Tuesday, 2018-09-18

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T4<K31j0> I want to get poormaps or whatever it's called now and music and smash it into a head unit11:00
T4<K31j0> would probably need sailfish in tablet mode or nemo mobile for it11:00
T4<samzn> Nemo converges nicely to landscape now11:04
T4<K31j0> Any photo or anything?11:07
T4<samzn> (Photo, 1280x720) http://149.202.119.142:9090/ouXcummd50.png11:08
r0kk3rzlooks nice11:11
T4<gischpelino> wow, port nemo to geminipda! ;-)11:13
r0kk3rzinstall glacier-home and done11:14
T4<gischpelino> ok, will give it a try at weekend.11:15
T4<NotKit> @samzn [<reply to media>], is this mockup though?11:21
T4<eekkelund> @r0kk3rz [install glacier-home and done], Glacier != Nemo ;)11:21
T4<akaWolf> @eekkelund [Glacier != Nemo ;)], what is Nemo then?11:22
T4<NotKit> I suppose real one is missing the icon shadows and that nice wallpaper11:22
r0kk3rz@eekkelund: pfft, glacier ui pretty much is nemo, and a few apps11:24
T4<akaWolf> @r0kk3rz [@eekkelund: pfft, glacier ui pretty much is ne …], which apps?11:24
r0kk3rzthe nemo ones11:24
r0kk3rzobviously11:24
T4<akaWolf> wow11:24
T4<eekkelund> @r0kk3rz [@eekkelund: pfft, glacier ui pretty much is ne …], Is SFOS then Silica+jolla-homescreen and more apps? :D11:25
T4<akaWolf> https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Qt5PortingCoreApps11:25
T4<akaWolf> this one?11:25
r0kk3rzhttps://github.com/nemomobile-ux11:25
r0kk3rzstuff in there11:25
T4<akaWolf> @akaWolf [https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Qt5Porti …], what is here then?11:26
r0kk3rzancient stuff from the long long ago11:27
r0kk3rzfrom the time before time11:27
T4<akaWolf> ))11:27
r0kk3rzwhen only beasts roamed the earth11:27
T4<akaWolf> well.. I think we should update wiki page11:27
T4<akaWolf> becouse there are no info about current status11:27
T4<akaWolf> [Edit] because there are no info about current status11:27
r0kk3rzcurrent status is NeoChapay is one man army, fighting for nemo11:29
r0kk3rzhe's been updating a tmo thread about it regularly11:29
T4<akaWolf> what is tmo thread?11:30
r0kk3rztalk.maemo.org11:30
T4<samzn> @NotKit [is this mockup though?], nope, it's all there11:31
T4<akaWolf> that's not enough definitely. first time when I read about Nemo, I came to that page and after briefly reading close that with sure that project are death11:31
T4<akaWolf> is*11:32
T4<akaWolf> I can write some info, but I dont know anything, so you, guys, should do that11:33
T4<eekkelund> @akaWolf [I can write some info, but I dont know anythin …], All help is welcome! Writing wiki is highly appreciated!:)11:33
r0kk3rzindeed SomeoneTM should do that11:33
T4<gischpelino> soonTM11:34
T4<akaWolf> Contact your administrator or the maintainer (David Greaves ) for information about creating an account.11:35
T4<akaWolf> m?11:35
akaWolfokay, will write at #mer =)11:37
T4<meierrom> @r0kk3rz [install glacier-home and done], I don't think this will work. This is not vanilla glacier.14:07
r0kk3rz?14:17
T4<meierrom> @akaWolf [what is Nemo then?], https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo14:22
T4<meierrom> @r0kk3rz [@eekkelund: pfft, glacier ui pretty much is ne …], With respect, your statements are wrong and confusing!14:28
T4<akaWolf> can you explain a little more?14:29
T4<samzn> @eekkelund [Is SFOS then Silica+jolla-homescreen and more …], Plasma Mobile isn't Ubuntu touch with kde :))14:30
T4<meierrom> @akaWolf [can you explain a little more?], If you want to know more about nemo then please check out the link above.14:33
T4<akaWolf> I found that info a bit outdated14:35
T4<meierrom> @r0kk3rz [?], Vanilla glacier and glacier Harmattan are not the same ui.14:36
T4<eekkelund> @meierrom [Vanilla glacier and glacier Harmattan are not …], Glacier harmattan?14:36
r0kk3rzi never said they were14:37
r0kk3rzyou mean manhattan14:37
T4<eekkelund> @samzn [Plasma Mobile isn't Ubuntu touch with kde :))], 😃 nope it isn't14:37
T4<eekkelund> @r0kk3rz [you mean manhattan], Ah true14:37
T4<meierrom> @r0kk3rz [you mean manhattan], Sorry, yes... 😁14:38
T4<samzn> @meierrom [Vanilla glacier and glacier Harmattan are not …], For now14:38
T4<samzn> 9 days until we release our game... then things should be so much easier14:38
T4<akaWolf> @meierrom [Vanilla glacier and glacier Harmattan are not …], where is sources of both?14:41
T4<akaWolf> https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/glacier-home — ?14:42
T4<samzn> Yes14:42
T4<akaWolf> is that Manhattan or vanilla?14:43
T4<neochapay> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZWDbK6G9SY14:43
T4<samzn> Both, Manhattan is in a different branch but our local superhero neochapay has been working on it14:43
T4<samzn> @neochapay [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZWDbK6G9SY], Speak of the devil :)14:43
T4<samzn> [Edit] Both, Manhattan is in a different branch but our local superhero neochapay has been working on upstreaming it14:44
T4<eekkelund> @neochapay [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZWDbK6G9SY], WOAH! Thats cool!!! 0.o14:44
malnice14:44
T4<samzn> I have some qml components for windowing I've made for this game project if you want to use them :)14:45
T4<samzn> This really is so cool14:45
T4<samzn> How are you planning to trigger it?14:45
T4<neochapay> gesture14:46
T4<neochapay> https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/lipstick/merge_requests/9014:46
T4<samzn> I think doing the inverse of the multitask idea could work14:46
T4<samzn> Drag halfway to the bottom and wait, then it snaps out14:46
T4<akaWolf> @samzn [Both, Manhattan is in a different branch but o …], what is needed for?14:46
T4<akaWolf> what was the goal of manhattan branch and master/devel?14:47
T4<K31j0> Would I be able to run poormaps/its forks on it?14:47
T4<eekkelund> @akaWolf [what was the goal of manhattan branch and mast …], ATM manhattan is in devel and in the future devel should be merged to master.14:48
T4<eekkelund> @K31j0 [Would I be able to run poormaps/its forks on i …], With silica components, yes14:48
T4<samzn> (Photo, 1280x853) http://149.202.119.142:9090/AfoKZOZfPu.png14:49
T4<samzn> @K31j0 [Would I be able to run poormaps/its forks on i …], Planning to streamline pure maps with new nemo components14:49
T4<akaWolf> @samzn [<reply to media>], looks like you have graphics pad14:50
T4<samzn> Surface Pro 3 🙂14:50
T4<akaWolf> cool!14:50
T4<K31j0> how do silica apps look on nemo btw? would anybody to demo? :P14:50
T4<K31j0> [Edit] how do silica apps look on nemo btw? would anybody care to demo? :P14:51
T4<samzn> same thing but with a black background14:51
T4<meierrom> @eekkelund [With silica components, yes], Silica can work but it's not OSS!14:51
T4<samzn> with nemo frosted glass it should look almost the same, if not better14:51
T4<samzn> [Edit] with nemo frosted glass it should look almost the same once it's implemented, if not better14:51
T4<samzn> I'm gonna lunch14:51
T4<K31j0> glass on glass design is the best, change my mind14:53
T4<K31j0> solid backgrounds are boring :P14:54
T4<meierrom> @K31j0 [how do silica apps look on nemo btw? would any …], Awful I guess. But a little mapping should improve things. 😁14:54
rinigussamzn: I am looking into how to change page stack handling in pure maps. will see, if it works. but maybe we could later merge nemo and sfos versions in the same tree14:55
r0kk3rzsilica apps are just B&W14:57
T4<meierrom> @r0kk3rz [silica apps are just B&W], Sometimes they break according to @samzn. 😕15:03
T4<K31j0> Silica does magic?15:04
T4<akaWolf> hmm is there any way to implement glue level between silica and nemo frosted glass?15:04
r0kk3rzyou'd need more than glue15:05
T4<akaWolf> what else?15:05
T4<akaWolf> I mean it would be nice if there will be support for SFOS apps at Nemo...15:06
r0kk3rzwell silica has a few interesting ui concepts, and you would need an equivalent in glacier components15:06
T4<meierrom> @akaWolf [hmm is there any way to implement glue level b …], That's the plan, but it's messier. 😕15:06
r0kk3rzi tried to encourage sfos developers to use glacier components for that reason15:06
T4<akaWolf> yeah that's one way too15:07
T4<akaWolf> but in ideal there are should be silica support and also give more feautures15:08
T4<akaWolf> for developers15:08
r0kk3rzyeah thats more difficult, with silica being closed source15:08
r0kk3rzwe'd basically have to reimplement the special silica components, which im not sure jolla would be very happy with15:09
T4<samzn> you can run most sailfish apps just fine on nemo if you installed glacier15:09
T4<samzn> if we could reimplement silica components, I think everyone would be happy, but that's a big task, specially for emulating the intended behaviour that an app would want15:09
T4<akaWolf> yeah I mean in the best case that should be done15:10
r0kk3rztbh i would more aim for kirigami compatibility15:10
r0kk3rzsince thats QQC2 based, and open source15:10
T4<samzn> So is nemo quick components 🙂15:10
T4<samzn> I really don't think Kirigami or Plasma has good UX at all15:11
r0kk3rzthats fine, its about portability15:11
T4<OhYash> Kirigami won't look even with glacier/silica imo.15:13
T4<akaWolf> @samzn [if we could reimplement silica components, I t …], I think we need roadmap15:15
T4<samzn> We could plan it after the 27th15:15
T4<akaWolf> what will be 27th?15:16
T4<samzn> Release of a work that's been taking all my time :)15:17
T4<samzn> It'd be more comfortable for me15:17
T4<akaWolf> Okay15:18
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