Sunday, 2013-10-13

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locusfNeeDforKill: hi07:21
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faenillocusf, hey08:38
faenilmorning guys08:38
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Morpog_PCfaenil, why is opensans still only in your repo? :)09:29
faenilMorpog_PC, ahm, don't know I remember sledges was publishing it on nemo few days ago09:30
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Morpog_PCso https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick-colorful-home/pull/26 could be merged?09:30
faenilanyway it's just a matter of "I'm not sure if it has to be packaged this way, so I'm not publishing it publicly"09:30
faenilnope, if it's not there already :)09:31
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Morpog_PChmm, can't find it09:32
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Morpog_PCbtw, I tried to search for the package that provides the pictures for plymouth09:33
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Morpog_PChttps://github.com/nemomobile/plymouth-lite/blob/master/rpm/plymouth-lite.spec#2109:33
Morpog_PCbut I can't find anything called boot-splash-screen09:33
faenilMorpog_PC, do you have ssh to VM?09:35
Morpog_PCyep09:36
Morpog_PCI also found that the images are in the plymouth folder09:36
Morpog_PC/usr/share/plymouth09:36
faenilMorpog_PC, yeah09:37
faenilMorpog_PC, just "rpm -qf /usr/share/plymouth/splash.png"09:37
Morpog_PCaaah :) I'm such a noob :D09:37
locusffaenil: hey09:37
faenilMorpog_PC, oh np, we always learn this way :)09:38
faenillocusf, o/09:38
locusfdamn trackpoint and studiess09:38
locusfMorpog_PC: I like your approach better than qwazix's09:39
locusfit makes a separate overlay on top of the keyboard09:39
locusfwhich is easier to do as the entire keyboard is a big mousearea09:39
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Morpog_PCdo ypu like it more because it's easier to do or because it works better? :D09:40
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locusfMorpog_PC: both :)09:40
Morpog_PCseems we need to do some voting then :)09:41
Morpog_PCmaybe sledges could have a voice too09:41
Morpog_PCall in all qwazix idea is also only an overlay09:42
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locusfoh09:42
locusfbut yours works like this: tap on the dot, the overlay becomes active and can browse text with the arrows, another tap on the middle dot and it goes away?09:45
Morpog_PCnope :)09:46
Morpog_PCit could work like that, but it wasn't meant to work like that09:47
faenilto keep you up to date with page status: currently it rotates but it doesn't animate when it's pushed on the stack09:47
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Morpog_PCok faenil, now that i know how the package is named and I found it also on OBS, how the hell do I find from which repo it comes from?10:00
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faenilMorpog_PC, paste link10:00
faenilOBS10:01
faenillink10:01
Morpog_PChttps://build.merproject.org/package/show?package=ce-backgrounds&project=nemo%3Adevel%3Aapps10:01
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Morpog_PCI've looked in all files with no success10:02
faenilMorpog_PC, it could be that there not even a repo for it :P10:02
Morpog_PCaah, so I need to poke sage about it?10:03
faenildon't know who's best, but try with some sailors tomorrow10:03
Morpog_PCwell, latest revision was commited by him10:04
faenilmaybe we'll make a repo for it on github10:04
Morpog_PCwell, it's just 2 files inside10:04
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faenilyes I know10:05
Morpog_PCbut could be needed if we want to have different background images for different devices/screen sizes10:06
Morpog_PCerrr boot images10:06
faenilyep10:08
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qwazixmorn!10:22
locusfmorn qwazix10:23
qwazixlocusf, how's it going?10:24
locusfqwazix: nothing much, studies :p10:24
qwazix:nod:10:24
locusfqwazix: I've taken a look at Morpog_PC's concept of the trackpad and I like it better than yours10:24
qwazixyep I saw10:25
qwazixbut what you said was exactly why I wasn't so hot about your approach to the trackpoint. It looks like it's something to tap on.10:25
qwazixbut what you said was exactly why I wasn't so hot about Morpog's approach to the trackpoint. It looks like it's something to tap on.10:25
qwazix*10:25
Morpog_PCqwazix, If I understand locusf he would like to tap on them10:26
locusfyeah10:26
qwazixThat's a whole different approach10:27
qwazixthe trackpoint target is too small to tap on10:27
Morpog_PCqwazix, I think he meant my first concept with arrow10:27
qwazixyeah, but how do you bring the arrows up? by tapping on the trackpoint?10:28
qwazix(assuming the arrows are tappable)10:29
locusfyeah thats how I had it figured out10:29
qwazixAs I understand it (Morpog_PC correct me if I am wrong) all the mockups are about artwork. The idea is that the cursor moves when you swipe starting from the trackpoint10:31
Morpog_PCqwazix, yes, that was our Idea.10:31
* alterego yawns10:31
qwazixI'd say let's stick with it, tapping  would be too hard with such a small space10:32
locusfthere is a problem with that approach, eg. the nemo keyboard is a big mousearea10:33
alteregoAnyone here using hybris on anything?10:34
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qwazixlocusf, please elaborate10:38
qwazixalterego, not yet (me atleast)10:39
alteregoI guess I'll just have to test the new packages myself :S10:39
locusfqwazix: its impossible to know wether the swype began on a key or on the trackpoint area10:39
qwazixcan't you get x,y onPressed?10:39
locusfyes but I gotta separate between the two areas10:40
locusfI guess10:40
qwazixIdea: create another mouseArea (m2) below the existing one(m1). On m1 if x,y are around the trackpoint, do mouse.accepted = false so that the event will propagate to m2. Then on m2 handle the gesture10:45
qwazix(it might be able to do the above without the additional MouseArea even)10:45
locusfhmm10:46
locusfits not a bad idea10:46
faenilyeah10:48
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Morpog_PCalterego, I think the chance io find someone using it is higher on #mer10:54
Morpog_PCto10:55
alteregoMorpog_PC: fair point10:55
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alteregoI should just bite the bullet and make myself an image.10:55
Morpog_PCfor which device?10:56
alteregoNexus 710:56
Morpog_PCmmmh, lovely :)10:56
alteregoIs the only Android device I have currently.10:56
Morpog_PCI got one too10:56
alterego:)10:56
alteregoI quite like it, thought not Android so much ;)10:56
Morpog_PCalso my only android device10:57
Morpog_PCit reboots quite often10:57
alteregoDo you find copy/paste annoying10:57
alterego?10:57
Morpog_PCyes10:57
alteregoYou get random reboots?10:57
alteregoMine has never done that.10:57
alteregoRunning odd firmware or stock?10:57
Morpog_PCsometimes from apps10:57
alteregoHmm, I have one app installed really, and that's an SSH client10:58
Morpog_PCmost times when it's loading and i touch the usb plug on device10:58
Morpog_PCchance that it reboots then is 50%10:58
Morpog_PCstock FW and rooted stock FW10:58
alteregoHeh, you could use it instead of a coin when making tough decisions?10:58
Morpog_PClol10:58
Morpog_PCfirefox browser and hackers keyboard are some nice apps10:59
Morpog_PCand bluevpn to thether from my N910:59
alteregoI recommend Juice SSH10:59
alteregoI hope it works with Sailfish, it's quite a nice app.11:00
Morpog_PCnot sure why I should ssh from nexus 7 to another device11:00
alteregoIf you know any kids "Light Bot" is quite an addictive game which teaches people basic programming skills :)11:00
Morpog_PCVKB typing kills me on N711:01
alteregoI've become quite a diva at Vim on the N7 ;)11:01
Morpog_PCwell, I'm sure it would teach me some stuff as well :)11:01
locusfhow much better is juice vs connectbot?11:01
alteregolocusf: I've not used Connect Bot to compare.11:02
locusfok11:02
alteregoThe free version of Juice is limited in that you can't setup port forwards. Also no cut&paste is annoting11:02
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locusfwow11:03
locusfthats quite limited11:03
locusfconnectbot has both in the free version + mosh support11:03
locusfbut thats separate11:04
alteregoBut I like the connection management.11:04
locusfand it has gestures in irssi11:04
alteregoJuice has Mosh support too, even in free version11:04
locusfmosh is one of those software which have the "I wish I had used this before" effect :)11:05
alteregoBasically all of my software projects have named screen sessions running on a server. This includes, notes, editors, etc. Relating to a specific thing. So from bed or if I'm out and have an idea, it's handy to login to the server, get the project screen session and add some notes, or maybe fix a small bug or something.11:07
alteregoI do it quite a lot.11:07
alteregoIf I had an Xperia Z, I could even do it from the shower. :p11:09
Morpog_PClol11:10
qwazixMorpog_PC, Hurrian, what about http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ for artwork?11:10
Hurriansure, sounds good.11:12
Morpog_PCyep11:12
qwazixperfect11:12
qwazix(did I forget someone that contributed artwork?)11:13
Morpog_PCfor now not, in future sandy_locke11:13
Hurrianqwazix: isn't all the artwork gonna be redone from scratch?11:14
sandy_lockejust read the license link11:14
sandy_locke(following discussions while working ;) )11:14
sandy_lockeseems good to me11:14
Morpog_PCI'm going to ask realnorth if he is OK if we put his logo under this license11:14
qwazixHurrian, specs and stuff are also part of artwork11:14
Hurrianah11:14
Hurrianoh, yeah, reflashing my N9 atm - had a little accident ;)11:14
qwazixoops :|11:15
Hurrianalso, the newest ubiboot seems to be broken, but i'll look into that once I get back onto Open Mode.11:15
Morpog_PCqwazix, what do we do about the mer logo?11:17
qwazixwhat about it?11:17
Morpog_PCcan't find a license for it11:17
Morpog_PCshallw e add it to nemo artwork?11:17
Morpog_PCalso it's included in shutdown and boot screens11:18
Morpog_PChttps://github.com/Merproject/artwork11:18
sandy_lockeMorpog_PC, if you didn't do it you should put it in a separate place than the nemo artwork I think11:18
sandy_lockeOr on the same page but with specific comments11:19
Morpog_PCwell, it's included in bottscreens I made11:19
Morpog_PCboot11:19
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sandy_lockeMorpog_PC, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mer_Logo.png11:20
sandy_lockecopyrighted it seems11:20
Stskeepsthat's not entirely true..11:22
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Stskeepsit's  Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported License11:22
Morpog_PCthats just great! :)11:23
sandy_lockeyup, Stskeeps11:23
qwazixMorpog_PC, http://wiki.maemo.org/File:Mer_logo_svg.svg11:23
sandy_lockeper this page : merproject.org11:24
sandy_lockeThis work is licensed under CC-BY-SA.11:24
qwazixsorry http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Artwork11:24
sandy_lockehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/11:24
Morpog_PCaaah there11:24
Morpog_PCso I'm gonna add it to nemo-artwork repo and add the license11:25
qwazixok11:30
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locusfhow do I check wether a point exists in a certain component?14:30
locusfhmm probably keyboard.childAt(mouse.x, mouse.y) == trackpad14:32
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faenillocusf, or trackpad.contains(point)14:33
faenilwhere point is in local coordinates14:33
faenilso you may need mapTo/FromItem14:33
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locusfah14:36
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locusfhmm a problem, dragging down causes the keyboard to close14:40
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faenillocusf, eheheh14:49
locusfand I can't get my debug statements to show :/14:50
locusffrom maliit qml that is14:50
faenillocusf, try MALIIT_DEBUG=true env var14:51
faenilor something like that14:51
faenilit uses a custom handler for dbg messages iirc14:51
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locusfok I can move the cursor now15:03
qwazix\o/15:04
locusfbut it doesn't make much sens15:06
locusf+e15:06
locusfits just in relation to the rest of the keyboard15:06
locusfI have yet to propagate to below mousearea15:06
locusfbut the concept works15:07
qwazix:nod:15:07
faenillocusf, did the env var work?15:08
locusffaenil: no15:08
faenillocusf, :O15:08
faenilit must work15:08
locusfI even put it to systemd Environment15:09
locusfbut no difference15:09
locusfand I can't see the var in framework15:09
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faenillocusf, 1 https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/maliit-framework/blob/48cc17e02714ca1af41507d2dca8947b268ab935/maliit-framework/passthroughserver/main.cpp#L4315:14
faeniland15:14
locusffaenil: yeah I used * in grep15:14
locusfwhich didn't work and wasn't necessary15:14
faenilok15:14
locusfbut still, no effect15:15
faenilthat env var has to work15:15
faenilhave you rebooted?15:15
faenilor restarted maliit-server15:15
locusfno, just restarted maliit-server service15:15
faenilvery strange, have you tried echoing the env var in fingerterm15:16
faenilI used debug when I was fixing maliit on wayland15:16
locusfindeed15:17
locusfhmm now the inner mousearea works15:21
locusfbut it only goes left :/15:21
locusfok now it works as expected15:25
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locusfit has built-in acceleration15:26
locusfthough its VERY sensitive15:26
qwazixany way to tone it down?15:28
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locusfhttps://github.com/locusf/plugins/commit/47baa2923ca5b1445d1dc27d497172700f563ad0 <- this is pretty much how its done15:30
locusfit probably boils down to increasing the * 0.2 values15:30
locusfanybody wanna test this?15:31
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qwazixI still have to set up my N950 to use wayland...15:33
locusfok removed the coefficients, its definately slower now15:36
locusffaenil: do you have time to try it out?15:39
faenillocusf, later? I'm still working on page atm15:39
locusffaenil: sure15:40
locusfI'll put it to dropbox now15:40
faenillocusf, if you give me the package I will test right now ;)15:40
faenilok15:40
locusfhttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/286182/maliit-plugins-0.99.0-1.armv7hl.rpm15:40
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sledgesahoj! \o15:44
locusfhey sledges15:44
sledgesnothing like having dinner and reading backlog :)15:44
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sledgeslocusf: any latest n9-950 wayland images? ;)15:46
locusfsledges: not right now, do you want one?15:46
sledgesyes, im about to build one anyway15:47
sledgeswant to work on patterns a bit15:47
qwazixis this still applicable https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation/N9-N950/Wayland ?15:47
locusfquite old image15:47
sledgesqwazix: no, there's a kickstart file now15:47
locusffrom august15:47
qwazixsledges, because I already have nemo installed, I was hoping I wouln't need to start from scratch15:48
locusfhmm again, its been 2 weeks since last image15:48
locusfqwazix: do you want bleeding edge?15:49
qwazixlocusf, yep15:49
sledgesqwazix: you will need to reflash, but with `sudo rsync -rlpgo --delete unpacked-nemo-wayland-image/ /run/media/username/Alt_OS/` it's least intrusive15:49
qwazixsledges, :nod:15:50
locusfI've got an image from 28.9.201315:51
sledgesyes please locusf15:51
* sledges will flash n9 finally soon!!! \o/15:52
qwazixhttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/qptxygocugtozk1/nemo-n950-rnd-20130928.tar.bz215:52
locusfyes thats it15:53
qwazixis there a reason not to flash moslo on the N9? The wiki is being vague15:53
locusfI'm making one now, upload takes about 20-30 mins15:53
qwazixlocusf, I'll wait15:53
locusfhmm I've got 5 PR's open15:54
locusfdo you guys want opensans as well?15:54
locusffor lipstick-colorful-home and qt-components?15:54
locusfah you need the fonts too from faenils repo15:55
locusfso lets forget that15:55
sledgesi'll push opensans in soon, need to set priorities :D15:55
locusfsledges: good15:56
locusffixed them PR's to be saner, no need for QFontDatabase now16:00
sledgeslocusf: sadly i haven't got permissions to nemomobile-packages16:09
sledgesso we'll have to wait for w00t16:09
locusfokay16:09
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sledgesi could push package to nemo:ux from faenil's repo16:10
locusfget it while its hot: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/l6bl3uiv85pw2kc/nemo-n950-rnd-20131310.tar.bz216:11
sledgesand if some packaging is wrong,we'll readjust it, and for now we could close one eye ;)16:12
faenilsorry, family call :)16:15
locusfupdated wiki page too16:17
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faenillocusf, kind of works ;)16:18
locusfyep, kinda is close enough for now :)16:19
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faenillocusf, I noticed it keeps going back even if I've changed direction to forward16:19
faenilalso, it's way too fast :D16:20
locusffaenil: yeah noticed that too16:23
locusfyou should have seen how fast with * 0.216:23
faenillocusf, but it's nice to see it working, I like the concept :)16:23
faeniland that damn cursor flashes so it's hard to keep track of it..16:26
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faenilawesome to see iekku back on stage \o/ Nemo bug triage tomorrow!16:38
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iekku:)16:44
locusffaenil: me too, I'm adding some additional circles to help the user determine if he/she is going right or left or up or down16:45
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faenilfreaking orientation, pagestack, pages, whatever :D16:55
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Morpog_MobileWasn`t it you who praised the joy of developing components faenil? :D17:01
faenilMorpog_Mobile, it's lots of fun, it just takes time :D17:02
faeniland patience :D17:02
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qwazixfaenil, is the fn key (diagonal arrow) on N950 keyboard supposed to work on wayland image?17:07
faenilof course not :)17:07
zbenjamini think my n9 just died ....17:07
faenilah, do you want to write all the key mappings for that? :D17:07
faenilzbenjamin, woot :(17:08
faenilzbenjamin, don't worry, you can't kill it, what's the problem :)17:08
zbenjaminnot reacting, maybe its empty but it was on USB all the time ...17:08
qwazixfaenil, where should those be?17:08
faenilqwazix, I was about to take of that but it was boring so I left it like it is :P you have to take keymappings from x11 n950 configs and using a binary which converts those to qpm (or something like that) which is the format used in our case17:09
faeniland there was a middle step in which you had to convert it to another format before qpm...17:09
faenilbut I don't remember17:09
faenilbut anyway, the thing is: take x11 keymappings and convert those to the format we're using right now :)17:10
faenilqwazix, then there is an env var which Qt reads, and you set the path of the converted file in that env var17:11
zbenjaminwtf it just came back out of nothing.... i swear screen was black all the time, no bootscreen, next time i'll try ssh first :/17:11
qwazixfaenil, :nod:17:11
qwazixalso I can't click the wifi switch17:12
qwazixah yeah,17:12
qwazixafter enough poking I made it17:12
qwazixthe vkb animation is painfully slow...17:13
faenillike that? ;)17:13
faenilwelcome to our world :D17:13
zbenjaminfaenil: shouldn't you be studying? ;)17:13
* faenil giggles17:13
locusfI should be too but Nemo is too much fun17:15
faenilzbenjamin, see? ^17:16
* faenil highfives locusf 17:16
* locusf highfives faenil back17:16
faenilqwazix, ah, found it finally17:17
faenilqwazix, so do you want to fix keyboard?17:17
qwazixI can try17:18
locusffaenil: I've got it slowed down with a timer17:18
faenilqwazix, I think more or less all you need is here QT_QPA_EVDEV_KEYBOARD_PARAMETERS17:18
faenilqwazix, and this http://qt-project.org/forums/viewthread/1991217:19
faeniland some more from google, once you know the env var :)17:19
qwazixfingerterm rotates17:19
qwazixconstantly :P17:19
faenilqwazix, constantly? XD17:20
qwazixyeah, it just rotates by itself (or it is too sensitive)17:20
faenilqwazix, ouch17:20
qwazix(and lags at that :(   )17:21
faenilqwazix, yeah well performance is bad17:22
faenilqwazix, w00t suggested using apitrace to see what's going wrong there17:22
faenilqwazix, also, what you're seeing now is definitely better than what it was like 2-3weeks ago17:22
faenilI guess optimizations made by sailors helped that17:23
faenilas a sideeffect17:23
Morpog_MobileStrange, on vm it's very fast17:23
faenilMorpog_Mobile, eh :P17:23
qwazix:'-( I want my X11 back17:24
faenilcore i5 under your bottom?17:24
faenilqwazix, stop acting like a girl, we need men here! :P17:24
Morpog_MobileYep :)17:24
faenilhelp us get x11 performance back! :P17:24
qwazixlol17:24
faenilStskeeps could help as well :P17:24
faenilqwazix, but yeah, I can see in your eyes the old faenil who thought moving to wayland would have brought better performance for free :(17:26
qwazix:nod:17:26
qwazixat least not so much worst17:27
qwazixbtw, how do I install locusf's maliit?17:27
qwazixrpm says conflicts17:27
faenilzypper install --force URL17:27
Morpog_MobileO was still under that impfession, damn i5 tricked me17:27
qwazixcan URL be local?17:28
faenilqwazix, sure17:28
faenilqwazix, anyway, no fingerterm rotation issue here, let me know if you can reproduce it17:28
qwazixty17:28
faenilnp17:28
qwazixyeah every time I open the keyboard, fingerterm rotates to portrait17:29
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faenilopen the keyboard?17:29
qwazixthe hardware keyboard17:29
faenilahhhh17:29
qwazixI think that when the device is horizontal  (as in lying on the table) it thinks it should rotate to portrait17:30
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faenilyes I was about to write the same17:31
qwazixso when using the keyboard the device is almost horisontal but not really so it constantly changes orientation17:31
faenilzbenjamin may know why ;)17:31
faenilqwazix, yeah17:31
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qwazixhow do I restart maliit?17:32
faenilsu17:32
faenilsystemctl restart maliit-server.service17:32
faenilmaybe systemctl-user, try it if first fails17:32
qwazixnah, failed to load (both server and user)17:33
qwazixI'll reboot17:34
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locusfqwazix: DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/100000/dbus/user_bus_socket systemctl --user restart maliit-server.service17:35
faenilfailed to laod isn't a good sign, but okay17:35
faenilah ok, yeah17:35
faenilfreaking dbus address if you're doing it from SSH17:35
qwazixlocusf, thanks but already rebooted17:37
qwazixlooks good. We still need to make it recognize taps, and only move the cursor if it's a swipe.17:38
qwazixAnd like faenil said, it's too fast17:38
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faenilrecognize taps?17:38
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qwazixfaenil, I didn't say it correctly17:39
qwazixthe trackpoint must not interfere with taps17:39
qwazixonly if a swipe is started over it it should start doing it's thing17:39
faeniland now it doesn't17:40
faenil?17:40
qwazixI think it doesn't. We have to make the area a bit bigger and then it'll be clear17:41
qwazixalso, that left right thing is because we're comparing with the starting position and not with the previous one17:41
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qwazixIf you start going the other direction, even if you are on the left of the trackpoint it should go right.17:42
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locusfah so thats it !17:45
locusfnow the other thing is to make it happen in QML17:47
locusfqwazix: I can give you the slower version rpm too17:47
qwazixlocusf, please do17:48
locusfqwazix: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/286182/maliit-plugins-0.99.0-1.armv7hl.rpm17:48
locusfthe same url essentially :)17:48
locusfI'll also make it larger17:49
qwazixat least the real keyboard is now fully lit (there's an improvement)17:50
locusfhmm that didn't work at all, the previous setting of X + y17:55
qwazixit might be too close17:55
qwazixmaybe you can wait until you get a difference of say 20pixels and then trigger the keypress17:56
zbenjamini know what?17:57
qwazixso that when the user does not move his finger, the cursor stays put17:57
qwazixzbenjamin, when device is flat, it thinks it should go to portrait17:57
qwazix(flat as lying on a table)17:57
qwazixso it's impossible to use N950 with keyboard open17:58
zbenjaminqwazix: because then its setting PrimaryOrientation17:58
locusfqwazix: do you want the bigger version too?17:58
zbenjaminand PrimaryOrientation seems to be portrait then ;)17:59
zbenjaminmaybe opening the hardware keyboard should force landscape17:59
qwazixlocusf, yep18:01
sledgesMorpog_Mobile: commented on your PR18:01
locusfqwazix: same url18:01
qwazixzbenjamin, yep too18:01
qwazixok18:01
zbenjaminfaenil: does the lipstick desktop have its own rotation handling?18:02
zbenjaminor is it using components?18:02
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faenilzbenjamin, we already talked about this :P told you that I don't know if it has something special18:03
faenilit uses qtcomponents so it should behave as qtcomponents apps18:03
faenilbut I don't know if the fact that it has a special window in compositor affects that18:03
faenilthis said, bbl people18:03
zbenjaminah yes i assumed it does not get the event18:03
locusfbye faenil18:04
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zbenjaminsorry ;)18:04
zbenjamincya18:04
faenilcould be that those special compositor window don't get the event18:04
sledgesciao18:04
faenilI don't know, try asking sailors tomorrow ;)18:04
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faenilbbl18:04
specialthe compositor doesn't have a window.18:04
specialit exists above the concept of windows18:04
faenilspecial, the homescreen I meants18:04
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faenilspecial, it has direct rendering etc18:04
specialat least, windows in the wayland sense18:04
faenilspecial, isn't homescreen's window special?18:05
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faenilanyway gtg, bbl18:05
specialif by "window" we mean QQuickWindow, the homescreen's is an eglfs window; for everything else, it's a wayland window18:05
faenilspecial, yes, so that could be a reason why it doesn't rotate like normal qtcomponents apps18:06
specialso if you're expecting a wayland event telling you the orientation, you won't get it18:06
qwazixlocusf, I think we need bigger touch area without bigger nipple (might need an additional transparent element there)18:06
faenilthat was my reasoning18:06
faenilspecial, ok great, zbenjamin18:06
Morpog_PCsledges, those tags? how do I know them?18:06
faenilspecial, so how are we suppsed to rotate that :(18:06
speciallipstick sends the orientation events to other windows?18:06
faenilyes18:07
locusfqwazix: ok18:07
faenilnormal apps rotates (now)18:07
faenilafter you setUpdateOrientationMask18:07
specialhave it specially signal it to the homescreen/compositor as well18:07
faenilok,special handling18:07
faenilzbenjamin, ^18:07
faenilreally gtg, bbl18:07
faenilthanks special :)18:07
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sledgesmorpog, put anything you like18:12
Morpog_PCsledges, hope that was right18:12
sledgesMorpog_PC: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Development#Changelogs18:13
sledgesMorpog_PC: now time has gone and you had to re-merge18:14
sledgesbut that creates more commits18:14
Morpog_PCso that was ok?18:15
sledgeswell I'd rather you rebase them on top18:16
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sledgesand have 1 commit in PR18:16
sledges(especially now it's only one word change)18:16
Morpog_PCso revert both commits18:16
Morpog_PC?18:16
sledgesyes please18:16
sledgesand re-push anew18:16
sledgesuse the --force :)18:17
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NeeDforKillhi guys18:21
sledgesheya!18:21
NeeDforKillhow it's gone guys18:24
sledgesfast :) (the weekend)18:25
locusfall good, new image and maliit trackpoint done18:25
Morpog_PCwtf, I must be too dumb sledges18:26
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sledges:)) Morpog_PC you'd be surprised how long i've (still) been suffering with git trickeries18:26
NeeDforKilllove u locusf with ur images :D18:27
locusflol18:27
NeeDforKillno homo :D18:27
NeeDforKillso for wayland image zypper working?18:28
locusf?18:28
locusfzypper duo?18:29
locusf*dup18:29
NeeDforKilli mean possible to update this nemo image18:29
NeeDforKillvia zypper dup18:29
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locusfyes18:33
sledgesNeeDforKill: https://twitter.com/faenil/status/38502493072460595218:33
Morpog_PCsledges, I think I mastered it :)18:33
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* qwazix waves18:36
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sledgesyes you did! \o/18:37
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Morpog_PCyeah!18:38
sledgesMorpog_PC: still not good :D and that's my fault I overlooked it18:41
sledgesit has to go to the qt5 branch18:41
sledgesrePR please :D18:41
Morpog_PCrevert?18:41
sledgesgit checkout qt518:42
sledgesand just make a new commit/PR18:42
sledgescan't be reverted anymore :)18:42
Morpog_PChmm, so no fix for it?18:42
Morpog_PCor we just ignore old Qt4 branch? :)18:43
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sledgesthe old qt branch i will revert myself18:44
sledges(clean up the mess :D)18:44
sledgesand you push into qt518:45
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Morpog_PCok done18:51
Morpog_PCso did locusf and giucam also PR to wrong branch?18:52
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Morpog_PCjust out of interes18:52
Morpog_PCt18:52
sledgesMorpog_PC: nope: locusf wants to merge 1 commit into nemomobile:qt5  from locusf:qt518:54
Morpog_PCstrange that website doesn't shot it18:54
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sledgeshttps://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick-colorful-home/pull/2618:54
Morpog_PConly on my PR it shows the Qt5 branch18:54
Morpog_PCah tehre it's shown18:55
Morpog_PCstrange18:55
Morpog_PCgithub eats my brain18:56
faenilback18:56
Morpog_PCthx for merging sledges and your patience ;)18:57
sledgesnp, we all improve bit by bit everytime18:58
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NeeDforKillhey faenil19:04
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faenilNeeDforKill, hey19:04
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NeeDforKillwhat now working in nemo wayland19:18
faenillocusf added a preliminary version of trackpad to move cursor in text boxes19:19
NeeDforKilli mean19:24
NeeDforKillcall,sms,ringtones,wifi?19:25
Morpog_Mobile_Check nemo wiki19:25
NeeDforKillu need update wiki19:26
* sledges rushes to update orientation from N to Y (not 100% :D))19:26
NeeDforKillSMS Partial Maliit is broken so sending is difficult, receiving works ok though.19:26
sledges:D19:26
NeeDforKillso now maliit working19:26
NeeDforKillVoice calls Works Works ok in wayland, both calling and receiving calls.19:26
NeeDforKillokay calls19:26
faenilNeeDforKill, flash nemo and help us keep wiki updated ;)19:26
NeeDforKillso how it working, app Dialler19:26
NeeDforKillor i need use terminal19:27
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faenilapp dialer19:27
NeeDforKillniec19:27
NeeDforKillnice&19:27
NeeDforKill*19:27
faenilbut all the apps will be rewritten once components are finished19:27
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faenilthe ui of apps is old right now19:27
NeeDforKilly, glaicer components?19:27
Morpog_Mobile_Ui of everything beside vkb is old19:28
faenilNeeDforKill, yes, glacier19:28
NeeDforKillokay tonight i try to flash nemo19:28
faenilgreat, let us know if we can help you19:28
faeniland don't expect a daily usable system19:28
NeeDforKillyeah19:28
faenilit's slow at the moment, performance is bad, and lots of things are missing19:28
Morpog_Mobile_Use the image from today19:28
faenilsignal, battery indicator, etc19:28
NeeDforKillhttps://www.dropbox.com/s/l6bl3uiv85pw2kc/nemo-n950-rnd-20131310.tar.bz219:29
NeeDforKill?19:29
faenilyes19:29
NeeDforKillokay my old question19:29
NeeDforKillhttps://raw.github.com/ruedigergad/nemo-n9-blobs/master/zImage-kernel-moslo-n919:30
NeeDforKillthis kernel19:30
NeeDforKillif i install on n9 openmode kernel19:30
NeeDforKillthen install this kernel19:30
NeeDforKillload phone take green text19:31
NeeDforKillit try to make dualboot19:31
NeeDforKillthis kernel copy19:31
NeeDforKillopenmode kernel19:31
NeeDforKillhow u guys think19:31
NeeDforKilldualboot will be worki19:31
NeeDforKillwork*19:32
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faenildon't know, can't help with n9, dualboot works on n950 following instructions on wiki19:32
faenilI remember n9 is a bit different regarding dualboot, but I know people have dual boot working19:32
sledgesNeeDforKill: https://github.com/ruedigergad/nemo-n9-blobs/blob/master/README.md19:32
sledgesthat kernel is open mode19:32
sledgesand im about to try ubiboot now19:32
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NeeDforKillfor ubiboot i must change some text19:34
faenilyes19:34
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faenilquiet? :)20:56
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sledgesstill ubibooting21:10
sledgesnothing like spending the sunday night21:11
sledges:D21:11
faenil:)21:11
faenilI'm fighting against binding loops :D21:11
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sledgesas in mount --bind? :D21:21
faenilnope xD21:22
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sledgeshmmmmm21:31
sledgesDevicelock ON: cannot flash unsigned image21:31
sledges(N9)21:32
faenilwoops21:36
sledgeswill need to hunt for the fiasco that matches the one inside i guess21:40
sledgesbut how to telÅÅl which one?21:40
sledges(orig n9 from australia, reflashed with european one, now central europe fiasco says device lock bad)21:41
sledgeswill try north europe tomorrow, with extra 2G free on hdd :D21:41
NeeDforKillfaenil21:47
NeeDforKilldo i need21:47
NeeDforKilloriginal instructions?21:47
NeeDforKill ssu rr wayland21:47
NeeDforKill   ssu ur21:47
NeeDforKill zypper ref -f 121:47
NeeDforKill   zypper ref -f 2 # updates both the adaptation repos21:47
NeeDforKill   zypper dup # should offer to upgrade ti-omap3-sgx and install ti-omap3-sgx-wayland-wsegl21:47
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sledgesNeeDforKill: no you don't need them21:57
sledgesjust follow what's on twitter i posted you earlier21:58
NeeDforKillOkay last question pls21:58
NeeDforKillnotification for calls working?21:58
* sledges doesn't know, installing wayland now myself21:58
NeeDforKillthank u21:59
NeeDforKillsorry for my questions21:59
sledgesthere are no sorry questions ;) don't worry22:00
sledgesok, booting wayland now ;)22:01
NeeDforKillcheck for me pls call natification22:01
sledgesok22:02
sledgesNeeDforKill:22:04
sledgesthere is ringtone22:04
sledgesand vibra22:05
sledgesand yes22:05
Morpog_MobileUpdate wiki? :D22:05
sledgesthere is notification about missed call22:05
sledgesbut22:07
sledgesspeakers are mute :D22:07
NeeDforKillso we can't talk22:08
NeeDforKill?22:08
sledgesi couldn't22:08
sledgesneed to wait for speakers' fix22:08
sledgesto be able to talk22:08
NeeDforKillokay thank u22:08
NeeDforKillmb tonight making ubiboot22:08
sledgesbut since it's a smartphone, it's not so important :D22:08
Morpog_MobileI thought that worked already22:09
sledgesMorpog_Mobile: regression?22:09
Morpog_MobileHmm22:09
sledgesalso i fried my earpiece :( but mic still works in harmattan (not in nemo wayland though)22:09
Morpog_MobileAh, so earpiece maybe works22:09
sledgesyea well ;)22:10
Morpog_Mobilesledges get a new housing, it's included22:10
NeeDforKillso how much guys working on nemo?22:10
Morpog_MobileDepends on area22:11
sledgesMorpog_Mobile: housing?22:11
Morpog_MobileN9 housing22:11
sledgesearpiece is on mb22:12
NeeDforKillneed install vmware22:12
Morpog_MobileSure?22:12
sledgesyes22:12
NeeDforKillor virtual box better?22:12
sledgesand i fried even more than that22:12
sledgesas headphones also don't work22:12
Morpog_MobileWait a sec, got 2 housings in my desk22:12
sledgesi got one in a box22:12
sledgesearpiece is under cutout shaped __ and is above nokia logo22:13
sledgesis on mb22:13
Morpog_MobileYes you are right22:14
sledgesi pointed the heatgun to reflow the new usb port, and apparently fried audio components22:14
Morpog_MobileSpeaker was on housing22:14
sledgesor shorted them during first experiments only with soldering iron ;)22:14
sledgesbut we will never have 100% audio quality on n9 nemo iirc as opposed to harmattan's closed Nokia/OMAP audio driver blobs22:15
sledgesso will be using the phone for UX wayland tests22:15
Morpog_MobileReal target will be our jolla on sd card :)22:16
sledgesyup22:16
Morpog_MobileAnd maybe my n7 sometime22:17
NeeDforKillwhat u mean 100% audio quality22:17
NeeDforKillwhen u speak22:17
NeeDforKillor sound?22:17
NeeDforKillmic*22:18
NeeDforKillin nitdroid only mic not working22:18
NeeDforKillvolume good quality good22:18
sledgescan't remember correctly, but nemo always was inferior to phonecall talk quality22:18
sledgesharmattan had it tweaked right22:19
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NeeDforKillso why u can't take it from n9tweaker22:20
NeeDforKillfrom audio boost22:20
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sledgesit had it tweaked through low level closed source drivers22:30
sledgeswhich are not available in nemo22:30
sledgesit wasn't about only volume levels22:30
sledgesthat's all i remember22:30
sledgesSage: ^ ? ;)22:31
sledgesi could be wrong, and i hope it's simply-tweakable, but never know until you try22:32
sledgesi remember it as of the time of writing X11 status (long long time ago) so https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Status/Matrix22:33
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sledgesnite22:56
faenilsledges, nite23:01
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