Thursday, 2014-01-09

artemmaVenemo: thanks for the advices! everything worked in the end even if without the strictest possible type checking00:04
artemmaVenemo: Maybe C++14 will save everybody: In C++14 you write "auto auto(auto auto) { auto; }". The compiler infers rest from context :)00:05
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Venemoartemma: yeah ;)00:19
Venemoartemma: I'm glad I could help00:19
artemmame too :)00:19
Venemoanyway, what exactly are you working on?00:21
Venemoanyway, good night00:28
Venemolet's talk about it tomorrow!00:28
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niqtmorning07:41
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sledgesmorning09:17
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rcghey sledges09:35
rcg:)09:35
sledgesahoy rcg :)09:35
sledgescoming to fosdem like last year? ;)09:35
Sfiet_Konstantinmorning guys !09:35
rcgunfortunately not09:36
sledges:/09:36
rcgi think09:36
sledges:\09:36
sledges:]09:36
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sledgesdon't think, come!09:36
rcgyeah... got so many things to do here and really need to make some progress with my bloody phd xD09:36
sledges;D09:36
sledgesSfiet_Konstantin: ahorning!09:36
rcghey Sfiet_Konstantin :)09:37
tbrmooo09:37
rcgsledges, but i'd really like to go.. but otoh, time is really flying right now09:37
Sfiet_Konstantinhow are you guys !09:37
rcgtbr, hey :)09:37
tbrhulloh rcg09:37
rcgSfiet_Konstantin, fine fine, self?09:37
Sfiet_Konstantinfun with QtDBus09:38
Sfiet_Konstantinneed to make harbour-hotspot go to harbour09:38
rcgaye :)09:38
rcgam still waiting for qca-qt5 and libqmfclient being added/allowed to link against ;)09:40
tbra second hotspot app?09:40
* tbr still thinks all those apps that can't go to harbour at the moment should go to the 'chum' repo at least!09:41
rcgtbr, good point, :) i tend to forget the chum repo09:42
rcgtbr, how many apps do you have in there already?09:42
tbr1 :-(09:44
tbrmosh09:44
tbrneeds moaaarrr!09:44
rcgoh, indeed09:44
tbralso we need to work out the rightâ„¢ process09:45
tbrI guess it should just work with SRs and stuff09:45
rcgwhile i cannot promise any time frame, i'll look into packaging my apps for that as well09:45
tbryay!09:45
tbr(it should be essentially next to zero overhead in relation to harbour packaging)09:46
rcgtbr, so, essentially chum is using the sailfish target that's available on mer obs?09:46
tbryes09:46
rcgindeed, the .spec and .yaml are already there09:46
Sfiet_Konstantintbr: the same: harbour-hotspot09:46
Sfiet_Konstantinjust using dbus API instead of connman-qt09:46
Sfiet_Konstantinso --> allowed to store :)09:46
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rcgtbr, iirc it just needs to tar the sources and upload those along with the harbour .yaml and .spec09:47
tbryes, or point to a git repo with all of that09:47
tbrcompare with the mosh package09:47
tbrthat only points to the nemo github09:47
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Sfiet_Konstantinhum ... it segfaults ...09:49
rcgtbr, aye09:50
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tbrSfiet_Konstantin: there is a "tethering" app already in store, that's what I meant09:56
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Sfiet_Konstantintbr: ah ?09:57
Sfiet_Konstantinhow it is called ?09:58
Sfiet_Konstantinfun, I missed it, and was playing with https://github.com/sremes/harbour-hotspot09:59
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Sfiet_Konstantintbr: thanks :)10:00
tbr:)10:02
Sfiet_Konstantinso ... let's focus on Friends again :D10:04
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faenilmorning o/10:27
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sledgesmornin o711:47
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Morpog_PCyay Qt 5.2 :)18:27
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* Morpog_PC wonders is Jolla is gonna use that new renderer18:28
Morpog_PC*if18:28
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StskeepsMorpog_PC: of course, we even backported it to 5.1, but, it got more difficult as more stuff got put on18:45
Stskeepsso it'll come in 5.218:45
Morpog_PCwow, does it make a huge difference like on that blogpost from digia?18:46
Stskeepsit does18:46
Yanielyep18:46
Stskeepsand there's even more to come in optimizations to the stack18:46
Morpog_PCbecause your 60fps everywhere wish isn't fulfilled yet ;)18:47
Morpog_PCoh that sounds lovely18:47
Stskeepsit'll be max 58fps but yeah, there's a few issues18:47
Morpog_PC:D18:47
Yanielalso yay, almost finished my ALU \o/ (in logisim)18:47
Morpog_PCI guess I can live with 2 fps less :D18:47
Stskeepsthe depressing part was when unoptimized wayland was faster than optimized x11..18:47
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Yanielhaha18:47
Morpog_PCwell, like it's still on Nemomobile18:48
Yanielbut wasn't that one of its goals?18:48
Yanielless overhead etc18:48
Morpog_PCbeing slower than x111?18:48
Morpog_PC:D18:48
Morpog_PCYaniel, well, x11 is optimized for decades18:48
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Yanielyes18:59
Yanielbut it carries along a lot of stuff that has not really been necessary for decades18:59
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rcgevening20:02
rcgtbr, ping20:02
rcgtbr, how would i add a package to chum?20:02
rcgi think i got meepasswords so far that it builds. however, i didn't test the result yet.20:03
rcgshould i just file a sr?20:04
rcghmmz, scratch that20:04
tbrrcg: try a sr for chum:testing (preferably test if it works too)20:05
rcgit fails in the very end because i ship some libs20:05
rcg:/20:05
* tbr admits to not understanding SRs fully20:05
rcgtbr, don't worry. it's not working anyhow.20:05
rcgbesides, SRs are actually not too complicated ;)20:06
rcghttps://build.merproject.org/package/live_build_log?arch=armv8el&package=harbour-meepasswords&project=home%3Awonko%3Achum&repository=1.0.2.5_armv7hl20:06
rcgthat's a little frustrating, i have to admit20:06
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tbroh, yeah rpmlint can drive you up a wall20:07
rcgall those library-without-ldconfig-foo and arch-dependent-file-in-usr-share errors right now are due to the stuff i tried to do to get it into harbour20:07
* tbr remembers that from cross-packaging Icecast on suse OBS for n-distros20:07
rcgessentially, if the libs i need were available in current sailfish and allowed in harbour all this would be no problem at all20:08
tbrwhich means that OBS is picky in the other direction, sort of unfortunate. Wonder if there is an easy workaround20:08
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rcgright now, i come up with hacks to get things working despite some libs missing.. which makes it complicated to get things into harbour.. which in turn makes it more complicated to build on obs20:08
rcgtbr, yeah, i'm just getting kinda frustrated because i "just" want to get some nice apps done and keep running against walls pretty often20:09
tbrthat's what I meant. I was hoping it would work equally well for both20:09
rcgwell, i need to do some other work for my studies anyhow so i guess i'll pause this first try and try again later20:10
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rcgmaybe qca-qt5 will have made it into sailfish officially by then20:11
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rcgthat would make my try of getting meepasswords in much easier20:11
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tbr*nod*20:11
rcgand honestly, i don't want to add some hackish ldconfig stuff because i am afraid that such hacks might indeed end in tears for regular users20:12
rcgwell.. looking at the clock.. it's 1h+ since i started.. what should have been actually a 15min max. task20:14
rcgmaybe i can give openrepos a try.. some time later20:14
tbrtime to call it a day and switch context, I'd say20:14
rcgyep, will do20:14
rcgit just frustrates me to leave unfinished work laying around20:15
rcgbbl20:16
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rcgbtw. i don't wanna sound like moaning or complain much.. i just wish things were a little easier as that would speed up my workflow quite a lot and would enable me to make apps easier available20:27
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mentos1386hey, im new to nemomobile, it looks awesome :D i cant wait to put it on my n9 and try it out :) So.. how is developming going on? And how is "Glacier UI" development going? When will i be able to put it on my n9?22:15
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faenilmentos1386, hello :) do you want to contribute?22:25
faeniloops22:25
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