Wednesday, 2013-09-04

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timohadoes nemomobile have working MMS sending and receiving already?06:17
timohaI can see something database handling06:18
timohabut not sure how MMS are sent and received06:18
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niqtmorning07:01
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locusfmorning07:43
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cxl000w00t, Aard could you have a look at https://github.com/nemomobile/ngfd/pull/17 This is another x86_64 build fix. I've preserved the cast to int but think the debug prints of pointer should be cast unsigned long long08:01
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alteregoI guess, the N950 is probably the greatest device Nokia ever created then :)11:36
stephgrandom question11:41
stephganyone seen a nook HD (or HD+) in person11:41
stephgthey seem ridiculously cheap11:42
alteregoI have a friend that has one, he seems to like it.11:45
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mikhasnever liked the display of that one11:47
mikhasor the fragile HWKB open/close mechanism11:47
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gryWhere can I configure whether sounds from calls (the bell and the sounds from the person speaking) come to speaker or earphones? I think something accidentally caused that they go to earphones and I'm not seeing how to reverse that change.11:50
gryThey go nowhere when earphones are not plugged in.11:50
alteregoWhat's under /usr/lib/voicecall/plugins ?11:52
juicemealterego, I would disagree on that... at least N900 owners have a bit different opinion :)11:52
alteregojuiceme: I have an N900 too, sure the version on Harmattan N950 wasn't maybe as mature as Fremantle on the N900,11:53
alteregoBut it is a slick device, and more than capable of being a better N900 ;)11:53
alteregoThough without micro SD and CIR11:53
juicemeyes sure but the build quality sucks big time :)11:53
alteregoPeople should just be more careful with their things ;)11:54
juicemeor so I have been told. Never really held one in my hand though.11:54
alteregoIt feels nice. Not flimsy.11:54
alteregoMy only real gripe with it is probably the dodgy screen and cellular reception.11:55
juicemegood for you, now dont try to make me jealous as I have weaned myself from the idea of ever seeing one on reality :)11:55
alteregoSorry :)11:55
juicemeyes I have been told the screen develops problems easily11:55
juicemenp :)11:55
juicemeam N9 owner myself, and happy with that as it is11:56
alteregoI haven't used mine as much as others' so I don't suffer that issue. I have N9 for development so ... :)11:56
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niqti have create ks file for n900-wayland https://github.com/niqt/NemomobileWaylandKickStart, but for now i have only blink cursor12:02
sledgesnice niqt ! \o/12:03
sledgesblinking cursor is better than kernel panic :)12:03
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alteregoPeople should write software that panics :)12:08
gryalterego: libvoicecall-ngf-plugin.so  libvoicecall-playback-manager-plugin.so  libvoicecall-telepathy-plugin.so12:08
gryI'm on April version of Nemo, mind.. (just so you don't expect things to be the way they are)12:08
alteregogry: maybe update then ;)12:08
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gryit doesn't boot after updating, typically; the June image available boots in black screen without ssh access..12:09
alteregoOh, hrm.12:09
alteregoHave you tried the wayland image?12:10
alteregoIt seems to work fine for me.12:10
gryI'd play with it during weekends, right now I'm just trying to keep the thing working for two more days or so12:10
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gryit suddenly stopped making noises12:10
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gryby 'waylang image' do you mean the snapshot which wasn't yet called a 'release'?12:11
alteregogry: yes, but it works okay :P12:11
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gryI'll download that and play with it, thanks. (Right now just trying to figure out what file the sound settings live in.)12:13
alteregoMostly resource policy stuff with pulseaudio routing rules.12:13
grysnapshots/repos or snapshots/images? The latter is old.12:13
alteregoUnless the problem is in the software, but I've not encountered any routing issues myself recently.12:13
alteregoBut my setup isn't exactly standard either.12:14
grywhat directory would these rules be in, usually?12:14
alterego/usr/share/pulseaudio/12:15
alteregoI'm hoping it's unlikely to be an issue there.12:15
alterego/usr/share/policy/12:16
alteregoAs well holds audio routing configuration.12:16
sledgesgry, wayland image has not been officialy built12:16
sledgesunofficial: https://www.dropbox.com/s/d1alps0t784e6q5/nemo-armv7hl-n950-rnd-20130903.tar.bz212:17
sledges(wayland image)12:17
alteregoI think this might be a bug in the playback manager plugin.12:18
alterego"for voicecall"12:18
grysledges: thank you. it's going to mature a bit before release, or is someone already going to upload that officially any minute?12:18
alteregogry: does it behave the same for consecutive calls? Both inbound and outbound?12:18
gryyes12:18
grywell, no12:18
sledgesgry, it's far from maturity12:19
sledgesin the sense of "full blown mobile OS"12:19
gryI think I had it make a normal call (ie with sound to speakers) after reboot, then it broke again12:19
sledgesbut you can perform voice calls :)12:19
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alteregogry: And you don't have headphones plugged in? And you've checked volume levels?12:19
sledgesso it will be rolling release with build-your-own-image attitude for quite some time12:19
sledgesgry, try latest release12:20
sledgesi had issue with voicecall some months ago12:20
gryIt did not help that (i) the voicecall interface has buttons to toggle stuff with unchanging image on them (ii) volume level is unclear, as I don't know which color is 0% or 100%. I tried to play with volume levels and that did not change the 'where it sends sound to' behaviour12:20
sledgeslatest non-wayland (i.e. x11/qt4) release is 20th June12:20
gry(no, sound just goes nowhere without headphones plugged in)12:20
gryok, I'll try that12:21
alteregoThe UI does need much love that is true.12:21
alteregoThat UI was basically hacked in about a week whilst I first started working on voicecall, and little else happened to it since.12:22
sledgesgry, the bug i found on 14th June: http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23nemomobile/%23nemomobile.2013-06-14.log.html#t2013-06-14T14:17:0012:22
alteregoIt was more a test harness than anything for me really ;)12:22
grypackage voicecall-qt5-plugin-resource-policy is not installed12:22
alteregogry: yeah, you don't need that.12:23
alteregoDuring the development the way of handling audio routing changed somewhat, think that has been removed in latest versions.12:24
gryah, I see what it was now12:24
sledgesand here's how it got finally fixed: http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23nemomobile/%23nemomobile.2013-06-14.log.html#t2013-06-14T17:00:1512:24
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alteregogry: care to enlighten me? :)12:27
grysledges: voicecall-qt5-plugin-ofono would I need that? (https://pastee.org/7fvbc)12:27
sledgesgry, can't remember12:28
sledgestrial and error ;)12:28
gryalterego: I was referring to 'yay I get the idea of what sledges's early bug was'; I've not yet figured out current issue)12:28
sledgesyes, the remedy for you may or may not work..12:28
sledgesin my case sound was coming out from loudspeaker12:29
sledges(imagine how i got embarrassed when picked up the phone here at the workplace :DD)12:29
sledgesand there was no way to change the audio route via buttons12:29
gryI'm not seeing post-July images in snapshots dir for some reason12:31
sledgesreleases12:31
grynot there either? I was pretty sure june-20 is latest it has12:31
sledgesyes12:31
sledges13:20 < sledges> latest non-wayland (i.e. x11/qt4) release is 20th June12:32
sledges;)12:32
gryI'm just trying to find wayland thing.. ah right, I'm sleeping already. it's in dropbox. okay.12:32
sledges:)12:32
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sledgesremember, wayland is "back to the drawing board" thing ;))12:33
sledgeshttps://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Wayland_status_matrix12:33
mikhassledges, " maliit broken so no WPA-key entering possible"? I thought faenil had fixed that?12:34
sledgesyes, he had maliit working. if someone could test and confirm is now in the latest image, and not forgotten in faenil's hackery galore, would be great ;)12:35
sledgesas I haven't seen any very recent commits to qtwayland (where the fix was)12:36
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* sledges haz no n9 here..12:38
gryI did this -- https://pastee.org/qqqe4 -- and rebooted; nothing at all appears on incoming call, but sound is okay12:40
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grydon't see how to reverse this action (asking to install voicecall-core voicecall-libs says they're already installed)12:40
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sledgesothers (-qt5-) provide those12:41
gryyes, and they're installed... no gui appears now, but sound does12:42
sledgesvoicecall-ui12:42
sledgeslook for12:42
sledgessound through correct earpiece?12:43
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grycorrect behaviour is 'sound through speakers, while earpiece is not plugged in'. incorrect one is 'no sound when earpiece is not plugged in, and sound in earphones when they're plugged in'12:44
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alteregoearpeice is the internal speaker, ihf is internal loudspeaker and headset is audio jack output and input ;)12:47
gryhm. voicecall-ui is simply not there. https://pastee.org/xjb8n - if I don't figure it out I'll reinstall it with something, either old image or the dropbox one12:47
sledgesvoicecall-ui-reference12:47
gryok, so I've lied in my last line12:47
sledgesand it's installed...12:47
gry(it just doesn't want to use internal speakers)12:48
sledgeslol so if gui is not there, you cannot answer the call ;)12:48
alteregohmm, where's the playback manager plugin?12:49
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jake9xx_hello, https://github.com/nemomobile/plymouth-lite/pull/2 waiting, it blocked BOSSbot to accept plymouth-lite in promotion12:54
gryvoicecall-ui gives error -- 'module stage.rubyx.voicecall is not installed'12:54
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gryinstalling 'voicecall' package sort of fixed it, will test in the morning; thanks12:57
sledgesg_nite12:58
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locusfsledges: the fix from faenil was a custom shader, which I think only decreases performance, so his fix is probably still pending, while the real issue remains unsolved14:17
sledgeslocusf, he mentioned Jolla'd fixed this though14:18
locusfmight be yes14:18
locusfbut the real issue that current wayland image has a qtwayland bug which prevents alpha valued textures from being transparent14:18
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sledgesouch14:19
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locusf(my guess)14:21
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locusfso thats basically the root of the maliit issue, because it uses a top part of entirely alpha'd texture and then renders the bottom part as keyboard14:23
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sledgescan't we composit just the bottom part instead?14:24
locusfI dunno14:25
sledgesyes, everything sounds very surfacey/bltty..14:26
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w00tlocusf: just go ahead and merge the shader fix for now14:37
locusfw00t: where is it?14:37
mikhassledges, one could14:38
mikhasbut then you'd clip the key magnifier for instance, if used in top row14:38
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mikhasand you wouldn't be able to use fancy drop shadows to indiciate that the VKB "hovers" over the application14:38
w00tlocusf: wherever faenil has it :)14:38
locusfI don't have the slightest clue where it is :D14:39
sledgesmikhas, too true. and qml injection is not a solution, since maliit should appear on top of anything..14:39
mikhasI had a fancy windowed solution for Qt4.8 and QGraphicsView14:40
mikhasbut QML and dynamic property changes simply doesnt work well together with XWindows14:40
mikhasX11 expects property changes in a slow and ordered fashion14:40
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mikhasi.e., set position only on visible windows14:40
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mikhasI might be able to try that windowed solution with QtWayland at some point14:41
mikhasbut my setup is borked14:41
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mikhasthe windowed solution avoids compositing entirely14:41
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mikhasbut it's kind of a joke if Wayland doesn't get *that* part right ;-)14:42
sledgeslocusf, w00t none of these ones I gather?.. :{ https://github.com/mikkoharju/qtwayland/commits/show14:42
mikhasalso, Wayland's sub-surfaces are supposed to be used, but we'd have to get support for that into QtWayland/QQuickView first, no?14:43
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sledgesmikhas, i guess..14:43
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mikhasso yeah, I kind of support w00t in that you should just commit whatever hack works right now, the right fix probably affects too many components14:44
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locusffaenil says its not ready for merging so lets wait14:46
sledgesshucks :)14:47
sledgesw00t, pls create qtquickcontrols under nemo:devel:mw14:47
sledges:)14:47
sledges(empty package)14:47
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: shouldn't it better to use webhook ?14:49
Sfiet_Konstantin(sorry, I'm arriving on the chan)14:49
sledgesis already there14:49
sledges.......14:49
* sledges confused as to when it'd gotten created14:50
Sfiet_Konstantinthen no need to create a package on OBS14:50
sledgesone of those days I guess :D14:50
Sfiet_Konstantinwebhook do it automatically14:50
sledgesSfiet_Konstantin, understood that now14:50
sledgesgot confused with files being as old as "2 weeks ago"14:51
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: hehe :)14:51
Sfiet_Konstantinah :D14:51
sledgesthanks for the nice blog post Sfiet_Konstantin :)14:51
* Sfiet_Konstantin is trying to do a Nemo related project at school14:51
Sfiet_Konstantin(try to give helping hands in UI)14:51
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: :)14:52
sledgess/Sfiet_Konstantin/Sfiet_Konstantin Sfiet_Konstantin :D/14:52
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: just a story to tell. Found it useful to tell it the day Nokia got bought14:52
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sledgesif you remember our one of the first greetings many months ago :))14:52
Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil's story was quite nice14:52
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: yeah :)14:52
Sfiet_Konstantinat first I thought you were working for Jolla :P14:52
sledges:)) thanks that's a compliment14:53
w00tsledges: with the webhook already set up, the OBS package will be created when the git repository is tagged14:53
sledgesand then Sfiet_Konstantin you started talking with chriadam|away, I remember mediating between the timezones ;D14:54
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: oh yeah14:54
Sfiet_Konstantin:O14:54
Sfiet_Konstantinactually, thanks to you14:54
Sfiet_Konstantinyou met some people at Jolla, so that nemo-qml-plugin-social got created14:54
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sledgesw00t, brilliant. now waiting for all those blocked packages :))14:55
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: :D14:55
w00tyou'll be waiting a few hours probably14:56
w00tnew qt build => the world rebuilds14:56
sledges:D14:56
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Sfiet_Konstantinw00t: what's in the new Qt build ?15:01
Sfiet_Konstantinnew scene graph ?15:01
Sfiet_Konstantinor simply some nice patches ?15:01
sledgeshttps://build.merproject.org/package/view_file?file=_service%3Atar_git%3Aqt5.changes&package=qtbase&project=mer%3Aqt%3Adevel&rev=1c5f7aa133781aabc775fc6151ae9bef15:01
sledgeswas looking right there now15:01
sledgesnothing special :D15:01
sledges(sorry special )15:01
sledges:)15:01
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: thanks :)15:01
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: well, special deserves to be ping. He had chosen his nickname15:02
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Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: maybe other stuff hidden in qtdeclarative / qtwayland15:02
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sledgeshttp://www.merproject.org/logs/%23mer-boss/%23mer-boss.2013-09-04.log15:03
sledges:)15:03
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sledgesand when faenil's qtwayland patch kicks in, the world will rebuild again :)15:04
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Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: naaa, qtWayland isn't much a hard dep15:08
Sfiet_Konstantinfor a lot of packages ...15:08
sledgesi see15:09
Sfiet_Konstantinjust lipstick IIRC15:09
Sfiet_Konstantinbut QtCore ...15:09
sledgesgood to know15:09
sledges:)))15:09
Sfiet_Konstantineverything containing -qt5 is depending on QtCore :D15:09
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alteregoautotools -_-15:28
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Mric_sledges, hey :)18:44
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Mric_sledges, I'm already one day late but I'm going to try the image you send me yesterday and I will update wiki about the possible fixes :)18:45
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NeeDforKillhi all19:04
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locusfhi19:12
NeeDforKilllocusf how it's gone?19:13
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locusfNeeDforKill: all good19:15
NeeDforKillmaliit working?19:16
locusfnot yet19:16
locusfwill wait for faenil to send his PR for patched shader19:16
locusfbut the real issue is deep within qtwayland19:17
locusfits a bug which prevents alpha valued textures from being transparent19:18
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Mric_locusf, ouch .... hope it gets fixed19:35
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szopinhelo21:56
szopinniqt: could you tell me what one can do with .ks draft?21:57
szopinsledgeas posted on tmo with no explanation but put you as contact21:58
szopinsorry for out of the blue21:58
szopinwayland testing on N900?21:59
niqtszopin, i created a experimental ks file to build n900 nemoimage with waylant22:00
szopinhow can i try it out?22:00
szopinin scratchbox make?22:00
szopinor is this from creating img process?22:00
niqtcreating image22:01
szopinthere was literally only few buzzwords22:01
szopinthx, good clue22:01
niqtbut at moment with this image you can't to do null22:01
szopinoh?22:01
niqtonly see blink cursor22:01
szopinno kb interaction?22:01
niqtnull22:01
szopinhwkb should i say as jolla is not going to spend money on that22:02
szopin:(22:02
wmaronethey could always make a keyboard  "other half"22:02
szopincan you interact with it in any way or is it just display test?22:02
szopinor is it blinking as text rendering is not handled yet?22:03
niqtit's display test for now, i hope to run the applications22:04
szopinbash?22:04
niqtonly display22:04
szopinhow far is it from bash? new drawing lib?22:04
szopinor is it rewriting all there is in X?22:05
niqtMy goal is to run qt5 applications22:06
szopinxwayland hopefully will be out soon, xmir is supposedly already22:06
szopinbut haven't had the chance to test it22:07
specialwell, the first approach to look at is if wsegl could be easily adapted to n900, no?22:08
szopinxterm in wayland is all i need from jolla really :) or is mc X dependent? that would hurt22:08
special(which would avoid X entirely)22:08
szopinchecking wsegl...22:08
specialhttps://github.com/nemomobile/ti-omap3-sgx-wayland-wsegl/22:09
szopinso making sgx drivers work, but for xterm soft is fine or is wayland no tearing banning this?22:10
specialnot sure I follow.22:11
szopinwsegl plugin for sgx drivers22:12
szopinbut you can skip gfx and render with openmesa or something22:12
szopinfor xterm it is totally fine22:12
szopinunless you watch star wars ascii22:12
szopinthere might be tearing22:13
szopinwhich wayland gets rid off22:13
specialassume software rendering is not an option at all22:13
szopinwhich wayland gets rid off22:13
szopinso ban soft rendering?22:13
szopinnot an option?22:13
specialand assume xterm doesn't run under wayland :p22:13
specialnemo has fingerterm22:13
szopinor is xwayland going to deliver this?22:14
szopin:)22:14
szopingood enough22:14
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szopinnemo google results: 9 first oceanography, movie about fish, latin word wiki, last option: nemo - mer wiki, we need some positioning from google, they will surely help other open source projects22:16
Aardszopin: wayland sgx currently without vsync -> tearing. no idea if that's fixable, but device is usable (though not production quality)22:16
szopinaard: thanks22:17
szopinand this was the last result on a search coming from a guy who ends on TMO 99% of the time, good work google22:18
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Aardszopin: I have the problem that for those kind of topics I end up finding what I said about it a few months ago when I search for it :/22:20
szopingoogle facebooks a lot22:20
szopini see it all the time, my work has different country outgoing ip22:21
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szopinand google searches are so brillliantly different22:21
szopinlike fb favouring telling you about friends with different opinion22:21
szopinor it is just discouraging private googling during work22:22
Aardit got dumbed down a lot. nowadays you usually need to force it to search what you want by putting each word in quotes (and even then it sometimes thinks it's smarter than you) if you want to get any kind of usable results22:22
tj___hi, probably a stupid question, but where can you get the obs service tar_git mentioned at https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Development?22:23
Aardsad thing is, the other search engines are still more crap22:23
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szopinsearch.lores.eu22:26
szopinfravia lives on :)22:30
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szopinI'm sure he'd have a laugh though: In the second part of his works Fravia explained how the content is structured today on the world wide web and the difficulties of finding relevant information through search engines because of the growing number of ads[11]  [12]  that search engines promote today. KitKat :D22:37
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