Wednesday, 2013-12-11

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niqtmorning08:14
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stephgmorning08:15
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xavinuxgood morning people08:25
stephgyou're up early xavinux08:26
xavinuxyes,, woking on a databases backup at my work...08:26
stephgah08:27
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sledgesmorni08:30
faenilo/ morning08:31
xavinuxgood morning08:32
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sledgesfaenil: could you change the topic to: Welcome to Nemo Mobile! | Porting to other devices? Join #nemomobile-porters | This channel is logged, view them at http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23nemomobile/latest.log.html | Wiki: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo08:37
faenilreally? new channel?08:37
sledgesi see you didnt check backlog ;)08:38
faenilnope :/08:38
sledgesis not long :)08:39
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faenilsledges, yeah well there's just your PSA? :)08:40
faenilor was there a discussion with someone?08:40
faenilwhat happened :D08:40
sledgesjust above was discussion08:41
faenilsledges, I see no discussion :/08:43
sledgeshttp://www.merproject.org/logs/%23nemomobile/%23nemomobile.2013-12-10.log.html#t2013-12-10T15:41:0708:43
sledgesstarting there08:43
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faenilsledges, yes I read it, but I see no *discussion*08:47
faeniljust you and tbr saying "let's move this"08:47
faenilthen you guys were waiting for Stskeeps *weight in* which never happened08:47
faeniland then there was PSA08:47
Stskeepsi weighed in, i think it makes sense08:48
faenilStskeeps, ah :/ I don't see it on logs08:48
Stskeepsas to make sure work continue working nicely08:48
Stskeepsyeah, sledges badgered me in /msg08:48
faenileh08:48
sledgessee whos founder of that channel08:48
Stskeepsas i wasn't paying attention here08:48
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sledgesfaenil: Stskeeps was the first to comment, not me or tbr08:49
sledgesto raise this issue08:49
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Morpog_N9yeah since porters flooded here it was a mess in here08:55
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faenilMorpog_N9, not that this channel is *that* active09:03
faenilbut anyway09:03
*** faenil changes topic to "Welcome to Nemo Mobile! | Porting to other devices? Join #nemomobile-porters | This channel is logged, view them at http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23nemomobile/latest.log.html | Wiki: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo"09:03
sledgesalso #sailfishos was bit floody, and what they are discussing is essentially nemo ha+mw adaptation (statefs e.g.) for n9, called sailfish on n909:04
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sledgesso of you see topic of -porters, should be a propet place to keep track of nemo et al. adaptation progress, on n9 and future libhybris09:06
sledges(/me only today noticed that thp has links to *cm* repos which have basic instructions on nemo on n7 etc)09:07
sledges(hss links on his youtube vid in description)09:07
smokexon N7? :D09:07
smokexif N7 can then C7 should be able to as well09:08
sledgesnexus709:08
smokexoh ok09:08
sledgeshave you seen that vid smokex ?09:09
sledgesi'll paste it on #nemomobile-porters :)09:09
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vakkovok, got wayland on n900 by removing the problem line (as stskeeps suggested...) it's just an assert that breaks because it's not equal to 0 on the n900. I got the application list but without icons or theme09:24
vakkovoh shit ... failed to create display.. that's what niqt said ;d09:25
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vakkovreally have to buy my own n900 so i don't edit a line a day ..09:26
sledgesvakkov: lets cont discussing this in the porters room09:27
niqtvakkov I can help you in the Christmas holidays09:29
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Morpog_N9 /j #nemomobile-porters09:55
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MFaro-Tusinostskeeps: Nemo doesn't charge the N9/50 correct?13:21
Stskeepsno clue13:21
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alteregoMFaro-Tusino: did last time I used it, but that was a long time ago ..13:26
MFaro-Tusinoalterego: wouldn't happen to know the packages responsible for handling it would you? I know in harmattan its bme but that is Nokia and not OSS13:29
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StskeepsMFaro-Tusino: bme13:30
alteregoMFaro-Tusino: ^ and yes, not open source but binary afair.13:33
alteregoI think the only thing missing last time I checked was some kind of battery indication.13:34
Sfiet_Konstantinqwazix: here ?13:34
Sfiet_Konstantinmorning guys !13:34
MFaro-TusinoSfiet_Konstantin: \o13:34
Sfiet_Konstantinhello MFaro-Tusino13:34
Sfiet_Konstantinso, sailfish loaded on your N9 ?13:35
Sfiet_Konstantinhow is it behaving ? lagging ?13:35
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Sfiet_Konstantinlocusf, Morpog_Mobile, qwazix friendly warning: I'm going to do the initial implementation of u as "hardcoded" in theme13:37
MFaro-TusinoIts great perfomance wise13:38
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Sfiet_Konstantinwill compute u in Theme object and propagate it to other objects sotirng theme13:39
Sfiet_KonstantinMFaro-Tusino: great :)13:39
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locusfSfiet_Konstantin: okay13:43
Sfiet_Konstantinlocusf: because I believe that this needs to be done ...13:43
locusfSfiet_Konstantin: yeah go for it13:44
Sfiet_Konstantindamn, cannot find the u article again13:45
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Sfiet_Konstantinfound it13:47
Sfiet_Konstantin... now how to implement viewing distance :/13:47
qwazixSfiet_Konstantin, here.13:49
Sfiet_Konstantinqwazix: right now, implemnenting reference13:49
Sfiet_Konstantinwill see afterwards13:49
qwazixSfiet_Konstantin, there's a friendly guide at the end of article for viewing distance13:49
Sfiet_Konstantinqwazix: yes, but as I'm defining u as a static constant, I don't know how to implement viewing distance13:50
Sfiet_Konstantinwill see13:50
qwazixyou don't have to, just do the the math by hand for the N9 for now13:50
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qwazix(which is u=1 btw)13:51
Sfiet_Konstantinqwazix: well, how do I check if u works actually13:52
Sfiet_Konstantinright now, I'm using a laptop, I should have a different u than on N913:52
Sfiet_KonstantinI will already implement the formula13:53
qwazixhow far do you sit from your screen?13:53
Sfiet_Konstantinqwazix: 50cm13:53
Sfiet_Konstantinqwazix: na, the problem is not about hardcoding u, it is about computing it on the fly, so we should have different values on N9 and laptop13:54
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qwazixon the fly? That would be cool, but setting u in the kickstart was what I was thinking13:55
Sfiet_Konstantinqwazix: for generated icons, ok13:57
Sfiet_Konstantinbut for non-icon things I can do on the fly13:57
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Sfiet_Konstantinthink about a config file that have viewing distance and I read it and it is all done13:57
Sfiet_Konstantin:)13:57
Sfiet_Konstantinright now I hard code it, but it can be _easily_ replaced by a config file13:58
qwazixor open the front camera and measure it :P13:58
Sfiet_Konstantinqwazix: lol13:58
Sfiet_Konstantinno13:59
Sfiet_Konstantinqwazix: I only need to compute the nb of pixles per mm13:59
Sfiet_Konstantineasy13:59
qwazixyep, this approach is good14:00
Sfiet_Konstantinhow to convert dot per inch to px per mm ?14:01
Sfiet_Konstantin:D14:01
qwazixdpi/25.314:02
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Sfiet_Konstantinu partially implemented :)14:45
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sledges\u/15:02
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locusfalready :)?15:04
sledgesalready almost :))15:04
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Sfiet_Konstantinna15:12
Sfiet_Konstantinactually not really15:12
Sfiet_Konstantinsoon15:12
Sfiet_KonstantinI'm even implementing live u switching15:12
Sfiet_Konstantin(I code viewing distance in theme file :D)15:13
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Sfiet_Konstantinhum ...15:18
Sfiet_Konstantinactually no15:18
Sfiet_Konstantinit is far from completion, I'm struggling with some stuff15:18
Sfiet_Konstantinlet's not code viewing distance in theme file actually :/15:20
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Sfiet_Konstantinguys ? where is the triangle shaped indicator for lists ?15:46
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sledgesSfiet_Konstantin: https://github.com/qwazix/glacier-controls-spec/blob/master/listview/listview-icon-arrow.png15:51
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: thx15:52
Sfiet_Konstantinmy friend close to finished the listitem we will push soon15:53
Sfiet_Konstantinwe are closing our coding session now15:53
sledgesSfiet_Konstantin: out of convenience did you(r friend) replace the ad-hoc frontpage with that new list in the glacier gallery?15:54
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: yep, that's what we have done to test the component :)15:54
sledges\o/15:54
* sledges arms his n9 for testing15:54
sledges(multiple puns intended)15:54
Sfiet_Konstantin:D15:55
sledgesdoes you friend have a twitter handle? ;)15:55
Sfiet_Konstantinright now, personnal project, I want to code a Qt OpenGL game like super Hexagon and Torus Trooper15:55
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: nope15:55
Sfiet_Konstantingame for desktop and Sailfish of cause :)15:56
Sfiet_Konstantin(and Nemo)15:56
Sfiet_Konstantinnever forget Nemo :)15:56
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sledges\o faenil16:13
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locusfheya16:17
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VenemoStskeeps: do you think it would be possible to get Nemo on the Geeksphone device?19:55
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StskeepsVenemo: which one20:01
VenemoStskeeps: both, but I'm more interested at the peak at the moment20:02
Stskeepsmoment20:02
Venemowhen I get the jolla I will "sacrifice" the peak for the greater good of nemo :)20:03
StskeepsVenemo: yes20:03
Venemonice20:03
VenemoI guess it'd be libhybris, right?20:04
StskeepsVenemo: make sure you have adb access and kernel, plus ability to fastboot oem unlock20:04
VenemoI think I have adb access, kernel should be somewhere in the downloaded images, but I dunno what ability to fastboot oem unlock means20:05
Venemothe phone I think has an unlocked bootloader, but I'm not very familiar with it20:06
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Stskeepsok20:10
Stskeepssounds reasonable as a nemo target20:10
* lpotter waits for someone to put nemomobile ui on jolla phone20:14
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Morpog_MobileLpotter, locusf did20:15
locusffor a moment :)20:16
Morpog_MobileCould we boot nemomobile from sdcard?20:16
locusfeverything is so hazy with Jolla hackability but I guess everything is possible20:17
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lpotterthat might take a change in the boot loader20:27
vgradelpotter: is bootloader open?20:32
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Stskeepsvgrade: standard oem unlock, but if you break something, you get to keep both pieces20:33
Stskeepsthere's a balance between unlock and data protection of user's data if a device lock is enabled20:33
vgradeStskeeps: cool,20:34
vgrademoves to #nemomobile-porters20:35
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faenilQt5.2 release tomorrow! \o/21:21
Venemofaenil: great :)21:23
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faenilVenemo, unless they find some error while doing the last steps, that is21:26
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Venemofaenil: still, it's great progress21:26
faenilyeah21:27
sledgesany news on qqc front on 5.2?21:28
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faenilsledges, haven't checked myself, they added busyindicator and switch afair21:29
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sledgesi remember you were displease with toolbar-per-page current implementation faenil21:57
faenilsledges, yes, well there is *no* implementation21:58
faenil(in qqc)21:58
sledgesyeap ;)22:00
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* sledges is eating pasta all'arrabiata ;)22:02
sledgeshow the food in .fi faenil ?22:02
faenilsledges, well.....22:02
faenilI cook a lot of pasta22:02
sledges*g*22:02
faenilmade pizza twice as well :D22:02
sledgesyourself :)22:02
sledgeswell but maybe you tried local specialties22:03
faenilsledges, is there any? xD22:04
specialfinnish delicacies, such as.. beer?22:04
merlin1991reindeer?22:04
sledgesfinlandia ;D22:05
faenilmerlin1991, ah reindeer, right! haven't tasted yet, have to see if I have some money left and compensate!22:05
* merlin1991 had reindeer all the way around oulu22:05
merlin1991I liked it :D22:05
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specialI had some very good reindeer soup in norway22:05
merlin1991*all the way UP around ...*22:05
merlin1991faenil: how often were you at some ABC already?22:07
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faenilmerlin1991, what's ABC?22:15
faenil:D22:15
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merlin1991o_O22:16
faenilmerlin1991, we work here, day and night :P22:16
faenilbut is that something I should visit soon? :D :D22:17
merlin1991nah22:17
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merlin1991it's I think the biggest brand of highway restaurants22:17
faenilah22:17
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merlin1991in the week I've been to in finland this year I had lunch there 3 times :D22:18
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faenil:)22:19
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