Friday, 2013-11-08

sledgeshaving said that and looking at the clock, perfect reason to go to zzzleep :)00:00
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sledgesmorni07:46
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locusfmorning07:59
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faenilo/09:34
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Morpog_N9____congrats faenil10:52
faenilMorpog_N9____, thanks :)10:53
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Morpog_N9____homeoffice?10:53
Stskeepshandcuffed to a desk in tampere10:53
Morpog_N9____hehe :D10:54
Morpog_N9____just like all sailors I guess ;)10:54
Stskeepsthat's why i work from home, just a remote activateable bomb attached to my leg..10:54
Stskeeps:P10:54
faenilMorpog_N9____, yeah, they don't let me go!10:56
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faenilcan't eat, can't breathe, can't watch out of the window!10:56
faeniljokes apart, it's awesome :D10:56
sledgesi knew something fishy was going on :D10:58
sledgescongrats man \\o// you did it!10:58
sledgestrue dream come true :)10:59
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Morpog_N9____sledges, it's internship10:59
faenilsledges, yeah :D well it's internship, got to go back to uni after that :(10:59
faenilbut still :D10:59
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sledgeswhatever you can get :DD11:00
sledgesyou know what happens if you do well during intern ;)11:00
faenil:)11:00
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sledgesso you moved to .fi??11:07
sledgesa big move that was ;)11:07
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sledgesfaenil "Nemo trojan horse" mission accomplished :D11:36
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faenilsledges, \o/12:30
faenilsledges, yep I'm in Tampere ;)12:30
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Hurrianhappy sailing, faenil!12:40
faenilHurrian, thank you :)12:40
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sandy_lockehi peops16:39
sandy_lockeif someone there: I had to flash and reinstall my n9, and when I install apps all apps crash when process is done16:40
sandy_lockemeaning I can't install more than one app at once^^16:40
sandy_lockeI'm talking harmattan here, just wondered if s/o went across a similar issue and has a solution :/16:40
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sledgessandy_locke: you can ask in #harmattan16:51
sandy_lockearf, thx sledges . Somehow I hoped the answer would be here ;)16:52
sledgesmy harmattan install is in a dire state :D trying to stay away :))16:52
sledgesdidn't really get your question. why are you bulk-installing apps in the first place?16:52
sandy_lockeI wanted to reinstall the system ui packages for the quick access menu16:53
sledgeshumm i guess it's some mod i've never used16:53
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sandy_lockeit's a bunch of script that install some packages in the process16:53
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sledgeshumm16:54
sledgescopy the script to your PC16:54
sandy_lockebut the real issue is that *any* app I install then crashes all other apps ^^16:54
sledgesadd sleep 5 between all calls ;)16:54
sledgeshmmmmmmm16:54
sledgesyou mean16:54
sledgesinstalling (with dpkg -i)16:54
sledgesor apt-get install16:54
sledgescauses other apps to crash?16:54
sledges(running innocent apps?)16:54
sandy_lockeor simply installing from the store16:54
sledgesok16:55
sledgesweird16:55
sandy_locke*any* kind of install, for *any* app16:55
sledgesand that script triggers the same thing too?16:55
sandy_lockethe scripts use dpkg or apt-get, both16:55
sledgestried installing an app yourself?16:56
sledgeswhat does it error out with?16:56
sandy_lockeI wonder if it's not when aegis is called16:56
sledgesor just kill other apps silently?16:56
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sledgesah ofc16:56
sledgesaegis16:56
sledges:D16:56
sledgesthe answer to all problems :16:56
sledges:D16:56
sandy_locke;)16:56
sledgesthe craziest is that it fails after fresh reflash :|16:56
sledgesare you in open mode?16:56
sandy_lockeI have installed openmode, so maybe I did something wrong in the process and now aegis behave oddly16:56
sledgesif so, maybe you forgot to delete ~/.aegis and stuff16:57
sledges^ ;)16:57
sandy_lockemmmhn didn't know about that16:57
sandy_lockejust ~/.aegis ?16:57
sledgeshttp://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1326771&postcount=37216:57
sledgesalso http://wiki.maemo.org/Ubiboot#When_Not_Starting_From_A_Fresh_Flash16:58
sandy_locke(for info sledges, I went back to my n9 today to look at this : http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91743)16:58
sledges;) yea i heard the hype :)16:58
sledgesquite nice!16:58
sandy_lockeyup, freshen up things ;)16:59
sandy_lockethx for the link, I'm on it then16:59
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sandy_lockeok, rebooting, will see if it worked ^^17:02
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sledgesg_luck17:06
sandy_lockedoesn't seem to work :/17:08
sledges#harmattan17:10
sledges:)17:10
sandy_lockeyup, trying again with install of meecast, but not very confident17:11
sandy_lockeI'll go there if it crashes again...17:11
sandy_lockeI did repair it once, I already had the issue17:12
sandy_lockedunno how I did though17:12
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sledgesor just kill other apps silently?17:16
sledgeswhat does it error out with?17:16
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sandy_lockesledges: no errors, apps are just killed17:34
sandy_lockeI think I'll do a full erase again and reinstall openmode kernel from scratch17:35
sandy_lockebut I'm afraid I'll end up with exactly the same issues17:35
sandy_lockenobody on #harmattan17:36
sledgesyes17:36
sandy_lockebtw17:36
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sandy_lockesledges: have you a good multiboot option for nemo/harmattan ?17:36
sledgespatience is bliss :))17:36
sledgesfriday eve ;)17:36
sledgesubiboot17:36
sledgesthe link i gave you17:37
sledgesit takes through reflashing and dealing with openmode17:37
sledgesworth a go this friday night i guess :)17:37
sandy_lockelol17:37
sandy_lockeyeah, I'll give it a try I think :)17:37
sandy_lockethx I didn't notice the link17:37
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sledgesthe link was about rm .aegjs17:38
sledgesbut now just start to the top17:38
sledges:)17:38
sandy_lockeI just noticed the maemo talk link17:39
sandy_lockenot the one below ;)17:39
sledgesaok :)17:39
sandy_lockesledges: can I boot 5 OS's with it ???17:41
sandy_lockeif yes I'm tempted to install the whole bunch !17:41
sledgeso ya17:41
sledges:))17:41
sandy_lockesweet :D17:41
sledgesi dont think n9's 5os ready, but it will be17:42
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sandy_lockehey peops, a good way to check n9 partitions for errors ?20:18
sandy_lockeMoslo won't create the Alt_OS partition...20:19
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sledgessandy_locke: here we go again :D22:50
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sandy_lockesledges: :P23:04
sledgesyou can telnet into moslo23:05
sledgesand do fdisk /dev/mmcblk023:05
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sandy_lockeyeah, but telnet never work for me. I tried23:12
sledgesthe just reboot to harmattan23:13
sandy_lockeplus I already murdered the mmc partition by forcing a fsck while in harmattan23:13
sandy_lockeso I erased everything... again ;)23:13
sledgesthats ok23:13
sledgeswhich partition though23:13
sledges:D23:14
sandy_lockedunno something with mmc and a 2 in it :P23:14
sandy_lockereboot loop afterward ^^23:15
sandy_lockeanyway, I won't do it tonight, but I'll restart the whole process tomorrow, maybe while being helped with someone here brave enough ;)23:16
sledgesi dont know whom you are talking about :D23:16
sandy_lockethe thing is that it seems that my MyDoc partition won't let itself divided by MOSLO23:17
sledgesit just shrinks it23:17
sandy_lockeyeah, well it won't do it23:17
sledgeshmph23:17
sledgesfresh flash?23:17
sandy_locke(man I sound so much like a noob, right ? :P)23:17
sandy_lockeyeah, after fresh zeorize23:18
sandy_lockeI'll try again with the (again) new fresh flash from 2 hours ago23:19
sandy_lockeI let it cool to not knock my head against the walls tonight ;)23:19
sledgesthis MOSLO bug is making every brave soul feel like a noob23:21
sandy_lockegood news is: I can restart the process any time if I don't deviate from the howto's23:21
sandy_lockeyeah, would be good for MOSLO to just fsck partitions beforehand23:21
sandy_lockeit can do it with the right tools since it doesn"t load any system stuffs23:22
sandy_lockeyou know who's in charge of MOSLO ? Maybe we could ask him23:22
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sledgesaard_?23:28
sledgesi had some indepth encounters with moslo too23:29
sledgesyou think no fscks prevent shrinking a partition23:29
sledges?23:30
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sledgesbecause from most common MOSLO autopartition error I came across in this channel is MyDocs successfully shrunk, but the nemo partition not created in the new space23:36
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sandy_lockemmmh23:40
sandy_lockeI didn't check if the partition shrunk23:40
sandy_lockethe time I checked my MyDocs partition had a starting and ending blocks mismatch23:41
sandy_lockethis time I was sure the partition didn't shrink23:41
sandy_lockebut this last time I didn't check23:42
sledgesmismatch as in "does not end on the cyllinger boundary" warning?23:42
sandy_lockeno, more as 'not the same as in the partition table'23:42
sledgesthe partition itself is as it is defined in partition table23:43
sandy_lockeI messed up something when I installed a multi boot called Backup Menu23:43
sledgesunless its size reported incorrectly, there's no other place to check boundaries as the partition table itself23:43
sledgesah ok23:43
sledgesso you didn't go ubiboot way ;P23:43
sandy_lockeno no, I mean the first time I tried to install Nemo23:44
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sandy_lockeI'm at my third time ;)23:44
sandy_lockeRight now I go ubiboot :)23:44
sledgeswell good :))23:44
sandy_lockewell, anyway, when I installed BackupMenu, it must have shrunk the partition incorrectly because the partitions were untouchable23:47
sandy_lockealways errors23:47
sandy_lockeand I fairly believe that a fsck could have fixed it23:47
sandy_lockebut this time, I don't know what happened, I don't know how I could have known23:48
sandy_lockemmmh wait23:49
sandy_lockewait wait23:49
sandy_lockeit wasn't like that23:49
sandy_lockepartitions were good before moslo23:49
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sandy_lockebut then I think that when MOSLO shrunk the partition, in the end MyDocs was divided in three partitions23:50
sandy_locke(AltOS, MyDocs and BackupMenu which has its own mini 'OS')23:50
sledgesah23:51
sandy_lockethat what made MOSLO crazy23:51
sledgeswell23:51
sledgesif backupmenu repartitions23:51
sledgesthen yes23:51
sandy_lockeCould it be that it could not handle three partitions, messing with it's logic ?23:51
sledgesyes23:51
sandy_lockethen that was it23:51
sledgesanyway23:52
sledgesnow i refreshed my memory23:52
sledgesinitially there are 3 partitions23:52
sledgesMydocs, user and rootfs23:52
sledgesmoslo shrinks the user one23:53
sandy_lockeyes23:53
sandy_lockeand backup menu too23:53
sandy_lockeso there's something with logic and extended partitions or do I dream ?23:54
sandy_locke4 logic is max no ?23:54
sandy_lockedo you think I could install MOSLO first in the process of the howto you gave me (installing ubiboot) ?23:55
sandy_locketo see if it shrinks and then follow the howto, saving time23:55
sledgesif moslo sees 4th partition23:55
sledgesit immediately thinks it's nemo23:56
sledgesthen it does some checks on it, and bails out i believe23:56
sledgesso backupmenu and moslo are incompatible :{23:56
sandy_lockemmh ok23:56
sledgesthe process of ubiboot is correct because it does not create other partitions23:57
sandy_lockepretty logic actually, or you could end up with a new partition each time you launch MOSLO^^23:57
sledgesso moslo can do its job at anytime of that howto23:57
sandy_lockenice23:57
sledgesyes, but moslo could be smartified23:57
sandy_lockethen I'll install MOSLO first23:58
sledgesalthough that's not worth the n9 effort in this day and age23:58
sledgesfirst install open mode23:58
sandy_lockeyeah it could23:58
sandy_lockeok23:58
sledgesvia the howto23:58
sandy_lockeopen mode already installed23:58
sledgesand aegis removed?23:58
sledgesetc23:58
sandy_lockeI did it just after the zeroize23:58
sledgesgood23:59
sledgesand disabled the warranty screen? ;) lucky you, im still to do that during next reflash23:59
sandy_lockeI don't think you need to remove the aegis stuffs when you zeroize, do you ?23:59
sledgesthen you can go moslo23:59
sledgesi don't know that23:59
sandy_lockeyeah, warranty screen removed23:59
sledgessee if your apps don't bomb away when you're instsalling them next time ;)23:59

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