Monday, 2012-11-12

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iekkunemo bug triage starting soon07:56
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7361 Rejected promotion request08:48
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7362 Rejected promotion request08:53
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7363 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/736309:14
Sage_plundstr: really? the whole .sh script was not needed? :)09:16
plundstryes, not at all09:16
plundstrxorg pid is now 29709:16
Sage_it should be under 100 ;)09:17
plundstrgood target09:18
Sage_plundstr: the bme doesn't need the DSME env btw?09:19
plundstrLooks like it doesn't09:21
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7363 Accepted promotion request09:22
Sage_uses maybe the dbus if instead of socket or something?09:23
Sage_or doesn't use dsme at all? ;)09:23
plundstrCould be? I don't have the source09:24
spiiroinplundstr, Sage_ : not sure if IIRC but dsme thermal policy needs battery temperature data, and it is provided by bme09:26
plundstryes, dsme has some thermal checking.09:27
plundstrspiiroin:  Sage_:   I'll check do we have dsme thermal checking in use and does it get battery readings09:29
Sage_plundstr: well that is something that can't be used on many adaptations so it needs to be optional if detected09:31
plundstrok09:31
plundstrSage: BTW, how do we handle optional things between adaptations? Where do we configure what is used and what is not?09:33
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deztructorplundstr, spiiroin atm thermal data is not exposed because bmeipc was encapsulated inside ckit provider. i can expose it there but if it is not urgent it is better to wait for statefs, i hope it will resembles also power_supply structure for bme originated data09:34
Sage_plundstr: we don't atm.09:34
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plundstrSage: yes not atm but is there plan, idea, decision how it will be?09:35
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Sage_plundstr: I would hope it is like /etc/dsme.d/ dir that can be added stuff in adaptation config package.09:36
plundstrYes, that could work09:36
Sage_static file doesn't really work as in most of the cases there are multiple places that want to edit the data09:36
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Sage_even if that feels like overkill for now it might be good in the future09:37
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plundstrSage_: spiiroin: deztructor: ATM our dsme is compiled with " --without-bmeipc". It means, no communication with bme (no battery temp readings)09:45
Sage_IMO would be better if we would not compile it with bme and use something a bit more generic api09:46
Sage_mainly as e.g. x86 adaptaiton doesn't have bme09:47
deztructorplundstr: contextkit atm09:47
deztructorContextProperty09:47
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7364 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/736409:50
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7364 Accepted promotion request09:56
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7357 Rejected promotion request10:07
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7365 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/736510:29
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sledgesgood morning!10:55
sledgeshave you voted for Nemo logo yet? ;) http://polldaddy.com/poll/6679035/10:57
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7366 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/736610:58
tadzikI did now :)10:59
anYchas the symbol in choice nr 3 a special meaning?11:01
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Sage_Stskeeps: http://sage.kapsi.fi/Nemo-tmp/0.20121115.0.1.NEMO.2012-11-12.1/images/11:03
Stskeepsyes,s aw11:03
Sage_k11:03
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tadzikanYc: I think it's related to some marine army rank11:06
tadzikcaptain, or such11:06
anYcah, "captain nemo". would make sense. thanks11:08
sledgesyup, tadzik & anYc, here's the whole (long!) thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg00702.html11:08
sledgesto skim through11:09
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7366 Rejected promotion request11:09
tadzikheh, not as long as p5p threads :P11:09
tadzikless swear words too11:09
Sage_kjokinie: please don't change content in tarball :)11:10
kjokinieSage_: binary diff patch then?11:10
Sage_kjokinie: no, extra tarball next to the old one for example11:12
kjokinieSage_: ok11:12
Sage_kjokinie: though new upstream for that could be proably also nice alternative11:12
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kjokinieSage_: do we package linux-firmware already?11:13
kjokinieSage_:  would it make sense to package the whole thing?11:13
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7365 Accepted promotion request11:14
Sage_kjokinie: each adaptation should package the parts it needs11:14
kjokinieSage_: ok. Can I get a separate package for new wl127x firmwares to CE:Adaptation if I make such package?11:17
kjokinieI mean CE:Adaptation:N950 or what was it..11:17
Sage_kjokinie: yes, that is ok. As then you could package it with date instead of some version11:18
Sage_linux-firmware doesn't have version tags11:18
Sage_iirc11:18
kjokinieSage_: yes, it seems so.11:18
Sage_kjokinie: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=linux-firmware-ti-connectivity&project=CE%3AAdaptation%3APandaBoard11:18
Sage_that is how I did it for panda11:18
kjokinieSage_: thanks, I'll use that as base11:20
sledgeslol tadzik :)11:21
tadzikactually it's longer than I thought, mail-archive just pretends it's 10 messages long :)11:22
sledgestrue :D11:30
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7360 Accepted promotion request11:35
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7359 Accepted promotion request11:39
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7367 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/736712:07
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7367 Accepted promotion request12:13
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StskeepsSage_: VM booted12:34
StskeepsJake9xx: Sage_: llvmpipe seems faster too12:35
Sage_nice12:35
* Sage_ still waits changelog12:35
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7369 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/736913:19
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niqthas someone developed with qt5 on nemo?13:41
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7358 Accepted promotion request13:56
sledgesniqt, yes14:02
sledgeshave hello world running, hope to tackle QML problems14:02
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niqtsledges: have you used qtcreator or only mer-sdk?14:05
sledgesniqt, qtcreator14:26
sledgessoz, being slow today :)14:27
sledgesniqt, qtcreator fails to build (spitting errors about mersdk/.../usr/bin/readline etc), then I use the same qmake command from within mer sdk - and it works14:29
sledgesbut qtcreator has all the knowledge of crossompiling arm, so I use it for intellisense :)14:29
niqtsledges: thanks i want my next nemo application with qt5 and to abandon qt414:32
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sledgeswell niqt you'll have to run qt4 and qt5 side by side for quite a time still14:48
sledgesas long as they do not share the same prefix for the time being you're fine14:48
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7370 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/737015:31
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7369 Accepted promotion request15:32
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faenilpheeew, I'm finally back to Linux...16:03
faenilgood afternoon everyone o/16:04
sledgeswb faenil !16:05
faenilhey mate, what's up :)16:05
sledgesback to Mer, playing with new toys on my desk :)16:08
sledgeswas off to spain last week (embedded linx conference) - was absolutely awesome!16:08
faenilcool!16:09
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7370 Accepted promotion request16:18
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sledgeswhat are you up to faenil17:09
sledges?17:09
faenillooking for a way to attend SLUSH12....i.e looking for opensource games to port to BB10, RIM pays 100$ each!!17:09
sledgesnow THAT's an incentive!! Still I'll be porting apps for Jolla for free instead :D17:11
sledgesunless I give up my day job for that :))17:11
faenilsledges, Jolla already has my time :D17:13
sledgesyou got employed!? ;D17:13
faenilnope, I meant working on Nemo17:14
faeniloh that would be a dream :D17:14
sledgesthat is a dream :)17:14
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faenilsledges, can you please PM any opensource qml you know, if you know any? thanks :D17:15
sledgesqml? games?17:15
faenilyeah17:15
sledgessamegame :))17:16
sledgesjust saw in qt5 talk last week17:16
faenilI don't think that counts :D17:16
sledgesnot a game person17:17
sledgeswould rather port/create a useful app17:17
faenil:)17:18
faenilthey don't pay for apps though ^^17:18
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sledgesweird, probably don't want too much bugs :)17:29
faenil:D17:31
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iekkubugs?17:57
iekkui like bugs17:57
iekku(if those get someone who loves them and cares of them and fixes them)17:57
w00tand hopefully doesn't feed them and make them multiply and grow17:58
iekkuwho? me?18:00
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faenilI think he was referring to the bug-fixer :D18:02
sledgesi referred to if peeps write qml apps for BB10, supporting them will be a pain18:03
sivangw00t: development is what feeds them and make them grow and mutiply :)18:03
sledgesthat's why RIM gives 100$ only for games, where bug might be a part of gameplay :D18:03
sivangw00t: hence, debugging and dev'ing are complementary processes ;)18:03
sivanghey sledges , again, how is the poll going?18:04
sledgeshi sivang , running home now18:04
sledgesbut image 3 is winning :)18:04
sledges(you can see results yourself)18:04
sledgesI wish some other logos won :D18:04
sledgesthe glass/piece sail looks nice, and its reflection reminds hull itself18:04
sledgessee you tomorrow! soz have to run18:04
sivangsledges: I actually started to agree with that, the sail is like Android's bot for us18:06
sivangsledges: see you tomorrow!18:06
sledgesalso remind a shark's fin ;) nemo-shark agressive :D18:08
sivangfaenil: a rightous dream, if I may add.18:08
faenilsivang, :) we live to chase our dreams ;)18:08
sivangsledges: yes- exactly, funny how I did not see its potential beforehand.18:08
sivangfaenil: yep18:08
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sivangfaenil: it also feel for me, more allowing for further more diversified products and services around, not sure why.. (think white labeling)18:09
sivangoops, that was also to sledges ^18:09
faeniloh ok :D18:09
sivangMichael is doing amazing work, though he's design are great and his is so quick grasping18:10
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sivangs/though//18:14
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Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil: I can support you18:42
Sfiet_KonstantinI have a pseudo game that was never finished, but was close to be finished18:43
Sfiet_Konstantinit is like "shu shu rocket", a bit simplier though18:43
Sfiet_Konstantinwill push to git18:43
faenilSfiet_Konstantin, thanks :) what's shu shu rocket?18:44
Sfiet_Konstantina nice game :)18:45
Sfiet_Konstantinsearch wikipedia you lazy18:45
faenilI have searcher google man xD18:46
faenilshu shu rocket? ...18:46
Sfiet_Konstantinaaarg18:46
Sfiet_Konstantincouldn't find it18:47
Sfiet_Konstantinwill code it now :D18:47
faenillol18:47
faenilif the game is too simple they won't accept it though :)18:47
Sfiet_Konstantinbasically, you have an arena18:47
Sfiet_Konstantinwith mouses with different colors in18:47
Sfiet_Konstantinmouse move straight18:47
Sfiet_Konstantinif they hit a wall they turn left18:47
Sfiet_Konstantinand you can put arrows on the ground18:47
Sfiet_Konstantin(of different colors)18:48
Sfiet_Konstantinif a mouse run over an arrow, it follows the arrow18:48
faeniloh :)18:48
Sfiet_Konstantinand then, you have to guide the mouses to a target (was a cheeze for me)18:48
Sfiet_Konstantin(and a rocket in shu shu rocket)18:48
Sfiet_Konstantinand you can land deadly traps like cats18:48
Sfiet_Konstantinor pits with spikes18:48
Sfiet_Konstantinetc.18:48
Sfiet_Konstantina puzzle-like game18:48
Sfiet_KonstantinI _don_'t want to be alone at Slush :D18:49
faenil:D18:49
Sfiet_KonstantinGo QML, I choose you !18:50
faenilahhaah18:50
Jake9xxStskeeps: Sage_ cool, what's the mesa version ? 8.0.5 ?18:52
Stskeeps.518:52
Jake9xxStskeeps: while I tested it it first seemed blistering fast but then I started doubting it and never did a side-by-side comparison18:53
Stskeeps:nod:18:53
faenilbbl guys18:53
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faenilback o/21:39
rcgwb faenil :)21:55
faenil:)21:55
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_nicolai_hi, I need some help setting up build environment for nemobile.22:38
_nicolai_I have the platform sdk and sb2, don't know how to setup up the n900 target22:38
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Sage__nicolai_: you can setup any armv7hl target and use those binaries with n900 as well.23:25
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_nicolai_so, the one described in the sb2 article (mer-core-armv7hl-xorg-basic-qmlviewer.ks) should work?23:31
wmaroneit should yes23:36
wmaroneit's more basic than nemomobile, but anything you build against it will work23:37
_nicolai_I'll try it, thank you23:38
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