Wednesday, 2013-10-16

faenilat least that's the QPA platform I've always used in env vars00:00
specialk, then it's the one inside qt00:03
faenilwhich doesn't have any orientation handling from what you can see in the sources00:03
specialit would be perfectly fine to just circumvent the platform plugin and QScreen and go directly to PageStackWindow, imo.00:04
special(this was my option 1 from above)00:04
faenilspecial, ok, let's use qml sensors for the homescreen then00:05
faeniland we're set00:05
zbenjaminnot possible PageStackWindow uses screen directly00:05
zbenjaminstate: screen.orientationString <<00:05
faenilzbenjamin, well, we have pagestackwindow sources ;) and we're the upstream I think atm00:06
faenilstate: useQmlSensors ? sensorsString : screen.orientationString00:06
zbenjaminthats too easy ;)00:06
faenilthen do it ;) I'm going to bed, lol :D00:06
mikhasman I do hate if state handling leaks to the QML layer …00:09
faenilgo tell that to qtcomponents guys :)00:10
mikhasI did00:10
zbenjaminso why don't we uses the other plugin that does support rotation btw?00:11
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specialI think it's a work in progress related to direct rendering support.00:13
faenilzbenjamin, it's been work in progress for a few months now00:16
faenildon't know the real status of the thing :)00:16
zbenjaminah ok00:16
faenilsrsly, I'm going xD00:17
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zbenjaminif i could use QScreenPrivate, i could do it without hacking qt-components00:24
zbenjaminhmpf the whole path to set this property is private ...00:27
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zbenjaminspecial: are properties defined in qml dynamic properties in the QObject01:01
specialyou can access them as if they are, at least01:02
chriadamzbenjamin: not quite.  the object declaration in QML is also an implicit type declaration, if it contains new property declarations (including function properties).  The QML engine builds up type information for the implicit type (in a structure called the QQmlPropertyCache in the source code, but it is better thought of as QQmlTypeMetaObject)01:25
chriadamso resolutions of the property later don't just hit the normal qobject dynamic property path - instead, we store internally the property and method offsets, in the property cache structure01:26
chriadambut, yes, eventually, they'll just be stored as dynamic QObject properties.01:27
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chriadamhrm, actually, that last bit might not be true - we hook the metaobject lookup stuff, and I don't remember which data structure they're actually stored in.  QQmlVMEMetaObject perhaps.01:28
chriadambut yes, you can access those properties using the dynamic property accessors01:28
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locusfah mikhas is gone :/03:52
locusfI addressed the issues in the PR now, didn't even notice until now03:52
locusfpvuorela: do you guys want the landscape version too, couldn't test it a month ago but can now?03:53
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zbenjaminchriadam: ok thank you05:09
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locusfmorning zbenjamin05:13
zbenjaminlocusf: morning05:13
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fk_lxniqt: morning07:03
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zbenjaminfaenil: guess what08:15
faenilu're dead08:15
faenildead as humans can be08:16
zbenjaminerm not exactly ;)08:16
faenilsorry, quote from eminem's song :)08:16
zbenjamindesktop rotates ;)08:16
zbenjaminwithout qt-components hacking08:16
faenilno hacking at all, or no qtcomps hacking? :D08:17
faenilzbenjamin, awesome08:19
zbenjaminnow i just need to clean it up, next patch almost ready08:20
faenilzbenjamin, great :)08:21
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zbenjaminfaenil: the StatusBar qml type has no orientation property but it is set from PageStackWindow. So the status messages are not rotated for now08:26
faenilwhy doesn't it rotate if psw does?08:27
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zbenjaminbecause StatusBar has no rotation handling code it seems08:28
faenilzbenjamin, let me understand, does scree.orientationString change now?08:29
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zbenjaminfaenil: yep, QScreen now works08:42
faenilzbenjamin, so I don't see why the rest shouldn't08:42
zbenjaminfaenil: because StatusBar is a Rectangle and not a Item08:43
zbenjamini gues08:43
faenilwait a moment, we currently have no status bar08:44
zbenjaminah wait a second ;)08:45
zbenjamini meant the status messages08:45
zbenjaminnot the statusBar08:45
zbenjamini was looking in the wrong place08:45
zbenjaminthe Charge Battery message for example08:45
zbenjaminor sdk mode in use, still landscape08:45
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zbenjaminfaenil: pull request done ;)08:56
faenilzbenjamin, fixed notifications?08:56
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zbenjaminnope thats another bug09:01
faenilzbenjamin, hint09:02
zbenjaminalso the lockscreen swipe does sometimes not correctly work in portrait09:02
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zbenjaminfaenil: it still uses orientationAngleContextProperty09:06
faenilzbenjamin, it may receive oriientation changes but it does nothing with it09:10
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zbenjamincurrently reading it09:10
zbenjaminfaenil: when orientation changes, height and width should swap automatically right?09:10
faenillook at the logic inside mouseare09:11
faenilyou also have to rotate the content, swapping width/height will just change its size09:11
zbenjamincurrently looking at the lockscreen .. it seems to me the swipe stops after it reaches landscape height09:12
faenilyeah it's all placeholder code, nothing tested, nothing supposed to work in portrait ;)09:14
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zbenjaminfaenil: do you know if angle should be 0 for portrait or for landscape orientation09:32
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faenilzbenjamin, sorry was helping a friend of mine fix his bicycle11:02
zbenjaminno prob11:02
faenilzbenjamin, it depends on fb orientation11:03
faenilon n950/n9 angle 0 is landscape11:03
faenilon other devices it could be portrait11:03
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zbenjaminso landscape is the primaryorientation?11:03
faenilyes, on n9/n95011:03
faenilbut not on other devices11:03
zbenjamini see , is there a way to find out in qml?11:05
zbenjamini mean what the primaryOrientation should be#11:05
faenilwell, you could check screen.width and screen.height11:06
zbenjaminah they don't change on rotation?11:07
faenilanyway fyi, I was told that in future the compositor will handle that, so we'll always get portrait orientation on client side as default one11:07
faenilzbenjamin, nope, shouldn't11:07
faenilin qtquick2 you can use Screen.primaryOrientation11:07
zbenjaminwayland clients and our compisitor have different primary orientations btw11:07
faenilah right we're already in qq2, lol11:08
faenilzbenjamin, you can import QtQuick.Window 2.011:08
faeniland use Screen.primaryOrientation to know that11:08
zbenjaminisn't Screen.primaryOrientation just a enum value?11:08
sledgesfaenil: then we need to adjust mask on too (if w00t confirms PrimaryOrientation as redundant)11:08
zbenjaminah nice11:08
faenilsledges, primartyOrientation should just be used when accessing primaryOrientation as I see it11:09
faenilit doesn't have a meaning anywhere else from what I could see11:09
faenilzbenjamin, yes it is, so?11:09
faenilisn't that what you want?11:09
sledgesthe mask is to tell what orientations we want+can provide11:10
zbenjaminfaenil: doesn'T matter ;) docs already told me what i want to know11:10
faenilsledges, yes, but Qt::PrimaryOrientation isn't an orientation, I think it's just used when asking for the orientation value11:10
faenilyou ask what's the Qt::PrimaryOrientation? and it returns Qt::LandscapeOrientation11:11
sledgeswhich is [inverted] portraid and/or landscape11:11
faenilzbenjamin, there is angleBetween11:11
faenilthat's what you should use11:11
sledgesfaenil: yes11:11
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faenilangleBetween(Screen.primaryOrientation, currentOrientation)11:11
faenilzbenjamin, ^11:12
zbenjaminah ok11:12
faenilsledges, also, Qt::PrimaryOrientation is value 0, so that confirms the fact that we won't need it, as it won't even change the mask, so there's no chance it is considered in the setOrientationUpdateMask ;)11:13
sledgeslol yes11:13
faenilI learned all this while coding components ofc :D11:13
faenilbbl guys, will be back in 2-3h11:15
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NeeDforKillhi all11:27
NeeDforKillVirtual stream for call volume handling ?11:27
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NeeDforKilli look updates on github11:57
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sandy_lockeqwazix, you here ?13:02
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KhertanAtworkHello !14:33
KhertanAtworkthp, <<< that s a wip, but in the good way i need to write a real path finder in the qresources, be able to import py[c|o] will be interesting too14:35
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KhertanAtworknot sure if i should put it in the pyotherside module and import it in QPython at __init__ time14:36
KhertanAtworkor create an other module14:36
fk_lxhello all14:36
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locusfhey fk_lx14:41
fk_lxlocusf: hi14:43
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ArcherN9been a month since I set up my nemo image on vbox16:32
ArcherN9Now I don't remember anything >_<16:33
ArcherN9how to set up.. how to what. .. ARGH!16:33
ArcherN9On that only..16:40
ArcherN9helped remind me stuff,16:40
ArcherN9Continuing setup of image on vbox.16:41
ArcherN9ran into /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup error :P16:41
ArcherN9fixing it now.16:41
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sledgespractice makes perfect ;)17:00
ArcherN9@sledges Oh yes!17:07
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juicemeqwazix, ping18:11
juicemeqwazix, re ubibot instructions... yes I know the README sucks big time :)18:11
juicemeshould do something about it really but... there's never time to tidy up documentatation18:12
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sledgesjuiceme: i just loaded ubiboot kernel into memory, and got all partitions exported \o/18:23
sledgessaved my day :)18:23
sledges(thanks to Jonni for the hint)18:23
sledgesbacked up all partitions, now time for complete reflash18:23
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Morpog_PCqwazix, that texteditor icon looks weird18:37
juicemesledges, :)18:38
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qwazixjuiceme, I usually don't fret about big readme files, it's just I didn't really _need_ to do it, as I had N950 already set up for nemo18:46
qwazixMorpog_PC, maybe you don't have the font?18:46
qwazixit's OCR_B if I remember correctly18:46
Morpog_PCthat could be well :)18:46
Morpog_PCthat one?
juicemeqwazix, yes i gathered so much... was just reading backlog of the channel and it caught my eye :)18:47
Morpog_PCqwazix, I did a screenshot icon and pinquerry icon, you can review it in backlog18:48
qwazixMorpog_PC, not absolutely sure let me check18:48
qwazixMorpog_PC, yeah I like them18:48
qwazixMorpog_PC, do you have the link handy (backlog is on work PC)18:49
Morpog_PCyes, it was that fontz, looks no more weird now :)18:49
qwazixthis is the right font18:50
qwazixthe other one didn't look rounded enough18:50
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Morpog_PCis tehre a reason why only icons in SVG are used by homescreen?19:09
Morpog_PCtried to set a PNG, but got only a blank icon19:10
sandy_lockehi guys19:10
sandy_lockejust a first draft, nothing amazing here19:10
sandy_lockebut wanna know if it can be interesting to go further19:11
Morpog_PChow to play that on non iOS?19:11
sandy_lockeif anyone want to try it, you need apptaster for iphone (or ipad, but still iphone 3,5" screen)19:12
sandy_lockeno way Morpog_PC , sorry19:12
Morpog_PCqwazix, shall I push the separated icons to nemoux again or to nemo-artwork?19:12
sandy_lockethe best I can do is export a pdf with all the screens and connexions, which is not very interesting19:13
Morpog_PCok then nevermind :)19:13
sandy_lockeMorpog_PC: nemoux ? because I use this repo to sync with github19:13
Morpog_PCsandy_locke, that one?
sandy_lockewhere is the nemo-artwork repo btw ?19:14
sandy_lockeyes Morpog_PC19:14
qwazixMorpog_PC, push to nemo-artwork better I think, nemoux is a mess19:14
Morpog_PCit's realtively new19:14
sandy_lockeI'll sync nemo-artwork then, thx Morpog_PC19:15
Morpog_PCshould be pulled into nemomobile sooner or later19:15
qwazixsandy_locke, I forgot the iPod at work, I'll see it tomorrow19:16
sandy_lockenp qwazix19:16
Morpog_PCsandy_locke, our components stuff is here (I think you know that already)
sandy_lockeyeah, I'm in sync with it already19:16
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Morpog_PCpushed icons to nemo-artwork19:22
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sandy_lockethx Morpog_PC19:26
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Morpog_PCgallery icon looks strange on device, seems to be a SVG render error there.19:46
Morpog_PCpushed dialer icon fix19:47
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qwazixMorpog_PC, terminal "greater than" icon also has wrong font21:31
qwazix(also ocr-b)21:32
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Morpog_PCqwazix, I remade the the flower pic in galler in vector, not 100% same, but not that bad21:40
Morpog_PConly SVG icons seem to work atm at launcher unfortunately21:44
Morpog_PCpushed terminal icon fix21:45
qwazixMorpog_PC, can't spot the difference21:46
qwazixI'm not sure "unfortunately" is a good word :P21:47
Morpog_PCoriginal looks like that:
qwazixMorpog_PC, the only noticeable difference is the gradient of the flower, could be a bit more orange and centered at the nucleus21:48
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Morpog_PCqwazix, better?
qwazixyep, much better. I'm nitpicking now, but I have one more minor suggestion: move the left cloud away from the petals, to increase the visibility of the flower's shape.21:58
qwazixjust a nudge to the left21:58
zbenjaminlol now my notification windows are turned upside down in portrait21:58
qwazixzbenjamin, patent it!21:59
zbenjaminyeah and make lots of money!!!!21:59
qwazix"A method to ease reading of notifications while taking the phone slightly out of pocket"21:59
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qwazixMorpog_PC, yep, perfect22:02
qwazixwe should test the homescreen on device and see if svg really has an impact on performance22:03
qwazixbecause if not, svg icons are much more versatile22:03
Morpog_PCI'm sure it has22:03
Morpog_PCalso as you can see it can have rendering errors22:04
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qwazixI'm not on the other hand. Symbian has been using svg for icons since 100Mhz cpu's22:05
specialSVG is slow to render, if you're rendering it every time you need it at a given size. If you cache it, not too awful22:06
Morpog_PCmmmh, I'm not sure if symbian is a good example for fluid and smooth rendering22:06
specialit's much slower compared to PNG22:06
specialbut even rendering every icon on a homescreen would take a very significant amount of time22:06
qwazixspecial, :nod:22:06
Morpog_PCwhy does nemo homescreen then do it that way? :D22:06
qwazixwe'll have to convert then, sadly22:06
specialone curious idea someone had at some point was to package SVGs and convert them at build time or even install time22:07
specialso you can get them at exactly the size you need for a given configuration22:07
Morpog_PCand that never worked out why?22:08
Morpog_PCI'm interested as we want to go the same way :D22:09
sledgesyes, i remember we talked about this22:14
sledgesPoC is needed, to check installation times22:14
sledgesalso, no PNGs on homescreen might be due to theme provider, I'll take a look when free up22:15
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Morpog_PCwhen you're at it, change icon size to 100x100 from 80x80 please22:16
sledgesit's separate projects, but will have in mind22:17
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sledgeswonder how much we will go for looks of col2 row2:
qwazixpretty much...22:20
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Morpog_PCAre those categories needed?22:20
qwazixI'm still contemplating a nice way to have shadows in the homescreen without having to have two iconsets22:20
qwazixMorpog_PC, the idea is that categories are user configured22:20
Morpog_PCaah, so folder like22:21
Morpog_PCshadows for icons? Not sure if that plays well with rest of flatness22:21
qwazixnot sure either22:22
qwazixbut that screen does not look out-of-place22:22
qwazixand the slight shadow does help distinguish the icons from the background if that is not black22:22
Morpog_PCyeah, that shadows are almost non existent there22:23
Morpog_PCharmattan solutions was just another image behind22:23
qwazixI think we should try with a standard circular shadow like that, under each icon without the sticking-out parts, to see if it looks okay22:23
Morpog_PCor doe some magic with imagemagic22:24
qwazixsome magick22:25
Morpog_PCyep ;)22:25
qwazixback to the categories thing: many people love widgets, but we don't want to put a seperate desktop for them as it breaks magic number 322:25
qwazixso i thought, let's combine the app grid with a widget screen (i.e. allow adding widgets to the app grid somewhat like WP tiles)22:26
Morpog_PCaslong as we have some event feed style thing I think widgets are not needed22:26
qwazixsome things are not fit for the event screen, they are just showing a status22:27
Morpog_PCwould be small widgets then22:27
qwazix(weather, battery)22:27
qwazixand widgets allow for more personalization too22:27
sledgessailfish killed two birds with one stone by turning live tiles into widgets22:28
qwazixanyway, those category lines could well be a kind of widget. Put it wherever you want to organize your homescreen as you like22:28
qwazixsledges, after having used BB10 for a couple of months, I started to hate live covers22:28
qwazixit breaks the intuitive "go back to where I was, visually, without thinking" workflow22:29
sledgeswe'll see what we say after using sailfish for a month or two :D22:29
qwazixyeah of course22:29
sledgescould feel similar22:29
qwazixit's a matter of coloring and arrangement. BB10 covers are so different than the underlying app that you lose it when you minimize it. You have to read the labels22:30
sledges(think wp)22:30
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qwazixwp though has static positions for the widgets, while covers rearrange themselves, and double as multitasking, where you expect to see the screen you just minimized22:39
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sledgesthanks qwazix22:58
sledges:D hi22:58
fk_lxsome people start to work at this hour22:58
sledgesor hobbying around ;P22:58
zbenjaminsledges: hey you could merge my patches ;)23:06
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