Monday, 2013-12-16

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situAnyone using https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugin-thumbnailer/ in his app ?06:40
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faenilo//07:26
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niqtmorning07:55
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stephgning!07:58
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merlin1991morning :)09:14
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faenilmerlin1991, DocScrutinizer05 morning :)10:14
DocScrutinizer05o/10:15
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merlin1991hm when I edit nemo-keyboard.qml I probably have to restart the maliit server10:33
merlin1991but how? systemctl --all does not list it as a running unit10:33
faenilmerlin1991, I'm quite sure there is maliit-server.service10:34
faenillook in /usr/lib/systemd/user/10:34
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merlin1991yeah it's there, but why isn't it in the systemctl list?10:35
faenildon't know, never used the list command :D10:35
faenilmerlin1991, try systemctl-user --al ?10:36
faenil--all10:36
merlin1991ah damn10:36
merlin1991so there is a specific tool for the user services10:36
faenilmerlin1991, :)10:36
faenilyes there is system session and user session10:36
merlin1991btw is there any package in nemo that provides less?10:37
merlin1991I'm getting tired of having stuff piped into more10:37
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tbrmerlin1991: heh, same thought, I'll put it on the list for community repo if it doesn't show up elsewhere10:38
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merlin1991okay it is not nemo-keyboard.qml that is the reason for the rotation10:53
sledgeshorning10:55
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valdur55merlin1991: thinking about WIFI password rotation issue?11:01
sledgesMorpog_Mobile: https://github.com/nemomobile/qtquickcontrols-nemo/pull/15#discussion_r8183183 ?11:02
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merlin1991valdur55: thinking about why on the vm the keyboard slides in like this: http://cdnm.at/~christian/nemo/keyboard.png11:04
merlin1991but I just can't find the reason why11:05
sledgesmerlin1991: it's most likely because vm reports default orientation opposite that of n9/5011:06
merlin1991I'm trying to trace down how "orientation" enters the system and how it is used to render the keyboard in the end11:07
sledges(you can tell by how nemo splashscreen looks like)11:07
merlin1991because it's only the rotation of the keyboard that is broken11:07
sledgeshowever, it affects apps correctly, because of how environment setup iirc. try playing with /var/lib/environment/*/*vm*11:07
merlin1991because to me it looks like the keyboard itself is the portrait layout, the reserved space seems to be ok too, it's only the rotation of the keyboard "window" the is of11:09
merlin1991*off*11:09
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merlin1991*that is off*11:09
merlin1991typo day11:09
* sledges nods11:10
merlin1991 /var/lib/environment/* has nothing that looks like it affects orientation11:11
sledgessomething _Y ?11:11
merlin1991ah true there is QT_COMPOSITOR_NEGATE_INVERTED_Y11:12
sledges(we neglected this known issue, because you have keyboard on VM anyway ;))11:12
sledgeshmm, that one looks like only vertical flip11:13
merlin1991yep11:13
merlin1991no other _Y around11:13
valdur55It is also in nemo nemo/61-nemo-mobile-hw-wayland.conf:QT_COMPOSITOR_NEGATE_INVERTED_Y=111:13
merlin1991btw which service do I restart to bring changes there into effect?11:15
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sledgestry along the lines of user-session11:16
valdur55interesting: PRE_USER_SESSION_DISPLAY_OPTIONS=-displayX 187 -displayY -187 -displayRotation -9011:17
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faenilinverted_y is not useful for this11:17
faeniland pre_user_session most likely not useful11:18
faenilI never really understood what that is for though11:18
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sledgeswhich apps rotate in nemo? only fingerterm and homescreen?11:22
sledgesmerlin1991: valdur55: has anyone of you got nemo on n9/950 now?11:23
sledgesi have an explanation about keyboard :)11:23
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merlin1991didn't find the time to install on n9/n95011:23
sledgesi think you just found a keyboard rotation bug (does not depend on device)11:24
Zotgedhi11:24
valdur55sledges: i am just reinstalling vgrade's jolla r211:24
sledgeshi Zotged11:24
valdur55so. it might count :)11:24
MFaro-Tusinovaldur55: why not r3?11:24
ZotgedI seem to have run into some trouble while installing ubiboot and all the alternative oses on N9 while following the wiki article here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Ubiboot11:24
valdur55MFaro-Tusino: to lazy for downloading it.11:25
merlin1991hm so what did I find exactly? :D11:25
sledgesvaldur55: merlin1991: well if you had nemo@n9/50 you would understand the issue better, but i'll try to explain as clearly as possible11:25
merlin1991how much free space do I need on the n9 to install? :D11:25
sledges~2GB?11:25
sledgeson your MyDocs11:26
sledgesZotged: tell us everything :)11:26
merlin1991hm still 8.5 free so I guess I'm good to go11:26
merlin1991but anyways please explain :)11:26
valdur55sledges: i am a big ear :)11:26
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ZotgedI'm running windows 7 with ext2 file system drivers. I've gone through all the steps on the wiki so far up until to flashing nemo kernel11:26
Zotgedwhich starts the repartitioning11:26
Zotged...which failed.11:26
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sledgesZotged: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Troubleshooting_211:27
Zotgednow I can't seem to be able to telnet to the device with putty to debug it11:27
ZotgedI found the debugging instructions here11:27
Zotgedhttps://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#FATAL:_Re-partitioning_failed.21_You_might_be_in_trouble.2111:27
merlin1991damn forgot I'm still in closed mode, don't really want todo the whole dance11:27
Zotgedyes, telnet doesn't connect11:27
Zotgedany ideas?11:28
valdur55merlin1991: you must not to do back-to-back flashing... You just need delete .accounts, .aegis , and .activesync folder11:28
valdur55And overwrite applauncher libary with patched version.11:29
Zotgedshould I just be able to telnet to 192.168.2.15:23?11:29
MFaro-Tusinosledges: I can go to Nemo on N950 if you like me to help you bug fix?11:29
merlin1991valdur55: which in itself already is quite a dance if you include readding the accounts again ..11:29
valdur55merlin1991: No. you can use backup utility for that.11:30
sledgesVKB bug: when you hold N9/950 in landscape, nemo blue (landscape) splash looks fine. It is however shrunk to portrait on VM. Means that VM is in landscape, even though it looks portrait Nemo scale pretty nicely hehe: That's why all apps look ok. But on N9/950, VKB shows only in portrait (because we haven't made any VKB-able apps rotateable yet).11:30
valdur55you make restore point before flashing :)11:30
sledgesso if you make an app (like qmlmessages) rotate to landscape on N9/950 (not yet implemented), you will see vkb sliding still from the portrait's bottom (hence on the side, like in VM now)11:31
sledgesZotged: surely in putty you set it to telnet? those wiki instructions also say what to do if you cannot telnet ;)11:32
sledgesMFaro-Tusino: thanks, i got one here too, just wanted fellows to imagine the rotaty situation a bit better11:33
MFaro-TusinoAll good :)11:34
merlin1991sledges: so you're saying I'm in fake portrait that is actually landscape as far as the system info goes, now I come back to my inital question where does this information enter the system?11:34
Zotgedso my next step is to flash the device again with: flasher -k zImage_2.6.32.54-ubiboot-02_301013 -l -b11:35
valdur55was the charging bug also in nemo?11:36
sledgesmerlin1991: correct. Now it comes from the compositor via qml. examples: https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick-colorful-home/pull/30/files#diff-7ec3c68a81efff79b6ca22ac1f1eabbaR3411:36
sledgesand https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick-colorful-home/pull/30/files#diff-e4cee053117dccd9f131dd5d7e9ddfd0R3811:36
Zotgedam I supposed to shut down the device before this? I'm still in the screen that says that partitioning failed, telnet into the device11:37
Zotgedfeels like the second I turn it off now it's bricked11:37
sledgesZotged: yes, but this is not permanent flashing, only for that boot session, so harmless otherwise11:37
sledgesZotged: it won't be bricked11:37
sledges(PS: is your static IP address correctly setup under you win7 to the phone via usb?)11:38
sledges(you should be able to telnet nevertheless)11:38
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Zotgedto recap: N9, partitioning failed on nemo install, can't telnet11:40
Zotgedso my next step is to flash the device again with: flasher -k zImage_2.6.32.54-ubiboot-02_301013 -l -b11:40
Zotgedam I supposed to shut down the device before this? I'm still in the screen that says that partitioning failed, telnet into the device11:40
Zotgedlag just killed my session.11:40
sledgesZotged: i understand where you are11:40
sledgesah ok11:40
sledgesis your static IP address correctly setup under you win7 to the phone via usb?11:41
sledgescan you ping the phone?11:41
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ZotgedI can't, no11:41
sledgesthose are the bits to try before you resort to reboot11:41
sledgesso11:41
Zotgedyes that makes sense11:41
sledgesyou need set your usb network connection to 192.168.1.1411:42
sledgeson your PC11:42
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ZotgedI take this entry still applies although we're not dealing with N90011:44
Zotgedhttp://wiki.maemo.org/N900_USB_networking#Windows11:44
merlin1991hm I still don't understand though how/where the maliit window is defined/rotated11:44
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sledgesZotged: i can only hope the driver will be compatible, but worth a shot11:45
sandy_lockeo/ peops11:45
Zotgedis there anything preferable?11:46
Zotgedor how should I go about this?11:46
sledgesZotged: how are you going to partition when you got no fdisk under windows ?11:46
sledgesZotged: (or you use Cygwin)11:46
merlin1991Zotged: you can grab the n9 rdnis driver from the nokia qt sdk11:46
sandy_lockesledges: I want to begin developing in Qt, you have some links to get a starting point ?11:46
sledgesmerlin1991: i think maliit never rotates, that's what needs to be implemented11:46
sledgessandy_locke: hello and welcome back :) http://qmlbook.org/11:46
sandy_lockeo/ :)11:47
sandy_lockeyeah long time no see11:47
sandy_lockethx for the link11:47
sledgesZotged: (now i understand why you better want to telnet rather than reboot and export ;))11:47
sledgesi just discovered this book myself :)11:47
sandy_lockeyou just googled it ? ^^11:47
sledgesLars Knoll tweeted11:48
sandy_lockeah11:48
sandy_lockewhere are we at with nemo ?11:48
sledgesswitch components nearing finish11:48
sandy_lockeI saw coderus is now developing with you guys ?11:48
sledgesGlacier UI gallery app is now on desktop by default11:48
Zotgedthis is getting fairly troublesome. is there any way to just skip installing nemo at this point and just flash ubiboot and use android and firefox os?11:49
sandy_locke:D11:49
sledgesOpenSans is now 99% in the gallery (looks awesome, just needs to be made thing)11:49
sledges*thin11:49
Zotgedor have I done something irreversible by taking these steps with nemo already11:49
sledgesZotged: your partitions have started to be rearranged, so you need to see what's the status11:49
sandy_lockeneed to zyp my n9 then11:49
sledgesZotged: you should however be able to boot to harmattan and fix partitions from there11:50
sledgessandy_locke: coderus implemented battery status plugin on n9 \o/11:50
merlin1991sledges: maliit does have some handling for rotation though: https://github.com/maliit/plugins/blob/master/nemo-keyboard/nemo-keyboard.qml#L7411:50
sledgesmerlin1991: im sure it does, it just wouldn't rotate on nemo, needs to tie itself together11:50
sandy_lockesledges: with our mockups ? or just a status helper ?11:51
sledgessandy_locke: just middleware11:51
sledgesbut that's essential to begin with :)11:51
sandy_lockeok, but we see battery status on screen ?11:51
sledgesin command line probably11:51
sledgesit's nearing finish11:51
sledgeshe did it over the weekend ;)11:52
sandy_lockesweet :)11:52
sandy_lockeanyhow it's good news :)11:52
sledgessandy_locke: we also started to put bugzilla to good use: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/buglist.cgi?chfieldto=Now&query_format=advanced&chfieldfrom=2013-11-18&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED11:53
sledgesand homescreen freezing bug is fixed quite a while ago, in case you were absent for that long :D11:54
sandy_locke\o/11:54
sandy_lockeI was, I was11:54
faenilsledges, what was it in the end? changing event3 to event2?11:54
sledgeswas absent or present? :D11:54
sledgesfaenil: removing all eventX and leave them for autodetect11:55
faenil:/ ok11:55
sledgesfaenil: input devices get assigned different dev nodes on each boot randomly11:55
faenilyes11:55
faenilI always wondered why it was fixed on one11:55
faenilbut didn't know there was an autodetect mode11:55
faenilkeyboard doesn't work if you don't specify the eventX11:56
sledgesbecause it always worked, until day X came and something changed in boot process11:56
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sledgesand started failing more than working11:56
sledgesn950 keyboard?11:56
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faenilyes11:56
sledgesalso11:56
sledgesQPA has always been autodetecting11:57
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sledgesbut somebody put event3 on lipstick start arguments11:57
sledgesso when touchscreen is actually event311:57
sledgeswe get double events11:57
sledgesotherwise lipstick was just being 'driven' by accelerometer probably :D11:58
sledgesdouble events freeze homescreen etc11:58
faenilsledges, could you check if it was me?11:58
faenilevent3 was kbd afaik11:58
w00ti'd be very surprised about that, given it was passing the input to evdevtouch11:59
sledgesw00t: about what?11:59
w00tif event3 was keyboard related11:59
sandy_lockesledges: when zypper ref I get : bad attach point : http://repo.merproject.org/obs/nemo:/devel:/hw:/ti:/omap3:/n9xx-common/latest_armv7hl11:59
sandy_locke?11:59
faenilw00t, ah then I never committed my kdb stuff11:59
sledgesi don't know about n950, but n9 gets eventX shuffled on every bood11:59
faenilevdevkeyboard:something was what I thought I added, but if it's not there I just forgot it in the stack of TODO :)12:00
sledgesfaenil: it was Aard: https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-configs-n950-n9/commit/7560cd91447a126fa5e8aa0fd8069fd4a149d801#diff-6a697250a95280521d3f71e57982818cR612:00
sledgessandy_locke: internet alive?12:00
sandy_lockeI'll check12:01
faenilsledges, is physical kbd working on n950 atm in Nemo?12:01
sledgesfaenil: i don't have 95012:01
faenilok12:01
sledgesdidn't hear complaints12:01
sandy_lockeyes12:01
sledgessandy_locke: ping repo.merproject.org12:02
faenilokay, then something changed indeed12:02
sledgesQPA got smarter, and detects input devices as it needs i guess12:02
Zotgedsledges: I installed nokia usb rndis drivers, set my static ip to 192.168.1.14 on windows. the connection is enabled (speed 425.9mbps, so seems like it works)12:02
sandy_lockeit works sledges12:02
sledgesas now config looks like this: https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-configs-n950-n9/commit/e94ca784b85e9354269a214a3e1d4b27bfd52ca412:02
Zotgedstill can't telnet to 192.168.2.15:2312:02
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sledgesZotged: ping ?12:02
Zotgeddoesn't ping12:02
ZotgedI'll swim through the network settings once more12:03
sledgesZotged: ok, check netmask12:03
Zotged255.255.255.012:03
sledgesZotged: at any rate, you can reboot, and from harmattan ssh fine and do fdisk etc12:03
Zotgedso I could just shut down the device with the power button, turn it on again and harmattan should boot just fine? from there I could use the N9 terminal as super user and run fdisk and whatnot?12:04
sledgesZotged: correct. no need to shutdown, just unplug usb cable and wait12:04
sledgesit will boot to harmattan12:04
Zotgedalso: if it doesn't boot can I still, say, flash the device with clean harmattan image and start all over?12:04
Zotgedoh, right12:05
Zotgedsounds reassuring12:05
Zotgedstill I'd like to figure out what's blocking telnet.12:05
sledgesZotged: if harmattan doesn't boot, you can always boot back to this state (installing linux VM on your host would solve most problems)12:05
sledgesZotged: we had issues on mac12:05
sledgesso12:05
sledges;)12:05
sandy_lockesledges: the ping respond ok12:05
sledgessandy_locke: i read you, booting half-dead n9 myself now ;)12:06
sandy_lockeah :)12:06
sandy_lockesorry12:06
sandy_lockethx12:06
Zotgedokay thanks a lot sledges12:06
sledgesZotged: have fu12:06
sledgesn12:06
Zotgedthis is never fun until it works12:07
Zotgedbefore that it's nerve wrecking12:07
sledges;D12:07
sledgesthat's why we are here12:07
sledgesto make it a bit of fun :))12:07
Zotgedwell harmattan didn't boot, it had the Nokia text there for a while and then just black screen12:07
sledgesZotged: reboot and retry12:08
ZotgedI suppose I don't need to hold volume buttons? do I?12:08
sledgesno *g*12:08
Zotgedstill black12:09
Zotgedhmm.12:09
sledgesafter reboot?12:09
sledgesthen you need to follow wiki12:09
sledgesinstall ubuntu or something on your vm, if you don't want to reflash but save current effort you done so far12:10
MFaro-TusinoI still think we should make the Windows/Mac guides take advamtage of chroot12:10
MFaro-TusinoI did the whole process on N950 the other day12:11
sledgesMFaro-Tusino: mer sdk you mean?12:11
MFaro-Tusinono on device12:11
MFaro-Tusinoso yo flash the moslo, let it repartition12:11
MFaro-Tusinothen in Harmattan, you use chroot and mount the nemo Alt_OS to it12:12
MFaro-Tusinowget the nemo image (or transfer to mass storage) and tar it onto mounted Nemo Alt_OS12:12
MFaro-Tusinothen umount and reboot12:12
valdur55don't forget to use sync :)12:12
sledgesMFaro-Tusino: +1, but chroot not needed ?:)12:13
MFaro-Tusinovaldur55: I never sync lol12:13
MFaro-Tusinosledges, well its not, but I found less issues happened12:13
sledgeschroot to where?12:13
sledgesAlt_OS is empty initially12:14
MFaro-Tusinoyeah, chroot came for subsequent mounts12:14
MFaro-Tusinoapologies12:14
sledgesa ok12:14
sledgesyes agree on approach12:14
* MFaro-Tusino has too much going on in his head to have one solid train of thought12:15
sledgesO_o12:15
MFaro-TusinoI hear coderus is getting charging working12:16
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DocScrutinizer05shouldn't be too hard, given it's using a bq2415x12:23
valdur55Interesting... "Invalid phone number"  notifiation was rightly rotated.12:24
DocScrutinizer05for which we got charging working ~3 years ago12:24
Hurrianiirc he said it does work, bme just isn't reporting to userland12:25
DocScrutinizer05with a silly 10liner shellscript12:25
DocScrutinizer05bme is braindamaged cruft12:26
sledgesvaldur55: notifications are part of homescreen12:27
valdur55And other notifications are working correctly in phone dialing :)12:28
valdur55made system upgrade for r2 :)12:28
valdur55just for fun.12:28
valdur55Hopefully.. it will boot after that...12:28
sledgesvaldur55: OT ;)12:28
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valdur55sledges: sorry :)12:29
sledgesnp, i just went to examine the nemo's notifications QML now you mentioned them ;))12:30
* sledges jokes12:30
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valdur55camera app apears also buggy because of this rotation bug.12:33
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sledges:{12:33
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valdur55woot. Camera APP control buttons are rotating.12:33
sledgesvaldur55: #nemomobile-porters pls12:34
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sledgesvaldur55: vkb on nemo rotation most probably has nothing to do with sailfish rotations, as they don't share implementation12:34
Zotgedsledges: is there a way for me to boot into the nemo kernel (that started partitioning) and to try usb networking again?12:34
ZotgedI'm not getting much results, actually even my virtualbox installation of debian is failing. it's not my day it seems12:35
sledgesZotged: yes, use ubiboot to boot to nemo12:35
sledgesand it will take you to moslo (the phantom repartitioner :))12:35
valdur55ok.  but sailfish vm have also issue with landscape only mode...  And i think... it is somehow connected with his keyboard issue..12:35
Zotgedso I flash ubiboot with: flasher -k zImage_2.6.32.54-ubiboot-02_301013 -l -b12:36
Zotgedthen I should get to usb networking but booting into nemo?12:36
Zotgedby*12:37
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sledgeshighly doubt, sailfish ui is closed source, and we don't believe they used the same rotation engine/semantics12:38
sledgesvaldur55: you might be right, but if not, we might be chasing ghosts ;)12:38
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sledgesZotged: i thought you already have ubiboot running on your phone12:39
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valdur55ok :D12:39
sledgesZotged: try this instead: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Single_Boot_by_Loading_The_Kernel_.28TRY_THIS_FIRST.2912:40
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sledges(good measure to try different bootloader, maybe telnet will be more friendly)12:41
Zotgedmanaged to telnet: /var/log/repartition.log doesn't exist12:44
sledgesvaldur55: s/chasing ghosts/chasing ghosts, instead of just recompiling nemo available UI source, debug and fix the thing. good to know how sailfish behaves, but you can say that on other channel, where audience is waiting for news too ;)12:45
sledgesZotged: great!! it's volatile so it's not there12:45
sledgesZotged: just follow the wiki now12:45
sledges(you can paste fdisk partition layout here)12:46
Zotgedhttp://pastebin.com/9PQwdMCE12:46
sledgesand that file is not of much help anyway12:46
sledgesZotged: nice! you are the first person with 64GB12:46
sledgesyou're of golden value to us :D12:46
Zotgedcool12:46
Zotgedlet's make me of some use then12:47
sledgesok, quit fdisk12:47
sledgestyp12:47
sledgestype12:47
sledgesmount /dev/mmcblk0p2 /mnt; ls /mnt12:48
sledgesdoes it look like harmattan?12:48
sledges(can it mount?)12:48
Zotgedmount: mounting /dev/mmcblk0p2 on /mnt failed: Input/output error12:48
Zotged1   2   3   4   5   6   7   u4  u512:48
sledgesO_o12:49
Zotgedwhen running: mount /dev/mmcblk0p2 /mnt; ls /mnt12:49
sledgeswhat with 1 2 3 4...?12:49
sledgesah12:49
sledgesthat's the output12:49
sledgesZotged: can we chat in pvt? there will be lots of commands to execute12:50
Zotgedsure12:50
sledgesi'll update summary on wiki later on12:50
sandy_lockesledges: any news ?12:51
sledgessandy_locke: n9 dead :{12:51
sandy_lockearf12:51
sledgesanyone else here with n9/50 wants to do zypper ref to help sandy_locke ?12:51
sledgessandy_locke: not completely, will ressurect with good charger ;)12:51
sandy_lockeah :)12:52
sandy_lockeit's ok, it's not a hurry anyway12:52
sandy_lockemaybe someone will come with a solution later in the day ;)12:52
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sledgesZotged's re-partitioning problem solved: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Nokia_N9_64GB13:44
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Morpog_N9sledges, how about having lipstick rotation values stored in gconf keys?14:25
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sledgeswhich values Morpog_N9 ?14:25
Morpog_N9x, y14:26
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* sledges is not rotary expert ^_^14:27
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Morpog_N9orientation angle14:29
Morpog_N9see lipstick-colorful-home commit from bzeller14:29
sledgesand how will that solve problems?14:29
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Morpog_N9easier to debug on new devices, no need for recompiling14:30
sledgesok14:30
sledgesbut do you agree, on vm we have twisted orientation ;)14:30
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sledges(pun also intended)14:30
Morpog_N9yeah sounds sane14:31
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Morpog_N9maybe i do a recompile with different values tonight14:32
Morpog_N9but onoy if I cannot pickup my Jolla :D14:32
Morpog_N9only14:32
sledges:D14:32
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sledgesI will pick up ;)14:32
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Morpog_N9ok screw it, next pickup station is 43km away14:36
sledges:D14:36
valdur55What is difference betwroon 20131205 and 20131206 version?14:37
Morpog_N9some hotfix iirc14:38
valdur55between *14:38
sledges1205 is broken14:38
sledges:D14:38
valdur55why? :D14:38
sledgesbecause it's only half of fix14:38
sledgeswhich fully landed in 120614:38
sledgeshttps://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Wayland.2FQt514:39
valdur55ok.  so..  if i untar 1205  and then do system update, then i will be in 1206 ? :D14:39
sledgesvaldur55: yes14:40
sledgesbut you can access it only via ssh14:40
valdur55sledges: no problem. i do chroot :D14:40
sledges:D14:40
sledgesxD14:40
valdur55Lazy....14:40
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Morpog_PChmmm, sledges have digged thru colorful-home, doesn't seem to be any setting for mainscreen orientation16:05
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sledgesMorpog_PC: and the links I pasted today?16:07
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sledgesmight be main orientation bits for whole system are in lipstick16:07
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Morpog_PClinks?16:10
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* Morpog_PC reads backlog16:10
sledgesto github commits16:10
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Morpog_PCsledges, already checked those16:11
sledgesoh ok16:11
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Morpog_PCnotofications, usb and volume16:11
Morpog_PCnot about mainwindow16:11
sledgesim more sure orientation of homescreen are in colorful-home16:11
sledgesbecause that's where launcher/switcher etc qmls are defined16:12
Morpog_PCmaybe it just needs it enabled for pager16:12
sledgespager?16:12
Morpog_PCpager.wml16:12
Morpog_PCqml16:12
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sledgesI'd look where launcher+switcher+feed are defined16:13
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Morpog_PCso mainscreen.qml16:18
sledgesyup16:18
* sledges is working, can't really start looking16:18
Morpog_PCor pager16:18
Morpog_PC:)16:18
sledgesmain*16:19
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* Morpog_PC Morpog needs to distract himself or he will drive 86km to get his Jolla16:19
sledgesunless pager means launch/switch/feed pages xD16:19
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sledgesMorpog_PC: depot may close ;)16:19
Morpog_PC20 o clock :)16:19
sledgesand what do you mean closest - is there a jolla waiting for you in every depot? :DD16:20
Morpog_PClol true :)16:20
Morpog_PChmm, if it's added in mainscreen, won't the changes in the overlays (volume, usb, etc.) be obsolete?16:22
Morpog_PCzbenjamin, you there?16:22
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sledgesoverlays? they are only in the works16:26
sledgesso you're free to play now Morpog_PC :)16:26
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vakkov_just bought an n900 and put my screen on it and also resoldered the usb so that it doesn't break :D az te old one17:07
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Morpog_PCobs is painful slow atm...17:14
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zbenjaminMorpog_PC:17:25
zbenjaminyes17:25
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Morpog_PCzbenjamin, why didn't you implement rotation in mainwindow? just in volume, usb and notifications?17:52
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zbenjaminMorpog_PC: ?17:55
zbenjaminthe main window rotates to 2 different states17:56
Morpog_PCit seems that mainwindow is in landscape on VM, but the UI scales to it, so it looks like portrait, but isn't17:56
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zbenjaminsorry i only know about the device (N9)17:57
Morpog_PCany other places to look for orientation beside lipstick-colorful-home?17:57
zbenjaminorientation should be almost completely in qml17:57
Morpog_PComg, my try to implement it for pager ended up scary :)17:59
zbenjaminhehe18:00
Morpog_PCmultitask windows and lockscreen atre now in wrong orientation18:00
zbenjaminhttps://github.com/bzeller/lipstick-colorful-home/blob/qt5/src/qml/NotificationPreview.qml#L3818:00
zbenjaminthats how you can pick it up18:00
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zbenjaminanyway it should already work18:00
zbenjamintry to rotate in the other direction18:01
Morpog_PCyay, i looked at your commit18:01
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Morpog_PCthere is no way to rotate the VM18:01
zbenjamineww ok bad ;)18:01
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Morpog_PCthe initial rotation seems to be wrong, as VKB pops up from left side18:01
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zbenjaminthat can not be found in the code then18:02
zbenjamini think thats some setting, kernel commandline ... something into that direction18:02
Morpog_PCok, I tried it like that: https://github.com/Morpog/lipstick-colorful-home/commit/3f04facaabd50a6cbe6366247b3d8ceff782e59f18:02
Morpog_PCwhich resulted in: http://abload.de/img/nemomobile-wayland60p78.png18:03
Morpog_PCand http://abload.de/img/nemomobile-waylandrlxlq.png18:03
zbenjamin;)18:04
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Morpog_PCrest of it still looks ok, especiall the pager which i tried to change18:04
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zbenjaminthose angles are mostly trial and error ;) no idea why they work the way they do in the notifications18:04
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* Morpog_PC wonders what happens on device with that patch18:09
Morpog_PCmaybe the multitask windows rotate when orientation changes?18:10
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Morpog_PCDamn sledges is on his way to geht his jolla18:10
Morpog_PCAnd I need to wiat till tomorrow :D18:11
zbenjamin;)18:13
Morpog_PCwher is yours?18:14
zbenjaminon my desk ;)18:14
Morpog_PCoooooahhhh :D18:14
zbenjaminbut i'm a bit dissapointed since i discovered there is a missing functionality i need18:15
Morpog_PCwhich one?18:15
zbenjaminsync google calendars18:15
Morpog_PCthat should already work18:15
Morpog_PCvia google account18:15
Morpog_PCbut only one way18:16
Morpog_PCafaik18:16
zbenjaminnope only contacts18:16
Morpog_PCsure?18:16
zbenjaminyeah from what i can see18:16
Morpog_PClets ask in #jollamobile18:16
zbenjaminalready did, they said its not working yet18:16
Morpog_PCoh thats a downer18:17
Morpog_PCi need that too18:17
zbenjaminyeah :(18:17
zbenjaminneed that more than any android app18:17
Morpog_PCwell, we could use google calendar maybe?18:18
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Morpog_PCandroid app18:18
zbenjaminno idea , thought about it too18:21
* sledges got his jolla!!!!!!18:22
zbenjaminsledges: YAY ;)18:22
sledges\o/18:22
sledges:)18:22
zbenjaminsledges: no google cal sync btw ;)18:22
Morpog_PCsledges, \o/18:22
sledgesnow safe driving home before unboxing18:22
sledgeszbenjamin: CalDa18:23
sledgesv?18:23
Morpog_PCsledges, no caldav18:23
Morpog_PCno carddav18:23
zbenjamingoogle contacts seem to work18:23
Morpog_PCSfiet_Konstantin, I didn't understand your answer in #jollamobile, can you answer here where it's less crowded?18:23
sledgeslets put nemo and implement :D18:24
Morpog_PCmaybe faenil can answer it us too? :D18:24
Morpog_PCdamn faenil is off18:24
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges, Morpog_PC when I say / do something about Jolla I'm thinking about nemo too :)18:25
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Morpog_PCI cound on sledges to implement caldav and carddav :D18:25
Sfiet_Konstantinso, basically, the Jolla events feed is soo much better than on N918:25
Sfiet_Konstantinwith access and interactions with feeds entries, and categorizations18:25
Sfiet_Konstantinwe should do the same18:25
zbenjaminSfiet_Konstantin: how long will it take for the google account to sync calendars too?18:25
Morpog_PCSfiet_Konstantin, erm, the question was about google calendar sync :D18:25
Sfiet_Konstantinthink one fb category, one / several twitter, one / several rss entries etc.18:25
Sfiet_Konstantinah :D18:25
Morpog_PClol18:26
Sfiet_KonstantinMorpog_PC: people are working on it18:26
Sfiet_Konstantinjust like a lot of other features18:26
sledgesSfiet_Konstantin: backlog last week about wazs very nice homescreen mockup re categ feeds18:26
Morpog_PCok, so I read that wrong somewhere that it works via google account18:26
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: ah ?18:26
Sfiet_KonstantinMorpog_PC: not yet, now we have fb calendar, contacts and google contacts only18:26
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Sfiet_Konstantinyou know, online services integrations are so nice to have, but so painful to integrate :/18:27
Morpog_PCSfiet_Konstantin, so you volunteer to do Nemo Feed screen? :D18:27
sledgesSfiet_Konstantin: wazd's18:27
Sfiet_KonstantinI like online services integration, but :/18:27
Sfiet_KonstantinMorpog_PC: I would love, will but I guess that there are work elsewhere too :)18:27
Sfiet_Konstantinright now, I'm hacking nemo social mw18:27
Morpog_PCYeah, integrated services are lovely18:27
Sfiet_Konstantinand qqc of cause :)18:27
Sfiet_KonstantinMorpog_PC: companies behind them are often less lovely18:27
Morpog_PCyeah api changes every two weeks I guess :)18:28
Sfiet_Konstantinor tokens are limited to 50k clients ?18:28
zbenjaminbtw guys, i signed @ canonicals mobile sdk team yesterday18:28
Sfiet_Konstantinzbenjamin: and ?18:28
Sfiet_Konstantinzbenjamin: so working at canonical ? :)18:28
Sfiet_Konstantinzbenjamin: less nemo :( ?18:28
zbenjaminSfiet_Konstantin: yeah sadly , i hoped for a jolla job but after one year of waiting i had to sign somewhere else18:29
zbenjaminbut thats cool  too18:29
Sfiet_Konstantinzbenjamin: good luck with them :)18:29
Morpog_PCcongrats on the job18:29
Sfiet_Konstantinindeed that's cool18:29
Stskeepszbenjamin: congratulations!18:29
Sfiet_Konstantinhope that you will come here from time to time :)18:29
zbenjaminthx ;)18:29
zbenjamini will stay here18:29
Sfiet_Konstantinzbenjamin: cool18:29
Morpog_PCyeah and tell them Nemo rox ;)18:29
Sfiet_KonstantinMorpog_PC: +118:29
zbenjamini'm only in the SDK team but i will keep it in mind, in case i get up the food chain ;)18:30
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zbenjaminmaybe i can bring in some creator knowledge to the nemo world , no idea how that works with confidentiality18:30
zbenjaminnemo sdk would rock ;)18:31
Morpog_PClol sledges posted pics on twitter from the post station where he waited for his jolla, lol18:31
Sfiet_Konstantinzbenjamin: confidentiality in an OSS company ? :D18:31
Sfiet_Konstantinwell, Jolla too :)18:31
sledges;)18:31
zbenjaminSfiet_Konstantin: you know how it works ;)18:31
Sfiet_Konstantinzbenjamin: and you know, np with this, go get a lot of XP and come back :D18:31
zbenjaminSfiet_Konstantin: where is that homescreen sourcecode again ? ;)18:31
Sfiet_Konstantinzbenjamin: well :D18:32
Sfiet_Konstantinzbenjamin: somewhere :D18:32
zbenjaminhehe is that location confidential? ;)18:32
sledgeszbenjamin: congrats ona decent (well non android) job!18:32
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zbenjaminsledges: thx ;)18:32
Stskeepssledges: everything is an android job these days, even canonical ;(18:32
Stskeepstechnically18:32
zbenjaminbut its android related, afaik ubuntu mobile uses a android core18:33
zbenjaminonly what i heard from the news18:33
Morpog_PCand libhybris18:33
zbenjaminits using libhybris? great :)18:33
zbenjamini heared rumors about it being a gnu chroot inside android18:33
Morpog_PCyeah and Qt5 and MIR18:33
Stskeepsnow it's android inside gnu18:33
sledgesyes, but you put glibc on top ftw18:34
Morpog_PCzbenjamin, that was it's first draft I guess18:34
zbenjaminMorpog_PC: possible ye18:34
Morpog_PChopefully they something more than placeholder apps soon ;)18:34
Morpog_PCshow*18:35
Morpog_PCI liked the concept of convergence from mobile phone till desktop18:35
Morpog_PCbut not sure if that ever works out well18:35
zbenjamini'm also really curious, i hoope i get some device to play with18:36
Morpog_PCwe should start bets how long it takes till sledges bricks his Jolla :)18:37
zbenjaminway home + 15 minutes ;)18:38
Morpog_PClocusf had Nemo UX in is for a few minutes18:38
Morpog_PC4G Jolla with wireless charging mod: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bbl3nurIAAAT2zN.jpg:large18:45
zbenjamini thought 4g is not working yet18:46
Morpog_PCwell, thats the Jolla from Jonni18:46
Morpog_PCjolla dev18:47
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MSameercoderus: ping w00t ;)18:47
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mordfor some reason the maliit kbd hint popup mostly shows lower case letters in fingerterm even though shift is on and the actual input is upper case; somewhat confusing when typing in hidden passwords19:14
qwazixo/19:15
Sfiet_Konstantinqwazix: \o19:15
morderr19:15
mordwrong chan19:15
mord:P19:15
qwazixmord, fingerterm doesn't use maliit AFAIK19:15
mordah, makes sense19:15
qwazixSfiet_Konstantin, hi!19:15
qwazixre: event screen, I'd like an event screen which scrolls backwards (or something)19:16
Sfiet_Konstantinqwazix: wait wha ?19:16
Sfiet_Konstantinwhat do ou mean ?19:16
qwazixmost annoying thing on N9 was having to read the tweets in reverse order19:16
qwazix(and losing the position in case I had to swipe away)19:17
Sfiet_Konstantinqwazix: yep, we need to think about that19:17
Sfiet_Konstantinand jolla people should too19:17
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Morpog_PCnice idea qwazix19:25
lpotterwell, with 10 tweets its hard to get lost19:25
Morpog_PClpotter, got twitter, facebook and rss feeds on my N9 Feed19:26
qwazixMorpog_PC, BB10 twitter almost got it right19:26
Morpog_PCthere u get lost :)19:26
Morpog_PCnever had the chance to try a BB10 device19:27
qwazixit opens with the last tweet you saw on the top of the list and you can scroll down19:27
qwazixbut if more than 10 new tweets are available, there is where it messes up19:27
qwazixwhen you click on it, it doesn't take you to the bottom of it, so now you are in the middle of unread tweets.19:28
qwazixtweetian works as expected19:28
Morpog_PCyeah tweetian is great19:28
Morpog_PCrocket does it like that too19:29
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zbenjaminhm are there any rotating apps on the jolla device?19:37
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Morpog_MobileGallery and fingerterm19:49
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MSameerand camera20:07
MSameervgrade: good job on mic images :)20:16
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MSameernow I can flash my n9 with sailfish :D20:16
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vgradeMSameer: team effort as always20:33
MSameervgrade: so if I flash it now, can I do dup or do I have to reflash every few days?20:34
MSameervgrade: and have you thought about using some binaries from harmattan itself?20:35
vgradeMSameer: jolla upgrade gets advertised but if you do it ssu brings down qcom adaptation20:37
vgradeMSameer: needs some work in kickstart post to update ssu conf20:37
vgradeMSameer: I've no exp of harmatten20:38
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vgradeMSameer: contributions welcomed at https://github.com/martinbrook/jolla-n950-kickstart20:39
vgradefaenil: \o20:39
faenilvgrade, o/ sup man :)20:40
vgradefaenil: sorry I missed your ping , at day job20:40
faenilnp ;)20:40
MSameervgrade: so i need to always reflash when you release a new firmware image I guess20:43
MSameervgrade: and no, harmattan binaries are not something I can contribute like that because most likely they are not redistributable20:43
Morpog_MobileMsameer why contribute, they are already on device20:44
MSameerit's the first time for me to flash sailfish on n9 so I don't know20:45
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MSameerI am just asking while I am flashing20:45
MSameermaybe I should stay silent for a while :/20:45
vgradeMSameer: we may get i to upgrade gracefully with jolla updates but needs work and contributions20:47
vgradeI did not mean contributing harmatten bins20:48
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qwazixmy jolla seems that will arri20:59
qwazixve tomorrow20:59
qwazix:-)20:59
MSameerERROR: SU_GET_UPDATE_STATUS_REQ terminated with error code 1: Unknown error21:00
MSameer:/21:00
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Sfiet_Konstantinqwazix: w321:09
Sfiet_Konstantin<321:09
qwazixSfiet_Konstantin, I can't wait, as it was starting to get lonely out here21:10
Sfiet_Konstantinoooh21:10
qwazixeverybody seems to have one21:10
Sfiet_Konstantinah21:11
Sfiet_KonstantinI see21:11
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Sfiet_Konstantingreece is too far away21:11
Sfiet_Konstantinlook, if you lived in FI21:11
Sfiet_Konstantin:D21:11
qwazixat this time of the year, not even a Jolla could make me want to live in .fi21:11
qwazixI'm freezing even here :P21:12
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faenilqwazix, few italian guys received it today fwiw :P21:25
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qwazix:nod:21:26
w00tqwazix: it's been an unreasonably warm winter in my (norwegian) experience thus far21:27
qwazixw00t, seriously? It has been an unreasonably  cold december in my experience here21:27
w00thttp://www.yr.no/stasjon/eklima/71320/graf/siste30.png?spr=nob21:28
MSameerImage too big to fit partition21:28
MSameeri gave up on that n921:28
qwazix(I guess it gets revenge from last year, were we still wore tshirts during christmas - or almost)21:28
* w00t is downloading firmware to flash harmattan for the first time in a long long time21:29
* qwazix still doesn't understand when x-chat opens links upon clicking on them and when not21:29
MSameerw00t: hope you will have a better luck :)21:29
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w00tMSameer: what went wrong for you?21:33
MSameerw00t: flashing ubiboot gives error21:33
MSameerImage too big to fit partition: image 219776+11952768 bytes21:33
MSameer[Pipe   0] Finishing in error state with status 121:33
faenilqwazix, +1! :D21:35
w00tMSameer: huh, never seen that before21:36
MSameeri always see that21:36
sledgesMSameer: not only ubiboot can boot nemo21:36
MSameerit's a 64GB white n921:37
MSameersledges: I need to boot sailfish21:37
sledgeshave you tried non persistent moslo?21:37
sledgesleast intrusive,best to sgart with21:38
* sledges is typing from jolla's finherterm ftw!21:38
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sledgeslol,here come typos21:38
sledgessounded like oxymoron :D21:39
MSameersledges: i have no idea how to do that :)21:39
MSameeri don't know what it's complaining about21:39
MSameerERROR: Image too big to fit partition: image 145460+11952768 bytes21:39
MSameerERROR:21:39
MSameerFailed to begin21:39
MSameerERROR: Flashing kernel failed21:39
MSameerERROR: Flashing failed (-1)21:39
MSameerwhat partition?21:39
sledgesMSameer: wiki Nemo/Installing21:39
MSameersledges: moslo is not the problem. the problem is ubiboot21:40
MSameermoslo worked fine21:40
sledgesok,21:40
sledgesing juiceme ?21:40
sledges*ping21:41
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MSameeri used 001  to flash. I wonder if I should retry with 005 as the instructions said21:41
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sledgescould go21:41
faenilMSameer, you should really go with what's recommended on that guide :)21:42
faenili.e. the only supported method out of 421:42
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MSameerfaenil: i don't get you22:15
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faenilMSameer, there are 3-4 installation paths on ubiboot's readme22:23
faenilbut only one is the supported one, as the readme itself says22:23
MSameerbut i am using the method here http://wiki.maemo.org/Sailfish#Ubiboot22:24
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faenilMSameer, then you should read the official readme22:31
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MSameerfaenil: then i will be deviating from the ailfish on n9 guide :p22:36
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faenilMSameer, get vgrade's ks, create image with mic, and you're done22:46
faenilno need for huge guides ;)22:46
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MSameeri hate the harmattan tutorial23:08
MSameeri really memorized it23:08
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MSameermmm23:28
MSameeri wonder how to have multiple oss on my n923:28
MSameermoslo gives 1 partition23:28
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MFaro-TusinoMSameer: Ubiboot23:35
MFaro-TusinoAlso, there are images created with vgrade's ks already, no need to make your own23:36
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MSameerMFaro-Tusino: i will use those yes23:39
MSameerububoot indeed but we have  1 partition exported via moslo23:40
MSameerso i pick either nemo or sailfish23:40
MFaro-TusinoNot with the latest ubiboot23:41
MFaro-Tusinoiirc, you can do both23:41
MSameercouldn't find a way23:41
MSameerif you have some tips then I'd really appreciate knowing23:42
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MSameerno use23:43
MSameerImage too big to fit partition: image 219776+11952768 bytes23:43
MSameeri gave up23:43
MFaro-TusinoOkay23:44
MFaro-Tusinohttp://wiki.maemo.org/Sailfish < Tells you how anyway23:44
MSameerseems ubiboot kernel is "too big" for my n923:44
MSameerfor whatever reason23:44
MSameerMFaro-Tusino: that guide doesn't talk about having nemo and sailfish at the same time23:45
MFaro-TusinoIt says you can run others by configuring it23:45
MFaro-TusinoJust replace te Firefox OS (or one you don't use) with the Nemo moslo and nemo files23:45
MFaro-TusinoThats it23:45
MSameergood point23:46
MSameeri will try that23:46
MSameerbut i need to get ubiboot to flash first23:46
MFaro-Tusinocorrect23:48
faenilMFaro-Tusino, have you reflashed harmattan by any chance?23:54
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faenilouch23:54
faenilMSameer, ^23:54
MFaro-TusinoI have Harmattan dual-booted?23:54
faenil(that would reset the partitions iirc, after that no excuse :D)23:54
MSameerfaenil: i reflashed 4-5 times tonight23:55
MFaro-TusinoAhh I see :p23:55
faenilMSameer, :/23:55
faenilMSameer, are you following the official tutorial :P23:55
MFaro-TusinoMSameer: Make sure you do the --no-preserve\23:55
MFaro-Tusinoand also flash the mmc23:55
MSameeri flash mmc23:56
MSameeri will try again with --no-preserve23:57
MSameererasing mmc23:57
MFaro-Tusino:)23:58
MSameerit takes a few minutes really23:58

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