Saturday, 2013-07-20

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Stskeepsmorn Hurrian09:58
Hurrianmorn, Stskeeps09:58
StskeepsHurrian: out of curiousity, what android devices do you have if any?09:58
HurrianStskeeps, Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9 3G "P7300", HW-wise identical to the Tab 10.1 "P7500"09:59
Hurrianliterally the same thing, shrunk down. Tegra 2, latest official kernel is
Stskeepsno ICS/JB?10:00
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HurrianStskeeps, official ICS, and then CM9/10/10.1 are available.10:01
Stskeepsmorn vgrade10:02
vgradeStskeeps: looking at some broken packages in qt:devel10:03
vgraderelated to ~ in Version:10:03
vgradedoes tar_git replace the Version:10:04
vgradewhen the service runs10:04
Stskeepsthey seem to have the wrong tag, wonder if i didn't webhook them correctl10:04
vgradeI was trying to see how it works and if the replacement of the Vesion: does not work if the spec has a ~ in there10:05
Stskeepsyeah.. i think i know what happens10:06
Stskeepswill fix/tag10:06
vgradeI'm assumig qt:devel is where latest work is going on?10:07
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Stskeepsshould get sorted-ish now10:15
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cxl000I have added some rough notes on getting libhybris/wayland running to the nexus7 community page10:41
Stskeepscxl000: got minimer wayland client  yet?10:42
cxl000That reminds me I should note the things that are broken10:44
Stskeepsjust wondering what is missing :)10:44
Stskeepsi can do a quick debug if you do exactly as i tell to debug, at least10:45
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cxl000minimer dies with: qmlscene: wayland_window.cpp:127: WaylandNativeWindow::WaylandNativeWindow(wl_egl_window*, wl_display*, const gralloc_module_t*, alloc_device_t*): Assertion `this->m_android_wlegl != __null' failed.10:48
cxl000I can do that10:48
Stskeepsok, first off, show me the libhybris packages you're using?10:48
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Stskeepsokay, that's not a wayland build10:56
Stskeepsbranch it and do a --enable-wayland build10:57
Stskeepsthen things should start working10:57
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Stskeepsanybody in here who is 'jklubi'?11:05
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cxl000I now have version and the build shows --enable-wayland but still same assertion failure11:11
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Stskeepsdoes it make the egl wayland platform?11:12
cxl000libhybris-libwayland-egl ?11:13
Stskeepsok, stop user session11:14
Stskeepscd /usr/lib/qt5/examples/qtwayland/qml-compositor.service11:14
StskeepsQT_QPA_EGLFS_DEPTH=32 EGL_PLATFORM=fbdev ./qml-compositor -platform eglfs &11:15
Stskeepscd where-you-have-minimer11:15
StskeepsEGL_PLATFORM=wayland /usr/lib/qt5/bin/qmlscene -platform wayland main.qml11:16
cxl000OK that is running. not updating screen and image reversed11:18
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Stskeeps.. not updating screen?11:18
Stskeepsas in, image stuck?11:20
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cxl000no rotating mer image11:23
Stskeepsokay, as in, the mer image does not rotate?11:23
cxl000FPS ? Hz11:24
Stskeepsso, you probably need an up to date libhybris package, i think the one in there is old11:24
Stskeepsif you see a rotating mer image, it means wayland works11:26
Stskeepsas in11:26
Stskeepsjust one frame11:26
cxl000The image is slightly rotated so there could have been one update11:26
cxl000So if I build from git11:29
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faenilStskeeps, compositor running ;)12:23
Stskeepsfaenil: on bootup?12:25
faenilthough I need to modify lipstick-qt5 package12:26
faenilbecause I need to modify lipstick.service and also make a symlink in a .wants folder12:26
faenilso that lipstick is started at boot :)12:26
faenilalso, I have few questions for you, if you are not too busy12:27
faenil1) nemo-mobile-session requires xorg-launch-helper, and we don't want that...should I talk to Sage?12:28
Stskeepsfork nemo-mobile-session12:28
Stskeepsmake a -wayland one12:28
faenilalright, but I can't push my repos to nemo's repo, can I12:29
faenilI mean, someone should create the official package on github and create the hook, if I understood correctly12:29
Stskeepssure, but have it in your home repo first, and ask lbt to allow you to use webhooks12:29
faenilStskeeps, so that it goes to OBS and from there to official repo?12:30
faenilgreat, thanks12:30
faenil1c) should it require lipstick-qt5?12:32
faenilI mean, in xorg you have a server to Wayland it seems starting lipstick process is enough :/12:32
Stskeepswell, if lipstick is there, that's fine12:32
situfaenil: I wanted to start with application development for Nemo. Any suggestions for which apps to contribute to ?12:32
faenilStskeeps, ok, I'll use lipstick as requirement12:33
faenilsitu, let's see...12:33
faenilsitu, there's a nemo bugzilla :) you could start picking up a bug from there and fix it :)12:34
faenilStskeeps, 2) who puts stuff in /usr/lib/systemd/user?12:34
situfaenil: Right now I am downloading nemo i586 vm image. Is that good enough for development ?12:35
faenilit seems "systemctl enable" only puts the symlinks in /etc/systemd/user/12:35
faenilsitu, I think you'd better download i486, i586 has some issues, iirc12:35
faenilsitu, but I'm no VM user, I usually use the n950 for apps don't trust me too much on that ;)12:36
faenil(trying to fix that)12:36
Stskeepsfaenil: packages12:37
faenilStskeeps, ok, so I have to tell lipstick-qt5 to create that symlink12:37
faenilI thought there was some systemctl command for that12:37
faenilStskeeps, so .service file has that service is installed in /usr/lib/systemd/user/ by the .rpm, and this is ok12:38
faenilStskeeps, but I thought systemctl would also create the symlink when enabling the service, isn't there any ctl command for that?12:39
Stskeepsit doesn't, package puts it in there itself i believe12:39
faenilbecause it does create the symlink when systemd parses the WantedBy, but in the wrong folder :)12:40
faenilalright thanks anyway ;)12:40
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faenilStskeeps, 3) what about all the packages which have in their .service files? if we remove xorg-launch-helper there will be no in the system12:41
Stskeepsfaenil: it's a bug if they have12:41
faenilshould I change all those packages and create -wayland versions?12:41
cxl000faenil, You need to remove those12:41
Stskeepstell me which packages first12:41
faenilStskeeps, yeah maybe they go away together with xorg-launch-helper you say :)12:41
cxl000faenil,  booster-qtcomponents-qt5.service and booster-qtquick2.service at least will need Environment=QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland and have After= Requires= lipstick.service12:43
faenilcxl000, ok thanks for the hint ;)12:43
faenilcxl000, so the official service files are wrong? I meant the one in booster-qtquick2.rpm for example12:44
cxl000You have to remove the xorg target lines from the packaging to which the unit file belongs12:45
faenilcxl000, yes I understood that12:45
faenilbut aren't those qt5 packages already using wayland?12:45
cxl000no they are using X12:46
Stskeepshave /var/lib/environment/nemo/ui.cofn stuff12:46
Stskeepsand /var/lib/environment/compositor/12:46
Stskeepsor you'll be in a world of hurt12:46
faenilcxl000, oh ok, well then we need modified -wayland packages for those too? (Stskeeps)12:46
Stskeepsi'm a bit surprised those boosters have those12:47
Stskeepsspecial: ^ for later12:47
cxl000lipstick.service need -platform eglfs added to the exec line12:48
faenilalright I'll wait for input by special on that matter then12:48
faenilcxl000, yeah I've done that already12:48
faeniland this was the next question12:48
faenilStskeeps, for lipstick.service we need few env variables12:48
faeniland some of them (like gallium) are VM only I guess...12:48
faenilhow to handle that?12:48
Stskeepswell, each hw adaptation has special confs on top of normal configurations12:49
StskeepsEnvironmentFile or EnvironmentDir=12:49
Stskeepsi forget which12:49
Stskeepsyou'll want to do /*.conf12:49
faenilbut then, who installs the envfile12:49
Stskeepshw adaptation12:50
Stskeepsand ui in general12:50
Stskeepsone may come from the session12:50
faenilmm I need to look for that package then12:50
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faenilthis is my current lipstick.service12:51
faenil(of course won't work for all platforms, it was just to get it working12:51
vgradecxl000: QT_COMPOSITOR_NEGATE_INVERTED_Y=1 to fix reversed image12:51
faenilvgrade, that is n9xx specific I believe12:52
vgradefaenil: depends on hardware12:53
vgradesome adaptations require it some don't12:53
faenilok ;)12:53
Aardfaenil: I suggest kicking the n9 into 32bpp mode12:55
faenilAard, ok I'll write that down, starting from VM :) thanks12:55
Aardfaenil: <- I started preparing it there. it's complete set of configuration you need to get wayland on 32bpp up on n950, though it's not integrated in hw-adaptation as I didn't have time to merge it with the main configuration (and sort out issues that plymouth does not make much sense on the wayland image)12:56
faenilAard, ok :) I'll ping you when we get to the n9xx image :D12:57
Stskeepsand yes, 32bpp on VM too13:00
Stskeepsdon't bother with anything else13:00
piggz_what is the glacier ui?  does it exist in code or only concept?13:00
faenilStskeeps, ok, should it work oob?13:01
faenilpiggz_, concept13:01
cxl000vgrade, thanks I'll give it a try. Dont suppose you have come across something to swap x and y axis13:01
faenilpiggz_, I'm trying to make wayland VM image, then we'll start working on integrating QtQuickControls from Qt5, and then we'll make Glacier style for QQC, and then start porting apps over to Qt513:01
Aardfaenil: and I suggest you use a lipstick service file similar to what we use in jolla:
Aardand then you put a file into /var/lib/environment/compositor/60-vm-whatever.conf13:03
faenilAard, username and pass? :P13:03
Aardargh, I thought I put it to pastebin13:03
piggz_faenil: cool13:03
Aardfaenil: there you go
faenillet's see what I missed :D13:04
Aardin the pastebin is the example configuration file from the n9 (which is provided in the configuration I linked above), just take it and adjust it for vm13:04
faenilyeah thanks ;)13:06
faeniloh yeah I forgot Requires pre user13:06
Aardyour service file is mostly fine, you just did the parameter passing in a very unelegent way13:08
faenilyeah, forgive my first attempt at .service files :D13:08
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AardI have my minions^Wspecialists for that kind of work, so I can just glimpse at what they did already ;)13:13
faenilahah :)13:13
faenilI'm having lots of fun! learning a lot :D13:13
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piggz_how does the build service work....i see that the apps/libs are hosted in does that result in rpms for the various ports?13:17
faenilpiggz_, there's automagic on github side13:18
faenilthere are webhooks in github repos, whenever you update something on github, OBS takes files and rebuilds pacakge13:18
faenilsomething like that :P13:18
faenilStskeeps, there's already /var/lib/environment/nemo/something.conf in Nemo...not sure I need to edit that though13:20
faenilthanks vgrade I'll read that as well :)13:20
faenilmm I'll read it later :D13:21
faenilnemo-mobile-session and nemo-x86-configs don't have webhooks13:26
vgradecxl000: something like into
Stskeepswe have evdevtouch rotation already13:27
Stskeepscheck mer-packages/qtbase?13:28
vgradeah ok,
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faenilso, what should I do if I want to modify some package? I remember there was something about spec and yaml, autogeneration etc13:44
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faenilI mean, if I want to modify the packaging files13:47
Stskeepsare they using _service?13:47
faenilStskeeps, seems not, lipstick-colorful-home and nemo-mobile-session don't have webhooks from what I see13:49
faenilnot even nemo-configs-x8613:49
Stskeepsso just use branch13:50
faenilobs branch you mean13:50
Stskeepsosc branch, yes13:50
faenilI thought more packages had webhooks13:51
Stskeepsall of mw13:51
Stskeepsapps not so much13:51
vgrade looks like it has hooks13:52
faenilvgrade, yeah...I seemed to remember there was a file on github when there was webhook13:53
faenilbut I was wrong, it's on OBS13:53
faenilStskeeps, all of them have webhooks, just checked on OBS13:53
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faenilso I just need to modify the git repo right?13:54
faenilbut what about packaging itself, the .spec is generated from the .yaml iirc from old times13:55
faenilshould I change yaml, and it will recreate the spec? or what?13:55
Stskeepsjust the git repo - and you change yaml and run specify13:55
faenilok so I have to clone it on my disk13:56
faenilok thanks13:56
Stskeepsmb should become your new best friend13:57
faenilthough if I want to test the changes to lipstick I still have to branch on OBS13:57
faenilStskeeps, oh, always great to meet new people...any wiki article about it? :D13:57
Stskeepsset up a sb2 target and then do mb build -t TARGETNAME rpm/foo.spec13:58
Stskeepssimple as that13:58
faenilgreat :)13:58
cxl000Stskeeps, Just completed a build of libhybris from git but now back to assert error in minimer. I'll have to resume debugging tomorrow13:58
faenilI guess I need a special rootfs for that target? a rootfs with the same packages of my wayland image?13:58
Stskeepscxl000: ok, cya13:59
cxl000good night13:59
faenilcxl000, good night13:59
faenilcxl000, and thanks for helping me out :)13:59
Stskeepsfaenil: just make an image with -f fs for now14:00
Stskeepsfaenil: of your own image14:00
Stskeepsand make sure to add libsb2 as a package in it14:00
faenil-f is deprecated I think14:00
faenilat least mic create doesn't like it :P14:01
Stskeepsmic cr fs14:01
Stskeepsinstead of raw14:01
faenilyeah yeah14:01
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faenilI was wondering because autogenerated ks files also have "-f" in the mic parameters14:01
faenilbut it seems it doesn't accept it14:01
Stskeepsprobably just a leftover14:03
faenilok ;)14:03
faenilcreating :)14:04
faenilStskeeps, is it safe to have some packages from 5.0.2 and some from 5.1?14:08
piggz_i wish i was clever enough to fix qml-compositor :)14:09
faenilpiggz_, what do you mean to fix?14:09
piggz_its not working here for me ... no apps show up when i run them, the output suggests:14:10
piggz_QQmlComponent: Component is not ready14:10
piggz_file:///usr/lib/qt5/examples/qtwayland/qml-compositor/main.qml:90: TypeError: Cannot set property 'targetWidth' of null14:10
faeniloh :(14:10
Stskeepspiggz_: on what device?14:10
Stskeepshow do you run it?14:11
piggz_exactly as on ... btw...those messages appear in that page also, so maybe its expected14:12
piggz_and the problem is elsewhere14:12
Stskeepsrestart compositor, try again14:12
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piggz_Stskeeps: have done, no difference14:16
piggz_trying both qmlscene and my app, both fail to display anything, but i can see debug otuput from my app ... not sure what qmlscene displays14:16
faenilStskeeps, what should I use in sb2-init here
Stskeepssb2-init -L --sysroot=/ -C --sysroot=/ -m sdk-build -n -N jolla-i486 /opt/cross/bin/i486-meego-linux-gnu-gcc14:30
Stskeepsis what i use14:30
faenilmm ok I'm missing files in /bin14:31
Stskeepsjolla-i486 = TARGET_NAME14:31
faenilyeah got that14:31
faenilbut I only have armv7hl in opt/cross/bin14:31
faenilI think I need some package, going to read the sdk setup guide14:32
Stskeepsyes, cross-i486-gcc and cross-i486-binutils14:33
faenilok thanks14:33
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faenilStskeeps, worth adding here?
faenilI didn't find that info anywhere14:35
Stskeepsprolly yes14:36
dm8tbrwhat's an OK image of nemo for the N950 to test some stuff quickly?14:36
faenildm8tbr, latest one? not sure what you need for it to be "OK" :/14:37
faenilStskeeps, alright, though there is no pattern for that14:37
dm8tbrjust boots to UI and able to make and receive calls is enough right now14:37
dm8tbrcan be either wayland or xorg, don't care14:37
* dm8tbr checks images14:37
faenildm8tbr, I heard someone had problems with the cellular part on the latest image..14:38
faenilnot sure if that was fixed14:38
dm8tbrk, will try14:39
* dm8tbr decides to try
faenillbt, how do you feel about adding Mer-SB2-i486 to patterns ? :)14:40
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faenilI think I will add some stuff to the wiki in the meanwhile, to avoid others to have some problems as me14:46
faenilvery insteresting I have to say14:50
faenilsb2 -t nemoWayland_i486VM -m sdk-install -R rpm --rebuilddb14:50
faenilrpm: --rebuilddb: unknown option14:50
Stskeepsinstall rpm-build in the host14:52
Stskeepsi think14:52
dm8tbrhmmmm, interesting the information about an incoming voice-call is only on the system dbus, not on the session bus it seems14:53
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faenilStskeeps, mer sdk has it already14:54
Stskeepsfaenil: actually, does YOURTARGET/bin/rpm exist?14:55
faenilStskeeps, yes, otherwise it wouldn't say unknown option :)14:55
Stskeepsit would14:56
faenilit's rpm returning the error14:56
faenilwho would return that error if rpm wasn't there?14:56
Stskeepsyes, and sb2 uses the host rpm for that14:56
Stskeepssb2-init pastebin please14:56
faenilanyway, target/bin/rpm exists ;914:56
Stskeepsright, i trust you, but i'd like to verify14:57
Stskeepsno, sb2-init14:58
faenilisn't that sb2-init?14:58
Stskeepsno, sb2-init without any parameters14:58
faeniloh ok :P14:58
faenilwell, I see the difference in the path ... compared to n950 target15:00
Stskeeps /parentroot/srv/mer/targets/nemoWayland_i486VM15:00
Stskeepsthat doesn't look 100% kosher15:00
Stskeepsls -al /parentroot/srv/mer/targets/nemoWayland_i486VM/usr/lib/rpm/rpmrc15:02
faenilno file15:02
Stskeepsls -al /parentroot/srv/mer/targets/nemoWayland_i486VM/bin/sh15:02
Stskeepsls -al /parentroot/srv/mer/targets/nemoWayland_i486VM/usr/bin/rpmdb ?15:03
Stskeepsls -al /parentroot/srv/mer/targets/nemoWayland_i486VM/bin/rpm ??15:04
faenilit's there15:04
Stskeepsmy god, what have you done..15:04
faenilI followed the wiki guide....15:05
Stskeepsok, show me your .ks?15:05
Stskeepsand command line used to make it?15:06
faenilsudo mic create fs --record-pkgs=name --pkgmgr=zypp --arch=i486 nemo-i486-vm-rnd-compositoronly_SB2target.ks --tokenmap=MER_RELEASE:latest,NEMO_RELEASE:latest,SSU_RELEASE_TYPE:rnd,FLAVOUR:devel15:07
faeniljust replaced raw with fs15:07
faenilit created the folder in mic-output15:08
faeniland I mv'ed it to targets/15:08
faeniland followed the wiki step by step, copypasting commands...15:10
Stskeepsbuilding image atm15:12
faenilok...sorry to waste your time on this :/ hope it's not a mistake on my side15:12
Stskeepsno problem, it's weekend15:13
dm8tbrhmmm, ok, so for some reason which I fail to understand I can't listen to the session bus under nemo over SSH15:27
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dm8tbr"DISPLAY=:0 dbus-monitor --session" works on everything else I've tried15:28
faenillbt, ping15:31
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faenilStskeeps, discovered anything?15:32
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dm8tbrOK, so after initial survey it looks like dbus messages on nemo and harmattan are very similar or the same15:33
MSameerthat is expected ;)15:34
dm8tbrbut I wanted to confirm that15:35
faenilMSameer, hey :)15:35
dm8tbrnow the interesting bit will be if the jolla phone will inherit enough to not necessitate a rewrite of what I'm planning15:35
MSameerfaenil: hello hello :)15:35
MSameerdm8tbr: what are you planning?15:36
dm8tbrorg.freedesktop.Telepathy.* seems to provide everything what I want to know at the moment15:36
dm8tbrMSameer: looking at how to make SOwatch future proof by making sure it works on nemo too and with something that will be likely also in the jolla phone15:36
MSameerfaenil: sorry I missed the conversation that day, got busy and the tab was hidden in my IRC client15:37
dm8tbrcurrently it uses ckit15:37
faenilMSameer, no problem ;) I learned about how systemd works in the meanwhile15:37
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faenilplanned the changes15:37
faenilforked repos...15:37
dm8tbrand after looking what statefs exposes I decided to look at dbus instead as that seems to have more data15:37
faeniland now I needed to test stuff with proper edited rpms15:37
faenilso I was setting up i486 SB2 target15:37
faenilbut something went wrong, rpm --rebuiddb says "unknown option"15:38
MSameerfaenil: GOOD WORK15:38
faenilStskeeps is currently investigating15:38
MSameerdm8tbr: I cannot coment on the jolla phone part but I assume the dbus part can be abstracted in a file15:38
MSameerwhich would make it easily replacable15:39
MSameeri usually have these things configurable in an ini style file and just use QDBusInterface15:40
* dm8tbr hasn't written stuff for dbus yet, so will need to take a plunge anyway. probably look at how others implemented dbus interactions15:41
faenilStskeeps, I don't see why the wiki says /srv/mer/targets/ for n950 rootfs, and /parentroot/srv/mer/targets/ for the general target though...that seems fishy to me15:48
MSameer/parentroot is visible only inside sdk15:50
faenilMSameer, yeah, but the rootfs is also created inside the sdk15:51
faenilMSameer, so those folders are different, as they're both used from inside the SDK chroot (as asked by the wiki)15:52
faenilthings end up in two different places15:52
faeniland that looks...weird to me15:53
faenilMSameer, n950 rootfs*, I meant15:53
MSameeri always have issues installing sdk so I would rather refrain16:08
faenilI hope carsten will be back before I have to leave :/16:08
piggz_haha, i thought 'im not getting anywhere with this, i wonder what happens if i run lipstik' ... not realising i had x11 forwarding...i now have an n950 gui as my background in kde16:13
faenilwhich means you have x11 active, which is not good16:14
faenilweren't you testing wayland?16:14
piggz_i was, and wayland is still running on the phone, so lipstik used the ssh x11 session16:15
faenilmm ok16:15
faenilso you stopped user-session@100000.service ?16:15
piggz_im gonna disable wayland i think16:16
faenilpity you didn't get it to work...I haven't tried yet on n95016:16
faenilbut on VM the homescreen runs16:16
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xavinuxhi people, happy weekend16:20
faenilxavinux, hey :) to you too16:20
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faenilSfiet_Konstantin, o/16:37
Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil: o/16:38
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* faenil patpats Stskeeps 17:10
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faenilStskeeps, none replies about webhooks :P17:12
faenilsaturday :)17:12
faenilI branched nemo-mobile-session,
faeniltar_git error, as expected...but I don't know what I should do about it17:13
Stskeepsfaenil: something must have gone wrong in your 'mv'17:22
faenilStskeeps, yeah np I did it all over, and it worked17:22
faenilyeah something must have happened during the mv17:23
faenilStskeeps, how should I behave with the webhooks branching?17:23
faenilI'm leaving in 2 minutes ;) want to make sure I know what to do tomorrow17:24
Stskeepsfaenil: mm, bit complex topic, but 'get a hold of lbt'17:25
faenilimpossible task it seems.... :P17:25
faenil(to get hold of him :D)17:25
faenilalright I guess I won't be able to finish this before people come back from weekend17:26
faenilI'm off, have a nice evening Stskeeps !17:28
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SageStskeeps: faenil, I think xorg-launch-helper shouldn't be required by the session anymore eventhough we use xorg still as main ithing22:06
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