Sunday, 2013-10-27

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Sfiet_Konstantindamn, I feel so stupid08:58
Sfiet_KonstantinI cannot connect to my N950 nemo over SSH :/08:59
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fk_lxSfiet_Konstantin: hi09:05
Sfiet_Konstantinhi fk_lx09:06
dm8tbrgood moaning gents09:07
Sfiet_KonstantinN9 surgey09:07
Sfiet_Konstantinrestoring my GF's N909:07
Sfiet_Konstantindisk got corrupted, I have never seen that :/09:07
Sfiet_Konstantineverything lost ...09:07
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StskeepsSfiet_Konstantin: hmm but mydocs is FAT09:25
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Sfiet_KonstantinStskeeps: I don't know09:31
Sfiet_Konstantinboth /home/user/* and mydocs failed09:31
Sfiet_Konstantineven photos were wiped09:32
stephgphotorec should find them all unless something has gone around zeroing blocks09:32
StskeepsSfiet_Konstantin: ouch, mount -o ro too?09:32
StskeepsSfiet_Konstantin: you might have been unlucky and have had one of the n9s that got recalled cos of bad emmc09:33
Sfiet_KonstantinStskeeps: it worked for > 1.5 years09:34
Stskeepsyou'd be surprised how long time those things can take to fail09:34
Sfiet_Konstantinstephg: photorec ?09:34
Sfiet_KonstantinStskeeps: :(09:34
Sfiet_Konstantinstephg: :O09:34
Sfiet_Konstantinis it compiled for the N9 ?09:35
stephgphotorec specifically09:35
StskeepsSfiet_Konstantin: btw: hint of advice - dd_rescue the partition(s)09:35
stephgyou'd need to build it09:35
stephgbut I'd just dd the whole ting09:35
Stskeepsand do the resurrection off device09:35
stephg^what he said09:35
Sfiet_Konstantinstephg: ah09:35
Sfiet_Konstantingood idea09:35
Sfiet_Konstantintried to dd the mmc stuff09:36
Sfiet_Konstantinbut didn't get anything interesting out of them09:36
Stskeepsi saved my brother's photos of his children for 8-9 years that way09:36
Stskeepsexcepting 2-3 ones09:36
StskeepsSfiet_Konstantin: also kpartx -a if you dump the entire mmc09:36
Sfiet_KonstantinStskeeps: do you advice doing this for mydocs ?09:36
StskeepsSfiet_Konstantin: yes, just make a copy of entire partition09:36
Sfiet_Konstantincan you dd over ssh ?09:37
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Sfiet_Konstantinthanks Stskeeps and stephg !10:35
stephgrecover anything?10:35
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Sfiet_Konstantinrecovered stuff from /home/user10:36
Sfiet_Konstantinso maybe even contacts and stuff are restored10:37
Sfiet_Konstantinno space to dump the whole MyDocs10:37
Sfiet_Konstantinwill dump it after freeing stuff10:37
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Sfiet_Konstantindidn't knew about photorec10:40
Sfiet_Konstantinthanks guys10:40
Sfiet_Konstantinlearnt something today10:40
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Sfiet_KonstantinI think it is impossible to recover the tracker db though: everything is scattered in small pieces all around10:46
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fk_lxTake part in anonymous survey about past and current cooperation between companies and communities in open source mobile Linux projects (all questions are optional):12:07
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zbenjaminSfiet_Konstantin: wtf? how could this happen?12:17
zbenjamini mean the corrupted disk12:17
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fk_lxfaenil: \o12:29
faenilhey :)12:29
fk_lxfaenil: take part in it
* faenil starts filling in12:30
faenilfk_lx, can't really help with that survey, but I'm filling replying to some of them12:32
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fk_lxfaenil: even partial answers matter12:37
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Sfiet_Konstantinzbenjamin: well, dunno12:52
Sfiet_Konstantinmorning faenil12:52
Sfiet_Konstantinfk_lx: filling the survey12:53
faenilSfiet_Konstantin, hey o/12:53
fk_lxSfiet_Konstantin: thanks, seems a lot of people filling the survey from what I've seen12:54
fk_lxSfiet_Konstantin: still i need to go also to Mozilla IRC12:54
Sfiet_Konstantinfk_lx: yeah12:54
fk_lxnow I need to grab some food so bbl12:55
Sfiet_Konstantinfk_lx: bon app├ętit12:59
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fk_lxSfiet_Konstantin: merci13:15
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locusfhmm damn15:25
locusfmy dropbox public links have generated too much traffic so my nemo image uploading days might be over :/15:25
Sfiet_Konstantinlocusf: we need to access to another server ?15:26
Sfiet_Konstantincan't you access (or ask for access) the nemo servers ?15:26
locusfSfiet_Konstantin: yeah15:26
locusfSfiet_Konstantin: I could probably ask15:26
Sfiet_KonstantinStskeeps, lbt ^15:26
Sfiet_Konstantindm8tbr: do you know who is in charge of this ? (nemo mobile FTP servers ?)15:26
lbtI think we can use IMG and publish images - but would be nice to setup torrents too15:27
locusfah finally IMG15:27
locusfits still alive eh :) ?15:27
lbtoh yes :)15:27
dm8tbrI'll be hapy to offer my old community image server15:28
Sfiet_Konstantinlbt: torrents ?15:28
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Sfiet_Konstantinbecause I don't think that there will be much seeders15:28
Sfiet_Konstantinit is not a linux distro (yet)15:28
dm8tbrI can run a seed-node on 100M15:29
locusfI could seed it 24/715:29
lbtdm8tbr: I think we should look at getting a few of the hosters to seed15:29
lbtthat gives resilience too15:29
lbtwe can put a torrent client into the SDK15:29
lbtbut ... plane soon so not much chatting :)15:29
Sfiet_Konstantinlbt: have a good flight15:30
dm8tbrhave a pleasant flight15:30
lbtdm8tbr: going to be in Hel this week at all ?15:31
dm8tbrlbt: no plans yet, but might try to arrange15:34
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qwazixI can seed too.16:19
qwazixBtw Sfiet_Konstantin, if you saved the .smartsearch folder there are some useful sqlite db's there (notes and sms at least)16:19
qwazixcheck for the biggest file in that dir16:19
qwazix(might also have contacts in there too)16:20
Sfiet_Konstantinqwazix: in .smartsearch ?16:20
Sfiet_KonstantinI abandonned the idea of restoring .smartsearch16:21
Sfiet_Konstantinbecause my disk got corrupted16:21
Sfiet_Konstantinthanks god I exported contacts16:21
qwazixah ok. It's probably vtvmc.db if you ever need it again (hope not)16:21
Sfiet_Konstantinwe are getting a jolla here16:22
Sfiet_Konstantinno more N916:22
Sfiet_Konstantinsorry Nokia16:22
Sfiet_Konstantineven if the N9 is beautiful and nice16:22
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locusffaenil: o/16:33
faenillocusf, o/16:33
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Sfiet_Konstantinmorning faenil, locusf16:38
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Morpog_PCqwazix, what would be the U for the Jolla?17:13
Morpog_PCPPI is lamost the same for both17:16
qwazixjust a sec17:19
qwazixMorpog_PC, should be the same17:19
Morpog_PCbut that doesn't make sense :)17:20
qwazixbigger screen, bigger res, same viewing distance => more things on screen17:20
qwazixof course it does17:20
Morpog_PCah ok, I thought it would be same stuff on screen17:20
qwazixno, same u, more pixels to fill17:20
Morpog_PChmmm, that makes life for developers even more painfully I think17:21
qwazixa little, yeah. But screen real estate is precious17:21
qwazixwe shouldn't waste it by scaling everything up17:21
Morpog_PCwell, then we need additional code for each device17:22
Morpog_PClike an extra row of icons17:22
Morpog_PCerrr collumn17:22
qwazixwe should use adaptive code, not device specific17:23
qwazixjust a sec17:23
qwazixplease resize the result pane17:27
qwazix(which IIRC is exactly how the current nemo homescreen works)17:27
Morpog_PCdo our components dev know that?17:27
qwazixI think it was never in question that our UI is adaptive17:28
qwazixbut we can re-confirm it just to be sure17:28
Morpog_PCwell, I always thought it'S same content on all displays but with higher resolution graphics and scaled components17:29
Morpog_PCthats also adaptive17:29
Morpog_PChmm, a 5th row on 960x540 would be too crowded I guess17:31
qwazixoops, giant link17:31
qwazixanyway, it shows nemo on various screens,17:31
qwazixdifferent number of columns each time17:31
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Morpog_PCoooh you are right17:33
Morpog_PCjust tried the VM with 720.128017:33
Morpog_PCjust tried the VM with 720x128017:33
Morpog_PCIt's 5 rows there17:33
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Morpog_PCstill 540x960 looks a bit empty :)17:36
qwazixwe can still tweak spacing and icon sizes to look good on common resolutions17:42
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piggzim doing some horrible breakage to my n950...18:34
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faenilseems like nobody reviewed my PR in the weekend, lazy boys :P19:02
Morpog_PCwell, nothing happened at all this weekend :)19:02
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Morpog_PCnah, I think I give up with this lockscreen wallpaper :(19:09
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piggzooo, nice, my n950 is running saifish ui :) ... vibration is constantly on tho :/19:11
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dm8tbrpiggz: gives vibrant UI a whole new meaning...19:16
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piggzdm8tbr: it stopped vibrating :)19:22
Morpog_PChmmpf :(19:35
Morpog_PComg sledges you fool, you fooled me :)19:35
faenillocusf, got time to review the Page PR?19:35
Morpog_PCI'm sure you have known this from beginning... :)19:35
locusffaenil: I already did but forgot to LGTM :)19:39
faenillocusf, you have to be more critic! :P19:39
faenileverything is good to you :D19:39
locusfyeah :D19:39
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Morpog_PCgot something to review too :D19:47
EztranWell, that seems pretty important :)19:50
locusfthat fixes it?19:54
locusffaenil: one really small nitpick, otherwise LGTM19:58
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Morpog_PClocusf, well, I couldn't try it, but I made a test in Sailfish SDK and tehre it fixed it.20:06
locusfMorpog_PC: what happens exactly?20:07
Morpog_PCwell, rectangle is rendered above image20:07
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Morpog_PCwith z-1 it's rendered behind20:07
Morpog_PCdunno if that rectangle is needed at all :)20:08
Morpog_PCcould be handy if no image is present?20:08
specialmaybe shouldn't be red anymore.20:08
locusfah can see it now20:09
Morpog_PCspecial, yeah could be black too :)20:09
locusfsure that rect can go, but only if there is a wallpaper20:10
locusfnow I have my Jolla sailfish in there, flat20:10
Morpog_PCI think we should let the rect in for now20:11
locusfbut what happens when the wallpaper source is gone?20:11
faenillocusf, I didn't mean "bitch about style changes" I mean be more evil on QML side :D20:11
locusfdoes the rect get shown instead?20:11
faenilif you know how to make one thing better, comment ;)20:11
Morpog_PCthinking about where to set the default gconf keys, if in glacier theme or in lipstick colorful20:11
locusffaenil: I don't know how :D20:11
faenillocusf, ok :)20:11
Morpog_PClocusf, try to change the gconf keys to something non existent20:13
locusfMorpog_PC: okay20:13
Morpog_PClike that:20:13
Morpog_PC/usr/bin/gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:merged:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults -s -t string /desktop/meego/background/portrait/picture_filename /usr/share/themes/glacier/meegotouch/icons/wallpaper-portrait.png20:13
Morpog_PC/usr/bin/gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:merged:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults -s -t string /desktop/meego/background/landscape/picture_filename /usr/share/themes/glacier/meegotouch/icons/wallpaper-landscape.png20:13
Morpog_PCafter that you should see the red rectangle again20:14
locusffaenil: I started with QML this summer with Sailfish, so only experience from that, your Glacier stuff is like space age to me20:14
faenillocusf, ah ok no problem :)20:14
faenilmaybe we should pay w00t or special a fee to review our PRs when the PR stack is full :D20:15
locusfMorpog_PC: nope, still flat sailfish20:15
Morpog_PChmmm, where is your image located?20:16
locusfMorpog_PC: I haven't got the slightest clue, I tried to "find" it but couldn't find anything20:16
Morpog_PCthat sailfish one20:16
Morpog_PCthere is a default path, let me look20:17
specialfaenil: I accept pastries20:17
faenilspecial, deal! o/20:17
locusfMorpog_PC: yes there is images/graphics-wallpaper-home.jpg20:17
Morpog_PCdefaultValue: "images/graphics-wallpaper-home.jpg"20:17
Morpog_PCyou had lipstick from sailfish on there?20:18
locusfMorpog_PC: yeah20:18
Morpog_PCthen maybe that default image came from there20:18
Morpog_PChmmm, it's in a qrc I think20:21
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qwazixfaenil, reparenting all page components might not be a good idea (I really can't think a problem right now) but sometimes reparenting is completely confusing to dev20:27
faenilqwazix, ?20:27
qwazixfaenil, I'm looking at your page code20:28
faenilqwazix, oh20:28
faenilqwazix, well, that pattern is often used in qml components toolkits20:28
qwazixyeah I know, but if we could avoid using it in such a big scope without too much mess it would be nicer20:29
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faenilyou cannot really do that, unless you like doing something like: " data: [Item1, Item2] "20:29
qwazixthere will be lots of times a developer will do randProperty: parent.randProperty inside a page and get an inexplicable exception20:29
faenilnot inexplicable, if he reads documentation20:30
faenilthe same happens for QML Flickable, just to make a very common example20:30
faenildocs clearly says not to use "parent" because it won't get you where you want20:30
qwazix:nod: but we also lose anchors of children to the page that way, do we want that?20:31
faenilthe items are just reparented to what the content area is20:31
qwazixanchors cannot be assigned to non-parents, non-siblings bla bla20:32
faenilin fact you assign it to your parent20:32
faenilwhich is the container of page's children20:32
faenilit's transparent to dev20:32
faenilqwazix, or if you like "data: [Item1 {} , Item2{ } ] more...20:33
qwazixI would still prefer to have it Page { content: blabla } } just for the code to be self explanatory instead of having to read the docs but anyway20:33
faenilqwazix, that way you still need a middle component, even Item, which will be what is actually the container20:34
qwazixthe best solution would be ofc no need for intermediate Items but I suppose that's impossible20:34
faenilcontent: Item { stuff inside page }20:34
* qwazix ponders that QML should allow to set the user-facing ` parent` property differently from the internal one20:35
qwazixOk then, let's leave it as you've done it. You persuaded me :P20:36
faenilno no, think about something better ;)20:37
faenilI agree it's better to get rid of the confusion, I just can't see how without moving Toolbar to appwindow (as in qtcomponents)20:37
faenilwhich means it's only possible if Page's children are the only visual items you're laying out inside the window20:38
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faeniland moving toolbar to appwindow means changing logic of upstream Stackview20:41
qwazixI'm not sure if we discussed this again: if we have ToolbarLayout{ anchors.bottom: parent.bottom }20:42
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qwazixand then do Page{ ToolbarLayout {}} won't it stick to the bottom?20:42
faenilqwazix, are you referring to qtcomponents?20:42
qwazixno, imaginary controls20:43
faenilToolbarLayout usually is the middle item we're talking about20:43
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qwazixyeah, anyway, let's call it Toolbar {}20:43
qwazixand as we are speaking for Glacier, let's say Toolbar is      Toolbar {; width: parent.width}20:45
qwazixIf when you include Toolbar in a page it keeps it's anchors (I don't remember if that happens), then we can get rid of `tools` property20:45
qwazixand just do pages like this:      Page{ Toolbar{}  Item1{} Item2{} }20:46
faenilof course that works, but it breaks headerdock if they don't anchor it correctly20:46
qwazixI suppose dev's can break things anyway if they want.20:47
qwazixNot sure if it makes sense protecting them from re-anchoring the toolbar20:48
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faenilthat's always true, the trick is making is less trivial to break stuff20:48
faenilqwazix, what? what about all the headerdock logic?20:48
qwazixwhat about it?20:49
faenilyou have to handle all the damn cases20:49
faenilif you allow people to move it20:49
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faenilqwazix, what if they anchor it to bottom?20:50
qwazixno we don't want them to move it. We can just declare re-anchoring as unsupported but I don't know if this is worse than reparenting to be honest)20:50
qwazixor is it possible to lock properties down in qml?20:51
faenilqwazix, well, not properties which you don't define :P (anchors)20:51
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qwazixwe can disable the dock if they anchor it at the wrong place20:53
faenilcome on, seriously? :D20:54
faenilalso, not sure detecting that case is trivial20:55
faenil(if it can be detected at all)20:55
qwazixIt seems then there isn't any better solution20:57
qwazix(or at least I can't think about one)20:57
faenilwell, the (don't know if better) solution is to move toolbar to appwindow, modify stackview and its logic to take care of setting tools taken from the page, just like qtcomponents do20:57
faenilwhich would shorten page loading time (and memory) because it doesn't have to create the toolbar but only its children20:58
qwazixit doesn't sound bad20:59
qwazixwhat's the catch?20:59
faenilqwazix, don't know if you noticed, but it's same reparenting thing in appwindow, where I reparent to the rotated item, which takes care of orientation handling21:00
faenilqwazix, it's not bad, it just needs responsibility of modifying upstream code and cherrypicking updates when QQC are updated21:00
faenilor bugs get fixed21:00
qwazixfaenil, hadn't noticed, but that's mostly internal, so I wouldn't bother too much. It will be extremely rare one will have other things in appwindow and outside the page.21:01
qwazix(or reanchor the page, or appwindow for that matter)21:01
qwazixheaderDock logic will be in the toolbar, or in appWindow?21:03
faeniltoolbar is qqc toolbar21:03
faenilPage will have HeaderDock or something21:03
faenilyou mean toolbar vs toolbar content maybe?21:04
qwazixhmm, then that page loading time difference might be important21:04
faenilwell yeah, more important that it is at the moment21:04
faenilthan at the moment*21:05
qwazixmy hunch says that they will do that change for touch QQC upstream some time soon...21:05
faenilqwazix, ?21:07
qwazixjust thinking that the current qqc implementation only fits the desktop and they might want to change that for android/iphone qqc21:08
qwazixbut who knows21:08
faenilqwazix, yes, in January maybe?21:08
qwazixwe can keep it as is for now, and follow upstream, if they change it21:09
faenilI don't like postponing such decisions, but yeah, there's not much we can do about this except taking the responsibility to keep it updated21:09
faenilqwazix, actually I could hack it without modifying stackview maybe21:10
qwazixbtw can you please explain why ` __isNemoPage` is needed please? I think I lost the logic there21:10
faenilby changing the tools of the appwindow when the "top item of pagestack" changes21:11
faenilthat may lead to visual bugs such as toolbar appearing after the page is already loaded21:11
qwazixhmm... that might work21:11
faenilor similar stuff, but if we accept that until upstream QQC do it21:12
qwazixmaybe watching the animation state will help?21:12
faenilqwazix, what do you mean21:12
faenilthe issue is with the timing currentItem signal (which is the one regarding top of page stack) is fired21:13
qwazixisn't there a 'animating' state in the pageStack so that controls are locked while moving?21:13
qwazixwatching that can tell you when the transition starts and ends, exactly21:14
qwazixso you can do your thing at that time21:14
faenilqwazix, that doesn't help if the currentItem property hasn't changed yet at that time21:14
faenilas we don't know what the new page is21:15
qwazixif you fade the toolbar contents out every time an animation starts21:15
qwazixand fade the new ones back in when the property has settled, it's an okay compromise21:15
faenilyes well that can limit the visual bug, but it's still there :)21:15
faenilor it could also work without issues, has to be tested21:16
qwazixthe visual bug is there even if you knew which is the next page21:16
qwazixbecause you can't slide the toolbar away as it's not part of the page21:16
faenilqwazix, the thing is we should do that change inside the push() function of stackview21:16
faenilqwazix, then how do you think qtcomponents did? ;)21:16
qwazixparallel animation? sounds tough to sync21:18
faenilqwazix, if you look closely, page and toolbars in qtcomponents have different animations ;)21:18
faenilqwazix, eh, magic always comes with a price21:18
qwazixindeed they have different animations. Hadn't noticed21:19
faenilqwazix, all stuff I learned while working on glacier ;)21:20
faenilyup :)21:21
qwazixcan't we create a wrapper for pageStack.push() ?21:21
qwazixwhich does our thing and then calls the push() ?21:21
qwazix(or is it that pageStack is ours anyway and I'm talking nonsense?)21:22
faenilqwazix, not sure that's doable21:22
faenilinternal logic will use push anyway21:22
faenilso it will work only in some cases (this is if we don't touch upstream stackview)21:22
faenilbb in 15mins21:24
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faenilqwazix, so..21:40
zbenjaminyo guys ;)21:40
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zbenjaminfaenil: anything i missed?21:46
faenilzbenjamin, nah, discussing with qwazix about toolbar and qml stuff21:48
zbenjaminfaenil: any new infos about the android driver?21:48
zbenjamini guess i just have to try :/ i hope i don't fry my phone21:48
faenilzbenjamin, nope21:48
zbenjaminfaenil: we should try this some time this week, maybe we can combine our minds ;)21:49
faenilzbenjamin, not sure I want to spend time on it21:50
faenilthings look too messy21:50
zbenjaminyou think android devices is the way to go?21:50
faeniland chance of success is very low, unless a lot of time is wasted on it21:50
faenilzbenjamin, definitely21:50
zbenjamin:/ i'll miss the n921:54
zbenjaminalso i lack a free android device ...21:54
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faenilzbenjamin, same here... :(21:57
zbenjaminfaenil: just in case, where can i grep the kernel source from? ;)21:57
faenilzbenjamin, n9 nemo kernel?21:57
zbenjaminwould i need to build a complete image ? or can i just put the driver in the right directory and load it21:57
faenilI think putting the file would be enough, if it was glibc21:58
faenilbut it's android -> bionic -> libhybris needed21:58
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zbenjaminyes, but there where two links on that page, a linux driver and a android driver21:59
faenildidn't we need the android one because we're told it's more similar to wayland?22:00
faenilnot sure android and linux here are just different builds, they may be completely different drivers22:01
faenil(not sure)22:01
zbenjamintrue , but trying the linux one can not hurt too imho, at least we don't need bionic and hybris22:01
zbenjaminthe driver has Null Window System (with Pixmap support)22:01
zbenjaminFront (1 buffer), Flip (chained buffers)22:02
faenilgood luck :D hope you succeed22:03
zbenjaminfaenil: but thats the correct driver right? i mean from looking at the devices it supports22:04
faenildon't know :(22:04
faenilgood night people o/22:09
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dmolHello. I just tried to flash my n950 with moslo: . It seems, that it didn't flashed moslo.img. Why so?22:46
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