Thursday, 2013-01-31

*** plfiorini has quit IRC00:15
*** M4rtinK has quit IRC00:31
*** Guest87510 has quit IRC00:38
*** Termana has joined #nemomobile00:50
*** Termana is now known as Guest7900100:50
*** himamura has joined #nemomobile00:53
*** Martix_ has joined #nemomobile01:09
*** yunta has quit IRC01:22
*** yunta has joined #nemomobile01:25
*** yunta has quit IRC01:28
*** special has quit IRC01:29
*** special has joined #nemomobile01:36
*** special has quit IRC01:36
*** special has joined #nemomobile01:36
*** special has joined #nemomobile01:37
*** special has quit IRC01:37
*** special has joined #nemomobile01:37
*** arcean has quit IRC01:37
*** Martix_ has quit IRC01:48
*** Morpog_Mobile has quit IRC01:59
*** Morpog_Mobile has joined #nemomobile02:18
*** n9mx has joined #nemomobile02:25
*** n9mx has quit IRC02:29
*** KaIRC has quit IRC02:39
*** Morpog_Mobile has quit IRC02:41
*** Morpog_Mobile has joined #nemomobile02:46
*** Morpog_Mobile has quit IRC02:53
*** Morpog_Mobile has joined #nemomobile03:13
*** romaxa has quit IRC03:50
*** romaxa has joined #nemomobile03:50
*** furikku has joined #nemomobile03:54
*** DocScrutinizer05 has quit IRC04:04
*** DocScrutinizer05 has joined #nemomobile04:04
*** jaded has joined #nemomobile04:18
*** jaded has quit IRC04:18
*** jaded has joined #nemomobile04:18
*** jade has quit IRC04:21
*** romaxa has quit IRC04:23
*** romaxa has joined #nemomobile04:23
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7779 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/777905:16
*** VDVsx has quit IRC05:36
*** bef0rd has quit IRC05:46
*** Mihanizat0r has joined #nemomobile05:53
*** jonwil has joined #nemomobile06:05
*** pcat has quit IRC06:14
*** jonwil has quit IRC06:16
*** VDVsx has joined #nemomobile06:17
*** pcat has joined #nemomobile06:29
*** jonwil has joined #nemomobile06:55
*** mikhas has joined #nemomobile07:06
*** stroughtonsmith has joined #nemomobile07:40
*** mvogt has quit IRC08:01
*** niqt has joined #nemomobile08:08
*** jpetersen has joined #nemomobile08:10
*** dcthang has quit IRC08:12
*** norayr has joined #nemomobile08:13
*** M4rtinK has joined #nemomobile08:19
*** dcthang has joined #nemomobile08:25
*** lpotter has quit IRC08:28
*** jreznik_ has joined #nemomobile08:30
*** norayr has quit IRC08:31
*** jaded has quit IRC08:33
*** jaded has joined #nemomobile08:33
*** jaded has quit IRC08:33
*** jaded has joined #nemomobile08:33
*** M4rtinK has quit IRC08:34
*** blam_ has quit IRC08:36
*** cxl000 has joined #nemomobile08:45
*** lpotter has joined #nemomobile08:48
*** Xruxa has joined #nemomobile08:57
*** norayr has joined #nemomobile09:03
*** norayr is now known as vishap09:03
*** qwazix_nc has joined #nemomobile09:12
*** qwazix_nc has quit IRC09:21
*** qwazix_nc has joined #nemomobile09:21
kjokinie1Stskeeps: Sage: I've been doing some u-boot tinkering lately and would like to document some findings, would it be ok if I add a u-boot sub-page to here https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide/Step_by_step#Make_a_bootloader_package_.28if_needed_for_the_image.2909:22
kjokinie1Sage: Stskeeps: it's been more in nemo-mobile context, so not sure if it's right place to be in mer wiki09:24
*** qwazix_nc is now known as qwazix09:25
samposAard: when you have time, could we have a small discussion about device icon? Not very urgent.09:26
*** yunta has joined #nemomobile09:38
*** smyows has joined #nemomobile09:40
Sagekjokinie1: sure09:42
Sagekjokinie1: refactoring could be nice as https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide is mainly kernel comments :P09:42
*** M4rtinK has joined #nemomobile09:43
*** jukkaeklund has joined #nemomobile09:43
kulveSage: see the step-by-step guide09:43
kulveI guess those two pages should be merged somehow09:44
kulveor merged and then divided properly to two09:44
kjokinie1at least the step by step guide should be bit more visible on the front page09:46
kjokinie1ok, but I will add my stuff about u-boot to the step-by-step guide09:47
kjokinie1but thinking on improving the page overall, do you guys have any knowledge will the meego.com wikies get nuked at some point?09:48
kjokinie1the meego porting guide is actually something that should be salvaged from there09:49
kulvewasn't there a mail about running down the meego.com infra (at least mailing lists and obs) in May?09:50
kjokinie1ok, maybe I just go copy the page for myself for later use ;)09:51
Aardsampos: what about it?09:52
kjokinie1could import some of that stuff then to this step-by-step guide...09:53
*** mikhas has quit IRC10:00
*** blam_ has joined #nemomobile10:03
samposAard: i'm wondering where to but the icon file10:04
samposor to what package10:05
Aard/usr/share/mtp/, next to the deviceinfo.xml10:05
AardI'll split deviceinfo.xml and the icon file into a separate package at some point, to allow vendor specific configuration10:06
samposok, that's what i was hoping for10:06
Aardso, if you just add icon file support I can handle the packaging before submitting it to nemo10:07
samposgreat10:08
Aardanother thing, loosely related -- currently we have mtp data all over the users home. I'd like to have one mtp config directory in the home, set centrally, and used by all modules10:08
sledgesgood mooring10:11
samposhttps://github.com/samposa/buteo-mtp/tree/feadevicon10:12
Aardis that a tab in mtptypes.h?10:14
*** M4rtinK has quit IRC10:15
samposno, but fixed the formatting there MTP_EV_ObjectPropChanged10:17
Aardyou didn't include an icon, though?10:19
samposno, that's the other thing to discuss10:19
samposcould it be e.g. n9 icon with nemo logo on the screen? :)10:20
*** kimitake_idle has quit IRC10:20
*** pcat has quit IRC10:21
Aarddepends on the source of the n9 icon :)10:21
*** niqt_ has joined #nemomobile10:21
sampos*krhm*10:22
sampossledges: you are the artist? sudo make icon10:22
Aardsampos: should I just pull from your branch?10:25
*** niqt has quit IRC10:25
*** lizardo has joined #nemomobile10:26
sampossure, if it looks ok to you10:27
samposah i have a bug for that also, does it change things ?10:27
samposfor the deviceIcon support i mean10:28
Aardit would be nicer to mention the bug in the commit message10:28
samposah true10:28
Aardthe code does not look obviously insane to me, so I'll just want to test it on device10:29
*** Morpog_Mobile has quit IRC10:30
*** arcean has joined #nemomobile10:31
samposdid --amend with the bug mentioned10:32
*** Morpog_Mobile has joined #nemomobile10:33
*** kimitake_idle has joined #nemomobile10:36
kjokinie1Sage: just some continuation of the adaptation wiki discussion, it says "The bootloader should pass a kernel command line (or this can be set in  the CONFIG_CMDLINE kernel configuration) that sets  systemd.unit=start.getty " in the wiki10:40
kjokinie1Sage: could we just add that to mer_verify_kernel_config script?10:41
*** Martix_ has joined #nemomobile11:10
*** pcat has joined #nemomobile11:12
*** KaIRC has joined #nemomobile11:12
*** jukkaeklund has quit IRC11:17
sledgessampos, I'm amateur, but know how to re-use other's creations :D11:19
sledgesso you need an N9 with (new) nemo logo on?11:19
sledgescan provide rasters11:19
sledgestell me sizes (8x8 16x16 32x32 64x64, any else? :)11:20
samposthose should do me thinks11:20
sledgesany requests on the colour of the background?11:21
sledgesand squircles desired I believe :))11:21
timophpink ;)11:21
*** cypa has joined #nemomobile11:21
samposi'm happy with anything i can get :)11:21
sledgeswhat's the buteo thing?11:21
sledges*this11:22
sledges:)11:22
Aardsampos: hm, seems it's possible to break mtp if there's an old version of ~/.mtpdeviceinfo.xml around11:22
*** stroughtonsmith has quit IRC11:22
sledgesis it something we see when we plug in our Harmattan N9's and mount their disks?11:22
samposthat's mass storage mode i gues11:23
sledgesyup. I can just re-use the mass storage icon from N9 harmattan and blob nemo onto it11:24
samposthat would do it :)11:24
*** stroughtonsmith has joined #nemomobile11:25
samposnot sure about copyright issues though11:26
Aardsledges: no, won't work, copyrighted icon11:26
*** ssirkia has joined #nemomobile11:26
Aardsledges: I hope to get icons from our designer in the near future11:27
sledges&{ so if you tell me where this buteo-mtp be used (for MTP transfers?), and where will the icon appear (only in Launcher?), then I can prop up from something darko- existing11:28
sampossledges: yes for mtp transfers11:28
sledgesand where will the icon appear? only in launcher?11:28
samposthe icon appears e.g. in windows explorer when one plugs the device11:29
sledgesok11:29
sledgesmight prop up something11:29
samposno pressure :)11:29
sledgesis MTP this weird thing what e.g. Samsung Galaxy S2 has? sort-of mass storage, but not really &)11:29
* sledges is analfabet in this one :))11:29
samposyeah, i guess you are seeing mtp there :)11:30
sledgesok :)11:30
samposAard: how badly did it break?11:31
sampostimoph: has saunabad turned you into hello kitty fan also ?11:32
timophno11:32
Aardsampos: windows said 'can't copy, device is not talking to me', and then it was over. so, stalling, but this time with warning :)11:32
*** jukkaeklund has joined #nemomobile11:32
AardI think it was a mismatch between 'can do ogg' in the binary and 'can't do ogg' in the deviceinfo file11:32
samposcool11:33
Aardsampos: two things, how big should the icon be? and, can we use png? or use png, and recode it?11:33
samposi think it should be .ico11:34
Aardsledges: our designer is doing the icons, no need to worry about it11:34
Aardsize?11:34
* sampos checks the documentation11:34
sampos16x16 32x32 and 48x48 is the minimum11:37
samposi guess there could be 64x64 128x128 too11:37
sledgessharps :D just found a nice one to modify: http://www.veryicon.com/icon/png/System/Black%20Glossy/USB.png11:37
sledges;)11:37
samposhttp://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms997538.aspx11:37
samposhttp://www.winterdrache.de/freeware/png2ico/index.html11:38
samposfor creating .ico from pngs11:38
samposseemed to work, i guess gimp can be used also11:38
Aardsampos: it's not about not knowing how to create .ico files, it's about beeing unhappy about the format :p11:40
sampos:)11:40
*** Mihanizat0r has quit IRC11:40
Sagekjokinie1: it could be there, though it is optional thing.11:40
samposwell mtp spec mentions .ico11:41
Aardsampos: but no icon sizes?11:41
sledgesit's windows dependent11:41
Sagekjokinie1: https://github.com/lbt/mer-kernel-check/pull/4 some changes for mer verify kernel config11:41
samposit links to that msnd..11:41
sledgesIIRC windows could want up to 48x48 with all intermittent smaller ones.11:42
sledgesbut my knowledge heads back to Windows XP Win32 API ;)11:42
*** niqt has joined #nemomobile11:43
*** bef0rd has joined #nemomobile11:44
*** niqt_ has quit IRC11:45
kjokinie1Sage: ok, I might do a patch for that11:46
*** phdeswer_ has quit IRC11:54
*** bef0rd has quit IRC11:55
*** cypa has quit IRC11:56
*** blam_ has quit IRC12:06
*** blam_ has joined #nemomobile12:06
*** Martix_ has quit IRC12:10
*** Sleepy_Coder has quit IRC12:11
*** Sleepy_Coder has joined #nemomobile12:11
*** Sleepy_Coder has joined #nemomobile12:11
*** Hurrian has quit IRC12:13
*** Hurrian has joined #nemomobile12:17
*** Martix_ has joined #nemomobile12:18
*** jonwil has quit IRC12:18
*** Martix_ has quit IRC12:24
*** jukkaeklund has quit IRC12:32
*** blam_ has quit IRC12:35
*** himamura has quit IRC12:36
*** himamura_ has joined #nemomobile12:36
*** himamura_ has quit IRC12:37
sledgesok, kludged in a %build post for now - works:  https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=u-boot-omap4panda.spec&package=u-boot-omap4panda&project=home%3Asledge%3Abranches%3ACE%3AAdaptation%3APandaBoard&rev=e7d63bf9d888fbe3cb5d7c5089fc0a2c12:38
sledges%build pre and post that is12:38
*** niqt has quit IRC12:40
*** niqt has joined #nemomobile12:41
Sagesledges: eh that is hackish looking :P12:44
sledges;) well, I did to my best knowledge12:44
Sagesure you can't use just straight the upstream version? 2013.1 for example?12:44
sledgessurely not for kernel12:45
Sagethat is anyway 2012.04 and maybe everything is upstreamed already just nobody bothered to update12:45
sledgesbut for u-boot - haven'ลง tried12:45
Sagewell, kernel understandable, u-boot could work12:45
sledgesI'm using everything from ubuntu, hence  TI PPA's12:45
*** arcean_ has joined #nemomobile12:45
sledgesand for kernel is surely not everything mainstreamed12:45
sledgesfor uboot - as I said, I don't know12:46
sledgesbut your u-boot 2012.07 didn't work with TI PPA's updated kernel ;)12:46
Sagemaybe some cmdline change needed?12:46
Sagehttps://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=u-boot-scr-pandaboard.txt&package=u-boot-omap4panda&project=home%3Asledge%3Abranches%3ACE%3AAdaptation%3APandaBoard&rev=daa2b931aa6d0dc6752b7601819ebb98 <- remember this12:46
sledgessurely will remember this one, thanks12:47
sledgesI've always used my own overriden cmd line (too boot from USB HDD etc.)12:48
*** arcean has quit IRC12:48
*** vishap has quit IRC12:48
sledgesworks with every kernel/uboot combo, except 2012.07 - 3.4.0-1489.22 (3.4.27 rebase)12:48
sledgesbut it's 3.4.0-1489.22 I'm sticking with (as it is the best kernel thus far)12:49
sledgesPS, Sage why did you use linaro kernel?12:49
* sledges didn't realise he's no longer talking in #mer ;) where /me originally posted the 'bad-dir:{name}' question :)12:50
sledgesand Panda is approaching EOL, so many DSS reworks are in 3.8-rc4, but stable PM & MM is going to stay with 3.4 line12:51
sledgesso I want to arrive to a compromise12:51
Sagesledges: well originally I based everyting linaro12:52
Sagesledges: well this kind of stuff belongs to #nemomobile more than to #mer12:53
sledges(the TI PPA's ubuntu uboot for whatever reasons linaro's, too, but kernel is not)12:53
sledgesSage, this specific stuff, yes, so I'm happy we're talking here12:53
SageI though those were the same thing originally12:53
Sagelinaro and ubuntu ppa12:53
sledgesbut in #mer I posed a generic questoins about tarballs with weird names12:53
sledgeswell, the kernel looks like it took its own ways12:53
sledgesbbiab13:01
*** jukkaeklund has joined #nemomobile13:03
*** zhxt has joined #nemomobile13:03
*** Martix_ has joined #nemomobile13:07
*** cypa has joined #nemomobile13:08
*** cypa has left #nemomobile13:14
*** Martix_ has quit IRC13:19
*** stroughtonsmith has quit IRC13:19
*** stroughtonsmith has joined #nemomobile13:20
*** bef0rd has joined #nemomobile13:23
*** stroughtonsmith_ has joined #nemomobile13:26
*** chriadam is now known as chriadam|away13:28
*** stroughtonsmith has quit IRC13:30
*** stroughtonsmith_ is now known as stroughtonsmith13:30
*** stroughtonsmith has quit IRC13:32
*** veskuh has quit IRC13:32
*** phdeswer has quit IRC13:34
*** bef0rd has quit IRC13:35
*** yunta has quit IRC13:36
*** veskuh has joined #nemomobile13:38
*** bef0rd has joined #nemomobile13:40
*** jukkaeklund has quit IRC13:44
*** veskuh has quit IRC14:03
*** norayr has joined #nemomobile14:07
*** bef0rd has quit IRC14:08
*** veskuh has joined #nemomobile14:12
*** yunta has joined #nemomobile14:13
*** bef0rd has joined #nemomobile14:18
*** jreznik_ has quit IRC14:26
*** veskuh has quit IRC14:29
*** himamura has joined #nemomobile14:31
*** jreznik_ has joined #nemomobile14:34
*** veskuh has joined #nemomobile14:41
*** niqt has quit IRC14:44
*** w00t has quit IRC14:46
*** w00t has joined #nemomobile14:46
*** xmlich02 has quit IRC14:50
*** jpetersen has quit IRC14:52
*** w00t has quit IRC14:56
*** w00t has joined #nemomobile14:57
phakowhich sb2 pattern do I need for the n9?14:58
phakov7 or v7l?14:58
phakoer hl14:58
*** jpetersen has joined #nemomobile15:07
yuntahl afaik15:17
*** zhxt has quit IRC15:19
phakothx15:20
Aardsampos: did you manage to get the icon displayed?15:27
*** arcean_ is now known as arcean15:32
*** norayr has quit IRC15:34
*** stroughtonsmith has joined #nemomobile15:43
*** Morpog_Mobile has quit IRC15:44
*** VDVsx has quit IRC15:45
*** Morpog_Mobile has joined #nemomobile15:52
*** Xruxa has quit IRC15:59
*** yunta has quit IRC16:03
*** VDVsx has joined #nemomobile16:05
sledgesSage, TI PPA is the reference kernel. Linaro is not quickly synced with official TI releases. But structure is shuffling in TI as you know, and long term we will be looking in adopting the mainline kernel.16:15
sledgesfor now, I will use the most time+feature tested one - hence TI official PPA one16:16
sledgesbecause it's good for a demo16:16
*** pcat has quit IRC16:25
sledgeslooks more elegant/clean now Sage with a macro ;) still hacky: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=u-boot-omap4panda.spec&package=u-boot-omap4panda&project=home%3Asledge%3Abranches%3ACE%3AAdaptation%3APandaBoard&rev=e7d63bf9d888fbe3cb5d7c5089fc0a2c16:26
*** jreznik__ has joined #nemomobile16:32
*** jreznik_ has quit IRC16:32
*** himamura has quit IRC16:34
*** himamura has joined #nemomobile16:36
sledgesTI-related stuff are all [unchanged] relayed news from #pandaboard :)16:39
*** jreznik__ has quit IRC16:40
*** cypa has joined #nemomobile16:45
*** cypa has left #nemomobile16:51
*** pcat has joined #nemomobile16:52
*** norayr has joined #nemomobile17:30
*** jpetersen_ has joined #nemomobile17:44
*** mikhas has joined #nemomobile17:45
sledgesSage, oh dear, latest-greatest 2013.01 does not boot from USB HDD anymore ;) usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71. Reverting to last-known-goodie-linaro-one :))17:46
*** cypa has joined #nemomobile17:47
sledgesu-boot 2013.01 that is, does not initiate usb properly -> kernel fails to acknowledge USB HDD17:47
*** jpetersen has quit IRC17:47
*** cypa has left #nemomobile17:52
*** plfiorini has joined #nemomobile17:53
*** MrPingu has joined #nemomobile17:57
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has joined #nemomobile18:00
*** ssirkia has left #nemomobile18:07
samposAard: i saw it on wpdinfotool, but not on explorer or media player.18:12
Aardwpdinfotool?18:12
samposor something :) don't recall the name exactly18:13
Aardwhat's that?18:13
sampostool that comes with windows driver dev kit18:13
samposit shows the mtp properties18:15
Aardah, would be nice to have, I guess18:15
samposanyway it feels as if windows is stubborn with the icon, once it gets one or no and uses the default. That's what it uses from there ib18:17
samposon18:17
samposuninstalling the driver did not help18:18
Aardhm18:18
samposjust speculation, i admit18:19
AardI still have a virgin windows this device didn't pair with18:19
Aardsampos: virgin windows 7 does not like the icon as well, so I guess there's still something missing for full icon support18:27
samposok. the icon just doesn't appear, but works otherwise?18:28
Aardicon just doesn't appear18:28
samposi will investigate it further tomorrow18:28
Aardand I noticed that we don't announce that mtp can do thumbnails, so my guess to why it didn't crash for me before adding the tumbler dependency on windows 7 is that windows 7 honours the 'can't do thumbnails' flag, and windows 8 ignores it18:29
samposaha18:30
Aardsampos: random bit, the n9 has  <DevPropValue>/home/user/MyDocs/DevIcon.fil</DevPropValue> for the icon devprop, and stores a copy of the icon served in the users home18:32
samposgood to know18:34
Aardand we didn't announce that we support battery readouts, which might be one half of the 'does not show battery status' problem18:35
samposwhy did i not see what harmattan does ? :)18:35
Aardsampos: http://pastebin.com/GmuXVkEr (minus the battery property which I added)18:36
*** MrPingu has quit IRC18:39
*** jreznik__ has joined #nemomobile18:43
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7782 Rejected promotion request18:43
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7780 Rejected promotion request18:45
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7779 Accepted promotion request18:46
*** slaine has quit IRC19:00
*** furikku has quit IRC19:04
*** smyows has quit IRC19:13
*** M4rtinK has joined #nemomobile19:22
*** mikhas has quit IRC19:29
*** NIN101 has joined #nemomobile19:47
phakoare there (fluendo) gstreamer mp3 decoders for nemo available somewhere?19:59
Stskeepsno, they don't typically exist for arm i think20:00
*** rcg has joined #nemomobile20:04
*** vakkov has joined #nemomobile20:07
*** vakkov has quit IRC20:28
*** yunta has joined #nemomobile20:35
*** vakkov has joined #nemomobile20:44
*** Martix_ has joined #nemomobile20:48
*** Martix_ has quit IRC20:55
*** lizardo has quit IRC21:01
*** Hurrian has quit IRC21:25
*** cristi has joined #nemomobile21:31
*** M4rtinK has quit IRC21:40
*** M4rtinK has joined #nemomobile21:41
*** jreznik__ is now known as jreznik21:53
*** stroughtonsmith has quit IRC21:53
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has quit IRC21:58
*** mvogt has joined #nemomobile22:03
*** jreznik has quit IRC22:06
*** nicola has joined #nemomobile22:08
*** Martix_ has joined #nemomobile22:15
*** NIN101 has quit IRC22:24
*** Martix_ has quit IRC22:35
*** rcg has quit IRC22:39
*** gabriel9 has joined #nemomobile22:41
*** himamura has quit IRC22:48
*** nicola has quit IRC22:48
*** blam_ has joined #nemomobile22:56
*** blam_ has quit IRC22:59
*** blam_ has joined #nemomobile23:02
*** Estel_ has quit IRC23:07
*** Estel_ has joined #nemomobile23:09
*** gabriel9 has quit IRC23:09
*** Morpog_Mobile has quit IRC23:10
*** Morpog_Mobile has joined #nemomobile23:10
*** blaroche has quit IRC23:37
*** KaIRC has quit IRC23:39
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7787 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/778723:47
*** Estel_ has quit IRC23:49
*** Estel_ has joined #nemomobile23:49
*** Morpog_Mobile has quit IRC23:50
*** Morpog_ has joined #nemomobile23:50
*** Estel_ has quit IRC23:57
*** Estel_ has joined #nemomobile23:57

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.11.0 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!