im done with testing nemomobile can i just flash the stock images or do i have to first do the image recovery adn than flash stock images? thanks13:33
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Stskeepshello pvuorela :)13:46
pvuorelahey, regarding nemo installation on i586 virtual machine, the wiki says it's currently "recommended" to have ssse3 unless wanting a black screen after boot. does this mean i'm out of luck testing it on amd machine?13:49
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Stskeepspvuorela: ask me in 2h and i'll give it to you14:05
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Stskeepsi have a specially crafted image so14:07
Venemo_N9specially crafted image? of what?14:10
Stskeepsi486 nemo14:10
alteregoIf only I could detect when headphones are plugged in :/14:11
Stskeepsohm would normally14:12
alteregoYeah, I'm sure there's a GPIO14:12
Stskeepsor input device14:13
Venemo_N9why not x86_64?14:14
alteregoWell, I have the ECI input device mapped.14:14
Venemo_N9ok, I'll shut up14:14
StskeepsVenemo_N9: feel free to make it14:14
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Venemo_N9Stskeeps, can I ask you something? I think you'll know, I've been out of the loop for a while.14:19
Venemo_N9Stskeeps, is the Qt mobility sensors implementation in Nemo still based on polling?14:20
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Venemo_N9I'd like to know because my new home screen Qt mobility for orientation.14:21
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StskeepsVenemo_N9: just use whatever qtsensors is using and dont rotate when screen is off?14:23
Venemo_N9Stskeeps, sure, but I'm unsure what it's using in Mer.14:24
Stskeepsdoesn't really matter to homescreen14:24
Stskeepslower level stuff14:24
Venemo_N9Stskeeps, but it does. the home screen is always running. if it uses something that polls a sensor, it's gonna drain battery.14:25
Venemo_N9Stskeeps, I know it directly polled a sysfs entry in fremantle.14:25
Venemo_N9not sure how it works on Nemo.14:26
Venemo_N9I also tried searching for its code, but didn't find it14:26
Stskeepsit isn't14:26
Stskeepsit talks to sensorfw14:26
Venemo_N9and what does sensorfw do?14:27
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Stskeepsreads an input device14:27
Venemo_N9ok, but you still haven't answered the question.14:30
Venemo_N9is it based on polling?14:30
Stskeepsyes, but it is not under your control it does it14:36
Venemo_N9whose control is it under?14:41
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Figurepolling is bad but it all depends how the sensors are connected14:46
Figurethere just might be that you actually dont have interrupt to use14:46
Figurebest would be to set some boundaries to actual hw and it would send irq when those bondaries are exceeded14:47
Venemo_N9there should be an interrupt for this14:47
Figureand I'm sorry that I didn't answer your question but to put it simple I dont know enough from nemo yet :)14:47
FigureI think it depends on the hw14:48
Venemo_N9we need someone with adequate knowledge of the hw then14:48
Figuree.g. N9,N950,N900 can have different censors14:48
Venemo_N9if sensorfw is open, we could even fix it14:49
Figureand nokia hasn't published the block diagram of the how.. which is bad for opensource :(14:49
Figuresensorfw seem to be open14:49
Figuremore uptodate one
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mallatdoes bossbot get stuck sometimes? I submitted before going out and now several hours later it's still "Under automated review"...15:53
w00tmallat: can you please file a github pull request for things we maintain? (i.e. that would be one example)15:55
* alterego wonders if sage is around to do SRs today :)15:56
mallatw00t: ok15:56
* w00t works on unbricking nemo15:56
Stskeepspvuorela: bunzip2, VN15:57
StskeepsVBoxManage convertfromraw it into a vdi file15:58
Stskeepsand add as first virtual harddisk on the vm15:58
Stskeepsinstead of iso15:58
Stskeepsnp, we will prolly make it a standard build15:58
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tryeditso, I tried nemo latest release on n900. this time I was smart and didn't try to be faster then nemo, cause this leads to "application does not react... close yes/no" or something. anyway, wireless worked in this release so I tought about updating it. only wireless died after sometime and the gui didn't allow a reconnect, only restart and then again only for some time wifi. I lol'd at this. somehow the update finished a few hours16:11
tryeditso much fail.16:11
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w00tso the udev upgrade seems to have screwed things up a bit16:17
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Stskeepsw00t: show me exact error16:24
w00tStskeeps: problem boils down to soname bump of, my upgraded qt-mobility is somehow wanting .so.0, new systemd and stuff wants .so.116:25
Stskeepsah, so it's not built against new libudev?16:25
w00ti don't know how that happened16:25
Stskeepscheck your own repo?16:25
pvuorelaStskeeps: boots better now :)16:26
Stskeepspvuorela: good :)16:26
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* w00t throws connman under a bus16:30
Stskeepsw00t: i think we need to work a bit on nemo SSU16:30
w00tStskeeps: you might say that16:31
Stskeepsdid your qt-mobility not build, or something?16:31
w00tI don't know16:31
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w00tconnman keeps dying before I can actually look at the problem16:31
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w00tI think one of these days I'm going to snap and try figure out why it's such a steaming pile of shit on n95016:31
Stskeepsdying? sure it's not just getting upgraded?16:32
w00tas in my connection starts, I can ssh, and then it dies a horrible flaming death16:32
w00tand restarting it doesn't work at all16:32
w00t(and no, nor does PSM, before you say it)16:33
Stskeepscrash or?16:33
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w00tnot sure, the whole thing locked up, and now I'm not getting a UI16:33
w00tI think it might be time to write this image off16:33
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faenil_awaygood evening people :)19:46
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* faenil reading the backlog...mmm19:46
faenilw00t, are you investigating the black screen problem you get when updating via zypper?^19:56
faenilok, seemed like it :)19:56
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5568 Accepted promotion request20:16
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5499 Accepted promotion request20:51
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5595 waiting for review at
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5596 waiting for review at
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5584 waiting for review at
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5594 waiting for review at
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