Tuesday, 2014-02-04

M4rtinKyeah, that resource framework needs some work00:00
artemmaM4rtinK: I understand their reasons00:00
artemmaand that they have limited hands00:00
M4rtinKIIRC, there is not even a QML interface yet00:00
M4rtinKat least in production00:00
artemmawell, building a public platform isn't easy00:00
M4rtinKyep00:00
artemmathey may or may not be fast enough00:00
artemmaah, I explictly stop acquiring permissions when app is minimized permissions sometimes00:01
artemmanever mind00:01
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M4rtinKwell, I have seen A LOT of people with Jollas on the conference00:01
M4rtinKso they seem to have a lot of good will in the FOSS community at least00:01
M4rtinKwhen you think about it00:01
artemmathere are a little more than 12K devices in hands at the moment00:02
M4rtinKthere are really no alternatives to the N900 - N9 & Jolla family00:02
M4rtinKif you want a device that offers both everyday usage & high hackability00:02
artemmaFOSS support is great, yet Jolla's survival IMO depends 95% on operators, just as any other phone manufacturer survival00:02
M4rtinKwell00:03
M4rtinKI hate operators00:03
artemmaor on a client for Sailfish who would have own sales channel00:03
M4rtinKat least those that don't accept theit role as a dumb pipe00:03
M4rtinK*their00:03
* artemma is not excited about operators either, but that's where the mobile phone world money are00:03
M4rtinKyeah00:03
M4rtinKbut then you can just do another Android skin00:04
M4rtinKno need to do something innovative if you let yourself to be dragged down by those telco monsters00:04
artemmaoh, there's lots of desire for a platform that will actually let operators differentiate00:04
artemmahence Sailfish, Tizen and Firefox, and Ubuntu mobile00:05
M4rtinKsee how the operators are negatively affecting the Firefox OS phones00:05
artemmaMSFT was right, operatos just couldn't do it with Windows00:05
M4rtinKfor the matter00:05
M4rtinKI don't think I saw a single FFOS fone on FOSDEM00:05
M4rtinKbut like every second guy had a Jolla00:05
M4rtinKwell, some had two or more :)00:06
M4rtinKwell, considering what crap the new mobile windows are :)00:06
M4rtinKyou can't polish a turd that easily00:06
* artemma thinks biggest and hugest WP problem is that MSFT owns skype. Everything else is a problem too, but Skype fact they cannot overcome00:07
M4rtinKanyway, good night :)00:09
artemmagood night00:09
M4rtinKreally late now :D00:10
M4rtinKbye :)00:10
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niqtmorning08:09
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stephgmorning!08:55
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sledgesgreetings!09:22
lbto/09:27
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xavinuxhi people10:38
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sledgeshi xavinux!11:39
xavinuxhi sledges how are you11:39
sledgesvery well, happy met many nemoers in fosdem :)11:40
sledgesand ou?11:40
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sledgesyou11:41
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