Thursday, 2014-01-16

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Sfiet_Konstantinhi :)09:03
Sfiet_Konstantinhow are you guys ?09:04
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wazdheya people :)09:16
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Sfiet_KonstantinPR ?09:32
Sfiet_Konstantinsounds complicated but I can explain09:32
Sfiet_Konstantin(sounds complicated especially when all autogenerated C++ files are touched)09:33
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Sfiet_Konstantinmoar PR
Sfiet_Konstantin^ easy09:41
Sfiet_Konstantinping sledges, locusf, Morpog_Jolla09:41
Sfiet_Konstantinhi sledges :)09:41
* sledges hugs Sfiet_Konstantin09:41
Sfiet_Konstantinthis one too, but get #20 first plzzz09:41
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: :)09:41
Sfiet_Konstantinnext target: toolbar09:41
Sfiet_Konstantinso that we have a close to complete QQC, and then, let's write homescreen and apps !09:42
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Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: reviewing ?09:45
Sfiet_Konstantinnot a lot of people here so no much people to ask for reviews :(09:45
sledgesyes, reviewing; I would also wait for faenil to wake up :) for a quick glimpse09:47
sledgesi know he's busy with uni, but nevertheless09:47
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: can you ping him in the outside world ?09:49
Sfiet_Konstantinyou know, the world outside IRC ?09:49
Sfiet_KonstantinI cannot :(09:49
sledgesi just did :)09:50
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Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: :D09:50
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sledgesSfiet_Konstantin: so the bug was here: ?09:54
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: yep, but more precisely here:
Sfiet_Konstantinhere are the bugs in python script09:55
Sfiet_Konstantinbasically 2 bugs09:55
Sfiet_Konstantin1. I was referring to the wrong object to get the property, here
Sfiet_Konstantinand 2. I wasnt restoring default property when you change from a theme that set a value of a property to a theme that don't set value, and expect the component to revert to default value09:56
Sfiet_Konstantinso I added some methods here09:56
Sfiet_Konstantinand set default using these methods here
Sfiet_Konstantinat the end, all classes got touched because of these new methods ...09:57
* sledges nods09:57
Sfiet_Konstantinthx for the merge :)09:58
sledgesthe remaining one is for faenil ;)09:58
Sfiet_Konstantinthx for the merge(s)09:58
sledgesand/or locusf09:59
Sfiet_Konstantincome on, it is a small one09:59
Sfiet_Konstantinwell, it is not that small, and actually, I liked writing it09:59
Sfiet_Konstantinbecause I tried many easing curves (like inoutback)09:59
Sfiet_Konstantinand it was fun to see pages shake :D09:59
sledgeswhen gets merged, will the [Bugfix] commit conflict? (since its in already)10:00
sledgesmaybe you could rebase10:00
sledgesor github is so smart ;)10:00
Sfiet_Konstantinyep, I'm doing this10:00
Sfiet_Konstantinthis looked weired10:00
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sledgeswonderful, many thanks all this Sfiet_Konstantin10:00
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Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: :)10:02
sledgesSfiet_Konstantin: can an example be added about new PageStack component? to
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: well, you don't need10:04
* sledges learns10:04
Sfiet_Konstantinthe new page stack is the whole example :D10:04
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Sfiet_Konstantinwith the "new" (because it is a very small fix) pagestack, the whole app, with the left / right slide is using the easing curve to behave10:05
Sfiet_Konstantinand the setup speed too10:05
sledgesso it's been overriden10:05
Sfiet_Konstantinyou can try to switch to ugly theme, the page animation will be slower :)10:05
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: yep, that's the goal of QQC :)10:05
sledgesand why in ugly it's slower?10:07
sledges(still ;P :D)10:07
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: no, the ugly theme is a legacy from faenil10:07
Sfiet_Konstantinit is basically the theme used to switch theme :D10:07
Sfiet_Konstantinthat's all10:07
sledgesreally ugly :))10:08
Sfiet_Konstantinhehe 1.5s to animate :D10:09
Sfiet_Konstantin"it is not a lag, it is a feature"10:09
sledges"doo yoo speaak whaales"10:10
sledges^ coincidentally, from Finding Nemo ;)10:10
EztranOops. Isn't that what WP said? :)10:10
sledgesMarc Dillon: "We'll have to slow Sailfish down to work on modern hardware"10:10
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: remember this10:11
sledgesso, Sfiet_Konstantin, now the merges/PRs aren'Åt blocking you anymore ;) free to wait for other QMLers to review your last one, no?10:12
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: yeah10:12
Sfiet_Konstantinif you don't want to review it don't :)10:12
Sfiet_KonstantinWill try to work on the pulldown page header10:13
Sfiet_Konstantinreally don't know how to manage this ...10:13
sledgesi reviewed it, remaining dumbfounded :D10:14
Sfiet_Konstantinqwazix: ping ?10:14
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* Sfiet_Konstantin go grab food11:08
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locusfwhats going on guys :) ?12:16
sledgesqqc :)12:18
Sfiet_Konstantinlocusf, sledges where are we supposed to install image files ?12:26
Sfiet_Konstantinimage resources ?12:27
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locusfokay cool :)13:35
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sledgesthanks Aard ; very useful to know14:57
sledgeswhat can new systemd bring to nemo ui ?14:57
sledgesin brief14:58
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Aardsledges: can't really answer that at this point, will try to answer closer to the move when it's clear which features we'll be using. big parts would be related to middleware, though, meaning we'd have to move some of the stuff shared between nemo/sailfish into a separate branch for sailfish17:04
Aardthe session scripts in nemo currently are pretty close to what sailfish is using, that'd change17:06
sledgesthough new the new sf branch will be needed if n9 3.x kernel is not rock solid17:08
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sledgeskrnlyng and filip are porting the kernel, latest work is ongoing on filip's branch and it will land to main repo at some point; i guess those guys can update the bugzilla list greatly17:13
sledgeslooking nice & active:
krnlynghiho :)17:14
sledgesheylo :)17:14
krnlyngfilip is the brain, i am just finding bugs but no solutions :( :P17:15
sledgesit is already in the nemo mainline git, nice doing guys :)17:15
sledgeskrnlyng: that's the way onto solution ;)17:16
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sledgeswhat's the state, krnlyng ?17:16
faenilo/ hello peopleee17:16
krnlyngsledges: i am still trying to figure out why wifi is failing for me17:17
sledgeskrnlyng: ic17:17
krnlyngit seems there is a bug with handling of unstable connections17:17
sledgesi vaguely remember something to do with beacons, and timeouting, if beacon is not received (on another hw fwiw)17:18
sledgesouch :)17:18
krnlyngseems to be related :O17:18
sledgeskrnlyng: how about enabling debugs in wifi on both kernels, and comparing them?17:19
sledgesor learning (the hard way) how wifi works ofc ;}17:19
krnlyngyeah i thought about that17:20
krnlyngbut had no time yet :P17:20
krnlyngHurrian said i should try updating the wifi firmware17:23
sledgesthe one used now is original one?17:24
krnlyngi don't know which version is used :D need to look into that17:25
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sledgesas in, we have a well working old kernel+fw combo17:26
sledgesso what changed17:26
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qwazixSfiet_Konstantin, pong18:22
Sfiet_Konstantinqwazix: wanted some information about window background in glacier18:26
Sfiet_KonstantinI have seen dialog specs, where you have a blurred background18:26
qwazixblack :P18:26
Sfiet_Konstantinshould it be on all backgrounds ?18:26
qwazixjust kidding. Sec18:26
qwazixI was right, it's black. Only the homescreen has the blurred background.18:27
Sfiet_Konstantinnot easy to do18:28
Sfiet_Konstantinor maybe ok18:28
Sfiet_Konstantinwill think about it18:28
qwazix(on the first mockup it's dark grey but we decided with Hurrian to make it black for the sake of amoled)18:28
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Sfiet_Konstantinfighting against header right now18:28
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qwazixnot easy?18:28
Sfiet_Konstantinqwazix: soon we might have a first draft / alpha of components, so we can work on porting apps :)18:28
qwazix\o/ :)18:29
Sfiet_Konstantinheader is not the thing I like the most: the draggable thing is not easy18:29
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Sfiet_KonstantinI mean, we should have enough components18:29
qwazixnot easy to implement or not easy to use?18:29
Sfiet_Konstantinto use we will see18:30
Sfiet_Konstantinand u thing is not ready18:31
Sfiet_Konstantinbut this can wait18:31
Sfiet_Konstantinqwazix: is there any design for core apps yet ?18:33
Sfiet_Konstantinor homescreen ?18:33
qwazixno, not yet. I have the homescreen idea pretty much finalized but no mockups yet.18:34
Sfiet_Konstantinqwazix: cool :)18:35
sledgesSfiet_Konstantin: from Hurrian's mockups I can see messaging, media player, and clock apps18:42
sledgesMorpog_PC's icefox browser concept also holds18:43
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sledgesqwazix: are they ^ good to be poked about?18:43
sledges(safest to go with clock app i think, messaging might be navigationary rethought into centralised msg hub etc ;))18:44
qwazixsledges, I think they are good enough but a full app mockup is much more than laying out components18:44
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sledgesthat's right, even clock has timers/stopwatches/etc18:45
qwazixyou need explanatory bubbles for every non-obvious interaction, dialogs, popups, notifications etc18:45
* sledges nods18:46
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qwazixalso in the process of doing the above you almost always find that your wonderful first components layout doesn't work because (not enough space for icon|need more info here|frequent interaction too hidden etc)18:47
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sledgesfun times :)18:48
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faenilhey hey what's going on here :p19:46
faenilSfiet_Konstantin, you knew I was working on headers...I have most of the drawer done already, somewhere19:47
faenilsince months xD if I knew it would have ended up like this...I should have committed the half-done work19:48
Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil: :D19:49
faenilSfiet_Konstantin, I suggest you focus on something else, if you're not too advanced with the header19:50
Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil: ok19:50
Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil: will pick something else19:51
Sfiet_Konstantinbut we are close to have a first draft honestly19:51
Sfiet_Konstantinah, maybe buttongroup19:51
Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil: push your work plz :)19:51
faenilSfiet_Konstantin, well, as you wish, if you think it's done already, go on19:51
Sfiet_Konstantinat east we can look at it :)19:51
faenilmine was working except that we were missing landscape UI design for it19:51
Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil: it is not done at all, I thought about doing it this morning so ...19:51
faenilso I had to stop it19:51
faeniland also we didn't know what you could actually put inside it19:52
faenila lot of questions19:52
Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil: ok19:52
faenilwhich I don't know if they're solved now :/19:52
faenilqwazix, ^19:52
Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil: then you can push an initial work isn't it ?19:52
faenilSfiet_Konstantin, sure, I just have to remember where I put it19:52
Sfiet_Konstantinfaenil: well ... a lot of stuff is not solved but well, we can have it for a first draft and iterate on it19:52
faenilSfiet_Konstantin, I did another exam today, so I'll take a couple of days to do things I like doing now :P19:52
faenili.e. nemo :p19:52
Sfiet_Konstantinnight people19:53
faenilSfiet_Konstantin, sorry I should have written on the wiki that I had a draft already, it's that I only discovered about that wiki page last week :D19:53
faenilSfiet_Konstantin,  so soon? :D night o/19:53
qwazixfaenil, I thought the latest mockup had some of those things covered (I admit I don't remember if I even pushed that, got to check)19:54
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faenilqwazix, I haven't checked design in a while, but please check :)19:55
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qwazixok, mompls19:56
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qwazixfaenil, I think the header spec is pretty-much complete, the only thing we decided to leave out were the speedbumps in landscape mode20:07
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faenilqwazix, ok20:09
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cxl000Aard, will that be the soon to be released systemd 209 or 208 plus patches from 209?21:00
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Aardcxl000: 20821:06
cxl000Aard, I recall some discussion in #wayland early Dec about automatic VT setup going into 209 that may good to have21:16
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Aardcxl000: the painful bit now is moving to 209 from our ancient version, the jump to 209 after that should be easier21:17
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