Thursday, 2012-12-13

sledgessudo rm -rf /media/AltOS/*00:00
sledgesnot the one above :)00:00
sledgesand then00:00
sledgessudo tar --numeric-owner -xf nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950-*.tar.bz2 -C /media/Alt_OS/00:00
sledgesyou got it00:00
HtheBthanks a lot! :)00:01
HtheBthen ill just zypper ref00:01
HtheBwhat next after that (very quick before sleeping for real)00:01
sledgeszypper up00:02
sledgesand go to sleep :)00:02
HtheB:D thnx00:02
HtheBnite nite !00:02
HtheBi'll give you the report tomorrow00:02
sledgesscreen ensures if something gets killed, update process continues00:02
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Ken-YoungIs anyone working on a port of Scipy/Numpy for nemo and mer?00:38
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7521 Accepted promotion request02:41
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7526 Accepted promotion request08:58
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phaeronSage: was stuck09:02
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Stskeepsmorn qwazix09:33
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SageStskeeps: and who ever wants to test mer -next with nemo10:12
sledgesgud morning!10:17
SageStskeeps, lbt: if nemo is fine then we have a go for mer next today?10:18
sledgesI can test10:18
sledgeswhat's different in Mer next ?10:18
sledgesor to look out for10:18
Sagewell, if everything works fine on images and no visiable regressions10:19
* Sage plugs his n950 to laptop10:19
* sledges plugs his N9 to laptop10:20
* Sage puts msd card to sd card reader for n90010:20
StskeepsSage: yes10:20
* sledges first boots mer non-next Nemo to check how yesterday's 246 updates look like since last update 1st November10:21
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Sageok, i586-vm seems to work fine10:29
Sagenoting couple of things though. that are not because of mer-core10:30
Sagea) lock icon doesn't lock device. b) can't seem to be start settings10:30
Sagebe able to10:30
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VDVsxI need some help in order to integrate new version nemo-qml-plugins, never did it, is there some docs ?10:37
sledgesVDVsx, where are you taking the new version from?10:37
sledgesand looks waay faster (is the phantom device slowness fix in?)10:40
sledgesVDVsx, do you have an account on OBS ?10:41
sledgesCommunity OBS (
VDVsxsledges, yes10:42
sledgesso this is the list of main and forked projects:
Sagesledges: it is in yes10:42
Sagen950, n900 and i586-vm seems all ok from mer-core point of view to me (cc: stskeeps)10:43
sledgesVDVsx, you can check all of them to see if anyone has the version new enough you want10:43
sledgesif not, branch your own version (main one CE:MW:Shared > nemo-qml-plugins) and replace the tarball with your source of interest10:45
sledgesif you contact lbt , he could explain you how to do it without tarballs - when OBS is pulling straight from git10:45
VDVsxsledges, I think we're not talking about the same, I want to submit the git code(new version) to the nemo image10:45
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7531 waiting for review at
VDVsxand I don't know how it works for nemo, if some tagging is needed and then automaticly picked, if changelogs are needed etc10:46
sledgesok then, first and foremost - branch CE:MW:Shared > nemo-qml-plugins10:47
sledgesfor this project (as for many others), there are two parallel versions: official repo on github, and OBS build10:49
sledgesit will appear in Nemo (to any user who does zypper up) only when a "change request" is created on OBS10:50
sledgesand it's reviewed and approved (also called "Submit Request")10:50
sledgesas you can see her by the-boss ... SR#xxxx10:50
sledgesin the cycle you should first create a pull request to github10:51
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sledgesget that approved and incorporated into tree (done already? good!)10:51
VDVsxyes, thats done10:51
sledgesand then patch the OBS version, which you first branch10:51
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7531 Rejected promotion request10:52
sledgesSage, can ^ be done within recompressing tar.gz with the patch?10:52
sledgesor should VDVsx create .patch files around ? (in OBS)10:52
SageVDVsx: if you want to submit patch to nemo-qml-plugins you can do that by submitting it to the git tree10:54
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SageVDVsx: do pull request to
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sledgeshe's done that already10:54
sledgesand they got approved10:55
VDVsxSage, is already in, I want to release new version10:55
sledgesnow he wants it to appear in nemo bin repos10:55
Sageok, well tag the head of that git tree. Create tarball from the tag. Branch from CE:MW:Shared in obs and change tarball and packaging there.10:56
VDVsxSage, ok, thx10:57
sledgesmy question: should he rename tarball the same way it is now, or OBS will pick it up and map fine ?10:58
* sledges just received a call, Nemo is looking like a daily phone sooner than I thought! :D10:58
sledgesI wonder how you fixed SIM card to work (UK O2 and Vodafone SIM cards never worked a month ago, only Vodafone Czech Rep (roaming) did)11:03
phaeronnot specific fix , but I guess the modem is working a bit more reliably now11:08
phaeronat least I don't know of any specific fixes11:08
sledgesout of curiosity - has this been upstreamed?11:08
sledgesah ok11:08
sledgesI believe a big thanks to Jolla for it11:08
sledgeshence well have a very stable middleware and HA (and Mer core)11:09
Sageyup, no specific fixes in modem area or at least can't think any either11:11
sledgesofono that would be I believe11:11
sledgesmaybe operator has made its broadcast more friendly here?..11:12
sledgesI'll try another SIM card11:12
sledges(or maybe N9's quirks)11:12
sledgesHEYY NEMO boot LOGO colours are fixed with mer-next branch ;)11:13
sledgesouch, they get distorted after a bit though11:14
Sagesledges: well that is a problematic thing acctually11:14
Sageit is fixed on images build with .ks files but after updates it gets messy again as the hack disappears11:14
Sagewould need better fix there11:15
sledgesapparently the hack does not hold through the whole boot process either11:15
sledges(this is the first time i'm booting mernext, so takes longer)11:15
sledgeswill try to reboot without updating first11:15
sledgesstill yellow screen and dimming down and up11:16
sledgeslooks like old n9 problems resurfaced11:16
sledgesshould i update via ssh?11:16
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sledgesthose are systemd ti-sgx module loading problems11:17
sledgesat least the same behaviour11:17
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sledgeshmmmm mer-next looks sad for N9, cannot even telnet/ssh11:18
sledgeseven though usb cable is cdc_ether OK, maybe subnet changed? (not anymore?)11:20
phaeronno it's the same nothing changed11:21
phaeronmodules should actually load fine ..11:21
phdeswerAnything about usb in the computers dmesg? Does it even see the N9?11:23
Sageat times the usb isn't recognized properly when usb is connected too early in boot11:25
phdeswerSage, but otherwise it works?11:26
Sagephdeswer: yes, if you reconnect usb it starts working11:27
* phdeswer remembers ubuntu machines not being able to recognize the N9 and N900 usb sometimes 11:27
phdeswerCheck dmesg on the host (pc) to check if there are cannot set config or something like that errors for usb11:27
sledgesdmesg looked sane11:30
sledgesas I could do ifconfig usb011:31
sledgestryin again after reboot11:31
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sledgesi'm doing single boot brw11:33
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alciHi. I am testing nemo on a N9, and while charging, the battery indicator does not "move" unless I change the view (from menu to running apps). Is this expected ?11:37
phakowell at least it changes now ;)11:37
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alci:-) In fact it works fine if any app is running. But not with only the "desktop" (don't know the terminology in use. anyone ?)11:39
alciTo be more precise, it works if any app is active. A "minified" app does not trigger the indicator update.11:41
sledgesSage, phdeswer, phaeron: mer-next Nemo works on N9, after reboot all fine, wifi connected, received an unanswered phone call; but asked for pin (two windows!) I have no pin on SIM, dialog did not re-appear though11:41
sledgesdesktop = home screen11:42
alciCool. What name for the "opened apps" view ?11:42
sledgesopened apps? :D11:43
w00talci: it not working on the homescreen is a known bug11:43
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7532 waiting for review at
alciw00t: ok.11:43
* w00t thinks the right thing to do would be to remove the custom statusbar code, and use Window in the homescreen, to draw it11:43
alcisledges: the view of the homescreen showing the "minified" apps, when using the balloons icon.11:44
sledgesSage, one thing noticed UI: settings app works fine (hence connected to wifi) as opposed to yours. but when flicking (only by a fraction!) homescreen horizontally, it nudges to the side and stays there, does not swipe, though stays out-centered then11:44
sledgesalci, understood, I was suggestinga  name for it :)11:44
sledgesthe way you said ;)11:45
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sledgescc Stskeeps ^11:46
phaeronsledges: could be some ofono / modem interaction weirdness11:47
sledgesyes, but only on mer-next11:47
phaeronmy sim has pin, I always get one window11:47
sledges(newer versions?)11:47
sledgesthats normal then :)11:48
sledgesfile a mer-next bug? ;)11:48
phaeronsledges: at least so we know if we hit it soon11:48
phaeron(will be testing mer next soon)11:48
sledgesso you want a bug report (?)11:49
VDVsxSage, maybe this could be updated with my "usecase"(submit new package version from git), even if not very common: , I can do it if no objections11:49
phaeronsledges: if you can get it reproduced over two reboots , then yes please11:50
VDVsxwell, actually is more or less detailed in the link to veskuh 's blog11:51
w00tSage: phaeron: is there a date on the OBS migration, yet?11:51
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7533 Rejected promotion request11:52
phaeronw00t: it can happen now for all I know11:52
phaeronssu is ready and processes on new obs are in place11:52
phaeronsage tested them and they work11:52
phaeronso ...11:52
veskuhVDVsx, yeah, would be cool if you'd update that wiki page, since I think now patches are minority and normally we do fixes to git and new releases11:57
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7532 Accepted promotion request12:00
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sledgesthat would be great VDVsx12:17
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sledgesSage, Mer-next branch do not have Nemo shutting down logo, just a red square appears12:21
sledgesmer-next branch: weird, on 3rd boot many apps lost their icons on homescreen (browser, terminal, meego-pin, camera, packages...)12:25
phaeronanything in journalctl about it ?12:29
sledgesabout which phaeron ? :)12:29
phaeronmissing icons / images12:29
phaeronshutting down logo might be a know issue , as the theme doesn't provide one12:30
sledgeswill check12:30
sledgesthere is one on normal mer-core branch12:30
sledges(shutting down logo that is)12:31
sledgesamazing how fast the boot time is now! sub 25 seconds if not less!12:32
sledgesthanks to phantom slowness fix (enabling L2 cache)12:32
sledgesphaeron, false alarm. I switched to "developer theme"12:32
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phaeronyeah the default theme is deficient12:34
phaeronnemo-default I mean12:34
sledgesi mean:12:34
sledgeson main mer-core branch updated nemo has always had shutdown logo12:34
sledgestoday switched to mer-next to test: shutdown logo gone12:34
sledgesthen on same branch switched from darko to development theme12:35
sledgesand many apps lost their icons12:35
phaeronit might just be other updates you pulled in when you switched to -next12:35
phaerontheme stuff is not in mer core12:35
sledgesok, in mer core shutdown logo is hardcoded independently from theme?12:36
sledgesi did not do zypper ref up on mer-next12:36
sledgesnow as i am switching back to darko it is taking forever (theme switching still buggy?)12:37
sledgesprogress bar always was blue with white stripes. now its black with dark green stripes12:38
sledgesand doesn't want to end12:38
sledgesprolly i'm testing too much :))12:38
phaeronyeah I didn't test theme switching lately to be honest12:40
sledgesjournalctl says rejected send message from lipstick to mce12:41
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sledgesohmd says active_ui_change_request appwin ..12:42
sledgesand lastly mce_determine_io_monitor_seekable: is not seekable, while glib thinks it is seekable12:42
phaeronunrelated I think .. first one is interesting though :)12:43
sledgesoh man, Nemo shutdown logo just appeared12:43
sledges(Im rebooting as theme switching would just not work, may will pick up after reboot?)12:43
sledgesi have to say, nemo is now nearly as fast as harmattan (still not seamless but getting there)12:44
sledgesrunning finger through maliit feels that it feeds back 95% cases!12:45
sledgesok, theme switched after reboot, icons back12:45
* sledges switches back to main mer-core nemo to report proper bugs :)12:47
sledges(nemo shutdown logo now worked again 8{ )12:47
phaeronsledges: provided by theme afair :)12:50
sledges:)) yup, just wondering why it was red square all the way from the beginning and until i started fiddling switching themes12:51
sledgeskind-of popped the cherry :)12:51
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sledgesim not making a good tester13:00
sledgesphaeron, SIM PIN request was false alarm, as I clicked on it trying to dismiss13:01
sledgesis good to be a bad tester - all the bug turn out to be not bugs :))13:01
phaeronwell still things need polishing so these things don't happen :)13:03
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7534 waiting for review at
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sledgesthemes yes, pin request - purely my fault13:10
sledgesI cannot swipe to minimise app when phone is put on the table13:10
sledgesonly when held up13:10
sledgesi can reproduce it13:11
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sledgessince it surely relies on accelerometers13:11
sledgesbut unfortunately, it relies on them too much13:11
sledgesso no way to minimise an app when filming a nemo demo13:12
sledgesunless I tilt the table13:12
sledgesor hold it in hand13:12
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phaeronsledges: afair we established it is a conduction circuit kind of thing13:17
phaeronif you touch the phone with the other hand or put it on something metal touch works fine13:18
phaeronit is kind of weird13:18
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sledgesif you put it on the table13:18
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sledgesit stays portrait, if it was portrait before putting it13:18
sledgessame for landscape13:18
sledgesmeans it knows it's parallel to the groun13:19
sledgesand stops rotating around (ofc)13:19
sledgeswith that state13:19
sledgesjust have swiping ignore the orientation13:19
sledgesand set it as last-known-stable-orientation13:20
Venemo_N9swiping is not orientation dependent afaik13:20
sledgesit is portrait/landscape dependent13:20
sledgesas it has to know where the top or bottom is13:20
sledgesto swipe successfully13:20
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Venemo_N9sledges, since when?13:21
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sledgesyou cannot swipe (minimise app) from a side13:21
sledgesonly top-bottom13:21
sledgesso it is tied to the UI orientation13:22
sledgesUI in turn is tied to accelerometers13:22
sledgesso why swiping fails when the phone is on the table?13:22
sledgesit means swiping also read accelerometers, and not the ui orientation13:22
sledgeswhich is not ok13:22
Venemo_N9since when is it like this!?13:22
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sledgesVenemo_N9, how is it yours then?13:23
sledgesswiping should be tied to ui, and ignore accelerometers13:23
Venemo_N9last time I checked it worked from any edge13:23
sledgesso you can still minimise an app when phone is on the table13:23
sledgesany edge? never worked for me13:23
sledgeseither from top, or (most of the times) from the bottom13:23
sledgesbut it's irrelevant13:24
sledgesswipe stops working when phone is parellel to the ground13:24
sledgesis swipe detection handled by hardware?13:25
Aardsledges: swiping fails when the phone is on the table because it's a capacitive touchscreen :p13:25
sledgesso it does not interact with accelerometers?13:25
AardI don't think it does13:25
sledges@'_[*#ยง&@#@$ :))13:25
sledgeswhy does it work on harmattan then? ?13:25
Aardtouch the phone with a second hand and it should work13:25
sledgesso harmattan initialises touchscreen with other seettings?13:27
sledgesand smoothes out to handle swipes13:27
sledgesas not enough capacitiveness causes noise, of course13:27
sledgeswho would have thought13:27
AardI have no idea, though I've occasionally seen weird behaviour of harmattan n9 on table as well13:28
sledgesVenemo_N9, side swiping works :)) but I have hard time swiping even from the bottom compared to harmattan13:28
sledgesside are even less 'hooky' :)13:28
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Aardbut it's another case where it's useful to know a bit of physics, as normal user, when you're cursing why it's not working ;)13:29
sledgesi know that bit of physics13:30
sledgesbut all phones work when put on table13:30
sledgesor attached in car holders13:30
sledgesi chuck my n9 into dials dashboard behind steering wheel13:30
sledgesand operate with one finder - everything works13:30
sledgesswipe in harmattan ok13:30
* sledges will try to operate nemo whilst in car then to cross check ;)13:31
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sledgesis it a known bug: ?13:50
w00tI've got some fixes to PathView that I'll be putting into the next mer release13:52
w00tthat may or may not help13:52
w00tblam_: ^^ perhaps you've seen that before?13:52
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sledgesgive me a go ahead to bugreport it13:56
w00tof course, if it isn't reported, go ahead and report - never need to ask permission ;)14:01
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sledgeswell, you poked blam_ :) so was a bit hesitant there :)14:02
sledgesok! reporting in :))14:02
w00tblam_ did a lot of work on pathview bugfix backporting, i'm just wondering if it's possibly part of that lot :)14:04
sledgesoh ok14:05
sledgesno category lipstick, probing UX / Home14:05
sledgesand bug for that is there :)) NEMO#43514:06
w00tUX / home14:06
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faenilgood afternoon :)14:08
sledgesfaenil, I'm trying out latest Nemo - so cool! SIM card works, can make/receive calls!14:09
faenilsledges, latest as in?14:10
sledgesdid not update since 1st November, when SIM cards still did not work14:11
w00tthey kind of did, if you pushed the right buttons14:11
w00tbut special fixed that properly14:11
sledgesNICE! :) Tried many UK sim cards then, no luck; only foreign one worked :) Now my main UK SIm works!14:11
sledgeswell done special !14:11
sledgeswonder what that was (probably asking ofono nicely and automatically :))14:12
w00tsome fixes to telepathy-ring14:12
sledgeswonder if they were upstreamed for good14:12
w00twe are the upstream14:12
sledges;D so what is GTA04 using?14:13
w00tno idea14:13
sledgesprobably they do not go telepathy way, and ofono works for them from other framework talking to it..14:13
sledgescommented on an umbrella bug:
MerbotNemo bug 349 in Home "Panning between launcher and switcher is hard." [Normal,New]14:17
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faenilsledges, yeah I noticed that like 2 weeks ago14:18
faenilforgot to write about it14:18
* sledges slaps faenil around with a large trout :))14:18
sledgesand old bug, was wondering should I've created a new one instead.. well hope we poked all of those in Cc :) (was blam_ there though, w00t ? )14:19
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faenilalso, I have not made a qmlgallery release in months xD14:20
faenillike the last 3-4 features I added aren't packaged yet14:20
sledgeswhat are them features?14:21
faenilvery small things14:21
faenilbut improving experience14:21
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sledgesevery little helps ;)14:21
sledgesa new fellow yesterday was putting Nemo on their N950. Were so happy and exctatic seeing that if you run dual-booting moslo with usb cable in - it mounts the partition before going ahead - you see little details make big difference ;)14:22
sledges(not talking about the effort to implement that automount though ;))14:23
sledgeshi aggelos_14:23
aggelos_currently considering going for an n9, so I just dropped by to see what's going on :)14:24
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sledgesa wise choice indeed :)14:24
aggelos_would I be able to run nemo for real on it atm?14:25
sledgesfor real?14:25
sledgesi'm running it on N9 atm14:25
faenilaggelos_, not as a daily distro I'd say14:25
faenilthough I haven't been actively updating in the last month14:26
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sledgesnot currently14:26
sledgesbut GSM works14:26
sledgeswifi also14:26
aggelos_yah, sorry. I meant: would I be able to reliably received phone calls, text messages14:26
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aggelos_that sounds very encouraging tbh14:26
sledgesI called myself several times today - it was good14:26
sledgeslet me try texting..14:26
aggelos_I've no idea how the gsm stuff works on the n9. is it via an api to some nokia daemon?14:27
sledgeson nemo they use ofono+telepathy14:28
sledgesi just received my text from other phone/operator fine14:29
sledgesthough notifications need work as they did not notify me I got text (vanna wolunteer)?14:29
aggelos_good :)14:29
aggelos_tbh I'm more of a low-level systems person14:29
aggelos_but I guess I could help there14:30
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sledgesthen you could look at GPS non working14:30
sledgesif talking low level here14:30
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sledgessome reevrse engineering would be involved14:30
aggelos_sledges: yah, that sounds like something you'd work on on a spare device, not your actual phone :/14:31
w00tsledges: I already took a bit of a look at that:
aggelos_would I have or want to use harmattan? seems the installation instructions imply that14:32
sledgeswell harmattan is stock N9 OS, I'm using it daily14:32
sledgesbut now will be rebooting to nemo more often, as my SIM cards started to work (thanks for the fix to the community)14:33
sledgesand harmattan is a mature enough productised OS (people at nokia worked fulltime on it)14:33
sledgesso it includes all peripherals14:33
sledgesworking, connectivity, social etc14:33
aggelos_the dual boot option sounds very enticing14:33
aggelos_so you could boot into mer during the night to hack on it, but still have a reliable phone during the day ;)14:34
sledgesbut if you want to make/receive calls/texts, nemo is enough (as soon as it will emit a sound to notify, should not be a hard fix)14:34
sledgesthat's what i do ;)14:34
aggelos_sledges: ok, thanks, that's very helpful14:35
aggelos_and what I wanted to hear, really :)14:35
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sledgesglad to help out really! feel free to stick around14:36
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sledgesw00t, is there anyway to disable aegis? open kernel along those lines etc)14:38
sledgestesting irssi whitespace14:49
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w00tsledges: i have no idea, i don't hack harmattan14:57
sledgesok, but thanks for your post14:57
* w00t much prefers just using an OS he doesn't have to fight against14:57
sledgesI think Nemo screwed my harmattan's aegis, so I could try to gut it14:57
w00tif you can help poke around, go ahead14:57
sledgeswill do, when fix my car's gearbox first on saturday :)15:01
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sledgesok, Nemo MusicShelf plays music (.ogg file from Music/) though still silent on max volume.15:33
sledgesnow why is there no ringtone sound?15:34
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sledgesenabled everything in alsamixer, got some feedback (mic works hey!), got ogg playback amplified (thanks to DAC2 Analog and PreDriv levels up)15:41
sledgesbut still no ringtone15:41
sledgeshunting a bug in bz :)15:41
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MerbotNemo bug 274 in Dialer "Receiving or answering an incoming call is not possible" [Critical,Assigned]15:45
sledgessince 4months no ringtone %)15:45
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w00talterego: what's the current status on ringtones?15:48
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sledgesit looks like very recent action is under way:
darkborghi folks, is there an usable image for n950 ? if yes, where can i found it ?15:55
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darkborgsledges: is it usable, i mean, all phone things are working ? make calls, 3g, ... ?16:07
darkborgsledges: btw, thanks16:07
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sledges darkborg16:09
sledgesnemo is wip16:09
sledgesbut today I could make calls (some could make them even earlier, but now my main SIM is supported, hurrah! :))16:09
darkborgsledges: cool, i think i'll test it :)16:11
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sledgesit has huge potential what I can say16:12
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darkborgit's good to heard it16:16
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sledgesringtones work16:48
sledgesbut the file is missing, and they are also muted16:48
sledgesand when I unmute it, it works, but afterwards no music is heard coming from MusicShelf anymore until reboot16:58
sledges(alsamixer all levels up do not resurrect musicshelf)16:59
sledgesfiling a bug16:59
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phaeronthat's profile related17:05
phaeronI thought new voicecall would fix it17:05
sledgesnew voicecall re-enables ringtones
sledgesbut in here thei hardcode to /usr/share/voicecall/sounds/ring-1.wav which is not packaged
sledgeseven /usr/share/voicecall does not exist17:07
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sledgesafter i placed the file there, still no ringtone was heard (alsamixer Earpeace* levels made it audible)17:08
sledgesand after all i've done, I couldn't listen to any other sound/music from musicshelf17:08
sledgesprobably this is not fixed still:
MerbotNemo bug 274 in Dialer "Receiving or answering an incoming call is not possible" [Critical,Assigned]17:09
sledges(comment #4)17:09
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Sagew00t: after this next mer release I'm starting to cleanup nemo things more and prepare new images and new guides how to update etc.17:12
phaeronthat's not what I mean17:12
faenilSage, thanks17:13
sledgesphaeron, enlighten me17:13
sledges(bug report is on its way already btw ;p )17:13
phaeronthanks, will let alterego comment there17:14
w00tSage: meaning: migration?17:14
Sagew00t: yes. After the patterns and image configs are cleaned then we can move. And that happens after this mer-next which I hope is ready today ;)17:16
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MerbotNemo bug 593 in Dialer "enabling ringtone disables other music playback" [Normal,New]17:18
w00tSage: mmk - would just be nice as I think a lot of things will improve (or can improve ;)) once that happens17:19
Sagew00t: yup, for example the update process will become a bit nicer and image builds. Also we get finally proper promotion process and qa steps17:20
* phaeron hides17:20
phaeronpromise to try to have the webhook support ready17:20
w00tphaeron: yeah... I wasn't naming features, but i'd say that's #1 on my wishlist17:21
w00tphaeron: btw, did Stskeeps tell you about my crazy idea yet?17:21
phaeronwhich one :D17:22
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phaeronw00t: can we get the qdecorator please ...17:23
w00tphaeron: so.. when we start migrating stuff to qt5 in earnest, we'll want to provide two packages - one for foo, one for foo-qt5, hopefully with fairly minimal (or no) changes to source trees/packaging, as the source compatibiility is very high.. to ease development/integration, I was musing on ways to automate packaging, and then realised we kind of already have one with webhooks - and was musing on how possible it would be to generate two17:24
Sageand from the most of the things we can thank phaeron  :)17:25
w00t... that probably doesn't make a lot of sense as I've only thought of it today, and putting it in words is a bit awkward17:25
w00tso feel free to ask for clarifications17:25
phaeronw00t: we are already doing that for our kernel packaging ;)17:26
w00tok, so not impossible17:27
w00tgood to hear ;)17:27
Sagephaeron: I think we could kill Project:MTF:* repos17:28
Sageconfuse people and I've managed to say to everyone not to push anything there and it seemed to work so safe to kill I would say :)17:29
Sagewould save some resource and reduce the search results when people are searching things17:29
phaeronSage: I agree17:30
phaeronw00t: so can we get qdecorator :D17:32
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* lpotter wonders where libofono-qt changes should go18:08
w00tlpotter: ask me in 40min (dinnertime)18:09
* lpotter sets brain timer to 240018:10
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lpotterw00t: ping18:59
w00tlpotter: so it's an old meego package right?18:59
w00tand there's no repo for it in nemomobile yet?19:00
lpotternope. and I am not a member of that yet :)19:00
w00tlpotter: point me to the meego git19:01
w00tlpotter: pushed to
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w00tlpotter: can you push any patches in obs (if any) as a pull request? (and same for any of your changes) - after you've pushed some changes there I'll grant you access yourself - meritocracy and all that19:09
lpotteryep. ok19:15
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* lpotter hopes he did that right19:45
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w00tlpotter: looks like it19:57
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* Sage calls delete for the Project:MTF:*20:20
* phaeron feels cobs heave20:23
Sageumm... how can I remove develpackage?20:23
Sagewith changedevelrequest or something?20:23
SageMerSDK [sage@sage-x230 patterns]$ obs-community rdelete -r -f Project:MTF:UX20:23
SageServer returned an error: HTTP Error 400: Bad Request20:23
Sagepackages in this project are used by following packages as devel package: CE:UX:MTF/clean-device,20:24
Sageah, in meta pkg20:24
phaeronyou're going to have to remove it from the xml20:24
Sageoh, need to go through all the packages :P20:25
phaeronI think if I do it as admin it will override20:25
Sagefeel free to call that :)20:25
phaeronSage: did you make sure there are no changes needed there ?20:25
SageI haven't accepted anything there in a long time, but no didn't check it. But people would have asked about the changes already by now.20:26
phaeronhopefully yes20:26
Sageso Project:MTF:UX Project:MTF:MW and Project:MTF can be removed20:27
phaeronSage: some bits are in MTF:UX but not in CE20:28
phaeronwebupload-engine transfer-ui share-ui20:28
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SageI don't think we need those. Nobody has asked and that was just my own packaging excersize at some point :)20:31
SageI never finished the packaging of those20:31
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Sageor testing of those20:31
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phaerondo you at least have  the code somewhere20:33
phaeronor move them to some attic project20:33
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Sagethose are from gitorious tree yes20:33
phaeronwill try to remove that project first20:34
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Sagecontains those bits20:34
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phaeronha still complains about devel project20:35
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phaeronRIP project:MTF:UX21:07
phaeronRIP Project:MTF:MW21:13
phaeronSage: done21:13
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w00tphaeron: did you just baleet them? \o/21:24
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Sagephaeron: \o/21:52
phaeronSage: for i in `osc -A cobs ls CE:UX:MTF`; do osc -A cobs meta pkg CE:UX:MTF $i | sed -e '/<devel project=/d' | osc -A cobs meta pkg CE:UX:MTF $i -F - ; done21:55
phaerondid the trick for removing devel projects21:55
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Sagephaeron: you recall the etherpad I did for ssu instructions at some point?22:39
SageI lost the url and forgot to copy the stuff out of it :P22:39
Sageah, history saves22:39
SageOnly thing that I haven't figured out yet is the distribution of patterns :)22:43
Sageand I still wouldn't want to stack them all in single repo.22:43
Sageonly thing I can think of is to do different branch for each project I need to push patterns to22:45
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phaeronSage: make it work , then make it work better22:50
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Sageyup, doing 8 branches or something probably tomorrow.22:51
Sage1 for each hw + ux + mw + apps22:52
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Sagelets see if my brains work while I'm sleeping ;)22:53
phaeronit usually does22:53
HtheBsledges: yo22:53
the-boss`phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7534 Accepted promotion request23:07
aggelos_trying the nemo vm-i586 image, lipstick keeps dying w/ SIGILL and getting respawned23:14
aggelos_does this sound familiar to anyone?23:16
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sledgesaggelos_, is it a new image23:26
sledgesnew/updated ?23:27
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sledgesand is it lipstick keeps respawning, or the whol Xorg kills everything altogether and respawns?23:27
sledgesjournalctl should complain somewhere maybe23:28
sledgestry some other version as well (older ones not necessarily should be same worse either ;) happens sometimes)23:28
sledgesok, time to zleep ;) cya 2m!23:28
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aggelos_sledges: yah, tons of complaints, it wasn't just lipstick dying23:38
aggelos_sledges: strangely enough, it was better after a reboot (a few things got killed a respawned and then I stopped getting the messages)23:39
aggelos_so I proceeded w/ the installation, but now (as previously) I get a black screen w/ the 'X' X cursor23:40
aggelos_and no VTs when booting from hd23:40
Sagesledges: hmmp... for me it worked fine.23:42
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specialphaeron: know anything about dbus policies?23:49
phaeronspecial: a little23:50
specialI'm trying: qdbus --system /com/nokia/time alarms_enabled23:51
specialand getting access denied errors, but from /etc/dbus-1/system.d/timed.conf I cannot see why.23:51
phaeronlooking at the policy file23:52
special..but other processes are using that service without any problem23:55
phaeronspecial: works for me qdbus --system --literal /com/nokia/time/system_time/operational  org.freedesktop.DBus.Peer.GetMachineId23:59

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