Tuesday, 2013-11-12

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OrokuSakiI am unfamilair with rebuilding a srpm... I have probably never done it with rpm or zypp.. just adb... do we use rpmrebuild or uhh ? =)00:44
OrokuSakiI usually just extract the tar and compile it and install it.. but packaging it...00:44
OrokuSakimb build?00:44
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niqtmorning07:51
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fk_lxmorning07:53
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Mark__TI just got after one year of absense a working n900 again, so I wonder if there will be wayland based images for it (and if that would even be possible given that there probably aren't open drivers for the graphics hardware)08:22
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dm8tbrMark__T: the situation may be similar to the N9 as both use OMAP3, just improved silicon and die-shrink on the N9.08:38
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Mark__Tdm8tbr: so n9 images may actually work?08:53
dm8tbrI didn't say that specifically. But the relation between hardware is close. So it might work the same as previously when it was still X1108:54
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Mark__TI read on the list that nicola was going to try it out in August, but didn't find anything newer09:07
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locusfhmm my N9 is either dead or dying10:03
locusfwont power on properly :/10:03
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locusfprobably just needs juice10:05
faenil2A chargers resurrect everything ;)10:06
locusfI'm using the nokia circular charger10:07
faenilthat's 1.5A10:11
faenilbut yeah, should do :)10:11
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sledgesmurning10:18
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Morpog_N9my asus 2A charger resurrected my N9 even with that swapped new battery which was totally empty10:37
Morpog_N9morning btw :D10:38
faenil:)10:38
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dm8tbrthe other option would have been flasher -O wait_charging10:42
dm8tbror sthg like that10:42
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faeniloh, nice10:52
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Guest4396_Hello from communi w00t11:51
w00t:)11:52
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locusfit was quite nice typing that from glacier keyboard within Silica app11:53
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faenilw00t, you're coding yet another client? or is that Sfiet's? :D12:01
w00tfaenil: I started porting communi-meego a few months ago, so it's not from scratch12:01
faeniloki12:01
w00thttps://github.com/rburchell/communi-sailfish if you want to tinker12:02
faenilSfiet is also writing one on top of libcommuni12:02
faeniland Venemo is rebasing IRC Chatter on top of new libcommuni stuff12:02
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Sfiet_Konstantinmorning guys12:14
Sfiet_Konstantinlocusf, sledges, faenil :12:14
faenilo/12:14
Sfiet_Konstantin:)12:14
locusfhey12:15
Sfiet_Konstantinwant to do some work on Nemo12:15
Sfiet_Konstantinis there any task to grab ?12:15
faenilSfiet_Konstantin, well, components :)12:15
locusfSfiet_Konstantin: figure out why redrawing the trumpet canvas segfaults the entire app :) ?12:15
locusfSfiet_Konstantin: https://github.com/locusf/qtquickcontrols-nemo/commit/6cfe421ec3a628ed609474dc93811bf7794030c112:16
Sfiet_Konstantinlocusf: great :D12:17
Sfiet_Konstantinlooks fun :D12:17
Sfiet_Konstantinlocusf: any other components ?12:17
faenillocusf, just random guess: you're accessing glcontext outside of its thread?12:17
Sfiet_Konstantinbecause trumpet reminds me of some nightmares12:17
faenilSfiet_Konstantin, man it's full of stuff to do12:17
faenilall components :P12:18
Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil: :)12:18
Sfiet_Konstantinyeah I know12:18
faenilhttps://github.com/qwazix/glacier-controls-spec12:18
faeniljust pick one12:18
faeniland make it reality :)12:18
locusffaenil: probablyt12:18
Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil: will do :)12:18
faenil:)12:18
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Sfiet_Konstantineh12:33
Sfiet_Konstantinis the livecoding arena doing anything useful right now ?12:33
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faenilSfiet_Konstantin, it's for you to develop components :P12:39
faenilon desktop of course :)12:39
Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil: but it don't do anything :(12:39
faenil?12:39
Sfiet_Konstantinit do not display anything12:39
faenilyou type code and then press the button?12:39
faenilthere's also an error text box12:39
Sfiet_Konstantinthere is a button ? :O12:39
faenil..12:39
faenilThe glacier button on top of the text area?12:40
Sfiet_Konstantinah12:40
Sfiet_Konstantinit works :)12:40
Sfiet_Konstantin:D12:40
faenil:P12:40
Sfiet_Konstantindidn't knew that it was a button :D12:40
faenillol12:40
Sfiet_KonstantinBTW, I think that https://github.com/SfietKonstantin/libqmldecorator might be useful12:41
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faenilSfiet_Konstantin, sure12:44
faenilSfiet_Konstantin, just plug it in then ;12:45
faenil;)12:45
Sfiet_Konstantin:)12:45
Sfiet_Konstantinlet's do the spinner :)12:45
Morpog_N9cool12:46
sledgesSfiet_Konstantin: hi; ooi why do you keep main.cpp under bin/ ? :)12:46
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: because it is a lib12:46
Sfiet_Konstantinyou can import it as a QML plugin to decorate text directly12:47
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Sfiet_Konstantinor it is linked to the bin (main.cpp) to write a LaTeX decorator12:47
Sfiet_Konstantinthat transforms QML code into a latex friendly code12:47
Sfiet_Konstantinthat outputs a highlighted QML code12:47
sledgesi know what it does12:48
sledgesunless there is a strict definition why src files need to be kept in bin/ folders, i am bafflet a bit ;)12:48
Sfiet_Konstantin:D12:48
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Sfiet_Konstantinµpull-request: https://github.com/nemomobile/qtquickcontrols-nemo/pull/1013:13
Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil, locusf, sledges ^13:14
locusfhmm my device runs out of battery even when on usb13:16
Sfiet_Konstantinlocusf: 100PU ?13:16
Sfiet_KonstantinCPU13:16
locusfprobably, due to reasons unknown13:17
Sfiet_Konstantinabout the progress spinner, what is that "blend all 4 dots" thing ?13:17
faenilmerged13:20
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Sfiet_Konstantinthx faenil13:24
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Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil: one more13:29
Sfiet_Konstantinhttps://github.com/nemomobile/qtquickcontrols-nemo/pull/1113:29
Sfiet_Konstantinit is µµµ13:29
Sfiet_Konstantinµ = micro13:29
faenildone13:30
OrokuSakirpmbuild -ba .spec that seems to be right13:30
Sfiet_Konstantinqwazix: ping ?13:36
Sfiet_Konstantinthx faenil13:38
Sfiet_Konstantinlove your comments :)13:38
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sledges+113:44
sledgesSfiet_Konstantin: blend (=fade)13:46
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: well, fade to 0% opacity ?13:46
Sfiet_Konstantinor 10% .13:46
Sfiet_Konstantin?13:46
Sfiet_Konstantinnot specified13:46
sledgesStep 1: fade in from black to white13:47
sledgesStep 2: fade in dot1 from white to blue (result - in step 3)13:48
sledgeshttps://raw.github.com/qwazix/glacier-controls-spec/master/progress-spinner/example.gif13:48
Sfiet_Konstantinarg13:49
Sfiet_Konstantin:(13:49
OrokuSakivgrade@ did you have to change anything with platform eglfs plugin for qt5 and hybris? Just curious13:49
qwazixSfiet_Konstantin, pong13:50
sledgesi would like an option to be able to start "loading done" animation from any dot13:50
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: I'm using states :)13:50
sledgesto avoid worst case loading done, but animation has to complete yet another cycle13:50
Sfiet_Konstantinstates is my friend13:51
Sfiet_Konstantinqwazix: sorry to disturb, sledges helped13:51
qwazixno prob :)13:52
fk_lxhello13:53
Sfiet_Konstantinmorning fk_lx13:57
fk_lxSfiet_Konstantin: hello13:59
Morpog_N9Sfiet_Konstantin, why didn't you ask me? I made the spinner spec14:00
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sledgesno worries Morpog_N9 , at least now our whole lot is on the same page of intepreting the spec ;)14:27
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Morpog_N9:)14:35
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Sfiet_KonstantinMorpog_N9: sorry :$14:42
Sfiet_Konstantinso ... spinner kinda works14:42
Sfiet_Konstantinbut is weired14:42
Morpog_N9well, needs to look like the animated gif Sfiet_Konstantin14:46
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Morpog_N9http://play.qwazix.com/grog/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/example.gif14:48
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Sfiet_Konstantinspinner is born \o/15:49
locusfnice15:51
locusfdidn't take long :)15:52
faenil:)15:54
sledges\o\15:54
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Sfiet_Konstantinwill push soon15:56
Sfiet_Konstantinbut it do not implement everything yet15:56
Sfiet_Konstantinsome stuff, not everything15:56
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sledgesAPI-wise I gather ;)16:00
sledges?16:00
Sfiet_Konstantinhttps://github.com/nemomobile/qtquickcontrols-nemo/pull/1216:05
Sfiet_Konstantinit is rather a quick hack16:05
Sfiet_Konstantinfeel free to test16:05
Sfiet_Konstantinthe only painful thing is that right now: when you interrupt the animation, it might stay with 2 dots being light blue and then start transitionning to invisible state16:05
Sfiet_Konstantininstead of going to a "one blue dot" before being invisible16:06
sledgeswhy do you call it a quick hack, first skim through lgtm16:06
Sfiet_Konstantinlook at the issue I raise16:07
Sfiet_Konstantinit is because the "stop" stops the animation in a transitionning state16:07
Sfiet_Konstantinwhile I would prefer it to run to the end16:07
Sfiet_Konstantinthere is a property, but if you do that, the fade will start while the dot is still moving16:07
Sfiet_Konstantintransition don't wait for animation to end16:07
Sfiet_Konstantinso ...16:07
sledgesi liked how you parametrised all constants, how it should be ;)16:07
Sfiet_Konstantin:)16:08
faenil:)16:08
Sfiet_Konstantinso you can set a theme for debugging purpose, with veeery slow animations16:08
sledgesi mean, margins, radiuses etc16:08
Sfiet_Konstantin:)16:09
Sfiet_KonstantinI could even parameterize the number of dots16:09
Sfiet_Konstantin...16:09
Sfiet_Konstantinna16:09
Sfiet_Konstantin:D16:09
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sledgesnah, that's hardcoded now :D16:09
sledgesi wouldn't call it quick hack, because to fix that issue spinner doesn't have to be rewritten from scratch ;)16:09
Sfiet_KonstantinI like how it is going16:10
sledgesunless you said it? :DD16:10
Sfiet_Konstantinthe UI is being more and more beautiful16:10
Sfiet_Konstantinna, no need of rewrite indeed :D16:10
Sfiet_Konstantinmaybe one day we will be able to hack something16:10
Sfiet_Konstantinlike the homescreen ?16:10
Sfiet_Konstantinbut right now, faenil is at Jolla ...16:10
Sfiet_Konstantinstill I wonder how can Sailfish and Nemo UI cross breed16:11
Sfiet_Konstantinconsidering giving nemo UI to my GF for example, since the sailfish swipes and all looks quite strange16:11
faenil\o/16:11
Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil, sledges and all, any news about the handling of u ?16:13
Sfiet_Konstantinshould I start digging into QPA ?16:13
faenilnope16:13
faenilno news16:13
sledgesMorpog_N9_ tried to run huge VMs16:13
sledgesbut surely we don't have any infra yet16:13
sledgesthat would be great Sfiet_Konstantin16:14
Sfiet_Konstantinwhat is the select roller ?16:14
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: the infra can be a laptop with Qt 5 ?16:14
Sfiet_KonstantinI'm building all the QQCn with a desktop Qt516:14
Sfiet_Konstantinhum ... maybe I should start hacking the switch16:15
sledgesSfiet_Konstantin: sorry infra was the wrong word: we haven't tried any facilities for scaling as such, only brainstorming (like shipping icons as SVGs and performing conversion on-device)16:18
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: no SVG icons plz :(16:19
Sfiet_Konstantinor maybe yes16:19
Sfiet_Konstantinbut hum16:19
Sfiet_Konstantin...16:19
sledgesconversion -> png16:19
Sfiet_Konstantinok16:19
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Sfiet_KonstantinI'm more thinking about stuff like margins / font scaling16:19
sledgesi find that uber innovative if we pull this off16:19
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sledgesyes, but both approaches will need the u ;)16:19
Sfiet_KonstantinI'm thinking about something wrong in this approach16:20
Sfiet_Konstantinif we have a laptop, we will have huge UI components dont we ?16:20
Morpog_N9_huge VMs? where? wo? what?16:20
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Morpog_N9_ah, custom resolution16:22
sledgesyes16:22
sledges(to both :))16:22
Sfiet_Konstantincloning QtCore ...16:29
sledges8)16:37
Morpog_N9_Sfiet_Konstantin, no we won't have huge stuff on a laptop16:38
Morpog_N9_reread qwazix blog entry16:38
sledgeshumm16:40
sledgesi haven't read his blog entry16:40
sledgesbut I just got a new laptop16:40
sledgeswhere resolution is so high, that my eyes are about to leak out16:40
sledges:D16:40
Morpog_N9_go read it :D16:41
stephgI didn't know qwazix was from .gr16:41
faenilyep16:42
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faenilmichalis, or whatever :D16:42
sledgesnemo international ;)16:42
faenil:)16:42
sledgesVenemo wrote: PS. Since last Devaamo, Micheal /qwazix/ is also known as Michalis (that is how his name sounds nicely in the Greek language).16:42
Sfiet_Konstantinwow16:45
Sfiet_Konstantinwho wants a patched Qt ?16:45
Sfiet_KonstantinI think Stskeeps won't like it :(16:45
Stskeepswhat are you guys breaking16:45
sledges(*Michael that is ;P)16:45
sledgesSfiet_Konstantin: u - so fast? :))16:45
Sfiet_KonstantinStskeeps: Qt Gui in general16:46
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: na, just reading some highdpi patches in an experimental QtBase branch16:46
Sfiet_Konstantinlooks not nice16:46
sledgeshmmm, too much bound to certain DPIs :/16:46
Sfiet_Konstantinmaybe actually it is merged16:46
sledgeswrong from beginning ;) and we know what follows such scenarios16:46
sledgesMorpog_N9_: http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=456 ?16:51
Morpog_N9_sledges, yep16:52
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sledgesnice, just finished reading :)16:55
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qwazixan article covering pretty much the same ground http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?181616:59
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Sfiet_KonstantinI'm wondering if I can enable it with dpi17:12
Sfiet_Konstantin...17:12
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Sfiet_Konstantinbbl17:15
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DarkSimSfiet_Konstantin, do you have any screenshots of the new Nemo UI?18:48
DarkSimI was shown it a few months ago18:49
sledgesDarkSim: twitter.com/nemomobile18:49
sledgesalso https://twitter.com/Morpog/media18:50
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